Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

[Guest BradinMuskoka]

We have one remaining Windows 98 se CD in the organization that I can find

and it is not readable any longer. I need to re-install Win98 SE on one of

our older P2 machines that can't be upgraded to run anything else. Win98 will

work fine for use with terminal services. I have the product key from this

original Win98 SE CD. Does anyone know where I can download and burn another

Win98 CE CD for free?

 

Thanks, Brad

[Guest PCR]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

BradinMuskoka wrote:

| We have one remaining Windows 98 se CD in the organization that I can

| find and it is not readable any longer. I need to re-install Win98 SE

| on one of our older P2 machines that can't be upgraded to run

| anything else. Win98 will work fine for use with terminal services. I

| have the product key from this original Win98 SE CD. Does anyone know

| where I can download and burn another Win98 CE CD for free?

 

Some say there are illegal WEB sites that will have such a thing-- but

these may well have been set up by terrorists! I don't know... maybe

call MS at 1-800-642-7676, to see whether you get a kindly MS personage

to replace it. I believe some here may have said there is one kindly

personage still there!

 

Otherwise, in the course of installing that CD onto one of the other

machines, did you copy the .cab's folder onto its hard drive? Normally,

on the CD that folder is named "Win98", I believe. If copied to a hard

drive, normally it is named... "C:\Windows\Options\CABS". At a DOS

Prompt, try...

 

C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab

Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS

BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB

1 file(s) 168,960 bytes

 

If there are a slew of other .cab files in that folder & a "Setup.exe"--

then that's it!

 

| Thanks, Brad

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

BradinMuskoka wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can download and burn another Win98 SE

> CD for free?

 

http://www.torrentz.com/bdfd6b7c0cd4d1c1cfa0a4ae6bbf3cf22159b235

 

http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=windows%2098&ts

 

http://www.fulldls.com/torrent-app-69310.html

 

http://www.pirateaccess.com/download-full-crack-rapidshare-torrent-Windows-98-Plus.html

 

http://www.zoozle.org/emule-bittorrent-download/windows%2098,torrent,en,0.html

 

http://www.sumotorrent.com/search/windows+98+se.html

 

http://www.torrentz.com/a15976d09671192b52ae7ae85cc038b4232ccb9e

[Guest plastic-fantastic@lover.com]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:14:17 -0500, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote:

>BradinMuskoka wrote:

>

>> Does anyone know where I can download and burn another Win98 SE

>> CD for free?

>

>http://www.torrentz.com/bdfd6b7c0cd4d1c1cfa0a4ae6bbf3cf22159b235

>

>http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=windows%2098&ts

>

>http://www.fulldls.com/torrent-app-69310.html

>

>http://www.pirateaccess.com/download-full-crack-rapidshare-torrent-Windows-98-Plus.html

>

>http://www.zoozle.org/emule-bittorrent-download/windows%2098,torrent,en,0.html

>

>http://www.sumotorrent.com/search/windows+98+se.html

>

>http://www.torrentz.com/a15976d09671192b52ae7ae85cc038b4232ccb9e

 

And you'll get at least a half of gig of viruses included with any of

these sites listed above. Any site with the word "torrent" is a site

filled with viruses and spyware.

 

Why not just go to a used computer store or online auction. You can

probably get one for $10 or less.

This time make a backup !!!!

Actually, I copied all the Win98 install files to my harddrive.

I find it very irritating to have to install a CD everytime I need a

driver or something, and the 98 install is not all that large.

 

Then too, if you ask on an XP or Vista newsgroup, you will likely find

many people wanting to make a few bucks off an old 98 CD they no

longer use. You may even find a friend with one who give it to you

for free, or who will burn you a copy. There are millions of these CDs

around.

