Unable to boot/start win98 computer

November 20, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Brian,

The Word Processor article references this line:

ATM.SYSTEM.DRV=SYSTEM.DRV

that I have never seen in the system.ini folder. And as previously

mentioned I have made the line change to SYSTEM.DRV=SYSTEM.DRV.

Lew

--

LJB

"Brian A." wrote:

> I'll be gosh darned! Earlier I was thinking the "asivmsvc.vxd" (Adobe System

> Information) might have to do with Adobe but I backed away when NEC was mentioned.

> I've see it mentioned as being used in other apps, Adobe being one of them, but not

> as much.

> Now I've run into this which has to do with atmsy.drv (Adobe Type Manager) and puts

> me back on that track. BTW Glen, 2 out of 3 files were mentioned in Lew's orig.

> post, the 2 mentioned here, not lmouse.drv.

>

> Lew, if you have the second line in System.ini under [boot] as mention in the

> article, it may get one issue tossed on the roadside.

>

> Word Processor Files Won't Open in Works for Windows

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/99835

>

> Please keep in mind to provide all of the other info requested.

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> news:O40Nc7qKIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for the optimized

> > defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called the

> > "failsafe" settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

> >

> > Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the choices are

> > for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your choices? Give

> > us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

> >

> > Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your earlier posts.

> > You mention "atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned the first

> > file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according to the

> > messages you receive at startup?

> > --

> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >

> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> > news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the

> >> machine back in order.

> >> Glen stated:

> >> <quote>

> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >> </quote>

> >>

> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

> >>

> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show

> >> some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB

> >> may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

> >> to......

> >>

> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe

> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the

> >> CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

> >> one's different.

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >>

> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> >>> Hi Glen,

> >>> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

> >>> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

> >>> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

> >>> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should

> >>> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

> >>> --

> >>> LJB

> >>>

> >>> "glee" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did

> >>>> the

> >>>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may

> >>>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >>>>

> >>>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

> >>>> battery

> >>>> holder or its clips.

> >>>>

> >>>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the

> >>>> CR2032

> >>>> Lithium battery.

> >>>>

> >>>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

> >>>>

> >>>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your

> >>>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

> >>>>

> >>>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS

> >>>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit

> >>>> Saving Changes.

> >>>>

> >>>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

> >>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

> >>>>

> >>>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

> >>>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

> >>>>

> >>>> How to replace the CMOS battery

> >>>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

> >>>>

> >>>> CMOS battery 2032

> >>>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>

> >>>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >>>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

> >>>> > Hi Glen,

> >>>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to

> >>>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

> >>>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for

> >>>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

> >>>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

> >>>> > --

> >>>> > LJB

> >>>> >

> >>>> > "glee" wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> >> Replies inline....

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >>>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >>>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as

> >>>> >> >the

> >>>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something

> >>>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> >>>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> >>>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> >>>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing

> >>>> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> >>>> >> > supply.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft

> >>>> >> Menu

> >>>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery

> >>>> >> may

> >>>> >> be

> >>>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving

> >>>> >> Changes

> >>>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect

> >>>> >> the

> >>>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in

> >>>> >> the

> >>>> >> BIOS setup.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

> >>>> >> coin-type

> >>>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,

> >>>> >> save

> >>>> >> changes and exit.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> >>>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> >>>> >> > Widows application.

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> >>>> >> > the device file no longer exists.

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> >>>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> >>>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer

> >>>> >> driver

> >>>> >> file.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and

> >>>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you

> >>>> >> no

> >>>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

> >>>> >> correctly

> >>>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC

> >>>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the

> >>>> >> Printers control panel.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

> >>>> >> critical

> >>>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See

> >>>> >> Brian's

> >>>> >> reply for the atmsys error.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it

> >>>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or

> >>>> >> Sysedit.

> >>>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

> >>>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

> >>>> >> to

> >>>> >> system.drv=system.drv

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows

> >>>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I

> >>>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

> >>>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

> >>>> >> >

> >>>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not

> >>>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

> >>>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> --

> >>>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>> >>

> >>>>

> >>

> >

>

November 20, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Okay, you are hopefully, almost there...

