Guest Franc Zabkar Posted November 15, 2007 Posted November 15, 2007 If I go to View->Folder Options->File Types in Explorer, I see an entry for "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show". Under "file type details" I have Extension PPS, Opens with PPTVIEW. Choosing Edit->Edit I see that the "default extension for content type" is ".ppt" and the "application used to perform action" is ... C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\PowerPoint Viewer\pptview.exe /p "%1" The Properties for pptview.exe indicate a file version of 11.0.5703. I also have an earlier version of MS PP viewer (8.0) at ... C:\Program Files\PowerPoint Viewer\PPVIEW32.EXE My email client is Eudora. If I launch a .pps attachment, then I will experience the following strange file association behaviour. Eudora's "Open attachment with" option only gives a choice of PPVIEW32, not PPTVIEW as described above in Explorer's Folder Options. If I choose PPVIEW32 without ticking the "always open with" checkbox, the .pps file opens OK. If I tick the box, then I get "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc", which is the message one normally gets when using PPTVIEW. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Guest PCR Posted November 15, 2007 Posted November 15, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour Franc Zabkar wrote: | If I go to View->Folder Options->File Types in Explorer, I see an | entry for "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show". Under "file type details" | I have Extension PPS, Opens with PPTVIEW. Choosing Edit->Edit I see | that the "default extension for content type" is ".ppt" and the | "application used to perform action" is ... | | C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\PowerPoint Viewer\pptview.exe /p | "%1" | | The Properties for pptview.exe indicate a file version of 11.0.5703. I don't have Office installed or a "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" in Folder Options, File Types tab. HOWEVER, the above sounds fine to me! And the result of it should be that any .ppt file that you click in Explorer should open in PptView.exe. Can you verify definitively that it does? | I also have an earlier version of MS PP viewer (8.0) at ... | | C:\Program Files\PowerPoint Viewer\PPVIEW32.EXE And can you verify definitively it does not open in this one, when you click a .ppt in Explorer or in a Find Files list? PPVIEW32.EXE, you say, is for the file type .pps? Does it show up in the Folder Options, File Types list? | My email client is Eudora. If I launch a .pps attachment, then I will | experience the following strange file association behaviour. So, you are launching an attachment & not really just clicking a .ppt or a .pps? I think it is up to Eudora to pass it to the right program, then. Does Eudora have anything in its menus or in its help screens that seem to apply or mention it? (The Folder Options, File Types, list, I believe, will only apply to files you actually click in Explorer or in a Find Files list.) | Eudora's "Open attachment with" option only gives a choice of | PPVIEW32, not PPTVIEW as described above in Explorer's Folder Options. Looks like Eudora isn't getting the options from the list that comprises "Folder Options, Files Types"-- or surely it would have been offered! | If I choose PPVIEW32 without ticking the "always open with" checkbox, | the .pps file opens OK. The .pps file-- so? Why would you want Eudora to offer PptView.exe for that-- isn't it just for .ppt files? | If I tick the box, then I get "this version is | only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc", which is the message | one normally gets when using PPTVIEW. What program is giving that message? Weren't you in the middle of an Eudora requestor? Or did the requestor end & did something else open? Don't you have an About box to tell you what program Eudora may have passed the .pps file to? It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] "SubVersionNumber"=" A " "Version"="Windows 98" "VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update CD is run, & under certain version number complaint circumstances, the complaints may disappear by changing it back-- but I don't know it applies here! | - Franc Zabkar | -- | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest glee Posted November 16, 2007 Posted November 16, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:Olxqsq9JIHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > snip > It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] > "SubVersionNumber"=" A " > "Version"="Windows 98" > "VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" > > SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update CD is > run, & under certain version number complaint circumstances, the > complaints may disappear by changing it back-- but I don't know it > applies here! It could be relevant, at least to the part about the message saying "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc" It's certainly worth mentioning in this situation, IMHO. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted November 16, 2007 Posted November 16, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:55:49 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put finger to keyboard and composed: >Franc Zabkar wrote: >| If I go to View->Folder Options->File Types in Explorer, I see an >| entry for "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show". Under "file type details" >| I have Extension PPS, Opens with PPTVIEW. Choosing Edit->Edit I see >| that the "default extension for content type" is ".ppt" and the >| "application used to perform action" is ... >| >| C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\PowerPoint Viewer\pptview.exe /p >| "%1" >| >| The Properties for pptview.exe indicate a file version of 11.0.5703. > >I don't have Office installed or a "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" in >Folder Options, File Types tab. HOWEVER, the above sounds fine to me! >And the result of it should be that any .ppt file that you click in >Explorer should open in PptView.exe. Can you verify definitively that it >does? I get the same strange file association behaviour for .ppt files. >| I also have an earlier version of MS PP viewer (8.0) at ... >| >| C:\Program Files\PowerPoint Viewer\PPVIEW32.EXE > >And can you verify definitively it does not open in this one, when you >click a .ppt in Explorer or in a Find Files list? PPVIEW32.EXE, you say, >is for the file type .pps? Does it show up in the Folder Options, File >Types