[Guest MEB]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

 

<plastic-fantastic@lover.com> wrote in message

news:rstnj3180iedgv062d1olv2dptbusks4af@4ax.com...

| On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:14:17 -0500, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote:

|

| >BradinMuskoka wrote:

| >

| >> Does anyone know where I can download and burn another Win98 SE

| >> CD for free?

| >

| >http://www.torrentz.com/bdfd6b7c0cd4d1c1cfa0a4ae6bbf3cf22159b235

| >

| >http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=windows%2098&ts

| >

| >http://www.fulldls.com/torrent-app-69310.html

| >

|

>http://www.pirateaccess.com/download-full-crack-rapidshare-torrent-Windows-

98-Plus.html

| >

|

>http://www.zoozle.org/emule-bittorrent-download/windows%2098,torrent,en,0.h

tml

| >

| >http://www.sumotorrent.com/search/windows+98+se.html

| >

| >http://www.torrentz.com/a15976d09671192b52ae7ae85cc038b4232ccb9e

|

| And you'll get at least a half of gig of viruses included with any of

| these sites listed above. Any site with the word "torrent" is a site

| filled with viruses and spyware.

|

| Why not just go to a used computer store or online auction. You can

| probably get one for $10 or less.

| This time make a backup !!!!

| Actually, I copied all the Win98 install files to my harddrive.

| I find it very irritating to have to install a CD everytime I need a

| driver or something, and the 98 install is not all that large.

|

| Then too, if you ask on an XP or Vista newsgroup, you will likely find

| many people wanting to make a few bucks off an old 98 CD they no

| longer use. You may even find a friend with one who give it to you

| for free, or who will burn you a copy. There are millions of these CDs

| around.

|

 

 

And that is some good advise... then again the torrent using infected people

give us and the other help forums something to diagnose and fix....

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

Full-quoter MEB wrote:

 

(thanks for re-posting the supposedly dangerous links)

> | And you'll get at least a half of gig of viruses included with

> | any of these sites listed above.

 

So download multiple versions and check their files for similarities

and differences.

 

Then scan the files before using them.

 

If you're installing 98 on a new or blank hard drive, you've got

nothing to lose even if the install files have malware. It would be

quite a feat to build malware into the cab files in such a way that 98

would install itself and the malware correctly that would still result

in a functional (yet infected) system.

 

And once 98 has been installed and verified to work, then remove the

drive and slave it to another system and scan it before using it.

 

I've downloaded lots of major apps from torrents (some that take 5

DVD's to install, like Adobe Premier) and none have tested positive

for malware.

[Guest MEB]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

 

 

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> an apparent dimwit loser, wrote in message

news:473C6065.530C78B@Guy.com...

| Full-quoter MEB wrote:

|

| (thanks for re-posting the supposedly dangerous links)

 

The more warnings the better... every time you post and bring notice to the

illegal issues, you shout to the world just how friggin intelligent you,

personally, really are...

 

|

| > | And you'll get at least a half of gig of viruses included with

| > | any of these sites listed above.

|

| So download multiple versions and check their files for similarities

| and differences.

 

Uhuh, and you check them with/against what? Each other, now that's really

bright... so which one is the one to use, you know, for your reference

{DUUUUUUUHHHHHH} ...

 

|

| Then scan the files before using them.

 

Scan them with your infected system, another bright response ...

 

|

| If you're installing 98 on a new or blank hard drive, you've got

| nothing to lose even if the install files have malware. It would be

| quite a feat to build malware into the cab files in such a way that 98

| would install itself and the malware correctly that would still result

| in a functional (yet infected) system.

 

Nothing to lose but perhaps a boot sector virus, one of the virus that

create their own hidden partitions which most users would never notice, or

some root kit or back orifice like activity... yep, you are friggin

brilliant ..

 

This is another of your completely worthless postings,,, "quite a feat"

takes nothing more than cabarc, I6comp {or 5}, one of the other Microsoft

provided tools, MSI kit or a clone, or one of the hacker tools which

mimic/create the necessary files...

And here's the key to how openly stupid that part of your post is [and most

of your posts related to this activity are]:

you HAVE downloaded stuff from MGDx and MSFN, and installed files WHICH

WERE MODIFIED IN EXACTLY THAT FASHION [ah oh dats right,, i's done dat

befer}}}}}}}}}}}}blink{{{{{{{{huh, wats dat!!!].....

