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Guest Mitchell B.

Guest Mitchell B.

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I have a disc that Disk Defragmenter won't finish defragging.

 

On the first pass it did considerable work but quit with 22% fragmentation

left. Now when I hit defragment it runs for 30 seconds and spits out the

report below.

 

Nothing in the logs to indicate a error.

Disc is NOT dirty.

No 3rd party disk tools have been installed.

Partition has 54% free space.

 

Any ideas why defragmentor won't finish?

 

Cheers,

Mitch

 

 

Report:

 

Volume (C:)

Volume size = 99.99 GB

Cluster size = 4 KB

Used space = 45.38 GB

Free space = 54.61 GB

Percent free space = 54 %

 

Volume fragmentation

Total fragmentation = 22 %

File fragmentation = 45 %

Free space fragmentation = 0 %

 

File fragmentation

Total files = 62,368

Average file size = 1,024 KB

Total fragmented files = 4

Total excess fragments = 105

Average fragments per file = 1.00

 

Pagefile fragmentation

Pagefile size = 3.91 GB

Total fragments = 2

 

Folder fragmentation

Total folders = 11,430

Fragmented folders = 1

Excess folder fragments = 0

 

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation

Total MFT size = 91 MB

MFT record count = 73,921

Percent MFT in use = 79 %

Total MFT fragments = 2

 

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Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented

20 1 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt

28 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt

59 4 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt

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Guest Mathieu CHATEAU

Guest Mathieu CHATEAU

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Re: Defrag refuses to defrag disk.

 

Hello,

 

It can't defrag pagefile and files opened in exclusive acces,like the

eventlogs mentionned.

 

You may use pagedefrag to defrag them on next boot:

http://www.microsoft.com/france/technet/sysinternals/fileanddisk/pagedefrag.mspx

 

 

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

English blog: http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

French blog: http://www.lotp.fr

 

 

"Mitchell B." <Mitchell B.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:83244773-BFBE-4BC8-97AA-93E77B8994BD@microsoft.com...

>I have a disc that Disk Defragmenter won't finish defragging.

>

> On the first pass it did considerable work but quit with 22% fragmentation

> left. Now when I hit defragment it runs for 30 seconds and spits out the

> report below.

>

> Nothing in the logs to indicate a error.

> Disc is NOT dirty.

> No 3rd party disk tools have been installed.

> Partition has 54% free space.

>

> Any ideas why defragmentor won't finish?

>

> Cheers,

> Mitch

>

>

> Report:

>

> Volume (C:)

> Volume size = 99.99 GB

> Cluster size = 4 KB

> Used space = 45.38 GB

> Free space = 54.61 GB

> Percent free space = 54 %

>

> Volume fragmentation

> Total fragmentation = 22 %

> File fragmentation = 45 %

> Free space fragmentation = 0 %

>

> File fragmentation

> Total files = 62,368

> Average file size = 1,024 KB

> Total fragmented files = 4

> Total excess fragments = 105

> Average fragments per file = 1.00

>

> Pagefile fragmentation

> Pagefile size = 3.91 GB

> Total fragments = 2

>

> Folder fragmentation

> Total folders = 11,430

> Fragmented folders = 1

> Excess folder fragments = 0

>

> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation

> Total MFT size = 91 MB

> MFT record count = 73,921

> Percent MFT in use = 79 %

> Total MFT fragments = 2

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented

> 20 1 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt

> 28 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt

> 59 4 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt

>

Guest Mitchell B.

Guest Mitchell B.

Posted
Posted

Re: Defrag refuses to defrag disk.

 

 

That did do some house work but fragmentation is still at 22/45%.

 

Anything else I can try?

 

Here is the link in English in case anyone is interested.

 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/PageDefrag.mspx

 

Cheers,

Mitch

 

"Mathieu CHATEAU" wrote:

> Hello,

>

> It can't defrag pagefile and files opened in exclusive acces,like the

> eventlogs mentionned.