list? If I launch PPVIEW32.EXE, I am presented with a choice of .ppt, .pps, and .pot file types in the "file name" box. If I choose a .pps or .ppt file, then it launches OK (I don't have any .pot files). If I double-click a .pps or .ppt file in Explorer or in a Find Files list, then pptview.exe is launched instead and I get the error message. I can see that different PP versions are running by typing Ctrl-Alt-Del. The task name is either "Microsoft Office PowerPoint Viewer" (pptview.exe) or just "PowerPoint Viewer" (ppview32.exe). The actual file names can be seen in Wintop. >| My email client is Eudora. If I launch a .pps attachment, then I will >| experience the following strange file association behaviour. > >So, you are launching an attachment & not really just clicking a .ppt or >a .pps? I think it is up to Eudora to pass it to the right program, >then. Does Eudora have anything in its menus or in its help screens that >seem to apply or mention it? No, Eudora appears to hand it off to the OS, although it does have LaunchProtect which warns you that the attachment is an executable. In any case I have launched the same attachment by other means and reproduced the problem. >(The Folder Options, File Types, list, I believe, will only apply to >files you actually click in Explorer or in a Find Files list.) > >| Eudora's "Open attachment with" option only gives a choice of >| PPVIEW32, not PPTVIEW as described above in Explorer's Folder Options. > >Looks like Eudora isn't getting the options from the list that comprises >"Folder Options, Files Types"-- or surely it would have been offered! Explorer itself has the same problem, so it's not a Eudora issue. Sorry for the red herring. >| If I choose PPVIEW32 without ticking the "always open with" checkbox, >| the .pps file opens OK. > >The .pps file-- so? Why would you want Eudora to offer PptView.exe for >that-- isn't it just for .ppt files? PPT, PPS, and POT files appear to be Microsoft PowerPoint Presentations, Slide Shows, and Templates. These three options appear in Folder Options under the File Types tab. All are associated with pptview.exe. FWIW, the .ppt file type is the default extension for each of the above (Edit->Default Extension for content type), contrary to what is displayed in the "file type details" box. >| If I tick the box, then I get "this version is >| only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc", which is the message >| one normally gets when using PPTVIEW. > >What program is giving that message? PowerPoint Viewer. This is a known bug for Win98SE. The "fix" is to edit the SubVersionNumber key in the registry as you have indicated below. >Weren't you in the middle of an >Eudora requestor? Or did the requestor end & did something else open? >Don't you have an About box to tell you what program Eudora may have >passed the .pps file to? > >It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... > >[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] >"SubVersionNumber"=" A " >"Version"="Windows 98" >"VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" > >SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update CD is >run, & under certain version number complaint circumstances, the >complaints may disappear by changing it back-- but I don't know it >applies here! Mine is SubVersionNumber "B", but this is a different problem. My problem is in trying to understand why ticking or not ticking the "always open with" checkbox selects different versions of PowerPoint Viewer, even after specifying PPVIEW32.EXE in both cases. Anyway, below is what I found in the registry. It appears to me that MS broke my registry in the process of updating the viewer. Note the dual references to pptview and ppview32 (shell\open\command and shell\Show\command) under the same key. After probing the registry I went back to Explorer's Folder Options and found that the default action for .pps files was Show. If I chose the "open" action, then the "application used to perform action" was .... C:\PROGRA~1\POWERP~1\PPVIEW32.EXE "%1" .... which tallies with what I found below. It appears that ticking the "always open with" checkbox selects the default action, which in this case is Show, whereas leaving this box unchecked selects the "open" action. ==================================================================== REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.pps] "Content Type"="application/vnd.ms-powerpoint" @="PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11" ==================================================================== REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11] @="Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell] @="Show" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Show] @="&Show" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Show\command] @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Print] @="&Print" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Print\command] @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe /p \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\open] @="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\open\command] @="C:\\PROGRA~1\\POWERP~1\\PPVIEW32.EXE \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\DefaultIcon] @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe,3" ==================================================================== - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Guest PCR Posted November 17, 2007 Posted November 17, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour glee wrote: | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:Olxqsq9JIHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> snip |> It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... |> |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] |> "SubVersionNumber"=" A " |> "Version"="Windows 98" |> "VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" |> |> SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update CD is |> run, & under certain version number complaint circumstances, the |> complaints may disappear by changing it back-- but I don't know it |> applies here! | | It could be relevant, at least to the part about the message saying | "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc" | | It's certainly worth mentioning in this situation, IMHO. Thanks for the support. It certainly has the sound of it, but usually was reported to be an issue during installation of certain software, not during use of already installed software. I see Zabcar confirms he is a "B". So, I may