 

|

| And once 98 has been installed and verified to work, then remove the

| drive and slave it to another system and scan it before using it.

 

Yep VUNDERFUL MIEN HEIR, another super sophisticated idea,,, infect the

other systems you may have,,, you apparently DON'Trealise there are virus

that can infect systems JUST because they were accessed BY ANY PROGRAM or

specifically when done BY anti-virus progs, oops a hidden secret there

{NOT!!!!}.... . . .

 

|

| I've downloaded lots of major apps from torrents (some that take 5

| DVD's to install, like Adobe Premier) and none have tested positive

| for malware.

 

REALLY, and how would you know that, remember you posted recently in here

that you don't use anti-virus software... teeeheee,,,, tsk, tsk,,,,,

Moreover, I'd place a bet that you've used pirated and potentially infected

OSs to RUN the supposed anti-virus software [which you previously claimed

not to use]... and tested those with another potentially pirated and

infected OS... and since you torrent with unknown other users and you allow

that access, you can be {and likely were} infected at any time ....

 

Look, I realize you have an agenda, that you're not very bright [or you

appear that way], and are still attempting to establish yourself as a world

expert... but I warned you before, that ANY time you posted this crap that

might affect the security of other users, I would "hit you up side da head

wit a 2 X 4" until you learn to keep this junk out of THIS forum... you post

in other forums, keep this crap out there ....

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

MEB wrote:

> | So download multiple versions and check their files for

> | similarities and differences.

>

> Uhuh, and you check them with/against what? Each other,

 

Well, Mr. Clueless, when you check them against each other, and if

there ARE differences, then you have reason to suspect them.

 

If there are no differences, then most likely, almost garanteed they

are the real thing. It would be very tricky to plant the same fake

copy (of anything) on multiple torrents and have that as the ONLY

version available for download.

> Scan them with your infected system, another bright response

 

Again Mr. Stupid, you scan it with the system you're using to download

it. I feel like I'm talking to a child here.

> Nothing to lose but perhaps a boot sector virus,

 

Which when you slave the drive to a second (trusted) machine and scan

it the boot-sector virus becomes plainly visible, in which case you

fdisk and format the drive to get rid of the malware.

> This is another of your completely worthless postings,,,

> "quite a feat" takes nothing more than cabarc,

 

And again if you compare multiple versions of the same cab files

you'll discover whether or not any of them are suspect.

> And here's the key to how openly stupid that part of your post

> is:

 

Oh my, I can't wait to read it

> you HAVE downloaded stuff from MGDx and MSFN, and installed

> files WHICH WERE MODIFIED IN EXACTLY THAT FASHION

 

Yes, Mr. Moron, I have, but not before submitting the files to VT.

 

But in the case of a commercial distro like Win-98, the size of all

cabs are listed by MS, and like I've said before, if I download it

from 3 or 4 different torrents and they all compare exactly, then you

tell me what the odds are that it's got malware?

 

Hey, tell you what.

 

I'll download a few of them and I'll check them against the real

thing, then I'll post back here and tell people which ones are good

and which ones have been tampered with. That should make you happy -

no?

> | And once 98 has been installed and verified to work, then

> | remove the drive and slave it to another system and scan

> | it before using it.

>

> infect the other systems you may have

 

Another piece of hyperbole courtesy of Mr. MEB. I guess if someone is

as sloppy as your own thought-process is then maybe they run some

cross-contamination risk. So I advise you not to play on the torrents

- you obviously can't handle it.

> you apparently DON'Trealise there are virus that can infect

> systems JUST because they were accessed BY ANY PROGRAM or

> specifically when done BY anti-virus progs, oops a hidden

> secret there {NOT!!!!}.... . . .

 

It's always obvious when your tinfoil hat slips off your head.

> | I've downloaded lots of major apps from torrents (some that

> | take 5 DVD's to install, like Adobe Premier) and none have

> | tested positive for malware.

>

> REALLY, and how would you know that, remember you posted

> recently in here that you don't use anti-virus software...

