Guest Rod Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 copying 30Gb across to external Hdd I have USB 1 (not sure) but it's not USB2 Copying files across takes about 4 hours any other way faster? Thank you
Guest glee Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. Don't use USB. *Maximum* transfer speeds for USB 1.0 and 1.1 are 1.5Mbps & 12Mbps, respectively; while USB 2.0 has a max of 480Mbps (Megabits per second), about 40 times faster. A hard drive connected to USB 2.0 will transfer maybe 40MBps (Megabytes per second). So, your 4 hours is better than anticipated for USB 1.1 Why not install a second hard drive internally to an IDE connection and transfer the files, then remove the drive? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:%23RwYyScGIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > copying 30Gb across to external Hdd > I have USB 1 (not sure) but it's not USB2 > Copying files across takes about 4 hours > any other way faster? > Thank you > > > > >
Guest Rod Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message news:OxSuF9cGIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Don't use USB. *Maximum* transfer speeds for USB 1.0 and 1.1 are 1.5Mbps & 12Mbps, > respectively; while USB 2.0 has a max of 480Mbps (Megabits per second), about 40 > times faster. A hard drive connected to USB 2.0 will transfer maybe 40MBps > (Megabytes per second). So, your 4 hours is better than anticipated for USB 1.1 > > Why not install a second hard drive internally to an IDE connection and transfer the > files, then remove the drive? Thanks for that Glen, I have been caught between a rock and a hard place, I am running a piddly 6Gb HDD as C then a 40Gb HDD as D I have been against upgrading the 6Gb as it has a huge 4 million record database that is proprietory and I need to organise new installation disks etc etc. Is one able to install a 3rd HDD internally? I have the space Rodney
Guest Lil' Dave Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:OEO$3fdGIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message > news:OxSuF9cGIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Don't use USB. *Maximum* transfer speeds for USB 1.0 and 1.1 are 1.5Mbps > & 12Mbps, >> respectively; while USB 2.0 has a max of 480Mbps (Megabits per second), > about 40 >> times faster. A hard drive connected to USB 2.0 will transfer maybe > 40MBps >> (Megabytes per second). So, your 4 hours is better than anticipated for > USB 1.1 >> >> Why not install a second hard drive internally to an IDE connection and > transfer the >> files, then remove the drive? > > Thanks for that Glen, > I have been caught between a rock and a hard place, > > I am running a piddly 6Gb HDD as C > then a 40Gb HDD as D > > I have been against upgrading the 6Gb as it has a > huge 4 million record database that is proprietory > and I need to organise new > installation disks etc etc. > > Is one able to install a 3rd HDD internally? > I have the space > > Rodney You will have to have a mounting bracket secure to the frame of the PC case, and mounting screws for the 3rd hard drive. You will have to have a second ide port. You may need an ide ribbon cable. If its crowded, you may need additional ventilation. -- Dave Profound is we're here due to a chance arrangement of chemicals in the ocean billions of years ago. More profound is we made it to the top of the food chain per our reasoning abilities. Most profound is the denial of why we may be on the way out.