I'll let the original helpers or others work with you on the rest of the

corrections.

As a "heads up" on what they and you will be doing [DO NOT try ANYTHING

until the full recovery plan is outlined] (Note specifically 3 and the

HOWEVER below):

1. You will be returning ALL prior manual modifications to the original

values [from DOS if possible].

2. You will be installing/returning to an older registry before the errors

occurred [hopefully one is available].

3. You MAY be uninstalling and reinstalling some drivers, as you have

*defaulted* the BIOS, which may not have been the original configuration

[though with CMOS loss and/or battery replacement, much of that would likely

have occurred anyway]. They will need to review aspects within the BIOS for

correct settings [such as PNP OS, PCI assignments, AGP settings/memory, hard

drive settings, Power Management, etc.], you will have to follow their

advise EXACTLY.

4. You MAY be cleaning old entries from the registry [may have to use SAFE

Mode prior to ANY normal boot].

HOWEVER, as was originally suggested, the reason for this original hardware

failure should be addressed FIRST, that being, the apparent need to replace

your BIOS/CMOS battery. What you have accomplished with this CPU speed/FSB

check/reset, is to ensure POST can occur without error. That seems to have

been accomplished, but all will be lost the next time the power goes down,

or the computer is unplugged, or a *brown out* or power fluctuation causes

loss of CMOS...

Again, please STOP trying to enter Windows, as EVERY time you do, it makes

it infinitely more difficult to correct potential issues, and creates more

[for instance: Windows may be REMOVING/deleting driver files]...

For a review of battery replacement refer back to Glen's 11-19-2007 post

[this discussion] related to such, and/or:

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/cmos_battery.htm

Okay, guys I'll be *waiting in the wings* [PS. the BIOS settings are

generally the same as would be for any Award BIOS].

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:FD155F9B-D0F3-4131-8044-D3D356F33E9E@microsoft.com...

| Hi MEB,

| I found your note buried in the rest of the notes and when I read

| through it I went into the CMOS and changed the processor speed to

450/100.

| Now when I boot up the error message "the computer is unworkable or has

been

| changed " no longer appears!!! And in order to get into the BIOS I must

now

| click DEL before the boot continues. Previously the computer would hang

up

| at "the computer is unworkable line" and sat there until I chose the next

| step, either the DEL key to get to the BIOS or the F1 key that would take

me

| to this screen:

|

| "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

| Widows application.

|

| The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

| the device file no longer exists.

|

| If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

| application using its uninstall or setup program.

|

| If you still want to use the application associated with this device

| file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

|

| asivmsvc.vxd"

|

| However instead of having to click the F1 key to go further the computer

now

| boots directly to this screen (above) and then hangs up; and as before if

I

| hit any key a brief screen comes on that says "error loading

lmouse.drv...you

| must reinstall Windows". As you will note in my original note this error

| message referred to the "atsmy.drv", now changed to "lmouse.drv".

| Anyway changing the BIOS to the correct CPU speed has helped. In the

| BIOS the CPU SOFT MENU line which is the first line as you know is still

| outlined with exclamation marks fore and aft.

| Thanks for the help. I guess the others will pick up this change and

I

| await further thoughts from everyone.

|

| Lew

|

| --

| LJB

|

| "MEB" wrote:

|

| > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

| > news:1457DB46-C91B-4BC9-8823-2A61338A9AF8@microsoft.com...

| > | I've reviewed the correspondence again and will attempt to provide the

| > | additional information.

| > | I previously stated that the BIOS (in CPU Soft Menu) correctly

lists

| > the

| > | processor and I went back to this area to be certain. The processor

is

| > Intel

| > | Pentium III 450 MHz MMX and that is what is listed in the soft menu.