continue to urge he try it, after fully digesting his full response (which already has been a 20 minute meal!). Thanks again. | -- | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest ... et al. Posted November 17, 2007 Posted November 17, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour PCR wrote: > glee wrote: > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > | news:Olxqsq9JIHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > |> snip > |> It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... > |> > |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] > |> "SubVersionNumber"=" A " > |> "Version"="Windows 98" > |> "VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" > |> > |> SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update CD is > |> run, & under certain version number complaint circumstances, the > |> complaints may disappear by changing it back-- but I don't know it > |> applies here! > | > | It could be relevant, at least to the part about the message saying > | "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc" > | > | It's certainly worth mentioning in this situation, IMHO. > > Thanks for the support. It certainly has the sound of it, but usually > was reported to be an issue during installation of certain software, not > during use of already installed software. I see Zabcar confirms he is a > "B". So, I may continue to urge he try it, after fully digesting his > full response (which already has been a 20 minute meal!). Thanks again. I'll help you out by pointing Franc to this post by 'mae': <news:uEx$dL$2GHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> ( find it via <http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en> ) Seems to be the same issue. -- Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
Guest PCR Posted November 17, 2007 Posted November 17, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour Franc Zabkar wrote: | On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:55:49 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put | finger to keyboard and composed: | |>Franc Zabkar wrote: |>| If I go to View->Folder Options->File Types in Explorer, I see an |>| entry for "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show". Under "file type |>| details" I have Extension PPS, Opens with PPTVIEW. Choosing |>| Edit->Edit I see that the "default extension for content type" is |>| ".ppt" and the "application used to perform action" is ... |>| |>| C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\PowerPoint Viewer\pptview.exe /p |>| "%1" |>| |>| The Properties for pptview.exe indicate a file version of 11.0.5703. |> |>I don't have Office installed or a "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" |>in Folder Options, File Types tab. HOWEVER, the above sounds fine to |>me! And the result of it should be that any .ppt file that you click |>in Explorer should open in PptView.exe. Can you verify definitively |>that it does? | | I get the same strange file association behaviour for .ppt files. Uhuh. |>| I also have an earlier version of MS PP viewer (8.0) at ... |>| |>| C:\Program Files\PowerPoint Viewer\PPVIEW32.EXE |> |>And can you verify definitively it does not open in this one, when you |>click a .ppt in Explorer or in a Find Files list? PPVIEW32.EXE, you |>say, is for the file type .pps? Does it show up in the Folder |>Options, File Types list? | | If I launch PPVIEW32.EXE, I am presented with a choice of .ppt, .pps, | and .pot file types in the "file name" box. If I choose a .pps or .ppt | file, then it launches OK (I don't have any .pot files). I see. So, PPVIEW32.EXE can be used for all 3 of those. Hmm. What about PptView.exe? What happens when you launch that? Does it also offer all three file types? | If I | double-click a .pps or .ppt file in Explorer or in a Find Files list, | then pptview.exe is launched instead and I get the error message. Uhuh. Suppose you R-Clk the file, what shows up as the options-- Open, Show, & Print? Which one is highlighted? The highlighted one is the one that would happen when the file is D-Clkd. It is the default action that is selected/highlighted in the Actions window for that file type in its Edit File Type requestor of the Folder Options, File Types tab. | I can see that different PP versions are running by typing | Ctrl-Alt-Del. The task name is either "Microsoft Office PowerPoint | Viewer" (pptview.exe) or just "PowerPoint Viewer" (ppview32.exe). The | actual file names can be seen in Wintop. That is definitive, then, as far as knowing which is running. Also, both of them claim to be a viewer. So, you may be right that one is an update to the other & is meant to totally replace it. Or, one may be the version that comes with MS Office, & the other may be available for those who don't have Office. |>| My email client is Eudora. If I launch a .pps attachment, then I |>| will experience the following strange file association behaviour. |> |>So, you are launching an attachment & not really just clicking a .ppt |>or a .pps? I think it is up to Eudora to pass it to the right program, |>then. Does Eudora have anything in its menus or in its help screens |>that seem to apply or mention it? | | No, Eudora appears to hand it off to the OS, although it does have | LaunchProtect which warns you that the attachment is an executable. In | any case I have launched the same attachment by other means and | reproduced the problem. Hmm. So... Eudora was through opening the attachment & passed the file to Windows? Then, Windows offered the Open With requestor? That normally isn't done when an action for it is already entered in Folder Options, File Types tab! And this happens with both a .pps & a .ppt? Sheesh! |>(The Folder Options, File Types, list, I believe, will only apply to |>files you actually click in Explorer or in a Find Files list.) |> |>| Eudora's "Open attachment with" option only gives a choice of |>| PPVIEW32, not PPTVIEW as described above in Explorer's Folder |>| Options. |> |>Looks like Eudora isn't getting the options from the list that |>comprises "Folder Options, Files Types"-- or surely it would have |>been offered! | | Explorer itself has the same problem, so it's not a Eudora issue. | Sorry for the red herring. OK. I guess it is Windows's Open With requestor that is at fault. |>| If I choose PPVIEW32 without ticking the "always open with" |>| checkbox, the .pps file opens OK. |> |>The .pps file-- so? Why would you want Eudora to offer PptView.exe for |>that-- isn't it just for .ppt files? | | PPT, PPS, and POT files appear to be Microsoft