Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD

[Guest mikerossell@msn.com]

- PROBLEM - started when I replaced the master IDE HD from an 80gig HD to a

200gb. Used an External USB HD kit + Seagate Maxblast-5 [uSB support] for

Cloning.

 

- PC SETUP INFO - Dual boot setup, 2 HDs - Server O/S on 2nd HD. On the

1st HD [the cloned one] resides a small DOS boot partition where the boot.ini

is located and 1 install of Win XP Pro & on the 2nd HD is another Win XP Pro

OS and Server 2003 on different partitions.

 

The 2 Win XPs boot and shutdown fine. Serv 2003 also boots fine but cannot

shutdown.

 

- Current Problems:

- Windows Updates requiring reboots may not be getting installed.

- Recently, after hitting the reset button when shutting the server, the Win

XP on the 2nd HD crashed for the first time after years [blue screen] and

continued crashing until I did a -Last known good config fixed and it's been

fine for over a week.

 

- ATTEMPTED FIXES - all Failed

- Chkdsk DOS boot partition, Server - no errors

- Recovery Console - Fix MBR, Fixboot

- recorded all paritions + drive letters before & after cloning, changed all

Drive letters after cloning to previous settings.

- checked all Boot.ini entries

- enabled memory.dmp - no file created

- Dr. Watson log - no information

- Event log - nothing

- installed User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

 

Web searches + Microsoft support - zilch???

 

Any ideas???

 

Michael

 

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[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD

 

 

"mikerossell@msn.com" <mikerossell@msn.com@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

in message news:660AF3E3-AE58-4692-A6B1-8B2C2372CD6A@microsoft.com...

>- PROBLEM - started when I replaced the master IDE HD from an 80gig HD to

>a

> 200gb. Used an External USB HD kit + Seagate Maxblast-5 [uSB support] for

> Cloning.

>

> - PC SETUP INFO - Dual boot setup, 2 HDs - Server O/S on 2nd HD. On the

> 1st HD [the cloned one] resides a small DOS boot partition where the

> boot.ini

> is located and 1 install of Win XP Pro & on the 2nd HD is another Win XP

> Pro

> OS and Server 2003 on different partitions.

>

> The 2 Win XPs boot and shutdown fine. Serv 2003 also boots fine but

> cannot

> shutdown.

>

> - Current Problems:

> - Windows Updates requiring reboots may not be getting installed.

> - Recently, after hitting the reset button when shutting the server, the

> Win

> XP on the 2nd HD crashed for the first time after years [blue screen] and

> continued crashing until I did a -Last known good config fixed and it's

> been

> fine for over a week.

>

> - ATTEMPTED FIXES - all Failed

> - Chkdsk DOS boot partition, Server - no errors

> - Recovery Console - Fix MBR, Fixboot

> - recorded all paritions + drive letters before & after cloning, changed

> all

> Drive letters after cloning to previous settings.

> - checked all Boot.ini entries

> - enabled memory.dmp - no file created

> - Dr. Watson log - no information

> - Event log - nothing

> - installed User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

>

> Web searches + Microsoft support - zilch???

>

> Any ideas???

>

> Michael

 

Some questions:

- How are you trying to shut down the server? Via the

Start Menu or with shutdown.exe?

- What happens when you try?

- What happens when you restore the original 80 GByte disk?

- What happens when you boot the server with a Windows boot disk?

[Guest mikerossell@msn.com]

Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD - *Reply to Pegasus

 

Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD - *Reply to Pegasus

 

Reply to your questions:

 

1. - How are you trying to shut down the server? Via the Start Menu or with

shutdown.exe?

- Answer – have tried all methods, but did a CMD prompt Shutdown –s to check

 

2. - What happens when you try?

- Answer – logging off, saving your settings, windows is shutting down, then

that shutting down message disappears, the 3 monitors are blank but the mouse

still moves, keyboard num lock caps lock lights work, hard disk LED is on

continously and that’s it. Have to either hit reset button or power off.

Left it in this state for over 30 minutes and it never shuts.

 

3. - What happens when you restore the original 80 GByte disk?

- Answer – I was in a hurry and wiped the old HD as it is used for backups

on the USB HD external enclosure.

 

4. - What happens when you boot the server with a Windows boot disk?

- Answer – Just to make sure we are on the same page, the server boots fine,

but checked just now and my 2 boot diskettes failed to load the server.

After the boot menu appears and select server boot, nothing happens except

the floppy disk light stays on.