 

[MEB girly mode on]

> teeeheee,,,,

 

That's right, I don't run AV software on my main desktop machine.

That doesn't mean I don't have access to, or periodically or

sporadically scan entire drives on other systems I have access to or

have set up for that purpose.

> Moreover, I'd place a bet that you've used pirated and

> potentially infected OSs to RUN the supposed anti-virus

> software

 

The organization I am associated with has actually bought many dozens

of OEM copies of Win-95, Win-98, and XP-pro over the past dozen years,

in addition to having about 1/2 dozen years worth of MSDN cd's, so I

am in no shortage of "legit" copies of MS software.

 

So basically you would lose your bet.

 

It is true that we did download a hacked version of Vista many months

ago for kicks and installed it on a scratch drive that has since been

recycled.

> Look, I realize you have an agenda,

 

Which is what? If it bugs your ass to hear me say that downloading or

using software without a license is no big deal, well that's tough.

But that's not an agenda.

> and are still attempting to establish yourself as a world

> expert...

 

You need therapy. You've got hangups and issues.

> but I warned you before, that ANY time you posted this

> crap that might affect the security of other users,

> I would "hit you up side da head wit a 2 X 4" until

> you learn to keep this junk out of THIS forum... you post

> in other forums, keep this crap out there ....

 

Captain MEB, savior of the universe.

 

You are so lame. It's quite funny actually, but sad too.

 

You keep swinging that 2x4 if it makes you feel important. Just try

not to hurt yourself swinging at the air.

[Guest MEB]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

 

 

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:473D0BD2.49E0B742@Guy.com...

| MEB wrote:

|

| > | So download multiple versions and check their files for

| > | similarities and differences.

| >

| > Uhuh, and you check them with/against what? Each other,

|

| Well, Mr. Clueless, when you check them against each other, and if

| there ARE differences, then you have reason to suspect them.

 

Uhuh, so you would suspect them of what?

 

|

| If there are no differences, then most likely, almost guaranteed they

| are the real thing. It would be very tricky to plant the same fake

| copy (of anything) on multiple torrents and have that as the ONLY

| version available for download.

 

Hmm, so let's see, you download several or a couple different torrents from

unknown sources and because they are the same then that means they are

Okay....

 

Perhaps you haven't been out on the net long enough to realize that the

SAME files and programs are constantly passed around the net... and that

the original one that everyone is passing around is or may be corrupt or

infected... so what does two illegally obtained copies of that same

file/torrent prove?

 

|

| > Scan them with your infected system, another bright response

|

| Again Mr. Stupid, you scan it with the system you're using to download

| it. I feel like I'm talking to a child here.

 

Uhm, that's the one you installed one of the torrent programs on right,,,

the one that is used to transfer other illegal files around with,,, the one

that has no firewall, no antivirus, and is being constantly accessed by

other computers while you're connected via the torrent program???

That system over which you have failed to ensure is NOT infected AND HAVE

NO CONTROL ....

 

|

| > Nothing to lose but perhaps a boot sector virus,

|

| Which when you slave the drive to a second (trusted) machine and scan

| it the boot-sector virus becomes plainly visible, in which case you

| fdisk and format the drive to get rid of the malware.

 

Uhuh, and that system is what, XP or VISTA, which has already accessed the

drive PRIOR to your scan ....

 

|

| > This is another of your completely worthless postings,,,

| > "quite a feat" takes nothing more than cabarc,

|

| And again if you compare multiple versions of the same cab files

| you'll discover whether or not any of them are suspect.

 

Uhm, suspect of what, you're claiming torrents are safe to download,,, you

posted the links didn't you ???

 

|

| > And here's the key to how openly stupid that part of your post

| > is:

|

| Oh my, I can't wait to read it

|

| > you HAVE downloaded stuff from MGDx and MSFN, and installed

| > files WHICH WERE MODIFIED IN EXACTLY THAT FASHION

|

| Yes, Mr. Moron, I have, but not before submitting the files to VT.

 

Uhuh, and that showed what, based upon what criteria???