>

> You may use pagedefrag to defrag them on next boot:

> http://www.microsoft.com/france/technet/sysinternals/fileanddisk/pagedefrag.mspx

>

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

> English blog: http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

> French blog: http://www.lotp.fr

>

>

> "Mitchell B." <Mitchell B.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:83244773-BFBE-4BC8-97AA-93E77B8994BD@microsoft.com...

> >I have a disc that Disk Defragmenter won't finish defragging.

> >

> > On the first pass it did considerable work but quit with 22% fragmentation

> > left. Now when I hit defragment it runs for 30 seconds and spits out the

> > report below.

> >

> > Nothing in the logs to indicate a error.

> > Disc is NOT dirty.

> > No 3rd party disk tools have been installed.

> > Partition has 54% free space.

> >

> > Any ideas why defragmentor won't finish?

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Mitch

> >

> >

> > Report:

> >

> > Volume (C:)

> > Volume size = 99.99 GB

> > Cluster size = 4 KB

> > Used space = 45.38 GB

> > Free space = 54.61 GB

> > Percent free space = 54 %

> >

> > Volume fragmentation

> > Total fragmentation = 22 %

> > File fragmentation = 45 %

> > Free space fragmentation = 0 %

> >

> > File fragmentation

> > Total files = 62,368

> > Average file size = 1,024 KB

> > Total fragmented files = 4

> > Total excess fragments = 105

> > Average fragments per file = 1.00

> >

> > Pagefile fragmentation

> > Pagefile size = 3.91 GB

> > Total fragments = 2

> >

> > Folder fragmentation

> > Total folders = 11,430

> > Fragmented folders = 1

> > Excess folder fragments = 0

> >

> > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation

> > Total MFT size = 91 MB

> > MFT record count = 73,921

> > Percent MFT in use = 79 %

> > Total MFT fragments = 2

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented

> > 20 1 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt

> > 28 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt

> > 59 4 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt

> >

>

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

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Re: Defrag refuses to defrag disk.

 

 

"Mitchell B." <Mitchell B.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:83244773-BFBE-4BC8-97AA-93E77B8994BD@microsoft.com...

>I have a disc that Disk Defragmenter won't finish defragging.

>

> On the first pass it did considerable work but quit with 22% fragmentation

> left. Now when I hit defragment it runs for 30 seconds and spits out the

> report below.

>

> Nothing in the logs to indicate a error.

> Disc is NOT dirty.

> No 3rd party disk tools have been installed.

> Partition has 54% free space.

>

> Any ideas why defragmentor won't finish?

>

> Cheers,

> Mitch

>

>

> Report:

>

> Volume (C:)

> Volume size = 99.99 GB

> Cluster size = 4 KB

> Used space = 45.38 GB

> Free space = 54.61 GB

> Percent free space = 54 %

>

> Volume fragmentation

> Total fragmentation = 22 %

> File fragmentation = 45 %

> Free space fragmentation = 0 %

>

> File fragmentation

> Total files = 62,368

> Average file size = 1,024 KB

> Total fragmented files = 4

> Total excess fragments = 105

> Average fragments per file = 1.00

>

> Pagefile fragmentation

> Pagefile size = 3.91 GB

> Total fragments = 2

>

> Folder fragmentation

> Total folders = 11,430

> Fragmented folders = 1

> Excess folder fragments = 0

>

> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation

> Total MFT size = 91 MB

> MFT record count = 73,921

> Percent MFT in use = 79 %

> Total MFT fragments = 2

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented

> 20 1 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt

> 28 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt

> 59 4 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Posted
Posted

Re: Defrag refuses to defrag disk.

 

 

"Mitchell B." <Mitchell B.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:83244773-BFBE-4BC8-97AA-93E77B8994BD@microsoft.com...

>I have a disc that Disk Defragmenter won't finish defragging.

>

> On the first pass it did considerable work but quit with 22% fragmentation

> left. Now when I hit defragment it runs for 30 seconds and spits out the

> report below.

>

> Nothing in the logs to indicate a error.

> Disc is NOT dirty.

> No 3rd party disk tools have been installed.

> Partition has 54% free space.