- tested XP professional on boot disk and it works.

- Thanks for putting me through these additional checks, turns out my boot

disk is really old, will see if creating a new one allows me to create the

boot disk that will load the server.

- New Boot Disk – successfully loads server but shutdown still fails

 

2. Latest update – Memory.dmp file created today after booting Server.

Previously enabled Memory.dmp option had no output.

- unable to open 2+gig DMP file with Notepad, wordpad, MSword.

 

- Event Log system / Application error messages, initial bootup windows

popup error messages – suspect that Windows Updates requiring restarts are

causing these errors and sent error reports to Microsoft but their web page

explanation is unrelated to the errors [supposed to have a blue screen but

that’s not the problem]. No solution available.

 

Thanks for your time, the server is part of a Cisco CCNP home network

computer lab for my studies. It is still working perfectly but the error

messages are increasing. Will do a full system backup but this is the 1st

time I’ve not been able to fix a problem. If it was a blue screen crash, you

just have to reload the system or do a recovery.

 

Michael

 

====================

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "mikerossell@msn.com" <mikerossell@msn.com@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> in message news:660AF3E3-AE58-4692-A6B1-8B2C2372CD6A@microsoft.com...

> >- PROBLEM - started when I replaced the master IDE HD from an 80gig HD to

> >a

> > 200gb. Used an External USB HD kit + Seagate Maxblast-5 [uSB support] for

> > Cloning.

> >

> > - PC SETUP INFO - Dual boot setup, 2 HDs - Server O/S on 2nd HD. On the

> > 1st HD [the cloned one] resides a small DOS boot partition where the

> > boot.ini

> > is located and 1 install of Win XP Pro & on the 2nd HD is another Win XP

> > Pro

> > OS and Server 2003 on different partitions.

> >

> > The 2 Win XPs boot and shutdown fine. Serv 2003 also boots fine but

> > cannot

> > shutdown.

> >

> > - Current Problems:

> > - Windows Updates requiring reboots may not be getting installed.

> > - Recently, after hitting the reset button when shutting the server, the

> > Win

> > XP on the 2nd HD crashed for the first time after years [blue screen] and

> > continued crashing until I did a -Last known good config fixed and it's

> > been

> > fine for over a week.

> >

> > - ATTEMPTED FIXES - all Failed

> > - Chkdsk DOS boot partition, Server - no errors

> > - Recovery Console - Fix MBR, Fixboot

> > - recorded all paritions + drive letters before & after cloning, changed

> > all

> > Drive letters after cloning to previous settings.

> > - checked all Boot.ini entries

> > - enabled memory.dmp - no file created

> > - Dr. Watson log - no information

> > - Event log - nothing

> > - installed User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

> >

> > Web searches + Microsoft support - zilch???

> >

> > Any ideas???

> >

> > Michael

>

> Some questions:

> - How are you trying to shut down the server? Via the

> Start Menu or with shutdown.exe?

> - What happens when you try?

> - What happens when you restore the original 80 GByte disk?

> - What happens when you boot the server with a Windows boot disk?

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD

 

I think you're dealing either with a corrupted registry or else with an

incompatibility between the old disk and the new disk. BTW, when

I go through such exercises with servers I always leave myself a

backout path. In your case I would have kept the old disk for

a couple of weeks. My clients do not appreciate it having a server

off the air for several days.

 

Here are some options that come to the mind.

- Clone the whole system to the old disk.

- See if there is a recent version of the System registry file in the

Repair folder. If there is, save the current version, then restore

the recent version. On my system I run regsave.exe once a week

so that I always have three versions of the registry files: Live,

most recent, the one before that.

- Retrieve the System registry file from backup to a different location,

then proceed as above.

- Take a full backup, then restore the System State to a date before

the cloning exercise.

 

 

"mikerossell@msn.com" <mikerossellmsncom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:4D4C9954-9C6F-43F8-B9A0-F40DFD2148C3@microsoft.com...

> Reply to your questions:

>

> 1. - How are you trying to shut down the server? Via the Start Menu or

> with

> shutdown.exe?

> - Answer - have tried all methods, but did a CMD prompt Shutdown -s to

> check

>

> 2. - What happens when you try?

> - Answer - logging off, saving your settings, windows is shutting down,

> then

> that shutting down message disappears, the 3 monitors are blank but the

> mouse

> still moves, keyboard num lock caps lock lights work, hard disk LED is on

> continously and that's it. Have to either hit reset button or power off.

