Unable to boot/start win98 computer

November 18, 2007

I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

"CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

supply.

If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

screen and then to another screen that is this:

"Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

Widows application.

The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

the device file no longer exists.

If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

application using its uninstall or setup program.

If you still want to use the application associated with this device

file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

asivmsvc.vxd"

If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

LJ Brown

--

LJB

November 18, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.

In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.

Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_

Open the system.ini in notepad.

Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:

system.drv=atmsys.drv

to

system.drv=system.drv

Save and close notepad.

Reboot to your Normal desktop.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

> OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

> wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>

> "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>

> If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

> there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> supply.

>

> If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> screen and then to another screen that is this:

>

> "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> Widows application.

>

> The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> the device file no longer exists.

>

> If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> application using its uninstall or setup program.

>

> If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>

> asivmsvc.vxd"

>

> If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

> with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>

> The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

> me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

> can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

> several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>

> I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

> seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

> appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>

> LJ Brown

>

> --

> LJB

November 18, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Replies inline....

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

> OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

> wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>

> "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>

> If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

> there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> supply.

The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu

allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may be

dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving Changes

(even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the

processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the

BIOS setup.

You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type

battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save

changes and exit.

Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

> If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> screen and then to another screen that is this:

>

> "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> Widows application.

>

> The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> the device file no longer exists.

>

> If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> application using its uninstall or setup program.

>

> If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>

> asivmsvc.vxd"

In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver

file.

Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no

longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can correctly

uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

Printers control panel.

The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not critical

to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's

reply for the atmsys error.

> If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

> with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

Sysedit.

Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

system.drv=atmsys.drv

to

system.drv=system.drv

> The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

> me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

> can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

> several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>

> I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

> seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

> appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Brian,

Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to

get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is

"unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and

by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double

click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't

know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in

safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through

FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can

enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some

help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making

the suggested change. Thanks

--

LJB

"Brian A." wrote:

> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.

> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.

> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_

> Open the system.ini in notepad.

> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:

> system.drv=atmsys.drv

> to

> system.drv=system.drv

>

> Save and close notepad.

> Reboot to your Normal desktop.

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >

> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >

> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> > supply.

> >

> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> >

> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> > Widows application.

> >

> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> > the device file no longer exists.

> >

> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> >

> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

> >

> > asivmsvc.vxd"

> >

> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

> >

> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

> >

> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

> >

> > LJ Brown

> >

> > --

> > LJB

>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Hi Glen,

I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to

show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for

replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

motherboard. Thanks for the input.

--

LJB

"glee" wrote:

> Replies inline....

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >

> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >

> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> > supply.

>

> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu

> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may be

> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>

> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving Changes

> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the

> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the

> BIOS setup.

>

> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type

> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save

> changes and exit.

>

> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>

> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> >

> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> > Widows application.

> >

> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> > the device file no longer exists.

> >

> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> >

> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

> >

> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>

> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver

> file.

>

> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no

> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can correctly

> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

> Printers control panel.

>

> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not critical

> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's

> reply for the atmsys error.

>

> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>

> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

> Sysedit.

> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

> system.drv=atmsys.drv

> to

> system.drv=system.drv

>

> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

> >

> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

No, the atmsys error and resolution have nothing to do with the CPU error. The CPU

error is a BIOS message, and has to do with your hardware. It occurs before Windows

ever starts. Your atmsys error occurs when Windows starts to load, and refers to a

driver loaded from Windows startup files.

In Safe Mode, click Start> Run, type:

sysedit

|Click OK|

In Sysedit, click the Window menu> then click System.ini on the sub-menu that

appears.

This will bring System.ini to the front.

Scroll to the [boot] section, and look for this line:

system.drv=atmsys.drv

(or it may show this line instead:

system.drv=atmsystem.drv)

Edit it to read

system.drv=system.drv

Click the File menu> Save, then close Sysedit.

It will automatically make a backup of the file you changed.

Reboot.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:9AAFCB62-702A-4FA0-83D6-9937B4B5158E@microsoft.com...

> Brian,

> Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to

> get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is

> "unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and

> by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double

> click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't

> know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in

> safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through

> FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can

> enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some

> help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making

> the suggested change. Thanks

> --

> LJB

>

> "Brian A." wrote:

>

>> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.

>> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.

>> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_

>> Open the system.ini in notepad.

>> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:

>> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>> to

>> system.drv=system.drv

>>

>> Save and close notepad.

