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I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or other

bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user and the

local user to both be able to see and share the same session? (as with most

"remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

 

If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.

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Guest Jabez Gan [MVP]

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Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

Try:

mstsc /admin

 

FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will be

removed very soon.

 

--

Jabez Gan

Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

"Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or

> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user

> and the local user to both be able to see and share the same session? (as

> with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>

> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Posted
Posted

Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with RC0:

1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no

error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if you

pass the admin tag.

 

 

"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

> Try:

> mstsc /admin

>

> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will

> be removed very soon.

>

> --

> Jabez Gan

> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or

>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user

>> and the local user to both be able to see and share the same session?

>> (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>>

>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.

>

Guest Jabez Gan [MVP]

Guest Jabez Gan [MVP]

Posted
Posted

Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

Hmm...

 

I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the

command should be /admin.

 

Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still

doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.

 

--

Jabez Gan

Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

"Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:FC4A8327-1781-4207-8688-2AB92CAE57DE@microsoft.com...

> thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with RC0:

> 1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no

> error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

> 2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if

> you pass the admin tag.

>

>

> "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

> news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

>> Try:

>> mstsc /admin

>>

>> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will

>> be removed very soon.

>>

>> --

>> Jabez Gan

>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

>>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or

>>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user

>>> and the local user to both be able to see and share the same session?

>>> (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>>>

>>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.

>>

>

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Posted
Posted

Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it

functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're

reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking

mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).

 

If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be

controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local

interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in

Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?

 

Thanks.

 

"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

news:115E314A-BEE1-4F15-B72C-AC0A013EE7F1@microsoft.com...

> Hmm...

>

> I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the

> command should be /admin.

>

> Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still

> doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.

>

> --

> Jabez Gan

> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

> news:FC4A8327-1781-4207-8688-2AB92CAE57DE@microsoft.com...

>> thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with

>> RC0:

>> 1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no

>> error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

>> 2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if

>> you pass the admin tag.

>>

>>

>> "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>> news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

>>> Try:

>>> mstsc /admin

>>>

>>> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will

>>> be removed very soon.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Jabez Gan

>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

>>>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or

>>>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote

>>>> user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same

>>>> session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>>>>

>>>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.

>>>

>>

>

Guest Jeffrey Randow

Guest Jeffrey Randow

Posted
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Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow

the console session?

---

Jeffrey Randow

jeffreycentex@gmail.com

Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

http://www.networkblog.net

 

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

<limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it

>functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're

>reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking

>mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).

>

>If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be

>controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local

>interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in

>Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?

>

>Thanks.

>

>"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>news:115E314A-BEE1-4F15-B72C-AC0A013EE7F1@microsoft.com...

>> Hmm...

>>

>> I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the

>> command should be /admin.

>>

>> Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still

>> doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.

>>

>> --

>> Jabez Gan

>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>> news:FC4A8327-1781-4207-8688-2AB92CAE57DE@microsoft.com...

>>> thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with

>>> RC0:

>>> 1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no

>>> error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

>>> 2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if

>>> you pass the admin tag.

>>>

>>>

>>> "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>> news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

>>>> Try:

>>>> mstsc /admin

>>>>

>>>> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will

>>>> be removed very soon.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>>>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

>>>>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or

>>>>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote

>>>>> user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same

>>>>> session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>>>>>

>>>>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.

>>>>

>>>

>>

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Posted
Posted

Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I

need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,

like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is

that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find

anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.

 

 

 

 

"Jeffrey Randow" <jeffreycentex@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:h35ij3lrdqb1p6iou8opruk8ur5kg9cr51@4ax.com...

> What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow

> the console session?

> ---

> Jeffrey Randow

> jeffreycentex@gmail.com

> Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

> http://www.networkblog.net

>

> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

> <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>

>>It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it

>>functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're

>>reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking

>>mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).

>>

>>If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be

>>controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local

>>interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something

>>in

>>Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?

>>

>>Thanks.

>>

>>"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>news:115E314A-BEE1-4F15-B72C-AC0A013EE7F1@microsoft.com...

>>> Hmm...

>>>

>>> I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the

>>> command should be /admin.

>>>

>>> Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still

>>> doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Jabez Gan

>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>> news:FC4A8327-1781-4207-8688-2AB92CAE57DE@microsoft.com...