> Left it in this state for over 30 minutes and it never shuts.

>

> 3. - What happens when you restore the original 80 GByte disk?

> - Answer - I was in a hurry and wiped the old HD as it is used for backups

> on the USB HD external enclosure.

>

> 4. - What happens when you boot the server with a Windows boot disk?

> - Answer - Just to make sure we are on the same page, the server boots

> fine,

> but checked just now and my 2 boot diskettes failed to load the server.

> After the boot menu appears and select server boot, nothing happens except

> the floppy disk light stays on.

> - tested XP professional on boot disk and it works.

> - Thanks for putting me through these additional checks, turns out my boot

> disk is really old, will see if creating a new one allows me to create the

> boot disk that will load the server.

> - New Boot Disk - successfully loads server but shutdown still fails

>

> 2. Latest update - Memory.dmp file created today after booting Server.

> Previously enabled Memory.dmp option had no output.

> - unable to open 2+gig DMP file with Notepad, wordpad, MSword.

>

> - Event Log system / Application error messages, initial bootup windows

> popup error messages - suspect that Windows Updates requiring restarts are

> causing these errors and sent error reports to Microsoft but their web

> page

> explanation is unrelated to the errors [supposed to have a blue screen but

> that's not the problem]. No solution available.

>

> Thanks for your time, the server is part of a Cisco CCNP home network

> computer lab for my studies. It is still working perfectly but the error

> messages are increasing. Will do a full system backup but this is the 1st

> time I've not been able to fix a problem. If it was a blue screen crash,

> you

> just have to reload the system or do a recovery.

>

> Michael

>

> ====================

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>>

>> "mikerossell@msn.com" <mikerossell@msn.com@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote

>> in message news:660AF3E3-AE58-4692-A6B1-8B2C2372CD6A@microsoft.com...

>> >- PROBLEM - started when I replaced the master IDE HD from an 80gig HD

>> >to

>> >a

>> > 200gb. Used an External USB HD kit + Seagate Maxblast-5 [uSB support]

>> > for

>> > Cloning.

>> >

>> > - PC SETUP INFO - Dual boot setup, 2 HDs - Server O/S on 2nd HD. On

>> > the

>> > 1st HD [the cloned one] resides a small DOS boot partition where the

>> > boot.ini

>> > is located and 1 install of Win XP Pro & on the 2nd HD is another Win

>> > XP

>> > Pro

>> > OS and Server 2003 on different partitions.

>> >

>> > The 2 Win XPs boot and shutdown fine. Serv 2003 also boots fine but

>> > cannot

>> > shutdown.

>> >

>> > - Current Problems:

>> > - Windows Updates requiring reboots may not be getting installed.

>> > - Recently, after hitting the reset button when shutting the server,

>> > the

>> > Win

>> > XP on the 2nd HD crashed for the first time after years [blue screen]

>> > and

>> > continued crashing until I did a -Last known good config fixed and it's

>> > been

>> > fine for over a week.

>> >

>> > - ATTEMPTED FIXES - all Failed

>> > - Chkdsk DOS boot partition, Server - no errors

>> > - Recovery Console - Fix MBR, Fixboot

>> > - recorded all paritions + drive letters before & after cloning,

>> > changed

>> > all

>> > Drive letters after cloning to previous settings.

>> > - checked all Boot.ini entries

>> > - enabled memory.dmp - no file created

>> > - Dr. Watson log - no information

>> > - Event log - nothing

>> > - installed User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

>> >

>> > Web searches + Microsoft support - zilch???

>> >

>> > Any ideas???

>> >

>> > Michael

>>

>> Some questions:

>> - How are you trying to shut down the server? Via the

>> Start Menu or with shutdown.exe?

>> - What happens when you try?

>> - What happens when you restore the original 80 GByte disk?

>> - What happens when you boot the server with a Windows boot disk?

>>

>>

>>

[Guest The_Nite_Owl]

Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD

 

You might have an issue with power management and the new drive.

Verify the write methods set for the hard drive in the system bios and back

them up to a more conservative setting to see if it helps.

If the drives are set to auto-select for the cabling try setting them

explicitly to master/slave settings.

Check if there is a newer bios available for the servers mainboard, the old

firmware may have had bugs in the support of the larger sized IDE drive.

Check if the mainboard manufacturer has newer IDE controller drivers and

check the DMA settings of the drives.

