Guest foo Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work with DOS/Win 98? Response: Dear Customer, Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center. With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win 98. I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused to you. I hope this information has been of assistance to you. Please reply to this message or for online Chat assistance please visit - http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/help.do if there is anything further we can do. For your convenience, you may also call the HP Home and Home Office Sales Center directly at 1-888-999-4747 Monday - Sunday: 7:00 AM - 2:00 AM EST
Guest Dan Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 RE: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 The HP Photosmart C4180 All-In-One with printer, scanner, and copier will work with Windows 98 Second Edition but it is not officially supported. "foo" wrote: > Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: > > How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work > with DOS/Win 98? > > Response: > > > Dear Customer, > > > > Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center. > > > > With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that > we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win > 98. I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused to > you. > > > > I hope this information has been of assistance to you. Please > reply to this message or for online Chat assistance please visit > - http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/help.do if there > is anything further we can do. For your convenience, you may > also call the HP Home and Home Office Sales Center directly at > 1-888-999-4747 Monday - Sunday: 7:00 AM - 2:00 AM EST >
Guest John John Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98 http://www.okidata.com/mkt/html/nf/B4350Home.html John foo wrote: > Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: > > How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work > with DOS/Win 98? > > Response: > > > Dear Customer, > > > > Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center. > > > > With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that > we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win > 98. I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused to > you. > > > > I hope this information has been of assistance to you. Please > reply to this message or for online Chat assistance please visit > - http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/help.do if there > is anything further we can do. For your convenience, you may > also call the HP Home and Home Office Sales Center directly at > 1-888-999-4747 Monday - Sunday: 7:00 AM - 2:00 AM EST
Guest Don Phillipson Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 "foo" <foo@bar.com> wrote in message news:%23aTMPQuFIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: > How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work > with DOS/Win 98? You may get a better response by asking Brother Inc. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Guest Ron Martell Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 foo <foo@bar.com> wrote: >Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: > >How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work >with DOS/Win 98? > The Brother MFC7820N Printer/Scanner/Fax/Copier/PC Fax has parallel, USB, and Network ports and has drivers for Windows 98 original and up. I just bought one and have it directly connected to the home network. Two shortcomings: 1. It does not have "smart ring answer" for incoming faxes, which I used with my old Panasonic thermal fax. 2. It does not have drivers for Windows Server verrsions. I have a machine running the just-release Windows Home Server and I can't use the printer with that PC. Other than that I am a happy camper and the photocopier, thermal fax, flatbed scanner and old laser printer have all vacated my desk. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito."
Guest teebo Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>: > Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: > How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work > with DOS/Win 98? > Response: > Dear Customer, > Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center. > With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that > we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win 98 yes HP removed all their drivers for windows98 this summer with some vague referens to that their license with some third party (ms?) was terminated So it would be nice if anyone that have drivers for their HP Printer (and other HP things) could post them on a webpage somewhere with perhaps a pointer here, so people can find them if they need to reinstall their windows98. DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver to print with a parallel port printer. just print. Some programs run in dos might need them though to print graphics and fonts etc and HP still have drivers on their page for DOS-programs (and for Win3.11)
Guest Brian A. Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 "teebo" <no@mail.no> wrote in message news:op.t0tdzejqbr8ivg@300pl... > Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>: >> Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: >> How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work >> with DOS/Win 98? >> Response: >> Dear Customer, >> Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center. >> With reference to your question, I would like to inform you that >> we do not offer any printers which is compatible with DOS/Win 98 > > yes HP removed all their drivers for windows98 this summer > with some vague referens to that their license with some > third party (ms?) was terminated > > So it would be nice if anyone that have drivers for their HP Printer > (and other HP things) could post them on a webpage somewhere > with perhaps a pointer here, so people can find them if they > need to reinstall their windows98. http://www.driverguide.com/ > > > DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver > to print with a parallel port printer. just print. > Some programs run in dos might need them though to print > graphics and fonts etc and HP still have drivers on their page > for DOS-programs (and for Win3.11) -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:11:37 GMT, teebo <no@mail.no> put finger to keyboard and composed: >So it would be nice if anyone that have drivers for their HP Printer >(and other HP things) could post them on a webpage somewhere >with perhaps a pointer here, so people can find them if they >need to reinstall their windows98. Try the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://support.hp.com - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Guest Name Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 teebo <no@mail.no> wrote in news:op.t0tdzejqbr8ivg@300pl: > Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>: > DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver > to print with a parallel port printer. just print. I understand HP has removed parallel ports from their printers too. Lots of Win 98 users still use DOS programs under 98 that don't work easily with USB printers.