PowerPoint | Presentations, Slide Shows, and Templates. These three options appear | in Folder Options under the File Types tab. All are associated with | pptview.exe. Hmm. (a) Do those files types each appear in the "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" entry? (I guess they do, going by that Registry export.) (b) And, are you sure that one is for the Office version of Power Point? (I think it is, going by mostly pptview shows up in the Registry.) © Do the file types also appear separately, for instance in an entry named PPS File, PPT File, etc.? (I think they probably don't, going by PPVIEW32 showed up in that export of the Power Point entry.) I know that the separate one(s) could result from opening a file using the Windows Open With requestor while checking the "Always use..." box. But the Open With box isn't normally offered when an association already exists. It will be offered in that case only when Shift is held while R-Clkng the file. Then, it can be used to change the association-- but I wouldn't want to use it in this case of complex associations such as Power Point has. It should be used only for simple ones, I think, that only have the open action. So... look for & remove the separate ones in the File Types tab. Then, maybe un/re-install Power Point-- the one that came with Office. Does Office have a repair function? You may also need to uninstall the other version of Power Point that you seem to have as well. | FWIW, the .ppt file type is the default extension for | each of the above (Edit->Default Extension for content type), contrary | to what is displayed in the "file type details" box. That could be normal. I don't have any Power Point installed to compare it with, though. |>| If I tick the box, then I get "this version is |>| only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc", which is the message |>| one normally gets when using PPTVIEW. |> |>What program is giving that message? | | PowerPoint Viewer. This is a known bug for Win98SE. The "fix" is to | edit the SubVersionNumber key in the registry as you have indicated | below. Right. It was good of them to give us that Security Update CD, though. |>Weren't you in the middle of an |>Eudora requestor? Or did the requestor end & did something else open? |>Don't you have an About box to tell you what program Eudora may have |>passed the .pps file to? |> |>It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... |> |>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] |>"SubVersionNumber"=" A " |>"Version"="Windows 98" |>"VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" |> |>SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update CD is |>run, & under certain version number complaint circumstances, the |>complaints may disappear by changing it back-- but I don't know it |>applies here! | | Mine is SubVersionNumber "B", but this is a different problem. I still think you should try reverting to an " A ", because that error message is so similar. Be sure to include the space before & after the letter. Glee agrees it's worth a try for this part of the problem. If the error message goes away, maybe try " B " too, with spaces-- I don't recall whether anyone ever tried that. | My | problem is in trying to understand why ticking or not ticking the | "always open with" checkbox selects different versions of PowerPoint | Viewer, even after specifying PPVIEW32.EXE in both cases. I don't think one should be trying that in the case of complex associations that have Actions other than just Open. | Anyway, below is what I found in the registry. It appears to me that | MS broke my registry in the process of updating the viewer. Note the | dual references to pptview and ppview32 (shell\open\command and | shell\Show\command) under the same key. It might also be that it got wrecked using Open With on a complex one, I think. Maybe it doesn't create separate entries, but just goes into the Power Point entry & wrecks it. (I don't know.) | After probing the registry I went back to Explorer's Folder Options | and found that the default action for .pps files was Show. So, this one would be highlighted in the R-Clk context menu for .pps files in Explorer. If you D-Clk that action in the Folder Options window, I guess pptview.exe is the program that performs the action, going by what I see in your Registry. | If I chose | the "open" action, then the "application used to perform action" was | ... | | C:\PROGRA~1\POWERP~1\PPVIEW32.EXE "%1" | | ... which tallies with what I found below. I agree. It could be the cure is as simple as changing PPVIEW32.EXE to pptview.exe like all the others. (But I don't really know.) | It appears that ticking the "always open with" checkbox selects the | default action, which in this case is Show, whereas leaving this box | unchecked selects the "open" action. I don't know how to test the truth of that without wrecking my own stuff. | ==================================================================== | REGEDIT4 | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.pps] | "Content Type"="application/vnd.ms-powerpoint" | @="PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11" | ==================================================================== | | REGEDIT4 | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11] | @="Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell] | @="Show" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Show] | @="&Show" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Show\command] | @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe | \"%1\"" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Print] | @="&Print" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Print\command] | @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe | /p \"%1\"" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\open] | @="" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\open\command] | @="C:\\PROGRA~1\\POWERP~1\\PPVIEW32.EXE \"%1\"" | | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\DefaultIcon] | @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint | Viewer\\pptview.exe,3" | ==================================================================== | | - Franc Zabkar | -- | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted November 17, 2007 Posted November 17, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour .... et al. wrote: | PCR wrote: | |> glee wrote: |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message |> | news:Olxqsq9JIHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> |> snip |> |> It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... |> |> |> |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] |> |> "SubVersionNumber"=" A " |> |> "Version"="Windows 98" |> |> "VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" |> |> |> |> SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update |> |> CD is run, & under certain version number complaint |> |> circumstances, the complaints may disappear by changing it back-- |> |> but I don't know it applies here! |> | |> | It could be relevant, at least to the part about the message saying |> | "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc" |> | |> | It's certainly worth mentioning in this situation, IMHO. |> |> Thanks for the support. It certainly has the sound of it, but usually |> was reported to be an issue during installation of certain software, |> not during use of already installed software. I see Zabcar confirms |> he is a "B". So, I may continue to urge he try it, after fully |> digesting his full response (which already has been a 20 minute |> meal!). Thanks again. | | I'll help you out by pointing Franc to this post by 'mae': | <news:uEx$dL$2GHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> | ( find it via <http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en> ) | Seems to be the same issue. Thanks. I do dimly recall that. | -- | Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. | | Please followup in the newsgroup. | E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted November 17, 2007 Posted November 17, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:04:27 +0100, "... et al." <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed: >PCR wrote: > >> glee wrote: >> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message >> | news:Olxqsq9JIHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> |> snip >> |> It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... >> |> >> |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] >> |> "SubVersionNumber"=" A " >> |> "Version"="Windows 98" >> |> "VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" >> |> >> |> SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update CD is >> |> run, & under certain version number complaint circumstances, the >> |> complaints may disappear by changing it back-- but I don't know it >> |> applies here! >> | >> | It could be relevant, at least to the part about the message saying >> | "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc" >> | >> | It's certainly worth mentioning in this situation, IMHO. >> >> Thanks for the support. It certainly has the sound of it, but usually >> was reported to be an issue during installation of certain software, not >> during use of already installed software. I see Zabcar confirms he is a >> "B". So, I may continue to urge he try it, after fully digesting his >> full response (which already has been a 20 minute meal!). Thanks again. > >I'll help you out by pointing Franc to this post by 'mae': ><news:uEx$dL$2GHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >( find it via <http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en> ) >Seems to be the same issue. I am aware of that issue. In fact I have posted the same link in the past. The actual problem is that a different version of PP viewer is launched depending on whether the "always open with" checkbox is ticked or not. The abovementioned bug merely serves to alert me that this is happening. In the absence of the bug I would be none the wiser. To [non-destructively] demonstrate the problem, ie that a particular file type can be associated with two different applications, create a text file named blahblah.jnk. R-click this file and select "Open with". Choose Notepad and tick the "Always open with" checkbox. Now close Notepad and choose Folder Options in Explorer. Under File Types select "JNK File" and choose Edit. The default and only action will be "open" and the "Application used to perform action" will be ... C:\WIN98SE\NOTEPAD.EXE "%1" Create a New Action named "edit" and choose "calc.exe", say, as the "Application used to perform action". Now select the Edit action and Set Default. Click Close->Close to save your changes. Now go to Explorer and double-click blahblah.jnk. This launches Notepad. Alternatively, highlight blahblah.jnk, hold down the shift key, r-click the file and select "open with". Leave the "always open with" checkbox unticked and choose Notepad. This results in Notepad being launched. Now repeat the above (ie select Notepad) but tick the checkbox. In this case Calculator is launched instead of Notepad. To return your machine to its original state, go to Folder Options, select the JNK file type, and Remove it. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Guest PCR Posted November 18, 2007 Posted November 18, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour Franc Zabkar wrote: | On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:04:27 +0100, "... et al." | <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed: | |>PCR wrote: |> |>> glee wrote: |>> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message |>> | news:Olxqsq9JIHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |>> |> snip |>> |> It probably doesn't mean anything, but what shows up at... |>> |> |>> |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] |>> |> "SubVersionNumber"=" A " |>> |> "Version"="Windows 98" |>> |> "VersionNumber"="4.10.2222" |>> |> |>> |> SubVersionNumber will change to a "B" after the Security Update |>> |> CD is run, & under certain version number complaint |>> |> circumstances, the complaints may disappear by changing it |>> |> back-- but I don't know it applies here! |>> | |>> | It could be relevant, at least to the part about the message |>> | saying "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, |>> | etc" |>> | |>> | It's certainly worth mentioning in this situation, IMHO. |>> |>> Thanks for the support. It certainly has the sound of it, but |>> usually was reported to be an issue during installation of certain |>> software, not during use of already installed software. I see |>> Zabcar confirms he is a "B". So, I may continue to urge he try it, |>> after fully digesting his full response (which already has been a |>> 20 minute meal!). Thanks again. |> |>I'll help you out by pointing Franc to this post by 'mae': |><news:uEx$dL$2GHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> |>( find it via <http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en> ) |>Seems to be the same issue. | | I am aware of that issue. In fact I