Guest glee Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. If your two hard drives are on the same (primary) IDE cable and you have a CD or other optical drive on the secondary IDE cable, you can put a third hard drive on the secondary cable with the optical drive. Jumper the third hard drive as Master and the optical drive as Slave, unless the third drive is a Western Digital. With a W-D drive, you'd set it as Single and the optical drive as Slave.. If the optical drive is using a 40-wire, 40-pin cable, you may want to replace the cable with a newer 80-wire, 40-pin cable. If the drive is "faster" than ATA-66 and the motherboard IDE controller supports greater than ATA-66, you'll need the newer cable to utilize ATA-100. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:OEO$3fdGIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message > news:OxSuF9cGIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Don't use USB. *Maximum* transfer speeds for USB 1.0 and 1.1 are 1.5Mbps > & 12Mbps, >> respectively; while USB 2.0 has a max of 480Mbps (Megabits per second), > about 40 >> times faster. A hard drive connected to USB 2.0 will transfer maybe > 40MBps >> (Megabytes per second). So, your 4 hours is better than anticipated for > USB 1.1 >> >> Why not install a second hard drive internally to an IDE connection and > transfer the >> files, then remove the drive? > > Thanks for that Glen, > I have been caught between a rock and a hard place, > > I am running a piddly 6Gb HDD as C > then a 40Gb HDD as D > > I have been against upgrading the 6Gb as it has a > huge 4 million record database that is proprietory > and I need to organise new > installation disks etc etc. > > Is one able to install a 3rd HDD internally? > I have the space > > Rodney > > > > >
Guest pjp Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. Your pc likely has two IDE channels. Each IDE channel can support two devices, for this scenario that means any combo of hard disks and/or cd drives with the caveat that there must be one hard disk on the first IDE channel and it's designated "master" (or first if using cable select settings) for the OS. Note - BIOS settings can change this basic requirement to use a second hard disk etc. to boot. Normally one receives a pc with the hard disk set to "master" on the first IDE channel and the cd drive set to "master" on the second IDE channel. That means one can add two hard disks as "Slave" on the respective channels. You having two hard disks and presumably a cd drive working now means you must have two ide channels available which means you can temporarily add an additional hard disk to make your backup. Hopefully power supply provides enough leads (many don't) but one can get a splitter to provide two power plugs from the one lead. "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:OEO$3fdGIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message > news:OxSuF9cGIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Don't use USB. *Maximum* transfer speeds for USB 1.0 and 1.1 are 1.5Mbps > & 12Mbps, > > respectively; while USB 2.0 has a max of 480Mbps (Megabits per second), > about 40 > > times faster. A hard drive connected to USB 2.0 will transfer maybe > 40MBps > > (Megabytes per second). So, your 4 hours is better than anticipated for > USB 1.1 > > > > Why not install a second hard drive internally to an IDE connection and > transfer the > > files, then remove the drive? > > Thanks for that Glen, > I have been caught between a rock and a hard place, > > I am running a piddly 6Gb HDD as C > then a 40Gb HDD as D > > I have been against upgrading the 6Gb as it has a > huge 4 million record database that is proprietory > and I need to organise new > installation disks etc etc. > > Is one able to install a 3rd HDD internally? > I have the space > > Rodney > > > > >
Guest Rod Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message Thanks Lil Dave, Glen and Pjp. I have placed your messages in archive. Faced with your solutions, I'll probably initially take the lazy route, I am a bit challenged with the effort, and the top of the box hasn't been off for years, I have stalactites of dust in there, man, it's not pleasant. I'll whip the cover off and just put an 18Gb disk on (just swap the leads on the D drive) then swap back after the backup any idea how long that would take? Thanks very much for your time in answering my query
Guest Buffalo Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:%23RwYyScGIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > copying 30Gb across to external Hdd > I have USB 1 (not sure) but it's not USB2 > Copying files across takes about 4 hours > any other way faster? > Thank you You could also buy a USB2 card that fits in a PCI slot for around $10. Then the whole process should take well under 20 min. You may have to have Win98SE though, I'm not sure if they work with Win98FE. I use one with my Win98SE and it works as advertised.
Guest Rod Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Re: Backing up to external HDD. "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message news:bfidndwG_fgVdrjanZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com... > You could also buy a USB2 card that fits in a PCI slot for around $10. > Then the whole process should take well under 20 min. > You may have to have Win98SE though, I'm not sure if they work with Win98FE. > I use one with my Win98SE and it works as advertised. Aha! I have been given bodgie advice, as I understood it, USB2 did not work on W98SE (which I have) Your route appeals very much, 20 mins is fine, (even up to 90 minutes) is bearable, time to read a few chapters of a book. Thanks Buffalo
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