>> Reboot to your Normal desktop.

>>

>> --

>>

>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>>

>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

>> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

>> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>> >

>> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

>> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >

>> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

>> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>> > supply.

>> >

>> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

>> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >

>> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

>> > Widows application.

>> >

>> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

>> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >

>> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

>> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >

>> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>> >

>> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>> >

>> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

>> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>> >

>> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

>> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

>> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>> >

>> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

>> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

>> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>> >

>> > LJ Brown

>> >

>> > --

>> > LJB

>>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did the

"routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may

vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the battery

holder or its clips.

You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the CR2032

Lithium battery.

You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your

body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS

setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit

Saving Changes.

How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

How to replace the CMOS battery

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

CMOS battery 2032

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

> Hi Glen,

> I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to

> show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

> The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for

> replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

> motherboard. Thanks for the input.

> --

> LJB

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> Replies inline....

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

>> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

>> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>> >

>> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

>> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >

>> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

>> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>> > supply.

>>

>> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu

>> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may

>> be

>> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>>

>> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving

>> Changes

>> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the

>> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the

>> BIOS setup.

>>

>> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type

>> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save

>> changes and exit.

>>

>> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>>

>> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

>> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >

>> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

>> > Widows application.

>> >

>> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

>> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >

>> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

>> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >

>> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>> >

>> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>>

>> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver

>> file.

>>

>> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

>> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no

>> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

>> correctly

>> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

>> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

>> Printers control panel.

>>

>> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

>> critical

>> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's

>> reply for the atmsys error.

>>

>> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

>> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>>

>> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

>> Sysedit.

>> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

>> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>> to

>> system.drv=system.drv

>>

>> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

>> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

>> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>> >

>> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

>> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

>> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>>

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Well I followed your suggestions and changed the line to

system.drv=system.drv in the system configuration utility. Nothing has

changed on rebooting however; the same messages appear. Now when I get to

the first screen that says "cannot find a device file.....asivmsvc.vxd" and

click any key a very brief screen comes and goes but with a camera it says

"error loading lmouse.drv...you must reinstall Windows". previously the same

error came up but associated with the atmsy.drv.

Searching through several Help areas and also from my Windows Startup

disc I was directed to System.ini in msconfig and to uncheck the boxes

associated with the atmsy.drv which I did. I did this before I started to

communicate with this newsgroup but it was after I did the unchecking that

the "lmouse.drv" replaced the "atmsy.drv" on boot. When I saw this I went

back to system.ini and replaced the check marks at the atmsy.drv sites but

the lmouse.drv continues to come up.

Now checking the system.ini in the system configuration utility the line

reads as desired, "system.drv=system.drv".

LJB

--

LJB

"glee" wrote:

> No, the atmsys error and resolution have nothing to do with the CPU error. The CPU

> error is a BIOS message, and has to do with your hardware. It occurs before Windows

> ever starts. Your atmsys error occurs when Windows starts to load, and refers to a

> driver loaded from Windows startup files.

>

> In Safe Mode, click Start> Run, type:

> sysedit

> |Click OK|

>

> In Sysedit, click the Window menu> then click System.ini on the sub-menu that

> appears.

> This will bring System.ini to the front.

>

> Scroll to the [boot] section, and look for this line:

> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>

> (or it may show this line instead:

> system.drv=atmsystem.drv)

>

> Edit it to read

> system.drv=system.drv

>

> Click the File menu> Save, then close Sysedit.

> It will automatically make a backup of the file you changed.

>

> Reboot.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:9AAFCB62-702A-4FA0-83D6-9937B4B5158E@microsoft.com...

> > Brian,

> > Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to

> > get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is

> > "unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and

> > by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double

> > click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't

> > know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in

> > safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through

> > FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can

> > enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some

> > help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making

> > the suggested change. Thanks

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >

> >> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.

> >> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.

> >> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_

> >> Open the system.ini in notepad.

> >> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:

> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

> >> to

> >> system.drv=system.drv

> >>

> >> Save and close notepad.

> >> Reboot to your Normal desktop.

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >>

> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >> >

> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >> >

> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> >> > supply.

> >> >

> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> >> >

> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> >> > Widows application.

> >> >

> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> >> > the device file no longer exists.