 

"mikerossell@msn.com" <mikerossell@msn.com@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

in message news:660AF3E3-AE58-4692-A6B1-8B2C2372CD6A@microsoft.com...

>- PROBLEM - started when I replaced the master IDE HD from an 80gig HD to

>a

> 200gb. Used an External USB HD kit + Seagate Maxblast-5 [uSB support] for

> Cloning.

>

> - PC SETUP INFO - Dual boot setup, 2 HDs - Server O/S on 2nd HD. On the

> 1st HD [the cloned one] resides a small DOS boot partition where the

> boot.ini

> is located and 1 install of Win XP Pro & on the 2nd HD is another Win XP

> Pro

> OS and Server 2003 on different partitions.

>

> The 2 Win XPs boot and shutdown fine. Serv 2003 also boots fine but

> cannot

> shutdown.

>

> - Current Problems:

> - Windows Updates requiring reboots may not be getting installed.

> - Recently, after hitting the reset button when shutting the server, the

> Win

> XP on the 2nd HD crashed for the first time after years [blue screen] and

> continued crashing until I did a -Last known good config fixed and it's

> been

> fine for over a week.

>

> - ATTEMPTED FIXES - all Failed

> - Chkdsk DOS boot partition, Server - no errors

> - Recovery Console - Fix MBR, Fixboot

> - recorded all paritions + drive letters before & after cloning, changed

> all

> Drive letters after cloning to previous settings.

> - checked all Boot.ini entries

> - enabled memory.dmp - no file created

> - Dr. Watson log - no information

> - Event log - nothing

> - installed User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

>

> Web searches + Microsoft support - zilch???

>

> Any ideas???

>

> Michael

>

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[Guest mikerossell@msn.com]

Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD

 

Reply to Nite Owl:

- [CURRENT STATUS] – The Server is Rebooting finally woooww?*/!!! (tested 2x

so far)

- but it takes more than 10 minutes to shutdown and restart. Other positive

signs are that new updates from Microsoft I installed actually completed

installation after the successful reboots.

 

- [FIXES I TRIED THAT MAY HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM] –

 

1. bootcfg /scan - Booted Serv 2003 Install CD, run this cmd last night and

it found a 1 of 2 WinXP installs and I selected it.

- Result – all the System/ Application Error Messages [event log] and Pop

Window erros stopped occurring but the Server still would not shutdown /

reboot.

 

2. Microsoft Update – found 2 new updates to .NET FRAMEWORK which I

installed and the server rebooted after this.

- The reason I installed the updates is because of a previous problem with

this server that fixed some instability issues.

 

---------------------------------------------

 

- RESPONSES TO YOUR VALUED SUGGESTIONS:

 

1. - You might have an issue with power management and the new drive.

Verify the write methods set for the hard drive in the system bios and back

them up to a more conservative setting to see if it helps.

 

- ANSWER – checked all settings for this Intel Motherboard Bios just to make

sure and did not find any settings of the sort you mentioned. The Intel Bios

has very few adjustments unlike Clone PC brands using Award Bios.

 

- the new drive is a Seagate BARRACUDA MODEL - ST3200822A - [7200RPM] which

is under warranty until 2009, there are no Power Management settings

available. What I’m saying is this is a far new and better HD than the 80gig

Seagate it replaced which had no problems.

 

2. - If the drives are set to auto-select for the cabling try setting them

explicitly to master/slave settings.

- ANSWER – Master / Slave is my configuration for both HDs cabling.

 

3. - Check if there is a newer bios available for the servers mainboard, the

old

firmware may have had bugs in the support of the larger sized IDE drive.

 

- ANSWER – Motherboard is an Intel 845BG which is fairly old but has a

2.4ghz Intel CPU & 2gig RAM that runs fast. I upgraded the BIOS many times

over the years, I stopped checking around 2+ years ago.

- the other HD the server boots from is 120gig and have had it for around 4

years without any problems.

 

 

4. - Check if the mainboard manufacturer has newer IDE controller drivers and

check the DMA settings of the drives.

 

- DMA settings are set by Bios Automatically and the only information is the

Ultra DMA Mode 5. As I said the Intel Bios does not allow you to try

anything adventurous LOL.

 

 

 

==================================================

 

"The_Nite_Owl" wrote:

> You might have an issue with power management and the new drive.

> Verify the write methods set for the hard drive in the system bios and back

> them up to a more conservative setting to see if it helps.