>

> Any ideas why defragmentor won't finish?

>

> Cheers,

> Mitch

>

>

> Report:

>

> Volume (C:)

> Volume size = 99.99 GB

> Cluster size = 4 KB

> Used space = 45.38 GB

> Free space = 54.61 GB

> Percent free space = 54 %

>

> Volume fragmentation

> Total fragmentation = 22 %

> File fragmentation = 45 %

> Free space fragmentation = 0 %

>

> File fragmentation

> Total files = 62,368

> Average file size = 1,024 KB

> Total fragmented files = 4

> Total excess fragments = 105

> Average fragments per file = 1.00

>

> Pagefile fragmentation

> Pagefile size = 3.91 GB

> Total fragments = 2

>

> Folder fragmentation

> Total folders = 11,430

> Fragmented folders = 1

> Excess folder fragments = 0

>

> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation

> Total MFT size = 91 MB

> MFT record count = 73,921

> Percent MFT in use = 79 %

> Total MFT fragments = 2

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented

> 20 1 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt

> 28 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt

> 59 4 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt

>

 

I think you're chasing a phantom. While it may appeal to your aesthetic

sense to have all files on your machine completely contiguous, having

fragmented event viewer files will not measurably affect the performance

of your machine. It is very likely that you have already spent far more

time dealing with this issue than you will ever recoup because the

machine might run a smidgeon faster.

 

If you really insist on having contiguous event logger files then you

could clear the event log. You could also do this:

- boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD

- copy the three files to a different location

- delete the originals

- restore the three files

You will spend a lot of time in doing this, you will end up with

a very useful tool (the Bart PE CD) but your machine won't run

any faster.

Guest Mitchell B.

Guest Mitchell B.

Posted
Posted

Re: Defrag refuses to defrag disk.

 

 

Thanks for the repsonse Pegasus,

 

The PageDefrag app mentioned earlier sorted those 3 files out, but they

weren't what I was concerned about. Its the 45% file fragmentation of the

45GB of used space on the disk. If it was a few percentage points I'd agree

with you.

 

The fragmented files statistically have to include the (3) 10GB SQL Server

database files running on the system. Are there any inherent problems with

degragging these files? Their size maybe?

 

Defrags were run in safe mode so SQL Server shouldn't have been running so

they wouldn't have been locked.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions so far.

Mitch

 

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "Mitchell B." <Mitchell B.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:83244773-BFBE-4BC8-97AA-93E77B8994BD@microsoft.com...

> >I have a disc that Disk Defragmenter won't finish defragging.

> >

> > On the first pass it did considerable work but quit with 22% fragmentation

> > left. Now when I hit defragment it runs for 30 seconds and spits out the

> > report below.

> >

> > Nothing in the logs to indicate a error.

> > Disc is NOT dirty.

> > No 3rd party disk tools have been installed.

> > Partition has 54% free space.

> >

> > Any ideas why defragmentor won't finish?

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Mitch

> >

> >

> > Report:

> >

> > Volume (C:)

> > Volume size = 99.99 GB

> > Cluster size = 4 KB

> > Used space = 45.38 GB

> > Free space = 54.61 GB

> > Percent free space = 54 %

> >

> > Volume fragmentation

> > Total fragmentation = 22 %

> > File fragmentation = 45 %

> > Free space fragmentation = 0 %

> >

> > File fragmentation

> > Total files = 62,368

> > Average file size = 1,024 KB

> > Total fragmented files = 4

> > Total excess fragments = 105

> > Average fragments per file = 1.00

> >

> > Pagefile fragmentation

> > Pagefile size = 3.91 GB

> > Total fragments = 2

> >

> > Folder fragmentation

> > Total folders = 11,430

> > Fragmented folders = 1

> > Excess folder fragments = 0

> >

> > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation

> > Total MFT size = 91 MB

> > MFT record count = 73,921

> > Percent MFT in use = 79 %

> > Total MFT fragments = 2

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented

> > 20 1 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt

> > 28 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt

> > 59 4 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt

> >

>

> I think you're chasing a phantom. While it may appeal to your aesthetic

> sense to have all files on your machine completely contiguous, having

> fragmented event viewer files will not measurably affect the performance

> of your machine. It is very likely that you have already spent far more

> time dealing with this issue than you will ever recoup because the

> machine might run a smidgeon faster.