 

|

| But in the case of a commercial distro like Win-98, the size of all

| cabs are listed by MS, and like I've said before, if I download it

| from 3 or 4 different torrents and they all compare exactly, then you

| tell me what the odds are that it's got malware?

 

Let's see, think a hacker can find that same info on Microsoft???

 

|

| Hey, tell you what.

|

| I'll download a few of them and I'll check them against the real

| thing, then I'll post back here and tell people which ones are good

| and which ones have been tampered with. That should make you happy -

| no?

 

Nah, we still know where and how to obtain legal copies... post that crap

in one of the proper forums for that stuff ...

 

|

| > | And once 98 has been installed and verified to work, then

| > | remove the drive and slave it to another system and scan

| > | it before using it.

| >

| > infect the other systems you may have

|

| Another piece of hyperbole courtesy of Mr. MEB. I guess if someone is

| as sloppy as your own thought-process is then maybe they run some

| cross-contamination risk. So I advise you not to play on the torrents

| - you obviously can't handle it.

 

Let's see, seems you already made some numbnuts comment like that before,,,

AND I already advised you that I have frequented those style of sharing

services .... seems I also already advised you that one need not engage in

illegal activity when doing so ...

 

|

| > you apparently DON'T realise there are virus that can infect

| > systems JUST because they were accessed BY ANY PROGRAM or

| > specifically when done BY anti-virus progs, oops a hidden

| > secret there {NOT!!!!}.... . . .

|

| It's always obvious when your tinfoil hat slips off your head.

 

TTTSTSTSTSTSSSKKSKSKSKSK,,,, hehehehehehe,,,, so let's see, now you're an

expert in viruses, Trojans, and the like ... what else are you going to

claim WITHOUT checking the facts...

 

|

| > | I've downloaded lots of major apps from torrents (some that

| > | take 5 DVD's to install, like Adobe Premier) and none have

| > | tested positive for malware.

 

 

Adobe products, Microsoft products,,, any others you're willing to publicly

admit to stealing ...

 

| >

| > REALLY, and how would you know that, remember you posted

| > recently in here that you don't use anti-virus software...

|

| [MEB girly mode on]

|

| > teeeheee,,,,

|

| That's right, I don't run AV software on my main desktop machine.

| That doesn't mean I don't have access to, or periodically or

| sporadically scan entire drives on other systems I have access to or

| have set up for that purpose.

 

Uhuh, so you're such a conscientious person, you ALWAYS follow a set

routine for those checks,,, with that illegal copy of the OS you have

right??

 

|

| > Moreover, I'd place a bet that you've used pirated and

| > potentially infected OSs to RUN the supposed anti-virus

| > software

|

| The organization I am associated with has actually bought many dozens

| of OEM copies of Win-95, Win-98, and XP-pro over the past dozen years,

| in addition to having about 1/2 dozen years worth of MSDN cd's, so I

| am in no shortage of "legit" copies of MS software.

|

| So basically you would lose your bet.

|

| It is true that we did download a hacked version of Vista many months

| ago for kicks and installed it on a scratch drive that has since been

| recycled.

 

No, actually I just got you to publicly admit to conspiracy to commit

illegal acts, engagement in criminal conspiracy, attempted distribution of

illegal software, and several other felonies and/or civilly prosecutable

activities...

 

Moreover, is that organization aware that they can also be charged in

conjunction with your illegal activities if done on or thorough their system

or service??? Are they also aware that, as you have readily admitted to

criminal activity, that you may be engaged in such at their place of

business? NOTE: you said "we".

 

|

| > Look, I realize you have an agenda,

|

| Which is what? If it bugs your ass to hear me say that downloading or

| using software without a license is no big deal, well that's tough.

| But that's not an agenda.

 

Nah, doesn't bug my ass,,, but I am a Peoples' Counsel,, would you expect

me to suggest you engage in criminal acts???