> If the drives are set to auto-select for the cabling try setting them

> explicitly to master/slave settings.

> Check if there is a newer bios available for the servers mainboard, the old

> firmware may have had bugs in the support of the larger sized IDE drive.

> Check if the mainboard manufacturer has newer IDE controller drivers and

> check the DMA settings of the drives.

>

> "mikerossell@msn.com" <mikerossell@msn.com@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> in message news:660AF3E3-AE58-4692-A6B1-8B2C2372CD6A@microsoft.com...

> >- PROBLEM - started when I replaced the master IDE HD from an 80gig HD to

> >a

> > 200gb. Used an External USB HD kit + Seagate Maxblast-5 [uSB support] for

> > Cloning.

> >

> > - PC SETUP INFO - Dual boot setup, 2 HDs - Server O/S on 2nd HD. On the

> > 1st HD [the cloned one] resides a small DOS boot partition where the

> > boot.ini

> > is located and 1 install of Win XP Pro & on the 2nd HD is another Win XP

> > Pro

> > OS and Server 2003 on different partitions.

> >

> > The 2 Win XPs boot and shutdown fine. Serv 2003 also boots fine but

> > cannot

> > shutdown.

> >

> > - Current Problems:

> > - Windows Updates requiring reboots may not be getting installed.

> > - Recently, after hitting the reset button when shutting the server, the

> > Win

> > XP on the 2nd HD crashed for the first time after years [blue screen] and

> > continued crashing until I did a -Last known good config fixed and it's

> > been

> > fine for over a week.

> >

> > - ATTEMPTED FIXES - all Failed

> > - Chkdsk DOS boot partition, Server - no errors

> > - Recovery Console - Fix MBR, Fixboot

> > - recorded all paritions + drive letters before & after cloning, changed

> > all

> > Drive letters after cloning to previous settings.

> > - checked all Boot.ini entries

> > - enabled memory.dmp - no file created

> > - Dr. Watson log - no information

> > - Event log - nothing

> > - installed User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

> >

> > Web searches + Microsoft support - zilch???

> >

> > Any ideas???

> >

> > Michael

> >

> > ----------------

> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the

> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I

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>

>

>

[Guest mikerossell@msn.com]

[PLAIN]Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD- [ Final Solution ][/PLAIN]

 

Re: Server 2003 Cannot shutdown - after Cloning HD- [ Final Solution ]

 

By: Michael Rossell

 

Note - the last Post did not solve the problem totally

 

1. - Server Could not Boot Up - after noticing that the pagefile was on the

wrong Hard disk, when I changed it from Drive-2 to Drive-1 which requires a

restart / shutdown

 

2 - Final Solution - boot Serv 2003 CD, do a - Repair of the Existing

Installation and after 2 weeks no problems at all.

 

- My Analysis of the Problem - Dual Boot PCs in previous problems with the

Boot Parition have required a Boot CD either doing a Repair / Bootcfg /scan

Windows installtions, and the last resort the repair process.

 

- Windows Server 2003 Security probably stores the Boot Drive hardware ID

of some sort to prevent unauthorized access to the server by replacing the

Boot drive and accessing sensitive data on the server on the 2nd drive.

 

- Product ID - cmd prompt - systeminfo

Everytime I initiate the repair OS install process using the same OS CD, the

Product ID changes regardless of whether the Boot partition hard disk is the

same one or not.

 

- NTLDR & NTDETECT file date changes to day of Repair Install

 

- Downside of Repair Process - reinstall all Windows OS Updates, Service

Pack-2 first to reduce time, Internet Explorer Version reverts back to IE6 &

must also be updated.

 

- An System Backup Restore probably would not work to fix the Boot Parition

problem.

 

 

 

============================================

 

"mikerossell@msn.com" wrote:

> Reply to Nite Owl:

> - [CURRENT STATUS] – The Server is Rebooting finally woooww?*/!!! (tested 2x

> so far)

> - but it takes more than 10 minutes to shutdown and restart. Other positive

> signs are that new updates from Microsoft I installed actually completed

> installation after the successful reboots.

>

> - [FIXES I TRIED THAT MAY HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM] –

>

> 1. bootcfg /scan - Booted Serv 2003 Install CD, run this cmd last night and

> it found a 1 of 2 WinXP installs and I selected it.

> - Result – all the System/ Application Error Messages [event log] and Pop

> Window erros stopped occurring but the Server still would not shutdown /

> reboot.