have posted the same link in the | past. | | The actual problem is that a different version of PP viewer is | launched depending on whether the "always open with" checkbox is | ticked or not. The abovementioned bug merely serves to alert me that | this is happening. In the absence of the bug I would be none the | wiser. I am unconvinced! But let me think a bit. You say... (a) PPView32.EXE is the earlier (or non-Office) version, named "PowerPoint Viewer". (b) PPTView.exe is the later version, named "Microsoft Office PowerPoint Viewer". © PPView32.EXE has the Open action, at Folder Options, File Types tab, for "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show". (d) PPTView.exe has the Show action, & is the default action. (e) The Show option is the one that executes when you get the error : "this version is only supported on Win98SE, Win ME, Win2K, etc". Therefore, it could well be you need to revert to " A " in order to get PPTView.exe to work-- if that's the one you want to use. What happens when you launch it directly? | To [non-destructively] demonstrate the problem, ie that a particular | file type can be associated with two different applications, create a | text file named blahblah.jnk. R-click this file and select "Open | with". Choose Notepad and tick the "Always open with" checkbox. Now | close Notepad and choose Folder Options in Explorer. Under File Types | select "JNK File" and choose Edit. The default and only action will be | "open" and the "Application used to perform action" will be ... | | C:\WIN98SE\NOTEPAD.EXE "%1" Right. | Create a New Action named "edit" and choose "calc.exe", say, as the | "Application used to perform action". Now select the Edit action and | Set Default. Click Close->Close to save your changes. | | Now go to Explorer and double-click blahblah.jnk. This launches | Notepad. I predict Calc.exe will launch, because it is set as the default per your instructions. Aha! Indeed it was Calc.exe! Also, I can see Edit is highlighted in an .ago's R-Clk Context Menu in Explorer! (Open still works fine, if selected from the Context Menu.) | Alternatively, highlight blahblah.jnk, hold down the shift key, | r-click the file and select "open with". Leave the "always open with" | checkbox unticked and choose Notepad. This results in Notepad being | launched. Correct! | Now repeat the above (ie select Notepad) but tick the | checkbox. In this case Calculator is launched instead of Notepad. YEP-- you were right about that! It's weird enough, but... it is as you said-- checking "Always use..." cause the default action to launch! By the way, when done selecting "ashSimpl.exe", instead of Notepad, still it was Calc.exe that executed-- BUT the following ended up in the "Application used to perform" the Open Action... "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashSimpl.exe" "%1" | To return your machine to its original state, go to Folder Options, | select the JNK file type, and Remove it. OK. That was a weird, but interesting experience. Good find. | - Franc Zabkar | -- | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest ... et al. Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour Franc Zabkar wrote: > > I am aware of that issue. In fact I have posted the same link in the > past. /That/ issue being a bug ms PowerPoint 11 Viewer has after the ms Win98SE OS has been updated and given a new different SubVersion(Number)String. > The actual problem is that a different version of PP viewer is > launched depending on whether the "always open with" checkbox is > ticked or not. The abovementioned bug merely serves to alert me that > this is happening. In the absence of the bug I would be none the > wiser. Ok, but it was perhaps unfortunate that you then also used that as an example for something that you show is a general quirk for all open-actions as described below .. because at least i misunderstood what you were trying to describe. > To [non-destructively] demonstrate the problem, ie that a particular > file type can be associated with two different applications, create a > text file named blahblah.jnk. R-click this file and select "Open > with". Choose Notepad and tick the "Always open with" checkbox. Now > close Notepad and choose Folder Options in Explorer. Under File Types > select "JNK File" and choose Edit. The default and only action will be > "open" and the "Application used to perform action" will be ... > > C:\WIN98SE\NOTEPAD.EXE "%1" > > Create a New Action named "edit" and choose "calc.exe", say, as the > "Application used to perform action". Now select the Edit action and > Set Default. Click Close->Close to save your changes. > > Now go to Explorer and double-click blahblah.jnk. This launches > Notepad. I think you made a typing-error here because i, like PCR, see the expected, that what is set as the default action happens ( In this case [Calc.exe] opens ). But now comes the interesting part .. > > Alternatively, highlight blahblah.jnk, hold down the shift key, > r-click the file and select "open with". Leave the "always open with" > checkbox unticked and choose Notepad. This results in Notepad being > launched. Now repeat the above (ie select Notepad) but tick the > checkbox. In this case Calculator is launched instead of Notepad. At first .. WTF!? 1) I ask Win98 to open filetype .jnk with any nondefault application, and it obeys. 2a) If i ask the same but at the same time also requests that it 'Always use this program to open this file'(-type), it disobeys me!. My thinking; It seems Win98SE plainly forgets that it is asked to *Open* something and falls back and performs it's default action on the file. A bug!, we demand a fix, a patch, an update, ... ¿right? 2b) However i found that it does change the (nondefault) 'Open'-action to the application selected, so that that is used if you right-click and choose the non-default 'Open'-item on the context-menu after this. One can see this if one use a different 3rd application to select when also requesting 'Always use this program to *open* ...' So perhaps they can get away with calling this a feature, a way to change the application to perform the 'open'-action, even if what happens when one changes it is unexpected and unwanted. Perhaps. This made me think of the following. If 'Edit' is the default action, and we right-click to the context menu .. should the extra item we get if we also hold down the [shift] key really be 'Open with...' or should it perhaps be 'Edit with...' instead? > > To return your machine to its original state, go to Folder Options, > select the JNK file type, and Remove it. -- Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
