TS 2000 Existing License Question

[Guest DennisFP]

In the 2000 Terminal Service Licensing console, is there any significance to

"Existing Windows 2000 License" issued "16" and yet the TS CALs listed below

that are two lines saying 5 Total & Available (issued 0) + 4 Total &

Available (issued 0).

 

Thanks for feedback -- Dennis

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: TS 2000 Existing License Question

 

The "Existing Windows 2000 License" TS CALs represent the free pool

of TS CALs on the Licensing Server, which are issued to all W2K Pro,

XP Pro and Vista clients who connect to the W2K Terminal Servers.

They are listed as "Built-in" under the heading "Type".

 

About the other lines that you see, are they called "Windows 2000

Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (per device)", with under the

heading "Type" either "Volume License", "Open", "Select", "OEM" or

"Retail"? If so, those represent purchased TS CALs.

Those licenses are necessary for all other (down-level) clients, like

Windows 9x, NT, unix, Macintosh, etc.

It seems like your company has previously owned such clients, and

thus purchased 9 TS CALs, which now aren't used any more.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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=?Utf-8?B?RGVubmlzRlA=?= <DennisFP@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 31 okt 2007 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> In the 2000 Terminal Service Licensing console, is there any

> significance to "Existing Windows 2000 License" issued "16" and

> yet the TS CALs listed below that are two lines saying 5 Total &

> Available (issued 0) + 4 Total & Available (issued 0).

>

> Thanks for feedback -- Dennis

[Guest DennisFP]

Re: TS 2000 Existing License Question

 

Do I understand then that if we have 3 more Windows 2000 or XP clients who

want to remote desktop to this TS 2000 Server, that we wouldn't have to

purchase any additional TS Cals? (We currently have 9 actual TS users).

 

If your answer is yes -- that we wouldn't have to purchase any more TS CALs

-- would that mean we could join this 2000 TS Server to the 2003 Domain,

install TS Licensing Services on the DC, and be able to have our 9 clients

connect without have to activate either the 9 licenses or TS in general on

the 2003 domain controller?

 

The 5 and 4 are listed as Select. The product column lists them as "Windows

2000 Terminal Services Client Access License" but does not specify any

further detail like Per Device.

 

Thanks for your info. -- Dennis

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> The "Existing Windows 2000 License" TS CALs represent the free pool

> of TS CALs on the Licensing Server, which are issued to all W2K Pro,

> XP Pro and Vista clients who connect to the W2K Terminal Servers.

> They are listed as "Built-in" under the heading "Type".

>

> About the other lines that you see, are they called "Windows 2000

> Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (per device)", with under the

> heading "Type" either "Volume License", "Open", "Select", "OEM" or

> "Retail"? If so, those represent purchased TS CALs.

> Those licenses are necessary for all other (down-level) clients, like

> Windows 9x, NT, unix, Macintosh, etc.

> It seems like your company has previously owned such clients, and

> thus purchased 9 TS CALs, which now aren't used any more.

> =?Utf-8?B?RGVubmlzRlA=?= <DennisFP@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote on 31 okt 2007 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > In the 2000 Terminal Service Licensing console, is there any

> > significance to "Existing Windows 2000 License" issued "16" and

> > yet the TS CALs listed below that are two lines saying 5 Total &

> > Available (issued 0) + 4 Total & Available (issued 0).

> >

> > Thanks for feedback -- Dennis

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: TS 2000 Existing License Question

 

That's correct. You can add as many W2K and XP clients as you want,

they will all get a free license, provided that they run the Pro

version of their OS. That's why the "Total" count for these built-

in liceses is listed as "Unlimited".

 

And yes, you can join the W2K TS to the 2003 domain without

purchasing any TS CALs. You must install the TS Licensing Service

(not Terminal Services!) on a 2003 DC and activate it, though. The

2003 TS Licensing Services has the same unlimited built-in

"Existing W2K TS CALs".

BUT: keep in mind that these free TS CALs are only valid when these

clients connect to a W2K TS. If you decide to upgrade the TS to

2003, then you must purchase a 2003 TS CAL for every connecting

client or user.

 

The only thing you might need to buy when the W2K TS joins the 2003

domain is normal server CALs for all clients, since they will be

authenticating to the 2003 DC and thus need a server CAL. But maybe

they already have one?

 

The 4 + 5 Select licenses are worthless if you don't need them. But

if you think that you might need them in the future (maybe you want

to use a couple of thin clients, or linux clients), then you can

re-install them on the new 2003 TS Licensing Server.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

=?Utf-8?B?RGVubmlzRlA=?= <DennisFP@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 31 okt 2007 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Do I understand then that if we have 3 more Windows 2000 or XP

> clients who want to remote desktop to this TS 2000 Server, that

> we wouldn't have to purchase any additional TS Cals? (We

> currently have 9 actual TS users).

>

> If your answer is yes -- that we wouldn't have to purchase any

> more TS CALs -- would that mean we could join this 2000 TS

> Server to the 2003 Domain, install TS Licensing Services on the

> DC, and be able to have our 9 clients connect without have to

> activate either the 9 licenses or TS in general on the 2003

> domain controller?

>

> The 5 and 4 are listed as Select. The product column lists them

> as "Windows 2000 Terminal Services Client Access License" but

> does not specify any further detail like Per Device.

>

> Thanks for your info. -- Dennis

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> The "Existing Windows 2000 License" TS CALs represent the free

>> pool of TS CALs on the Licensing Server, which are issued to

>> all W2K Pro, XP Pro and Vista clients who connect to the W2K

>> Terminal Servers. They are listed as "Built-in" under the

>> heading "Type".

>>

>> About the other lines that you see, are they called "Windows

>> 2000 Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (per device)", with

>> under the heading "Type" either "Volume License", "Open",

>> "Select", "OEM" or "Retail"? If so, those represent purchased

>> TS CALs. Those licenses are necessary for all other

>> (down-level) clients, like Windows 9x, NT, unix, Macintosh,

>> etc. It seems like your company has previously owned such

>> clients, and thus purchased 9 TS CALs, which now aren't used

>> any more.

>

>> =?Utf-8?B?RGVubmlzRlA=?= <DennisFP@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote on 31 okt 2007 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > In the 2000 Terminal Service Licensing console, is there any

>> > significance to "Existing Windows 2000 License" issued "16"

>> > and yet the TS CALs listed below that are two lines saying 5

>> > Total & Available (issued 0) + 4 Total & Available (issued

>> > 0).

>> >

>> > Thanks for feedback -- Dennis