 

|

| > and are still attempting to establish yourself as a world

| > expert...

|

| You need therapy. You've got hangups and issues.

|

| > but I warned you before, that ANY time you posted this

| > crap that might affect the security of other users,

| > I would "hit you up side da head wit a 2 X 4" until

| > you learn to keep this junk out of THIS forum... you post

| > in other forums, keep this crap out there ....

|

| Captain MEB, savior of the universe.

|

| You are so lame. It's quite funny actually, but sad too.

|

| You keep swinging that 2x4 if it makes you feel important. Just try

| not to hurt yourself swinging at the air.

 

 

Actually, if you continue to publicly post and admit to this type of

criminal activity, it may be someone else swinging the 2x4, but it will look

more like steel bars.

 

Maurice Edward, Brahier

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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[Guest pieceofass@pussseeee.com]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:17:38 -0500, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote:

>You need therapy. You've got hangups and issues.

>

>

 

My 19 year old grandson is a freshman in collage and is studying to

become a psychologist. Maybe he can help !!!!

 

 

----

Meow

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

MEB wrote:

> | Well, Mr. Clueless, when you check them against each other, and

> | if there ARE differences, then you have reason to suspect them.

>

> Uhuh, so you would suspect them of what?

 

Doesn't matter *what* you dork. If they're different, then you have

grounds to suspect one of them (or all of them) are not legit.

> Hmm, so let's see, you download several or a couple different

> torrents from unknown sources

 

Torrent downloads are usually "unknown" sources, so what's your

point...

> and because they are the same then that means they are Okay....

 

And if you compare the size of the cabs against lists published by MS,

or that are available on the net, you have another layer of

verification.

> Perhaps you haven't been out on the net long enough to realize

> that the SAME files and programs are constantly passed around

> the net...

 

I guess I don't download from torrents as much as you do.

> ... so what does two illegally obtained copies of that same

> file/torrent prove?

 

It's not illegal to download via a torrent.

 

If you're downloading a malware-infested version of anything, then

technically you're not downloading the "real" thing, so there's no

violation of anything in that case.

 

So don't limit yourself to only 2 downloads. How about 4?

 

There were MILLIONS of win-98 CD's floating around during it's life,

so it's highly likely that there are dozens of unique and legit

versions being offered over torrent at any given time, vs the

situation you're describing for some other apps where perhaps only a

handful of people that got their hands on an actual retail copy have

gone on to offer it on a torrent.

> | Again Mr. Stupid, you scan it with the system you're using

> | to download it. I feel like I'm talking to a child here.

>

> Uhm, that's the one you installed one of the torrent programs on

> right,,,

 

Yes, and if I periodically remove the hard drive of the download

computer and slave it to a trusted computer for a complete malware

scan - what then Sherlock?

 

You're really grasping at straws here. Next you're going to say that

an infected torrent program is capable of inserting malware into ISO

images.

> | And again if you compare multiple versions of the same cab files

> | you'll discover whether or not any of them are suspect.

>

> Uhm, suspect of what, you're claiming torrents are safe to

> download,,,

 

You fool. You're the one claiming they're NOT safe - so I'm

suggesting ways to verify the legitimacy of what you download if you

have no prior knowledge of the size or checksums of what you are

downloading. And in the case of Win-98, there are lists that specify

the true size of the cabs.

 

> | > you HAVE downloaded stuff from MGDx and MSFN, and installed

> | > files WHICH WERE MODIFIED IN EXACTLY THAT FASHION

> |

> | Yes, Mr. Moron, I have, but not before submitting the files to VT.

>

> Uhuh, and that showed what

 

When did this become a conversation about the malware threat in

web-hosted support files from known sources? I thought we were

talking about the potential of malware in torrents of full install

CD's of various OS's and App suites.

> based upon what criteria???

 

I just said I make it a habbit of submitting downloaded stuff to VT.

The "criteria" would therefore be the detection rules contained in the

definition templates of the 2 or 3 dozen vendors operating on that

site.

> | I'll download a few of them and I'll check them against

> | the real thing,

>

> Nah, we still know where and how to obtain legal copies...

 

No, really, it's no bother. After all, this is obviously an important

issue for you, and for the benefit of others I will download several

copies of win-98 from different sources and binary-compare them

against the read CD and I will report back here my findings.