>

> 2. Microsoft Update – found 2 new updates to .NET FRAMEWORK which I

> installed and the server rebooted after this.

> - The reason I installed the updates is because of a previous problem with

> this server that fixed some instability issues.

>

> ---------------------------------------------

>

> - RESPONSES TO YOUR VALUED SUGGESTIONS:

>

> 1. - You might have an issue with power management and the new drive.

> Verify the write methods set for the hard drive in the system bios and back

> them up to a more conservative setting to see if it helps.

>

> - ANSWER – checked all settings for this Intel Motherboard Bios just to make

> sure and did not find any settings of the sort you mentioned. The Intel Bios

> has very few adjustments unlike Clone PC brands using Award Bios.

>

> - the new drive is a Seagate BARRACUDA MODEL - ST3200822A - [7200RPM] which

> is under warranty until 2009, there are no Power Management settings

> available. What I’m saying is this is a far new and better HD than the 80gig

> Seagate it replaced which had no problems.

>

> 2. - If the drives are set to auto-select for the cabling try setting them

> explicitly to master/slave settings.

> - ANSWER – Master / Slave is my configuration for both HDs cabling.

>

> 3. - Check if there is a newer bios available for the servers mainboard, the

> old

> firmware may have had bugs in the support of the larger sized IDE drive.

>

> - ANSWER – Motherboard is an Intel 845BG which is fairly old but has a

> 2.4ghz Intel CPU & 2gig RAM that runs fast. I upgraded the BIOS many times

> over the years, I stopped checking around 2+ years ago.

> - the other HD the server boots from is 120gig and have had it for around 4

> years without any problems.

>

>

> 4. - Check if the mainboard manufacturer has newer IDE controller drivers and

> check the DMA settings of the drives.

>

> - DMA settings are set by Bios Automatically and the only information is the

> Ultra DMA Mode 5. As I said the Intel Bios does not allow you to try

> anything adventurous LOL.

>

>

>

> ==================================================

>

> "The_Nite_Owl" wrote:

>

> > You might have an issue with power management and the new drive.

> > Verify the write methods set for the hard drive in the system bios and back

> > them up to a more conservative setting to see if it helps.

> > If the drives are set to auto-select for the cabling try setting them

> > explicitly to master/slave settings.

> > Check if there is a newer bios available for the servers mainboard, the old

> > firmware may have had bugs in the support of the larger sized IDE drive.

> > Check if the mainboard manufacturer has newer IDE controller drivers and

> > check the DMA settings of the drives.

> >

> > "mikerossell@msn.com" <mikerossell@msn.com@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> > in message news:660AF3E3-AE58-4692-A6B1-8B2C2372CD6A@microsoft.com...

> > >- PROBLEM - started when I replaced the master IDE HD from an 80gig HD to

> > >a

> > > 200gb. Used an External USB HD kit + Seagate Maxblast-5 [uSB support] for

> > > Cloning.

> > >

> > > - PC SETUP INFO - Dual boot setup, 2 HDs - Server O/S on 2nd HD. On the

> > > 1st HD [the cloned one] resides a small DOS boot partition where the

> > > boot.ini

> > > is located and 1 install of Win XP Pro & on the 2nd HD is another Win XP

> > > Pro

> > > OS and Server 2003 on different partitions.

> > >

> > > The 2 Win XPs boot and shutdown fine. Serv 2003 also boots fine but

> > > cannot

> > > shutdown.

> > >

> > > - Current Problems:

> > > - Windows Updates requiring reboots may not be getting installed.

> > > - Recently, after hitting the reset button when shutting the server, the

> > > Win

> > > XP on the 2nd HD crashed for the first time after years [blue screen] and

> > > continued crashing until I did a -Last known good config fixed and it's

> > > been

> > > fine for over a week.

> > >

> > > - ATTEMPTED FIXES - all Failed

> > > - Chkdsk DOS boot partition, Server - no errors

> > > - Recovery Console - Fix MBR, Fixboot

> > > - recorded all paritions + drive letters before & after cloning, changed

> > > all

> > > Drive letters after cloning to previous settings.

> > > - checked all Boot.ini entries

> > > - enabled memory.dmp - no file created

> > > - Dr. Watson log - no information

> > > - Event log - nothing

> > > - installed User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

> > >

> > > Web searches + Microsoft support - zilch???

> > >

> > > Any ideas???

> > >

> > > Michael

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