>

> If you really insist on having contiguous event logger files then you

> could clear the event log. You could also do this:

> - boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD

> - copy the three files to a different location

> - delete the originals

> - restore the three files

> You will spend a lot of time in doing this, you will end up with

> a very useful tool (the Bart PE CD) but your machine won't run

> any faster.

>

>

>

Guest Mitchell B.

Guest Mitchell B.

Posted
Posted

Re: Defrag refuses to defrag disk.

 

 

Thanks for the help.

 

The contig.exe tool on the link provided previously sorted me out.

 

cheers again,

Mitch

 

 

 

"Mitchell B." wrote:

>

> Thanks for the repsonse Pegasus,

>

> The PageDefrag app mentioned earlier sorted those 3 files out, but they

> weren't what I was concerned about. Its the 45% file fragmentation of the

> 45GB of used space on the disk. If it was a few percentage points I'd agree

> with you.

>

> The fragmented files statistically have to include the (3) 10GB SQL Server

> database files running on the system. Are there any inherent problems with

> degragging these files? Their size maybe?

>

> Defrags were run in safe mode so SQL Server shouldn't have been running so

> they wouldn't have been locked.

>

> Thanks for all the suggestions so far.

> Mitch

>

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> >

> > "Mitchell B." <Mitchell B.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:83244773-BFBE-4BC8-97AA-93E77B8994BD@microsoft.com...

> > >I have a disc that Disk Defragmenter won't finish defragging.

> > >

> > > On the first pass it did considerable work but quit with 22% fragmentation

> > > left. Now when I hit defragment it runs for 30 seconds and spits out the

> > > report below.

> > >

> > > Nothing in the logs to indicate a error.

> > > Disc is NOT dirty.

> > > No 3rd party disk tools have been installed.

> > > Partition has 54% free space.

> > >

> > > Any ideas why defragmentor won't finish?

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Mitch

> > >

> > >

> > > Report:

> > >

> > > Volume (C:)

> > > Volume size = 99.99 GB

> > > Cluster size = 4 KB

> > > Used space = 45.38 GB

> > > Free space = 54.61 GB

> > > Percent free space = 54 %

> > >

> > > Volume fragmentation

> > > Total fragmentation = 22 %

> > > File fragmentation = 45 %

> > > Free space fragmentation = 0 %

> > >

> > > File fragmentation

> > > Total files = 62,368

> > > Average file size = 1,024 KB

> > > Total fragmented files = 4

> > > Total excess fragments = 105

> > > Average fragments per file = 1.00

> > >

> > > Pagefile fragmentation

> > > Pagefile size = 3.91 GB

> > > Total fragments = 2

> > >

> > > Folder fragmentation

> > > Total folders = 11,430

> > > Fragmented folders = 1

> > > Excess folder fragments = 0

> > >

> > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation

> > > Total MFT size = 91 MB

> > > MFT record count = 73,921

> > > Percent MFT in use = 79 %

> > > Total MFT fragments = 2

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented

> > > 20 1 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt

> > > 28 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt

> > > 59 4 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt

> > >

> >

> > I think you're chasing a phantom. While it may appeal to your aesthetic

> > sense to have all files on your machine completely contiguous, having

> > fragmented event viewer files will not measurably affect the performance

> > of your machine. It is very likely that you have already spent far more

> > time dealing with this issue than you will ever recoup because the

> > machine might run a smidgeon faster.

> >

> > If you really insist on having contiguous event logger files then you

> > could clear the event log. You could also do this:

> > - boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD

> > - copy the three files to a different location

> > - delete the originals

> > - restore the three files

> > You will spend a lot of time in doing this, you will end up with

> > a very useful tool (the Bart PE CD) but your machine won't run

> > any faster.

> >

> >

> >

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