The

| > CPU

| > | Operating Speed however is only at 233 (66) and I don't know if that

| > should

| > | be 450 instead?? I doubt if this is a factor however??

| > |

| > | Lew

| > |

| > | --

| > | LJB

| > |

| >

| > Just one more clarification, as I happen to be running the newer ABIT

BH6

| > Rev. 2 on one of these systems. SOFT MENU is the CPU/PCI/FSB setup area,

NOT

| > the area for normal BIOS setup. It will be shown [likely at the very

top] as

| > SOFT MENU, which you are to highlight and enter ....

| >

| > The processor speed and setup is crutial... IF you have a 450 mhz. CPU

then

| > it MUST Post as such [its not at 233]... In Soft Menu: check that the

Front

| > Side Bus [two defaults available - 450/66 or 450/100] is set correctly

as

| > you are presently at about half the supposed CPU speed [if actually a

450]

| > at 233.

| > This makes me think you have the 450/100, though it would be best to

check

| > with a DOS CPU test tool for the actual ID, or preferably by physical

| > examination.

| > Those LOCKED Intel processors would not *properly* boot unless

identified

| > accurately [or user defined] AND the FSB, AND PCI bus multiplier were

all

| > correct [or at least within a small overclock range]. The High/low

select

| > was only really useful for tweaking purposes unless dealing with the

early

| > non locked processors, where one would or could change a 66mhz to

100mhz. or

| > perhaps 83mhz or something {or a 100 to 66}.. and stay away from the

Turbo

| > setting [make sure its Off or disabled]...

| > Don't think, however, that you have the correct speed for the CPU

unless

| > that is what it booted to before [or you know it for a fact]. I have had

| > several Intel CPUs which defaulted to slower speeds [properly shown as

| > Intel, but the BIOS thought they were a different CPU...] which had to

be

| > manually configured [for instance, this 733 which will default to a 450

| > {though that's because its a 133 FSB and BX boards default to 100

max.}].

| >

| > Again, the more you screw around with things in WINDOWS the more errors

you

| > will have if the CPU is wrong. It may try to boot, but each time VMM is

| > going to be removing drivers or reconfiguring causing all kinds of

errors...

| >

| > --

| > MEB

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > ________

| >

| > |

| > | "glee" wrote:

| > |

| > | > Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults"

for

| > the optimized

| > | > defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they

called

| > the "failsafe"

| > | > settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

| > | >

| > | > Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what

the

| > choices are

| > | > for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your

| > choices? Give

| > | > us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

| > | >

| > | > Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your

| > earlier posts.

| > | > You mention "atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only

mentioned

| > the first

| > | > file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing

according

| > to the

| > | > messages you receive at startup?

| > | > --

| > | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| > | >

| > | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

| > | > news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | > > Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

| > | > > Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so

we

| > can get the

| > | > > machine back in order.

| > | > > Glen stated:

| > | > > <quote>

| > | > > The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

Defaults".

| > | > > </quote>

| > | > >

| > | > > You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

| > | > >

| > | > > I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It

should

| > also show

| > | > > some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

| > | > > Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model

and

| > the CPU

| > | > > installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me

| > that the FSB

| > | > > may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to

match

| > the RAM

| > | > > to......

| > | > >

| > | > > Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out

to be

| > on the safe

| > | > > side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen

| > mentioned the

| > | > > CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare

| > occasions that

| > | > > one's different.

| > | > >

| > | > > --

| > | > >

| > | > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

| > | > > Conflicts start where information lacks.

| > | > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/

| > | > >

| > | > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

| > | > > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

| > | > >

| > | > > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

| > | > > news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

| > | > >> Hi Glen,

| > | > >> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the

| > correct

| > | > >> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the

same

| > | > >> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes

precedence,

| > the

| > | > >> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv,

etc)??

| > Should

| > | > >> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything??

Thanks

| > | > >> --

| > | > >> LJB

| > | > >>

| > | > >> "glee" wrote:

| > | > >>

| > | > >>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If

so,

| > when you did

| > | > >>> the

| > | > >>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized

Defaults...the

| > language may

| > | > >>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

| > Defaults".

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not

to

| > break the

| > | > >>> battery

| > | > >>> holder or its clips.