> I already advised you that I have frequented those style of

> sharing services

 

Do tell, MEB. Do tell.

> so let's see, now you're an expert in viruses, Trojans, and

> the like ...

 

Apparently you're the expert torrent downloader here. Why don't you

tell us what sort of sneaky malware you've found that can infect a

system simply by slaving a drive to another system?

 

Name the actual identity of a specific piece of malware.

> Adobe products, Microsoft products,,, any others you're willing

> to publicly admit to stealing ...

 

I've obtained a lot of stuff that frankly I don't even use, but

instead I install on systems owned by others (friends and family) and

frankly I'm not sure that they get a lot of use there either.

> Uhuh, so you're such a conscientious person, you ALWAYS follow a

> set routine for those checks,,,

 

When did this become an issue of what *I* do or don't do on a regular

basis when it comes to stuff I've obtained via torrents?

 

Your argument is that there is no way to verify the legitimacy of

stuff (like a Win-98 CD) that's been obtained via torrent. I've

posted to the contrary.

> with that illegal copy of the OS you have right??

 

If you're referring to the hacked Vista copy, no we didn't scan it

because it was being installed on a scratch drive on an isolated

computer that was going to be recycled anyways.

> | So basically you would lose your bet.

>

> No, actually I just got you to publicly admit to conspiracy to

> commit illegal acts,

 

It is not illegal to download. In some jurisdictions some

stake-holders believe it is possible to prosecute people for uploading

or making stuff available for upload. And those are civil

prosecutions or suits, not criminal.

> engagement in criminal conspiracy, attempted distribution of

> illegal software, and several other felonies and/or civilly

> prosecutable activities...

 

MEB, your attempts to scare me or others with inapplicable legal terms

is lame.

> Moreover, is that organization aware that they can also be

> charged in conjunction with your illegal activities if done

> on or thorough their system or service???

 

Why don't you call them or send them a letter and ask?

> Are they also aware that, as you have readily admitted to

> criminal activity, that you may be engaged in such at their

> place of business? NOTE: you said "we".

 

You know, I bet they'd be very interested. So please call them and

let them know.

> Actually, if you continue to publicly post and admit to this type

> of criminal activity, it may be someone else swinging the 2x4,

> but it will look more like steel bars.

 

LOL. Can you hear me laughing, MEB?

[Guest MEB]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

Thank you.

You have once again confirmed to the world exactly how willing to

potentially corrupt other individual's systems you are, as you apparently

engage in activities designed solely to make yourself feel important and

gain recognition.... to the potential detriment of others, with COMPLETE

lack of concern for them and the harm and damage you may cause.

 

To the world, I highly recommend you search for this entity 98Guy so you

may understand the complete lack of understanding this individual has for

computing, networking, legal matters, and other aspects...

 

I will also supply this caution:

There are government and other entities that will supply supposed or actual

addresses to illegal software. These types of activities are not entrapment

nor are they construed as such, as the individual makes the conscious

decision to engage in this activity of their own volition.

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

MEB wrote:

> You have once again confirmed to the world exactly how willing to

> potentially corrupt other individual's systems you are,

 

Some asked where/how to download Windows 98.

 

I responded.

 

You pointed out the dangers of downloading - which should be almost

self-evident for anyone that has enough knowledge or experience to

post to usenet.

 

I responded with additional precautions. You made a half-ass attempt

to ridicule those precautions.

 

As a final attempt to reinforce your agenda, you made outlandish

accusations about my motives as you do your best to dissuade others to

attempt to obtain Win-98 via torrent download.

 

An example:

> as you apparently engage in activities designed solely to

> make yourself feel important and gain recognition....

 

It is common knowledge that a wide variety of software is available to

download via torrent. Many may not know that a great deal of it is

malware-free. The wider the distribution of a given piece of desired

software, the more potential download sources there will be, and the

less likely it will contain malware.

 

Something else you fail to mention is that downloads are frequently

broken up and retrieved from multiple sources simultaneously. This

again makes it difficult for a single source to contribute a coherent

and workable malware infection to the finished download.

