Guest Net Admin Posted November 2, 2007 Posted November 2, 2007 I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog Servers, DNS servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about not bieng able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the database server. In the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server IPs entered. Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member server switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If so, how to I speed that process up? Thank You
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection Hello Net, Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some entries if they only show up after restart can be ignored. But we have to see the complete errors for this. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog > Servers, DNS > servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. > When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about not > bieng > able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the database > server. In > the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server IPs > entered. > Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member server > switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If so, > how to I > speed that process up? > Thank You
Guest Net Admin Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection Here is the error from a Sharepoint web server: #50070: Unable to connect to the database dbpublic on db1.mydomain.net. Check the database connection information and make sure that the database server is running. That error will occur until the DC comes back up even though the other DC is up and running just fine. db1 is up the whole time. "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello Net, > > Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some entries if they > only show up after restart can be ignored. But we have to see the complete > errors for this. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog > > Servers, DNS > > servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. > > When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about not > > bieng > > able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the database > > server. In > > the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server IPs > > entered. > > Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member server > > switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If so, > > how to I > > speed that process up? > > Thank You > > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection Hello Net, Is db1.mydomain.net the sharepoint server or an additional? Did you run netdiag on the sharepoint machine and how is your DNS setup? Seems that during the reboot the machine lost the connection to the DNS server. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > Here is the error from a Sharepoint web server: > > #50070: Unable to connect to the database dbpublic on > db1.mydomain.net. Check the database connection information and make > sure that the database server is running. > > That error will occur until the DC comes back up even though the other > DC is up and running just fine. db1 is up the whole time. > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >> Hello Net, >> >> Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some entries if >> they only show up after restart can be ignored. But we have to see >> the complete errors for this. >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>> I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog >>> Servers, DNS >>> servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. >>> When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about not >>> bieng >>> able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the database >>> server. In >>> the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server IPs >>> entered. >>> Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member server >>> switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If so, >>> how to I >>> speed that process up? >>> Thank You
Guest Net Admin Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection Db1 holds the SQL database. The Sharepoint Web Server is where I get the error whenever either of the DCs reboot. I ran netdiag and all tests came back with "Passed". I did find this to be odd though: "Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Passed Secure channel for domain 'CORP' is to '\\DC1.mydomain.com'. Cannot test secure channel to other DCs since you are not an administrator." I am an Enterprise Admin. I am a member of Admins on that server. All servers at this site use one of the DCs as their first DNS/WINS server and the other as their secondary. It does sound like during the reboot the Sharepoint Web Server lost connection to the DNS server but shouldn't it have swithed to its secondary DNS server immediately? Thanks for helping, Meinolf. "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello Net, > > Is db1.mydomain.net the sharepoint server or an additional? Did you run netdiag > on the sharepoint machine and how is your DNS setup? Seems that during the > reboot the machine lost the connection to the DNS server. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > Here is the error from a Sharepoint web server: > > > > #50070: Unable to connect to the database dbpublic on > > db1.mydomain.net. Check the database connection information and make > > sure that the database server is running. > > > > That error will occur until the DC comes back up even though the other > > DC is up and running just fine. db1 is up the whole time. > > > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > > > >> Hello Net, > >> > >> Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some entries if > >> they only show up after restart can be ignored. But we have to see > >> the complete errors for this. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Meinolf Weber > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > >> confers > >> no rights. > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >>> I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog > >>> Servers, DNS > >>> servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. > >>> When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about not > >>> bieng > >>> able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the database > >>> server. In > >>> the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server IPs > >>> entered. > >>> Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member server > >>> switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If so, > >>> how to I > >>> speed that process up? > >>> Thank You > > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection Hello Net, It will not switch immediately to the other DNS, it only will switch, if the server makes again a request and then will realize that the preferred DNS server is not available. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > Db1 holds the SQL database. The Sharepoint Web Server is where I get > the error whenever either of the DCs reboot. I ran netdiag and all > tests came back with "Passed". I did find this to be odd though: > > "Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Passed > Secure channel for domain 'CORP' is to '\\DC1.mydomain.com'. > Cannot test secure channel to other DCs since you are not an > administrator." > I am an Enterprise Admin. I am a member of Admins on that server. > All servers at this site use one of the DCs as their first DNS/WINS > server > and the other as their secondary. It does sound like during the reboot > the > Sharepoint Web Server lost connection to the DNS server but shouldn't > it have > swithed to its secondary DNS server immediately? > Thanks for helping, Meinolf. > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >> Hello Net, >> >> Is db1.mydomain.net the sharepoint server or an additional? Did you >> run netdiag on the sharepoint machine and how is your DNS setup? >> Seems that during the reboot the machine lost the connection to the >> DNS server. >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>> Here is the error from a Sharepoint web server: >>> >>> #50070: Unable to connect to the database dbpublic on >>> db1.mydomain.net. Check the database connection information and >>> make sure that the database server is running. >>> >>> That error will occur until the DC comes back up even though the >>> other DC is up and running just fine. db1 is up the whole time. >>> >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Net, >>>> >>>> Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some entries >>>> if they only show up after restart can be ignored. But we have to >>>> see the complete errors for this. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Meinolf Weber >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, >>>> and >>>> confers >>>> no rights. >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>>>> I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog >>>>> Servers, DNS >>>>> servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. >>>>> When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about >>>>> not >>>>> bieng >>>>> able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the database >>>>> server. In >>>>> the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server IPs >>>>> entered. >>>>> Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member >>>>> server >>>>> switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If >>>>> so, >>>>> how to I >>>>> speed that process up? >>>>> Thank You
Guest Net Admin Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection That's what I thought but that error continues for about 4 minutes until the server comes back up (87 errors total). It should have switched after the first few errors shouldn't it have? "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello Net, > > It will not switch immediately to the other DNS, it only will switch, if > the server makes again a request and then will realize that the preferred > DNS server is not available. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > Db1 holds the SQL database. The Sharepoint Web Server is where I get > > the error whenever either of the DCs reboot. I ran netdiag and all > > tests came back with "Passed". I did find this to be odd though: > > > > "Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Passed > > Secure channel for domain 'CORP' is to '\\DC1.mydomain.com'. > > Cannot test secure channel to other DCs since you are not an > > administrator." > > I am an Enterprise Admin. I am a member of Admins on that server. > > All servers at this site use one of the DCs as their first DNS/WINS > > server > > and the other as their secondary. It does sound like during the reboot > > the > > Sharepoint Web Server lost connection to the DNS server but shouldn't > > it have > > swithed to its secondary DNS server immediately? > > Thanks for helping, Meinolf. > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > > > >> Hello Net, > >> > >> Is db1.mydomain.net the sharepoint server or an additional? Did you > >> run netdiag on the sharepoint machine and how is your DNS setup? > >> Seems that during the reboot the machine lost the connection to the > >> DNS server. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Meinolf Weber > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > >> confers > >> no rights. > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >>> Here is the error from a Sharepoint web server: > >>> > >>> #50070: Unable to connect to the database dbpublic on > >>> db1.mydomain.net. Check the database connection information and > >>> make sure that the database server is running. > >>> > >>> That error will occur until the DC comes back up even though the > >>> other DC is up and running just fine. db1 is up the whole time. > >>> > >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello Net, > >>>> > >>>> Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some entries > >>>> if they only show up after restart can be ignored. But we have to > >>>> see the complete errors for this. > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> > >>>> Meinolf Weber > >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, > >>>> and > >>>> confers > >>>> no rights. > >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >>>>> I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog > >>>>> Servers, DNS > >>>>> servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. > >>>>> When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about > >>>>> not > >>>>> bieng > >>>>> able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the database > >>>>> server. In > >>>>> the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server IPs > >>>>> entered. > >>>>> Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member > >>>>> server > >>>>> switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If > >>>>> so, > >>>>> how to I > >>>>> speed that process up? > >>>>> Thank You > > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection Hello Net, Good question, but i am not a DNS expert for this details. I would think the same like you, but maybe the connection to the database does not completely needs DNS during work. Except from the Sharepoint error, are there anything else in the event viewer in this timeframe? With dnslint you can also check DNS name resolution issues. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321045 Have you also checked the DC/DNS servers with dcdiag and netdiag for errors, just to be sure that there is no additional problem? And do you use Active directory integrated zones? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > That's what I thought but that error continues for about 4 minutes > until the server comes back up (87 errors total). It should have > switched after the first few errors shouldn't it have? > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >> Hello Net, >> >> It will not switch immediately to the other DNS, it only will switch, >> if the server makes again a request and then will realize that the >> preferred DNS server is not available. >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>> Db1 holds the SQL database. The Sharepoint Web Server is where I get >>> the error whenever either of the DCs reboot. I ran netdiag and all >>> tests came back with "Passed". I did find this to be odd though: >>> >>> "Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Passed >>> Secure channel for domain 'CORP' is to '\\DC1.mydomain.com'. >>> Cannot test secure channel to other DCs since you are not an >>> administrator." >>> I am an Enterprise Admin. I am a member of Admins on that server. >>> All servers at this site use one of the DCs as their first DNS/WINS >>> server >>> and the other as their secondary. It does sound like during the >>> reboot >>> the >>> Sharepoint Web Server lost connection to the DNS server but >>> shouldn't >>> it have >>> swithed to its secondary DNS server immediately? >>> Thanks for helping, Meinolf. >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: >>>> Hello Net, >>>> >>>> Is db1.mydomain.net the sharepoint server or an additional? Did you >>>> run netdiag on the sharepoint machine and how is your DNS setup? >>>> Seems that during the reboot the machine lost the connection to the >>>> DNS server. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Meinolf Weber >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, >>>> and >>>> confers >>>> no rights. >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>>>> Here is the error from a Sharepoint web server: >>>>> >>>>> #50070: Unable to connect to the database dbpublic on >>>>> db1.mydomain.net. Check the database connection information and >>>>> make sure that the database server is running. >>>>> >>>>> That error will occur until the DC comes back up even though the >>>>> other DC is up and running just fine. db1 is up the whole time. >>>>> >>>>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Net, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some >>>>>> entries if they only show up after restart can be ignored. But we >>>>>> have to see the complete errors for this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Meinolf Weber >>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, >>>>>> and >>>>>> confers >>>>>> no rights. >>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>>>>>> I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog >>>>>>> Servers, DNS >>>>>>> servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. >>>>>>> When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> bieng >>>>>>> able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the >>>>>>> database >>>>>>> server. In >>>>>>> the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server >>>>>>> IPs >>>>>>> entered. >>>>>>> Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member >>>>>>> server >>>>>>> switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If >>>>>>> so, >>>>>>> how to I >>>>>>> speed that process up? >>>>>>> Thank You
Guest Net Admin Posted November 4, 2007 Posted November 4, 2007 Re: Rebooting server causes PC to lose connection No, no other errors whatsoever. I did check all DCs for DNS errors some time back. Maybe I should do it again. I had forgotten about DNSLint Thank You Meinolf, I will run tests and respond with the results tomorrow. "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello Net, > > Good question, but i am not a DNS expert for this details. I would think > the same like you, but maybe the connection to the database does not completely > needs DNS during work. Except from the Sharepoint error, are there anything > else in the event viewer in this timeframe? > > With dnslint you can also check DNS name resolution issues. > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321045 > > Have you also checked the DC/DNS servers with dcdiag and netdiag for errors, > just to be sure that there is no additional problem? And do you use Active > directory integrated zones? > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > That's what I thought but that error continues for about 4 minutes > > until the server comes back up (87 errors total). It should have > > switched after the first few errors shouldn't it have? > > > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > > > >> Hello Net, > >> > >> It will not switch immediately to the other DNS, it only will switch, > >> if the server makes again a request and then will realize that the > >> preferred DNS server is not available. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Meinolf Weber > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > >> confers > >> no rights. > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >>> Db1 holds the SQL database. The Sharepoint Web Server is where I get > >>> the error whenever either of the DCs reboot. I ran netdiag and all > >>> tests came back with "Passed". I did find this to be odd though: > >>> > >>> "Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Passed > >>> Secure channel for domain 'CORP' is to '\\DC1.mydomain.com'. > >>> Cannot test secure channel to other DCs since you are not an > >>> administrator." > >>> I am an Enterprise Admin. I am a member of Admins on that server. > >>> All servers at this site use one of the DCs as their first DNS/WINS > >>> server > >>> and the other as their secondary. It does sound like during the > >>> reboot > >>> the > >>> Sharepoint Web Server lost connection to the DNS server but > >>> shouldn't > >>> it have > >>> swithed to its secondary DNS server immediately? > >>> Thanks for helping, Meinolf. > >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >>>> Hello Net, > >>>> > >>>> Is db1.mydomain.net the sharepoint server or an additional? Did you > >>>> run netdiag on the sharepoint machine and how is your DNS setup? > >>>> Seems that during the reboot the machine lost the connection to the > >>>> DNS server. > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> > >>>> Meinolf Weber > >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, > >>>> and > >>>> confers > >>>> no rights. > >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >>>>> Here is the error from a Sharepoint web server: > >>>>> > >>>>> #50070: Unable to connect to the database dbpublic on > >>>>> db1.mydomain.net. Check the database connection information and > >>>>> make sure that the database server is running. > >>>>> > >>>>> That error will occur until the DC comes back up even though the > >>>>> other DC is up and running just fine. db1 is up the whole time. > >>>>> > >>>>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hello Net, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please post the complete error from the event viewer. Some > >>>>>> entries if they only show up after restart can be ignored. But we > >>>>>> have to see the complete errors for this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Meinolf Weber > >>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> confers > >>>>>> no rights. > >>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >>>>>>> I have 2 Domain Controllers at my site. Both are Global Catalog > >>>>>>> Servers, DNS > >>>>>>> servers, WINS servers, and are version 2003 Standard with SP2. > >>>>>>> When I reboot either one, some of my servers report errors about > >>>>>>> not > >>>>>>> bieng > >>>>>>> able to connect to other servers in my domain such as the > >>>>>>> database > >>>>>>> server. In > >>>>>>> the IP properties of each member server I have both DNS server > >>>>>>> IPs > >>>>>>> entered. > >>>>>>> Is there a timeout period that has to occur before the member > >>>>>>> server > >>>>>>> switches over to another DC to authenticate or resolve names? If > >>>>>>> so, > >>>>>>> how to I > >>>>>>> speed that process up? > >>>>>>> Thank You > > >
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