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most

common

| > is the

| > | > >>> CR2032

| > | > >>> Lithium battery.

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic

| > Discharge from your

| > | > >>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized

Defaults

| > in the BIOS

| > | > >>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being

| > shown, then Exit

| > | > >>> Saving Changes.

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

| > | > >>>

| >

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

| > | > >>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> How to replace the CMOS battery

| > | > >>>

| >

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> CMOS battery 2032

| > | > >>>

| >

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> --

| > | > >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| > | > >>>

| > | > >>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

| > | > >>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

| > | > >>> > Hi Glen,

| > | > >>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window

| > continues to

| > | > >>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

| > | > >>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find

the

| > battery for

| > | > >>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have

seen it

| > on the

| > | > >>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

| > | > >>> > --

| > | > >>> > LJB

| > | > >>> >

| > | > >>> > "glee" wrote:

| > | > >>> >

| > | > >>> >> Replies inline....

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

| > | > >>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

| > | > >>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that

has

| > Win98 SE as

| > | > >>> >> >the

| > | > >>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I

obviously

| > did something

| > | > >>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately

| > comes on:

| > | > >>> >> >

| > | > >>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please

recheck-CPU

| > SOFT MENU

| > | > >>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

| > | > >>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

| > | > >>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

| > | > >>> >> >

| > | > >>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but

there

| > is nothing

| > | > >>> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating

Speed

| > and power

| > | > >>> >> > supply.

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is

installed.

| > The Soft

| > | > >>> >> Menu

| > | > >>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like

your

| > CMOS battery

| > | > >>> >> may

| > | > >>> >> be

| > | > >>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option

to

| > Exit Saving

| > | > >>> >> Changes

| > | > >>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to

| > properly detect

| > | > >>> >> the

| > | > >>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or

optimized)

| > defaults in

| > | > >>> >> the

| > | > >>> >> BIOS setup.

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard

| > (usually a

| > | > >>> >> coin-type

| > | > >>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or

optimized)

| > defaults,

| > | > >>> >> save

| > | > >>> >> changes and exit.

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief

Windows

| > welcome

| > | > >>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

| > | > >>> >> >

| > | > >>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to

run

| > Windows or a

| > | > >>> >> > Widows application.

| > | > >>> >> >

| > | > >>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this

device

| > file, but

| > | > >>> >> > the device file no longer exists.

| > | > >>> >> >

| > | > >>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling

the

| > associated

| > | > >>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

| > | > >>> >> >

| > | > >>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with

this

| > device

| > | > >>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the

| > missing file.

| > | > >>> >> >

| > | > >>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a

NEC

| > printer

| > | > >>> >> driver

| > | > >>> >> file.

| > | > >>> >>

| > | > >>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC

printer

| > driver and

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Hi MEB,

Should I replace the battery which is a CR2032? There is a tight clip

holding it in place that will be challenge to extract the battery and

maintain the clip. I thought that since changing the CPU speed to 450/100

and the boot now not hanging up at the "unworkable CPU" line this would mean

there is not a battery problem?? I honestly don't know how the wrong CPU

speed got into the BIOS but will refrain from starting up Windows until

further help comes along from you or Brian and Glen. I guess they will pick

up the newer posts even though they are not at the end of the thread?

LJB

"MEB" wrote:

> Okay, you are hopefully, almost there...

>

> I'll let the original helpers or others work with you on the rest of the

> corrections.

>

> As a "heads up" on what they and you will be doing [DO NOT try ANYTHING

> until the full recovery plan is outlined] (Note specifically 3 and the

> HOWEVER below):

>

> 1. You will be returning ALL prior manual modifications to the original

> values [from DOS if possible].

>

> 2. You will be installing/returning to an older registry before the errors

> occurred [hopefully one is available].

>

> 3. You MAY be uninstalling and reinstalling some drivers, as you have

> *defaulted* the BIOS, which may not have been the original configuration

> [though with CMOS loss and/or battery replacement, much of that would likely

> have occurred anyway]. They will need to review aspects within the BIOS for

> correct settings [such as PNP OS, PCI assignments, AGP settings/memory, hard

> drive settings, Power Management, etc.], you will have to follow their

> advise EXACTLY.

