Guest alvinamorey@notmail.com Posted November 11, 2007 Posted November 11, 2007 Re: 250 GB drives - please help On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:07:53 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > >"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:47363BF6.67EC8BA3@Guy.com... >> Rod Speed wrote: >> >> > > What do I need to do to get my system to >> > > recognize and boot from a 250 GB drive? >> > >> > Upgrade the OS for starters, 98SE doesnt support drives over >> > 128GB properly. >> >> The problem for win-98 and drives larger than 128 gb is the >> protected-mode driver ESDI_506.PDR. There are modified/fixed versions >> of it available via the win-98 forum on msfn.org. The Intel >> Application Accelerator also supplied a different (replacement) file >> that breaks the 128 gb barrier - but only for systems with certain >> Intel chipset's. >> >> However, the problem can be avoided by using a third-party IDE or SATA >> adapter card, or if the system has on-board SATA controller. When >> installing and running win-98 on a SATA hard drive, the driver >> ESDI_506.PDR does not come into play. >> >> > > Or, is it better to just use the Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 PCI >> > > Adapter Card? >> > >> > That wont fix the OS problem. >> >> Most likely it will. Third-party PCI controller cards will usually >> come with their own equivalent to the original MS driver ESDI_506.PDR. >> >> Natively, win-98 can handle drives at least as large as 500 gb, and >> with at many as 120 million clusters. I've formatted a 500 gb drive >> as FAT32 using (forcing) 4kb cluster size and win-98 has no problem >> with it (although scandisk and defrag don't exactly like it). >> >> > > Using the Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 PCI Adapter Card, how >> > > do I set the BIOS in order to boot from the 250 GB drive? >> > >> > You need a biosed card to do that. >> >> Disable your on-board IDE controllers in the BIOS, or fool around with >> the boot order sequence. >> >> And I suggest you get a PCI *SATA* controller, not IDE (unless you >> already have a 250 gb IDE (PATA) drive. > > >Yes, you are quite right. The following URL ... >http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/42489/ >was of particular help. But, in my case, >the following BIOS settings did the trick ... > >Boot Sequence ... > >1) Removable Device [Legacy Floppy] >2) ATAPI CD-ROM [LITE-ON LTR-52246S] >3) Other Boot Device [Onboard ATA Boot] >4) IDE Hard Drive [sT3120026A] > > >Another question I have is ... >can the Win98SE boot partition be greater than 8 GB? >Is there a workaround? > If you got a 250gb drive I sure hope they can be bigger than 8gb. Just curious. Why does anyone need a 250gb drive? For that matter, why anything larger than 100gb? I only have 40gb (two 20's combined). I have about 65% free space and I store lots of photos, music, downloads, and other junk, which could be put onto a cd or other storage media. If I dumped all of that off, I'd only be using about 25% of my drive space. Is this just "bigger is better" thinking, or what? Granted, if you are into games you'll use much more than I do, but 250 is just really excessive.
Guest Adam Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Re: 250 GB drives - please help Re: 250 GB drives - please help <alvinamorey@notmail.com> wrote in message news:7r3fj3dpf3f1jn7964rtbpg9p2hqdom4do@4ax.com... > On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:07:53 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > > > > >"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:47363BF6.67EC8BA3@Guy.com... > >> Rod Speed wrote: > >> > >> > > What do I need to do to get my system to > >> > > recognize and boot from a 250 GB drive? > >> > > >> > Upgrade the OS for starters, 98SE doesnt support drives over > >> > 128GB properly. > >> > >> The problem for win-98 and drives larger than 128 gb is the > >> protected-mode driver ESDI_506.PDR. There are modified/fixed versions > >> of it available via the win-98 forum on msfn.org. The Intel > >> Application Accelerator also supplied a different (replacement) file > >> that breaks the 128 gb barrier - but only for systems with certain > >> Intel chipset's. > >> > >> However, the problem can be avoided by using a third-party IDE or SATA > >> adapter card, or if the system has on-board SATA controller. When > >> installing and running win-98 on a SATA hard drive, the driver > >> ESDI_506.PDR does not come into play. > >> > >> > > Or, is it better to just use the Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 PCI > >> > > Adapter Card? > >> > > >> > That wont fix the OS problem. > >> > >> Most likely it will. Third-party PCI controller cards will usually > >> come with their own equivalent to the original MS driver ESDI_506.PDR. > >> > >> Natively, win-98 can handle drives at least as large as 500 gb, and > >> with at many as 120 million clusters. I've formatted a 500 gb drive > >> as FAT32 using (forcing) 4kb cluster size and win-98 has no problem > >> with it (although scandisk and defrag don't exactly like it). > >> > >> > > Using the Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 PCI Adapter Card, how > >> > > do I set the BIOS in order to boot from the 250 GB drive? > >> > > >> > You need a biosed card to do that. > >> > >> Disable your on-board IDE controllers in the BIOS, or fool around with > >> the boot order sequence. > >> > >> And I suggest you get a PCI *SATA* controller, not IDE (unless you > >> already have a 250 gb IDE (PATA) drive. > > > > > >Yes, you are quite right. The following URL ... > >http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/42489/ > >was of particular help. But, in my case, > >the following BIOS settings did the trick ... > > > >Boot Sequence ... > > > >1) Removable Device [Legacy Floppy] > >2) ATAPI CD-ROM [LITE-ON LTR-52246S] > >3) Other Boot Device [Onboard ATA Boot] > >4) IDE Hard Drive [sT3120026A] > > > > > >Another question I have is ... > >can the Win98SE boot partition be greater than 8 GB? > >Is there a workaround? > > > > If you got a 250gb drive I sure hope they can be bigger than 8gb. > Just curious. Why does anyone need a 250gb drive? For that matter, > why anything larger than 100gb? I only have 40gb (two 20's combined). > I have about 65% free space and I store lots of photos, music, > downloads, and other junk, which could be put onto a cd or other > storage media. If I dumped all of that off, I'd only be using about > 25% of my drive space. Is this just "bigger is better" thinking, or > what? Granted, if you are into games you'll use much more than I do, > but 250 is just really excessive. Agreed, 250 GB does seem excessive. But, it was time to replace a 3 year old HDD and ~$60 (on sale) for a 250 GB Ultra ATA/100 7200 RPM 16 MB HDD was a deal too good to pass up. I use it for backing up all the various data partitions and OSes that I have to work with.
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