Guest John John Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win98 Name wrote: > teebo <no@mail.no> wrote in news:op.t0tdzejqbr8ivg@300pl: > > >>Den 2007-10-25 10:50:12 skrev foo <foo@bar.com>: >>DOS is whole other problem. DOS itself don't need a driver >>to print with a parallel port printer. just print. > > > I understand HP has removed parallel ports from their printers > too. > > Lots of Win 98 users still use DOS programs under 98 that don't > work easily with USB printers. The problem is that many of the newer printers are GDi only and DOS applications cannot print to them. If the printer doesn't do PCL emulation chances are DOS applications can't use it, verify with the printer manufacturer. Many, if not almost all, multi-function printers sold today are GDI only. In days of old printers had "brains". The print processing was done by the printer, the DOS applications only needed to send minimal instructions to the printer and the printer did all the work of preparing and assembling the printed documents. These printers were more expensive than their newer counterparts. In a bid to save money printer manufacturers have gradually striped all the "brains" out of their printers in favour of software driven printers, now all the work is done by software instead of the actual printer hardware, that has reduced the cost of printers but these printers are "Windows" only printers and DOS applications cannot use them, or at least cannot use them without third party solutions. If you want the printer to be DOS compatible you usually have to pay more for PCL emulation capability. It's hard to know exactly how much money the manufacturers are actually saving by having stripped all the "brains" out of the printers but it probably amounts to a massive amount of about 42¢, although some think it's probably more like 12 cents per unit... There are software solutions for printing to these new printers, basically a peice of software captures an LPT port and it then translates the output from the DOS application and sends it to the printer. John
Guest legg Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:50:12 -0700, foo <foo@bar.com> wrote: >Inquiry to Hewlett Packard: > >How can I find laser printers that have a parallel port and work >with DOS/Win 98? > >Response: > Why buy a new one, when there are so many going second hand or surplus? These generally had no option but to be compatible with W98, though HP migrated their support emphasis to NT / W2K fairly early on. My local 'Thrift Store' even offers a seven day return policy if there are problems. I've not had to resort to that, because there's generally nothing wrong with the devices I've sourced there that can't be fixed fairly easily. Second hand uniits are also good sources for spare parts, though you might have to be patient, waiting for the right part to show up, once you figure out which part donors contain it. Using W98 isn't necessarily the easiest or smartest option. RL
Guest Dan Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win Using Windows 98 Second Edition may not be easy but it certainly is a smart option because if you see secunia.com then you will notice Windows 98 Second Edition is safer in terms of vulnerabilites than either Windows 2000 Professional, Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Home. Windows Vista is so far more secure but still is annoying due to user account control, automated features and it still struggles with backwards compatibility of older programs. We will see how well Windows Vista Service Pack 1 fixes these issues or if Microsoft does not address them but I think Microsoft will eventually.
Guest Ron Martell Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: HP Says they No Longer Sell Laser Printer Compatible with Win 98 Ron Martell <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote: >The Brother MFC7820N Printer/Scanner/Fax/Copier/PC Fax has parallel, >USB, and Network ports and has drivers for Windows 98 original and up. >I just bought one and have it directly connected to the home network. > >Two shortcomings: >1. It does not have "smart ring answer" for incoming faxes, which I >used with my old Panasonic thermal fax. Correction. It does have "smart ring" answer capability and it works very well. It it just not mentioned in the setup guide or advertising but the user manual has fuill instructions. >2. It does not have drivers for Windows Server verrsions. I have a >machine running the just-release Windows Home Server and I can't use >the printer with that PC. Correction. Brother does have a Windows Server driver for this machine, for printing functions only. I had to email them and they sent me the download link. Works just fine and is fully adequate for my needs for printing from the server. I am now a totally happy camper and as far as I am concerned this is pretty close to the ideal laser multifunction machine for small office/ home office use. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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