>

> 4. You MAY be cleaning old entries from the registry [may have to use SAFE

> Mode prior to ANY normal boot].

>

> HOWEVER, as was originally suggested, the reason for this original hardware

> failure should be addressed FIRST, that being, the apparent need to replace

> your BIOS/CMOS battery. What you have accomplished with this CPU speed/FSB

> check/reset, is to ensure POST can occur without error. That seems to have

> been accomplished, but all will be lost the next time the power goes down,

> or the computer is unplugged, or a *brown out* or power fluctuation causes

> loss of CMOS...

> Again, please STOP trying to enter Windows, as EVERY time you do, it makes

> it infinitely more difficult to correct potential issues, and creates more

> [for instance: Windows may be REMOVING/deleting driver files]...

>

> For a review of battery replacement refer back to Glen's 11-19-2007 post

> [this discussion] related to such, and/or:

>

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/cmos_battery.htm

>

> Okay, guys I'll be *waiting in the wings* [PS. the BIOS settings are

> generally the same as would be for any Award BIOS].

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:FD155F9B-D0F3-4131-8044-D3D356F33E9E@microsoft.com...

> | Hi MEB,

> | I found your note buried in the rest of the notes and when I read

> | through it I went into the CMOS and changed the processor speed to

> 450/100.

> | Now when I boot up the error message "the computer is unworkable or has

> been

> | changed " no longer appears!!! And in order to get into the BIOS I must

> now

> | click DEL before the boot continues. Previously the computer would hang

> up

> | at "the computer is unworkable line" and sat there until I chose the next

> | step, either the DEL key to get to the BIOS or the F1 key that would take

> me

> | to this screen:

> |

> | "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

> | Widows application.

> |

> | The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

> | the device file no longer exists.

> |

> | If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

> | application using its uninstall or setup program.

> |

> | If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> | file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

> |

> | asivmsvc.vxd"

> |

> | However instead of having to click the F1 key to go further the computer

> now

> | boots directly to this screen (above) and then hangs up; and as before if

> I

> | hit any key a brief screen comes on that says "error loading

> lmouse.drv...you

> | must reinstall Windows". As you will note in my original note this error

> | message referred to the "atsmy.drv", now changed to "lmouse.drv".

> | Anyway changing the BIOS to the correct CPU speed has helped. In the

> | BIOS the CPU SOFT MENU line which is the first line as you know is still

> | outlined with exclamation marks fore and aft.

> | Thanks for the help. I guess the others will pick up this change and

> I

> | await further thoughts from everyone.

> |

> | Lew

> |

> | --

> | LJB

> |

> | "MEB" wrote:

> |

> | > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> | > news:1457DB46-C91B-4BC9-8823-2A61338A9AF8@microsoft.com...

> | > | I've reviewed the correspondence again and will attempt to provide the

> | > | additional information.

> | > | I previously stated that the BIOS (in CPU Soft Menu) correctly

> lists

> | > the

> | > | processor and I went back to this area to be certain. The processor

> is

> | > Intel

> | > | Pentium III 450 MHz MMX and that is what is listed in the soft menu.

> The

> | > CPU

> | > | Operating Speed however is only at 233 (66) and I don't know if that

> | > should

> | > | be 450 instead?? I doubt if this is a factor however??

> | > |

> | > | Lew

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | LJB

> | > |

> | >

> | > Just one more clarification, as I happen to be running the newer ABIT

> BH6

> | > Rev. 2 on one of these systems. SOFT MENU is the CPU/PCI/FSB setup area,

> NOT

> | > the area for normal BIOS setup. It will be shown [likely at the very

> top] as

> | > SOFT MENU, which you are to highlight and enter ....

> | >

> | > The processor speed and setup is crutial... IF you have a 450 mhz. CPU

> then

> | > it MUST Post as such [its not at 233]... In Soft Menu: check that the

> Front

> | > Side Bus [two defaults available - 450/66 or 450/100] is set correctly

> as

> | > you are presently at about half the supposed CPU speed [if actually a

> 450]

> | > at 233.