>>>> thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with

>>>> RC0:

>>>> 1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no

>>>> error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

>>>> 2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if

>>>> you pass the admin tag.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Try:

>>>>> mstsc /admin

>>>>>

>>>>> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console

>>>>> will

>>>>> be removed very soon.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>>> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

>>>>>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or

>>>>>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote

>>>>>> user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same

>>>>>> session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.

>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

Guest Jeffrey Randow

Guest Jeffrey Randow

Posted
Posted

Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

See the bottom half of the following KB article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845

 

This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with

W2K8 yet.

---

Jeffrey Randow

jeffreycentex@gmail.com

Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

http://www.networkblog.net

 

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

<limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I

>need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,

>like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is

>that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find

>anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.

>

>

>

>

>"Jeffrey Randow" <jeffreycentex@gmail.com> wrote in message

>news:h35ij3lrdqb1p6iou8opruk8ur5kg9cr51@4ax.com...

>> What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow

>> the console session?

>> ---

>> Jeffrey Randow

>> jeffreycentex@gmail.com

>> Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

>> http://www.networkblog.net

>>

>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

>> <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>>

>>>It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it

>>>functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're

>>>reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking

>>>mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).

>>>

>>>If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be

>>>controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local

>>>interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something

>>>in

>>>Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?

>>>

>>>Thanks.

>>>

>>>"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>>news:115E314A-BEE1-4F15-B72C-AC0A013EE7F1@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hmm...

>>>>

>>>> I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the

>>>> command should be /admin.

>>>>

>>>> Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still

>>>> doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>> news:FC4A8327-1781-4207-8688-2AB92CAE57DE@microsoft.com...

>>>>> thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with

>>>>> RC0:

>>>>> 1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no

>>>>> error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

>>>>> 2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if

>>>>> you pass the admin tag.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Try:

>>>>>> mstsc /admin

>>>>>>

>>>>>> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console

>>>>>> will

>>>>>> be removed very soon.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.

>>>>>>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or

>>>>>>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote

>>>>>>> user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same

>>>>>>> session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.

>>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Posted
Posted

Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

Thanks. That doesn't work:

#1. Since there is no (functional) console switch to begin with in Server

2008, the local user is already automatically booted off by the time you've

logged in (so you can't share the session).

#2. Even if #1 weren't the case, the shadow 0 command requires that the

local user give permission, i.e. you can't share the session unless someone

is there and manually types yes. (at least I assume that's how it would

work in Server 2003--you don't get this far with 2008.)

 

It's strange that Microsoft didn't include this basic adminstration

functionality in Windows 2008, when it's been around forever and everywhere

else (pcanywhere, vnc, etc.)--I suppose it might be to enforce client

license requirements, but it's a very annoying limitation, esp. when remote

control programs won't be updated for some time to work with Windows Server

2008.

 

 

 

"Jeffrey Randow" <jeffreycentex@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:8dqkj3d4coropfsab0jpp1pcst7oebge2f@4ax.com...

> See the bottom half of the following KB article:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845

>

> This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with

> W2K8 yet.

> ---

> Jeffrey Randow

> jeffreycentex@gmail.com

> Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

> http://www.networkblog.net

>

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

> <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>

>>How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I

>>need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same

>>session,

>>like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance

>>is

>>that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find

>>anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>"Jeffrey Randow" <jeffreycentex@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>news:h35ij3lrdqb1p6iou8opruk8ur5kg9cr51@4ax.com...

>>> What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow

>>> the console session?

>>> ---

>>> Jeffrey Randow

>>> jeffreycentex@gmail.com

>>> Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

>>> http://www.networkblog.net

>>>

>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

>>> <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>>>

>>>>It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it

>>>>functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if

>>>>you're

>>>>reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking

>>>>mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).

>>>>

>>>>If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be

>>>>controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the

>>>>local

>>>>interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something

>>>>in

>>>>Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?

>>>>

>>>>Thanks.

>>>>

>>>>"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:115E314A-BEE1-4F15-B72C-AC0A013EE7F1@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Hmm...

>>>>>

>>>>> I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1,

>>>>> the

>>>>> command should be /admin.