> to the potential detriment of others, with COMPLETE lack of

> concern for them and the harm and damage you may cause.

 

When people ask where they can download win-98 from, I provide an

answer.

 

If you have a problem with that, then take it up with those are are

doing the asking.

> To the world, I highly recommend you search for this entity

> 98Guy so you may understand

 

so that you may understand that I provide coherent and complete

answers when responding to questions. You provide FUD (fear,

uncertainty, and dread):

> I will also supply this caution:

> There are government and other entities that will supply

> supposed or actual addresses to illegal software. These

> types of activities are not entrapment nor are they construed

> as such, as the individual makes the conscious decision to

> engage in this activity of their own volition.

 

The above was fabricated by MEB as an attempt to frighten the would-be

reader into not obtaining desired software via download torrent. The

relavent authorities and stake-holders have historically only shown an

interest in the sources of such downloads - not in the downloaders

themselves.

 

Anyone interested in complete download anonymity (or internet

anonymity in general) shoud explore the use of TOR:

 

http://www.torproject.org/

[Guest MEB]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

I'll merely remind or direct everyone to review the $250,000.00 judgment

rendered last month [or was it the month before] related to these

activities... the 7 [or more, some may presently be sealed] new cases

brought by Microsoft, and it you care to search, the several dozen out of

court Settlements, and judgments done since the DRM [digital rights

management] in XP and VISTA were fully implemented, and the related Digital

Rights Laws erected internationally...

 

Then think carefully when someone offers to provide you with such

materials, offers to accept copyrighted materials for distribution for which

you have no license to distribute, and in particular, attempts to direct you

that this can be done anonymously after the erection of the Anti-Terrorism

Laws erected world wide.,,, moreover, does so in public forums known to be

monitored for such activities.

 

The only one who can protect you is you,,, you will make that decision, the

attorneys world wide are ready and willing to take your money.

 

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

MEB wrote:

> I'll merely remind or direct everyone to review the $250,000.00

> judgment rendered last month [or was it the month before] related

> to these activities...

 

I've just performed several searches using keywords such as

"Microsoft", "court", "judgement", and "piracy", but the only results

were typical for what you'd expect from the illegal Micro$oft monopoly

and it's constant battles with the States and the EU.

 

If you want to support your claim, I suggest you provide a link to the

supposed $250k judgement.

 

During the search, I found this interesting:

 

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/98106

 

Seems that in Europe, if you buy a PC that is pre-loaded with

Micro$oft software that you don't intend to use, you can demand a

refund for that software from the retailer or manufacturer.

> and it you care to search, the several dozen out of court

> Settlements, and judgments done since the DRM [digital rights

> management] in XP and VISTA were fully implemented, and the

> related Digital Rights Laws erected internationally...

 

Normally when one puts forth an argument, a URL is provided to help

support it. Is there any reason why you're not providing us with any?

[Guest Sunny]

Re: Download a full version of WIndwos 98 SE for free

 

 

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uuQZu4MKIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> I'll merely remind or direct everyone to review the $250,000.00 judgment

> rendered last month [or was it the month before] related to these

> activities... the 7 [or more, some may presently be sealed] new cases

> brought by Microsoft, and it you care to search, the several dozen out

> of

> court Settlements, and judgments done since the DRM [digital rights

> management] in XP and VISTA were fully implemented, and the related

> Digital

> Rights Laws erected internationally...

 

"Judgements" concerning Win98 ?

> Then think carefully when someone offers to provide you with such

> materials, offers to accept copyrighted materials for distribution for

> which

> you have no license to distribute, and in particular, attempts to direct

> you

> that this can be done anonymously after the erection of the

> Anti-Terrorism

> Laws erected world wide.,,, moreover, does so in public forums known to

> be

> monitored for such activities.

>

> The only one who can protect you is you,,, you will make that decision,

> the

> attorneys world wide are ready and willing to take your money.

 

BTW, If Microsoft objects, to the distribution of a product that they no

longer supply or support then up em.

IMHO