> | > This makes me think you have the 450/100, though it would be best to

> check

> | > with a DOS CPU test tool for the actual ID, or preferably by physical

> | > examination.

> | > Those LOCKED Intel processors would not *properly* boot unless

> identified

> | > accurately [or user defined] AND the FSB, AND PCI bus multiplier were

> all

> | > correct [or at least within a small overclock range]. The High/low

> select

> | > was only really useful for tweaking purposes unless dealing with the

> early

> | > non locked processors, where one would or could change a 66mhz to

> 100mhz. or

> | > perhaps 83mhz or something {or a 100 to 66}.. and stay away from the

> Turbo

> | > setting [make sure its Off or disabled]...

> | > Don't think, however, that you have the correct speed for the CPU

> unless

> | > that is what it booted to before [or you know it for a fact]. I have had

> | > several Intel CPUs which defaulted to slower speeds [properly shown as

> | > Intel, but the BIOS thought they were a different CPU...] which had to

> be

> | > manually configured [for instance, this 733 which will default to a 450

> | > {though that's because its a 133 FSB and BX boards default to 100

> max.}].

> | >

> | > Again, the more you screw around with things in WINDOWS the more errors

> you

> | > will have if the CPU is wrong. It may try to boot, but each time VMM is

> | > going to be removing drivers or reconfiguring causing all kinds of

> errors...

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB

> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > ________

> | >

> | > |

> | > | "glee" wrote:

> | > |

> | > | > Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults"

> for

> | > the optimized

> | > | > defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they

> called

> | > the "failsafe"

> | > | > settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

> | > | >

> | > | > Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what

> the

> | > choices are

> | > | > for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your

> | > choices? Give

> | > | > us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

> | > | >

> | > | > Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your

> | > earlier posts.

> | > | > You mention "atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only

> mentioned

> | > the first

> | > | > file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing

> according

> | > to the

> | > | > messages you receive at startup?

> | > | > --

> | > | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | > | >

> | > | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> | > | > news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | > > Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> | > | > > Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so

> we

> | > can get the

> | > | > > machine back in order.

> | > | > > Glen stated:

> | > | > > <quote>

> | > | > > The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

> Defaults".

> | > | > > </quote>

> | > | > >

> | > | > > You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

> | > | > >

> | > | > > I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It

> should

> | > also show

> | > | > > some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> | > | > > Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model

> and

> | > the CPU

> | > | > > installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me

> | > that the FSB

> | > | > > may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to

> match

> | > the RAM

> | > | > > to......

> | > | > >

> | > | > > Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out

> to be

> | > on the safe

> | > | > > side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen

> | > mentioned the

> | > | > > CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare

> | > occasions that

> | > | > > one's different.

> | > | > >

> | > | > > --

> | > | > >

> | > | > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> | > | > > Conflicts start where information lacks.

> | > | > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> | > | > >

> | > | > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> | > | > > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> | > | > >

> | > | > > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> | > | > > news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> | > | > >> Hi Glen,

> | > | > >> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the

> | > correct

> | > | > >> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the

> same

> | > | > >> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes

> precedence,

> | > the

> | > | > >> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv,

> etc)??

> | > Should

> | > | > >> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything??

> Thanks

> | > | > >> --

> | > | > >> LJB

> | > | > >>

> | > | > >> "glee" wrote:

> | > | > >>

> | > | > >>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If

> so,

> | > when you did

> | > | > >>> the

> | > | > >>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized

> Defaults...the

> | > language may

> | > | > >>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

> | > Defaults".

> | > | > >>>

> | > | > >>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eLWJGLzKIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:1457DB46-C91B-4BC9-8823-2A61338A9AF8@microsoft.com...

> | I've reviewed the correspondence again and will attempt to provide the

> | additional information.

