HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

[Guest foo]

Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

 

How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

with DOS/Win 98?

 

Response:

 

 

Dear Customer,

 

 

 

Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center.

 

 

 

With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that

we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win

98. I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused to

you.

 

 

 

I hope this information has been of assistance to you. Please

reply to this message or for online Chat assistance please visit

- http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/help.do if there

is anything further we can do. For your convenience, you may

also call the HP Home and Home Office Sales Center directly at

1-888-999-4747 Monday - Sunday: 7:00 AM - 2:00 AM EST

[Guest Dan]

RE: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

The HP Photosmart C4180 All-In-One with printer, scanner, and copier will

work with Windows 98 Second Edition but it is not officially supported.

 

"foo" wrote:

> Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

>

> How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

> with DOS/Win 98?

>

> Response:

>

>

> Dear Customer,

>

>

>

> Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center.

>

>

>

> With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that

> we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win

> 98. I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused to

> you.

>

>

>

> I hope this information has been of assistance to you. Please

> reply to this message or for online Chat assistance please visit

> - http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/help.do if there

> is anything further we can do. For your convenience, you may

> also call the HP Home and Home Office Sales Center directly at

> 1-888-999-4747 Monday - Sunday: 7:00 AM - 2:00 AM EST

>

[Guest John John]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98

 

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98

 

http://www.okidata.com/mkt/html/nf/B4350Home.html

 

John

 

foo wrote:

> Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

>

> How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

> with DOS/Win 98?

>

> Response:

>

>

> Dear Customer,

>

>

>

> Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center.

>

>

>

> With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that

> we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win

> 98. I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused to

> you.

>

>

>

> I hope this information has been of assistance to you. Please

> reply to this message or for online Chat assistance please visit

> - http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/help.do if there

> is anything further we can do. For your convenience, you may

> also call the HP Home and Home Office Sales Center directly at

> 1-888-999-4747 Monday - Sunday: 7:00 AM - 2:00 AM EST

[Guest Don Phillipson]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

"foo" <foo@bar.com> wrote in message

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> Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

> How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

> with DOS/Win 98?

 

You may get a better response by asking Brother Inc.

 

--

Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

[Guest Ron Martell]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

foo <foo@bar.com> wrote:

>Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

>

>How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

>with DOS/Win 98?

>

The Brother MFC7820N Printer/Scanner/Fax/Copier/PC Fax has parallel,

USB, and Network ports and has drivers for Windows 98 original and up.

I just bought one and have it directly connected to the home network.

 

Two shortcomings:

1. It does not have "smart ring answer" for incoming faxes, which I

used with my old Panasonic thermal fax.

2. It does not have drivers for Windows Server verrsions. I have a

machine running the just-release Windows Home Server and I can't use

the printer with that PC.

 

Other than that I am a happy camper and the photocopier, thermal fax,

flatbed scanner and old laser printer have all vacated my desk.

 

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

--

Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)

On-Line Help Computer Service

http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

 

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference

has never been in bed with a mosquito."

[Guest teebo]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>:

> Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

> How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

> with DOS/Win 98?

> Response:

> Dear Customer,

> Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center.

> With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that

> we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win 98

 

yes HP removed all their drivers for windows98 this summer

with some vague referens to that their license with some

third party (ms?) was terminated

 

So it would be nice if anyone that have drivers for their HP Printer

(and other HP things) could post them on a webpage somewhere

with perhaps a pointer here, so people can find them if they

need to reinstall their windows98.

 

 

DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver

to print with a parallel port printer. just print.

Some programs run in dos might need them though to print

graphics and fonts etc and HP still have drivers on their page

for DOS-programs (and for Win3.11)

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

"teebo" <no@mail.no> wrote in message news:op.t0tdzejqbr8ivg@300pl...

> Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>:

>> Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

>> How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

>> with DOS/Win 98?

>> Response:

>> Dear Customer,

>> Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center.

>> With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that

>> we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win 98

>

> yes HP removed all their drivers for windows98 this summer

> with some vague referens to that their license with some

> third party (ms?) was terminated

>

> So it would be nice if anyone that have drivers for their HP Printer

> (and other HP things) could post them on a webpage somewhere

> with perhaps a pointer here, so people can find them if they

> need to reinstall their windows98.

 

http://www.driverguide.com/

>

>

> DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver

> to print with a parallel port printer. just print.

> Some programs run in dos might need them though to print

> graphics and fonts etc and HP still have drivers on their page

> for DOS-programs (and for Win3.11)

 

 

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[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:11:37 GMT, teebo <no@mail.no> put finger to

keyboard and composed:

>So it would be nice if anyone that have drivers for their HP Printer

>(and other HP things) could post them on a webpage somewhere

>with perhaps a pointer here, so people can find them if they

>need to reinstall their windows98.