> >> >

> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> >> >

> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

> >> >

> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

> >> >

> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

> >> >

> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

> >> >

> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

> >> >

> >> > LJ Brown

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >>

>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Hi Glen,

Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

"unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should

I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

--

LJB

"glee" wrote:

> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did the

> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may

> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>

> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the battery

> holder or its clips.

>

> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the CR2032

> Lithium battery.

>

> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>

> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your

> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>

> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS

> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit

> Saving Changes.

>

> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>

> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>

> How to replace the CMOS battery

> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>

> CMOS battery 2032

> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Glen,

> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to

> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for

> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> >> Replies inline....

> >>

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >> >

> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >> >

> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> >> > supply.

> >>

> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu

> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may

> >> be

> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

> >>

> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving

> >> Changes

> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the

> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the

> >> BIOS setup.

> >>

> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type

> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save

> >> changes and exit.

> >>

> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

> >>

> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> >> >

> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> >> > Widows application.

> >> >

> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> >> > the device file no longer exists.

> >> >

> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> >> >

> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

> >> >

> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

> >>

> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver

> >> file.

> >>

> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no

> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

> >> correctly

> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

> >> Printers control panel.

> >>

> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

> >> critical

> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's

> >> reply for the atmsys error.

> >>

> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

> >>

> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

> >> Sysedit.

> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

> >> to

> >> system.drv=system.drv

> >>

> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

> >> >

> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>

>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:04:00 -0800, LewB

<whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote:

>Brian,

> Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to

>get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is

>"unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and

>by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double

>click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't

>know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in

>safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through

>FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can

>enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some

>help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making

>the suggested change. Thanks

>--

>LJB

The backing up is the easy part. Boot from a dos floppy and copy the

file to another folder or to the floppy itself. If you dont know how

to use dos commands, this is a good time to learn.

Try this...

boot from the floppy

Now type this. (do not type the word *ENTER*, hit ENTER KEY)

c:

*ENTER*

cd\windows

*ENTER*

copy system.ini a:

*ENTER*

edit system.ini

*ENTER*

(you need the dos EDIT.COM file on your floppy)

(use this dos editor to edit the file as desired, then follow

directions to save and exit).

ALT F - ALT S (save)

ALT F - ALT Q (quit editor)

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the

machine back in order.

Glen stated:

<quote>

The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

</quote>

You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show some

other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB may

have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM to......

Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe

side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the CR2032

is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that one's

different.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> Hi Glen,

> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should

> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

> --

> LJB

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did

>> the

>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may

>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>>

>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

>> battery

>> holder or its clips.

>>

>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the CR2032

>> Lithium battery.

>>

>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>>

>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your

>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>>

>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS

>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit

>> Saving Changes.

>>

>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>>

>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>>

>> How to replace the CMOS battery

>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>>

>> CMOS battery 2032

>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>>

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Glen,

>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to

>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for

>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Replies inline....

>> >>

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>> >> >

>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >> >

>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

>> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>> >> > supply.

>> >>

>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft

>> >> Menu

>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may

>> >> be

>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>> >>

>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving

>> >> Changes

>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the

>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in

>> >> the

>> >> BIOS setup.

>> >>

>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

>> >> coin-type

>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,

>> >> save

>> >> changes and exit.

>> >>

>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>> >>

>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >> >

>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

>> >> > Widows application.

>> >> >

>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

>> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >> >

>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >> >

>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>> >> >

>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>> >>

>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer

>> >> driver

>> >> file.

>> >>

>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you

>> >> no

>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

>> >> correctly

>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

>> >> Printers control panel.

>> >>

>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

>> >> critical

>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's

>> >> reply for the atmsys error.

>> >>

>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>> >>

>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

>> >> Sysedit.

>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>> >> to

>> >> system.drv=system.drv

>> >>

>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>> >> >

>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >>

>>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for the optimized

defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called the "failsafe"

settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the choices are

for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your choices? Give

us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your earlier posts.

You mention "atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned the first

file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according to the

messages you receive at startup?

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the

> machine back in order.

> Glen stated:

> <quote>

> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> </quote>

>

> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>

> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show

> some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB

> may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

> to......

>

> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe

> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the

> CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

> one's different.

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> Hi Glen,

>> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

>> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

>> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should

>> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>> --

>> LJB

>>

>> "glee" wrote:

>>

>>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did

>>> the

>>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may

>>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>>>

>>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

>>> battery

>>> holder or its clips.

>>>

>>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the

>>> CR2032

>>> Lithium battery.