Guest Robert Baer Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour .... et al. wrote: > Franc Zabkar wrote: > >> >> I am aware of that issue. In fact I have posted the same link in the >> past. > > > /That/ issue being a bug ms PowerPoint 11 Viewer has after the ms > Win98SE OS has been updated and given a new different > SubVersion(Number)String. > >> The actual problem is that a different version of PP viewer is >> launched depending on whether the "always open with" checkbox is >> ticked or not. The abovementioned bug merely serves to alert me that >> this is happening. In the absence of the bug I would be none the >> wiser. > > > Ok, but it was perhaps unfortunate that you then also used that as an > example for something that you show is a general quirk for all > open-actions as described below .. because at least i misunderstood what > you were trying to describe. > >> To [non-destructively] demonstrate the problem, ie that a particular >> file type can be associated with two different applications, create a >> text file named blahblah.jnk. R-click this file and select "Open >> with". Choose Notepad and tick the "Always open with" checkbox. Now >> close Notepad and choose Folder Options in Explorer. Under File Types >> select "JNK File" and choose Edit. The default and only action will be >> "open" and the "Application used to perform action" will be ... >> >> C:\WIN98SE\NOTEPAD.EXE "%1" >> >> Create a New Action named "edit" and choose "calc.exe", say, as the >> "Application used to perform action". Now select the Edit action and >> Set Default. Click Close->Close to save your changes. >> >> Now go to Explorer and double-click blahblah.jnk. This launches >> Notepad. > > > I think you made a typing-error here because i, like PCR, see the > expected, that what is set as the default action happens ( In this case > [Calc.exe] opens ). > > But now comes the interesting part .. > >> >> Alternatively, highlight blahblah.jnk, hold down the shift key, >> r-click the file and select "open with". Leave the "always open with" >> checkbox unticked and choose Notepad. This results in Notepad being >> launched. Now repeat the above (ie select Notepad) but tick the >> checkbox. In this case Calculator is launched instead of Notepad. > > > At first .. WTF!? > 1) I ask Win98 to open filetype .jnk with any nondefault application, > and it obeys. > 2a) If i ask the same but at the same time also requests that it 'Always > use this program to open this file'(-type), it disobeys me!. > My thinking; It seems Win98SE plainly forgets that it is asked to *Open* > something and falls back and performs it's default action on the file. > > A bug!, we demand a fix, a patch, an update, ... ¿right? > > 2b) However i found that it does change the (nondefault) 'Open'-action > to the application selected, so that that is used if you right-click and > choose the non-default 'Open'-item on the context-menu after this. One > can see this if one use a different 3rd application to select when also > requesting 'Always use this program to *open* ...' > > So perhaps they can get away with calling this a feature, a way to > change the application to perform the 'open'-action, even if what > happens when one changes it is unexpected and unwanted. Perhaps. > > This made me think of the following. If 'Edit' is the default action, > and we right-click to the context menu .. should the extra item we get > if we also hold down the [shift] key really be 'Open with...' or should > it perhaps be 'Edit with...' instead? > >> >> To return your machine to its original state, go to Folder Options, >> select the JNK file type, and Remove it. > > > WHAT???????????? In Win98SE, if I right-click on any file listed, i have *NEVER* seen "Open with.." . However, i always see it in Win2K.
Guest glee Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message news:13k7gsk6npe7m11@corp.supernews.com... > ... et al. wrote: > >> Franc Zabkar wrote: >> snip >> This made me think of the following. If 'Edit' is the default action, and we >> right-click to the context menu .. should the extra item we get if we also hold >> down the [shift] key really be 'Open with...' or should it perhaps be 'Edit >> with...' instead? >> >>> >>> To return your machine to its original state, go to Folder Options, >>> select the JNK file type, and Remove it. >> > WHAT???????????? > In Win98SE, if I right-click on any file listed, i have *NEVER* seen "Open > with.." . > However, i always see it in Win2K. Read more carefully what Franc wrote. First, select (highlight) the file, then hold down the SHIFT key *while* right-clicking the selected file, and Open With will be on the context menu. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
Guest PCR Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour .... et al. wrote: | Franc Zabkar wrote: ....snip |> To [non-destructively] demonstrate the problem, ie that a particular |> file type can be associated with two different applications, create a |> text file named blahblah.jnk. R-click this file and select "Open |> with". Choose Notepad and tick the "Always open with" checkbox. Now |> close Notepad and choose Folder Options in Explorer. Under File Types |> select "JNK File" and choose Edit. The default and only action will |> be "open" and the "Application used to perform action" will be ... |> |> C:\WIN98SE\NOTEPAD.EXE "%1" |> |> Create a New Action named "edit" and choose "calc.exe", say, as the |> "Application used to perform action". Now select the Edit action and |> Set Default. Click Close->Close to save your changes. |> |> Now go to Explorer and double-click blahblah.jnk. This launches |> Notepad. | | I think you made a typing-error here because i, like PCR, see the | expected, that what is set as the default action happens ( In | this case [Calc.exe] opens ). | | But now comes the interesting part .. | |> |> Alternatively, highlight blahblah.jnk, hold down the shift key, |> r-click the file and select "open with". Leave the "always open with" |> checkbox unticked and choose Notepad. This results in Notepad being |> launched. Now repeat the above (ie select Notepad) but tick the |> checkbox. In this case Calculator is launched instead of Notepad. | | At first .. WTF!? | 1) I ask Win98 to open filetype .jnk with any nondefault | application, and it obeys. | 2a) If i ask the same but at the same time also requests that it | 'Always use this program to open this file'(-type), it disobeys me!. | My thinking; It seems Win98SE plainly forgets