 

Try the Wayback Machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://support.hp.com

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest Name]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

teebo <no@mail.no> wrote in news:op.t0tdzejqbr8ivg@300pl:

> Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>:

> DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver

> to print with a parallel port printer. just print.

 

I understand HP has removed parallel ports from their printers

too.

 

Lots of Win 98 users still use DOS programs under 98 that don't

work easily with USB printers.

[Guest John John]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98

 

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98

 

Name wrote:

> teebo <no@mail.no> wrote in news:op.t0tdzejqbr8ivg@300pl:

>

>

>>Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>:

>>DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver

>>to print with a parallel port printer. just print.

>

>

> I understand HP has removed parallel ports from their printers

> too.

>

> Lots of Win 98 users still use DOS programs under 98 that don't

> work easily with USB printers.

 

The problem is that many of the newer printers are GDi only and DOS

applications cannot print to them. If the printer doesn't do PCL

emulation chances are DOS applications can't use it, verify with the

printer manufacturer. Many, if not almost all, multi-function printers

sold today are GDI only.

 

In days of old printers had "brains". The print processing was done by

the printer, the DOS applications only needed to send minimal

instructions to the printer and the printer did all the work of

preparing and assembling the printed documents. These printers were

more expensive than their newer counterparts. In a bid to save money

printer manufacturers have gradually striped all the "brains" out of

their printers in favour of software driven printers, now all the work

is done by software instead of the actual printer hardware, that has

reduced the cost of printers but these printers are "Windows" only

printers and DOS applications cannot use them, or at least cannot use

them without third party solutions. If you want the printer to be DOS

compatible you usually have to pay more for PCL emulation capability.

 

It's hard to know exactly how much money the manufacturers are actually

saving by having stripped all the "brains" out of the printers but it

probably amounts to a massive amount of about 42¢, although some think

it's probably more like 12 cents per unit...

 

There are software solutions for printing to these new printers,

basically a peice of software captures an LPT port and it then

translates the output from the DOS application and sends it to the printer.

 

John

[Guest legg]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:50:12 -0700, foo <foo@bar.com> wrote:

>Inquiry to Hewlett Packard:

>

>How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work

>with DOS/Win 98?

>

>Response:

>

Why buy a new one, when there are so many going second hand or

surplus? These generally had no option but to be compatible with W98,

though HP migrated their support emphasis to NT / W2K fairly early on.

 

My local 'Thrift Store' even offers a seven day return policy if there

are problems. I've not had to resort to that, because there's

generally nothing wrong with the devices I've sourced there that can't

be fixed fairly easily.

 

Second hand uniits are also good sources for spare parts, though you

might have to be patient, waiting for the right part to show up, once

you figure out which part donors contain it.

 

Using W98 isn't necessarily the easiest or smartest option.

 

RL

[Guest Dan]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win

 

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win

 

Using Windows 98 Second Edition may not be easy but it certainly is a smart

option because if you see secunia.com then you will notice Windows 98 Second

Edition is safer in terms of vulnerabilites than either Windows 2000

Professional, Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Home. Windows Vista is

so far more secure but still is annoying due to user account control,

automated features and it still struggles with backwards compatibility of

older programs. We will see how well Windows Vista Service Pack 1 fixes

these issues or if Microsoft does not address them but I think Microsoft will

eventually.

[Guest Ron Martell]

Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98

 

Ron Martell <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote:

 

>The Brother MFC7820N Printer/Scanner/Fax/Copier/PC Fax has parallel,

>USB, and Network ports and has drivers for Windows 98 original and up.

>I just bought one and have it directly connected to the home network.

>

>Two shortcomings:

>1. It does not have "smart ring answer" for incoming faxes, which I

>used with my old Panasonic thermal fax.

 

Correction. It does have "smart ring" answer capability and it works

very well. It it just not mentioned in the setup guide or

advertising but the user manual has fuill instructions.

 

 

 

>2. It does not have drivers for Windows Server verrsions. I have a

>machine running the just-release Windows Home Server and I can't use

>the printer with that PC.

 

Correction. Brother does have a Windows Server driver for this

machine, for printing functions only. I had to email them and they

sent me the download link. Works just fine and is fully adequate

for my needs for printing from the server.

 

 

I am now a totally happy camper and as far as I am concerned this is

pretty close to the ideal laser multifunction machine for small

office/ home office use.

 

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

--

Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)

On-Line Help Computer Service

http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

 

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference

has never been in bed with a mosquito."