>>>>>

>>>>> Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it

>>>>> still

>>>>> doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>>> news:FC4A8327-1781-4207-8688-2AB92CAE57DE@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with

>>>>>> RC0:

>>>>>> 1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008

>>>>>> (no

>>>>>> error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

>>>>>> 2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run

>>>>>> if

>>>>>> you pass the admin tag.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Try:

>>>>>>> mstsc /admin

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console

>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>> be removed very soon.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server

>>>>>>>>2008.

>>>>>>>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop

>>>>>>>> (or

>>>>>>>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote

>>>>>>>> user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same

>>>>>>>> session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.

>>>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Guest Tech_vs_Life

Posted
Posted

Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

Okay, I didn't find how to get rid of the permission prompt, but I did find

out how to shadow (with permission)--apparently it requires that the remote

user not have the same user name as the local user. (in a workgroup

situation, the local user can have the same name as the remote user, but

that causes rdp to ALWAYS boot off the local user when the remote user dials

in.)

 

How do I turn off (in Win 2008) the local permission prompt required before

shadowing an existing session?

 

 

"Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:9196EF60-0697-49C9-AEAF-2F5A2340D59B@microsoft.com...

> Thanks. That doesn't work:

> #1. Since there is no (functional) console switch to begin with in Server

> 2008, the local user is already automatically booted off by the time

> you've logged in (so you can't share the session).

> #2. Even if #1 weren't the case, the shadow 0 command requires that the

> local user give permission, i.e. you can't share the session unless

> someone is there and manually types yes. (at least I assume that's how it

> would work in Server 2003--you don't get this far with 2008.)

>

> It's strange that Microsoft didn't include this basic adminstration

> functionality in Windows 2008, when it's been around forever and

> everywhere else (pcanywhere, vnc, etc.)--I suppose it might be to enforce

> client license requirements, but it's a very annoying limitation, esp.

> when remote control programs won't be updated for some time to work with

> Windows Server 2008.

>

>

>

> "Jeffrey Randow" <jeffreycentex@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:8dqkj3d4coropfsab0jpp1pcst7oebge2f@4ax.com...

>> See the bottom half of the following KB article:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845

>>

>> This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with

>> W2K8 yet.

>> ---

>> Jeffrey Randow

>> jeffreycentex@gmail.com

>> Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

>> http://www.networkblog.net

>>

>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

>> <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>>

>>>How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I

>>>need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same

>>>session,

>>>like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance

>>>is

>>>that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't

>>>find

>>>anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>"Jeffrey Randow" <jeffreycentex@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>news:h35ij3lrdqb1p6iou8opruk8ur5kg9cr51@4ax.com...

>>>> What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow

>>>> the console session?

>>>> ---

>>>> Jeffrey Randow

>>>> jeffreycentex@gmail.com

>>>> Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006

>>>> http://www.networkblog.net

>>>>

>>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"

>>>> <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it

>>>>>functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if

>>>>>you're

>>>>>reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking

>>>>>mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).

>>>>>

>>>>>If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be

>>>>>controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the

>>>>>local

>>>>>interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably

>>>>>something

>>>>>in

>>>>>Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?

>>>>>

>>>>>Thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>>"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>>>>news:115E314A-BEE1-4F15-B72C-AC0A013EE7F1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Hmm...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1,

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> command should be /admin.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it

>>>>>> still

>>>>>> doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:FC4A8327-1781-4207-8688-2AB92CAE57DE@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least

>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>> RC0:

>>>>>>> 1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008

>>>>>>> (no

>>>>>>> error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).

>>>>>>> 2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run

>>>>>>> if

>>>>>>> you pass the admin tag.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:2677E152-26F4-4612-8519-A180DA956B4B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Try:

>>>>>>>> mstsc /admin

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console

>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>> be removed very soon.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Jabez Gan

>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage

>>>>>>>> "Tech_vs_Life" <limited@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:9B93B14C-60D0-481E-BDA9-BA45B509ED05@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server

>>>>>>>>>2008.

>>>>>>>>> Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop

>>>>>>>>> (or

>>>>>>>>> other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the

>>>>>>>>> remote

>>>>>>>>> user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same

>>>>>>>>> session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like

>>>>>>>>> pcanywhere).

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.

>>>>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>

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Re: Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access

 

Thanks for the help. I found out that these instructions for win 2003 were

close enough to get me where I wanted in win 2008:

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292190

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