>>>

>>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>>>

>>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your

>>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>>>

>>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS

>>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit

>>> Saving Changes.

>>>

>>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>>>

>>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>>>

>>> How to replace the CMOS battery

>>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>>>

>>> CMOS battery 2032

>>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>>>

>>> --

>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>

>>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>>> > Hi Glen,

>>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to

>>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for

>>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

>>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>>> > --

>>> > LJB

>>> >

>>> > "glee" wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> Replies inline....

>>> >>

>>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as

>>> >> >the

>>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

>>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>>> >> >

>>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

>>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>>> >> >

>>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

>>> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>>> >> > supply.

>>> >>

>>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft

>>> >> Menu

>>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery

>>> >> may

>>> >> be

>>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>>> >>

>>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving

>>> >> Changes

>>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect

>>> >> the

>>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in

>>> >> the

>>> >> BIOS setup.

>>> >>

>>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

>>> >> coin-type

>>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,

>>> >> save

>>> >> changes and exit.

>>> >>

>>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>>> >>

>>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

>>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>>> >> >

>>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

>>> >> > Widows application.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

>>> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

>>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>>> >>

>>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer

>>> >> driver

>>> >> file.

>>> >>

>>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

>>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you

>>> >> no

>>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

>>> >> correctly

>>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

>>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

>>> >> Printers control panel.

>>> >>

>>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

>>> >> critical

>>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See

>>> >> Brian's

>>> >> reply for the atmsys error.

>>> >>

>>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

>>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>>> >>

>>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

>>> >> Sysedit.

>>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

>>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>>> >> to

>>> >> system.drv=system.drv

>>> >>

>>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

>>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

>>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

>>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

>>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>>> >>

>>> >> --

>>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>> >>

>>>

>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

OK, I replied to your other post before I saw this one.

Lew, you say "nothing changed....the same messages appear". WHICH messages? We are

discussing a number of different and possibly unrelated messages in this thread.

At this point in your description, I can't tell what you have checked or unchecked

in msconfig (who told you to use msconfig?!), what lines say what, how may

"system.drv=" lines you have in the file now, and whether one or more messages

*concerning the missing files* are appearing at startup.

We asked that you use Notepad or Sysedit....Sysedit makes a backup. Using the check

boxes in msconfig has confused the issue. If you are now getting an lmouse error

also, you have changed other lines or checkboxes in either msconfig or sysedit. We

can't help if you don't follow direction exactly.

<sigh> I have to go to the dentist, so I will have to come back to this later.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:C4D23F71-4BD1-4BDB-A9A7-D3B228F1A044@microsoft.com...

> Well I followed your suggestions and changed the line to

> system.drv=system.drv in the system configuration utility. Nothing has

> changed on rebooting however; the same messages appear. Now when I get to

> the first screen that says "cannot find a device file.....asivmsvc.vxd" and

> click any key a very brief screen comes and goes but with a camera it says

> "error loading lmouse.drv...you must reinstall Windows". previously the same

> error came up but associated with the atmsy.drv.

> Searching through several Help areas and also from my Windows Startup

> disc I was directed to System.ini in msconfig and to uncheck the boxes

> associated with the atmsy.drv which I did. I did this before I started to

> communicate with this newsgroup but it was after I did the unchecking that

> the "lmouse.drv" replaced the "atmsy.drv" on boot. When I saw this I went

> back to system.ini and replaced the check marks at the atmsy.drv sites but

> the lmouse.drv continues to come up.

>

> Now checking the system.ini in the system configuration utility the line

> reads as desired, "system.drv=system.drv".

>

> LJB

> --

> LJB

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> No, the atmsys error and resolution have nothing to do with the CPU error. The

>> CPU

>> error is a BIOS message, and has to do with your hardware. It occurs before

>> Windows

>> ever starts. Your atmsys error occurs when Windows starts to load, and refers to

>> a

>> driver loaded from Windows startup files.

>>

>> In Safe Mode, click Start> Run, type:

>> sysedit

>> |Click OK|

>>

>> In Sysedit, click the Window menu> then click System.ini on the sub-menu that

>> appears.

>> This will bring System.ini to the front.

>>

>> Scroll to the [boot] section, and look for this line:

>> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>>

>> (or it may show this line instead:

>> system.drv=atmsystem.drv)

>>

>> Edit it to read

>> system.drv=system.drv

>>

>> Click the File menu> Save, then close Sysedit.

>> It will automatically make a backup of the file you changed.