that it is asked to | *Open* something and falls back and performs it's default action | on the file. | | A bug!, we demand a fix, a patch, an update, ... ¿right? Yep. That looks like a bug to me! I can't think of any possible reason in the world it should do the default action in this circumstance! | 2b) However i found that it does change the (nondefault) | 'Open'-action to the application selected, so that that is used | if you right-click and choose the non-default 'Open'-item on the | context-menu after this. Right. That part DOES make sense, & it is what I was trying to say when I said "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashSimpl.exe" "%1" ended up in mine. It is what Open With is supposed to do. It also is good that Open With seems to be able to go into a complex association & change just its open action, instead of creating a new PPS File entry, as shown in Zabcar's "Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" association... REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11] @="Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell] @="Show" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Show] @="&Show" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Show\command] @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Print] @="&Print" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\Print\command] @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe /p \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\open] @="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\shell\open\command] @="C:\\PROGRA~1\\POWERP~1\\PPVIEW32.EXE \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PowerPointViewer.SlideShow.11\DefaultIcon] @="C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\PowerPoint Viewer\\pptview.exe,3" | One can see this if one use a different | 3rd application to select when also requesting 'Always use this | program to *open* ...' | | So perhaps they can get away with calling this a feature, a way | to change the application to perform the 'open'-action, even if | what happens when one changes it is unexpected and unwanted. Perhaps. No! It's too confusing to be a feature! | This made me think of the following. If 'Edit' is the default | action, and we right-click to the context menu .. should the | extra item we get if we also hold down the [shift] key really be | 'Open with...' or should it perhaps be 'Edit with...' instead? That WOULD also be a way for it all to make sense-- yep! |> |> To return your machine to its original state, go to Folder Options, |> select the JNK file type, and Remove it. | | | -- | Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. | | Please followup in the newsgroup. | E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest ... et al. Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour PCR wrote: > ... et al. wrote: > | 2b) However i found that it does change the (nondefault) > | 'Open'-action to the application selected, so that that is used > | if you right-click and choose the non-default 'Open'-item on the > | context-menu after this. > > Right. That part DOES make sense, & it is what I was trying to say when > I said "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashSimpl.exe" "%1" ended > up in mine. Ah indeed .. i now understand that you had seen and posted this already. I change my post to a 'Me too'-followup to yours. -- Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
Guest Robert Baer Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour glee wrote: > "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message > news:13k7gsk6npe7m11@corp.supernews.com... > >> ... et al. wrote: >> >>> Franc Zabkar wrote: >>> snip >>> This made me think of the following. If 'Edit' is the default action, >>> and we right-click to the context menu .. should the extra item we >>> get if we also hold down the [shift] key really be 'Open with...' or >>> should it perhaps be 'Edit with...' instead? >>> >>>> >>>> To return your machine to its original state, go to Folder Options, >>>> select the JNK file type, and Remove it. >>> >>> >> WHAT???????????? >> In Win98SE, if I right-click on any file listed, i have *NEVER* seen >> "Open with.." . >> However, i always see it in Win2K. > > > Read more carefully what Franc wrote. First, select (highlight) the > file, then hold down the SHIFT key *while* right-clicking the selected > file, and Open With will be on the context menu. OOOOH! *THANKS* !!!
Guest PCR Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour .... et al. wrote: | PCR wrote: | |> ... et al. wrote: | |> | 2b) However i found that it does change the (nondefault) |> | 'Open'-action to the application selected, so that that is used |> | if you right-click and choose the non-default 'Open'-item on the |> | context-menu after this. |> |> Right. That part DOES make sense, & it is what I was trying to say |> when I said "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashSimpl.exe" |> "%1" ended up in mine. | | Ah indeed .. i now understand that you had seen and posted this | already. I change my post to a 'Me too'-followup to yours. OK. It's always good to see a confirmation of these phenomena, anyhow. | -- | Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. | | Please followup in the newsgroup. | E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest glee Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Re: PowerPoint viewer versions - strange file association behaviour "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message news:13kca3kldaed72f@corp.supernews.com... > glee wrote: > >> "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message >> news:13k7gsk6npe7m11@corp.supernews.com... >> >>> ... et al. wrote: >>>> snip >>>> This made me think of the following. If 'Edit' is the default action, and we >>>> right-click to the context menu .. should the extra item we get if we also hold >>>> down the [shift] key really be 'Open with...' or should it perhaps be 'Edit >>>> with...' instead? >>>> >>>> >>> WHAT???????????? >>> In Win98SE, if I right-click on any file listed, i have *NEVER* seen "Open >>> with.." . >>> However, i always see it in Win2K. >> >> >> Read more carefully what Franc wrote. First, select (highlight) the file, then >> hold down the SHIFT key *while* right-clicking the selected file, and Open With >> will be on the context menu. > OOOOH! > *THANKS* !!! :-) Magic! BTW, it look like it was et al. who posted that, not Franc. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
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