>>

>> Reboot.

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:9AAFCB62-702A-4FA0-83D6-9937B4B5158E@microsoft.com...

>> > Brian,

>> > Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to

>> > get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is

>> > "unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and

>> > by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double

>> > click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't

>> > know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in

>> > safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through

>> > FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can

>> > enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some

>> > help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making

>> > the suggested change. Thanks

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >

>> >> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.

>> >> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.

>> >> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_

>> >> Open the system.ini in notepad.

>> >> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:

>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>> >> to

>> >> system.drv=system.drv

>> >>

>> >> Save and close notepad.

>> >> Reboot to your Normal desktop.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >>

>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the

>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>> >> >

>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >> >

>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

>> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>> >> > supply.

>> >> >

>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >> >

>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

>> >> > Widows application.

>> >> >

>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

>> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >> >

>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >> >

>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>> >> >

>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>> >> >

>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>> >> >

>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>> >> >

>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>> >> >

>> >> > LJ Brown

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >>

>>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

I'll be gosh darned! Earlier I was thinking the "asivmsvc.vxd" (Adobe System

Information) might have to do with Adobe but I backed away when NEC was mentioned.

I've see it mentioned as being used in other apps, Adobe being one of them, but not

as much.

Now I've run into this which has to do with atmsy.drv (Adobe Type Manager) and puts

me back on that track. BTW Glen, 2 out of 3 files were mentioned in Lew's orig.

post, the 2 mentioned here, not lmouse.drv.

Lew, if you have the second line in System.ini under [boot] as mention in the

article, it may get one issue tossed on the roadside.

Word Processor Files Won't Open in Works for Windows

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/99835

Please keep in mind to provide all of the other info requested.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:O40Nc7qKIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for the optimized

> defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called the

> "failsafe" settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

>

> Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the choices are

> for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your choices? Give

> us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

>

> Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your earlier posts.

> You mention "atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned the first

> file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according to the

> messages you receive at startup?

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the

>> machine back in order.

>> Glen stated:

>> <quote>

>> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> </quote>

>>

>> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>>

>> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show

>> some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

>> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB

>> may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

>> to......

>>

>> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe

>> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the

>> CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

>> one's different.

>>

>> --

>>

>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>>

>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi Glen,

>>> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

>>> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>>> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

>>> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should

>>> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>>> --

>>> LJB

>>>

>>> "glee" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did

>>>> the

>>>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may

>>>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>>>>

>>>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

>>>> battery

>>>> holder or its clips.

>>>>

>>>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the

>>>> CR2032

>>>> Lithium battery.

>>>>

>>>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>>>>

>>>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your

>>>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>>>>

>>>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS

>>>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit

>>>> Saving Changes.

>>>>

>>>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>>>>

>>>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>>>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>>>>

>>>> How to replace the CMOS battery

>>>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>>>>

>>>> CMOS battery 2032

>>>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>

>>>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>>>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>>>> > Hi Glen,

>>>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to

>>>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>>>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for

>>>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

>>>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>>>> > --

>>>> > LJB

>>>> >

>>>> > "glee" wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> Replies inline....

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>>>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>>>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as

>>>> >> >the

>>>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

>>>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

>>>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>>>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>>>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

>>>> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>>>> >> > supply.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft

>>>> >> Menu

>>>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery

>>>> >> may

>>>> >> be

>>>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving

>>>> >> Changes

>>>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect

>>>> >> the

>>>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in

>>>> >> the

>>>> >> BIOS setup.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

>>>> >> coin-type

>>>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,

>>>> >> save

>>>> >> changes and exit.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>>>> >>

>>>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

>>>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

>>>> >> > Widows application.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

>>>> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

>>>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>>>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>>>> >>

>>>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer

>>>> >> driver

>>>> >> file.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

>>>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you

>>>> >> no

>>>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

>>>> >> correctly

>>>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

>>>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

>>>> >> Printers control panel.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

>>>> >> critical

>>>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See

>>>> >> Brian's

>>>> >> reply for the atmsys error.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

>>>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>>>> >>

>>>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

>>>> >> Sysedit.

>>>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

>>>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>>>> >> to

>>>> >> system.drv=system.drv

>>>> >>

>>>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

>>>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

>>>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>>>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

>>>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

>>>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> --

>>>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>> >>

>>>>

>>

>

November 19, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Before I go any further see my response to Glen in a post below.