> | I previously stated that the BIOS (in CPU Soft Menu) correctly lists

> the

> | processor and I went back to this area to be certain. The processor is

> Intel

> | Pentium III 450 MHz MMX and that is what is listed in the soft menu. The

> CPU

> | Operating Speed however is only at 233 (66) and I don't know if that

> should

> | be 450 instead?? I doubt if this is a factor however??

> |

> | Lew

> |

> | --

> | LJB

> |

>

> Just one more clarification, as I happen to be running the newer ABIT BH6

> Rev. 2 on one of these systems. SOFT MENU is the CPU/PCI/FSB setup area, NOT

> the area for normal BIOS setup. It will be shown [likely at the very top] as

> SOFT MENU, which you are to highlight and enter ....

>

> The processor speed and setup is crutial... IF you have a 450 mhz. CPU then

> it MUST Post as such [its not at 233]... In Soft Menu: check that the Front

> Side Bus [two defaults available - 450/66 or 450/100] is set correctly as

> you are presently at about half the supposed CPU speed [if actually a 450]

> at 233.

> This makes me think you have the 450/100, though it would be best to check

> with a DOS CPU test tool for the actual ID, or preferably by physical

> examination.

This helps somewhat confirm my suspicion as I mention in a response, now that I see

your mention of the 2 available defaults. If you know and for clarification, if the

FSB is set at (66) it is only runing at 2/3 of the total speed, correct? And

wouldn't that be dealing with the AGP?

> Those LOCKED Intel processors would not *properly* boot unless identified

> accurately [or user defined] AND the FSB, AND PCI bus multiplier were all

> correct [or at least within a small overclock range]. The High/low select

> was only really useful for tweaking purposes unless dealing with the early

> non locked processors, where one would or could change a 66mhz to 100mhz. or

> perhaps 83mhz or something {or a 100 to 66}.. and stay away from the Turbo

> setting [make sure its Off or disabled]...

If I believe correctly the high/low was for overclocking as I understand that board

was an overclockers dream.

I agree on the Turbo, from what I've read basically useless.

> Don't think, however, that you have the correct speed for the CPU unless

> that is what it booted to before [or you know it for a fact]. I have had

> several Intel CPUs which defaulted to slower speeds [properly shown as

> Intel, but the BIOS thought they were a different CPU...] which had to be

> manually configured [for instance, this 733 which will default to a 450

> {though that's because its a 133 FSB and BX boards default to 100 max.}].

>

> Again, the more you screw around with things in WINDOWS the more errors you

> will have if the CPU is wrong. It may try to boot, but each time VMM is

> going to be removing drivers or reconfiguring causing all kinds of errors...

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> |

> | "glee" wrote:

> |

> | > Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for

> the optimized

> | > defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called

> the "failsafe"

> | > settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

> | >

> | > Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the

> choices are

> | > for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your

> choices? Give

> | > us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

> | >

> | > Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your

> earlier posts.

> | > You mention "atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned

> the first

> | > file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according

> to the

> | > messages you receive at startup?

> | > --

> | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | >

> | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> | > news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > > Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> | > > Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we

> can get the

> | > > machine back in order.

> | > > Glen stated:

> | > > <quote>

> | > > The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> | > > </quote>

> | > >

> | > > You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

> | > >

> | > > I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should

> also show

> | > > some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> | > > Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and

> the CPU

> | > > installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me

> that the FSB

> | > > may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match

> the RAM

> | > > to......

> | > >

> | > > Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be

> on the safe

> | > > side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen

> mentioned the

> | > > CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare

> occasions that

> | > > one's different.

> | > >

> | > > --

> | > >

> | > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> | > > Conflicts start where information lacks.

> | > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> | > >

> | > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> | > > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> | > >

> | > > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> | > > news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> | > >> Hi Glen,

> | > >> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the

> correct

> | > >> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

> | > >> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence,

> the

> | > >> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

> Should

> | > >> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

> | > >> --

> | > >> LJB

> | > >>

> | > >> "glee" wrote:

> | > >>

> | > >>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so,

> when you did

> | > >>> the

> | > >>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

> language may

> | > >>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

> Defaults".

> | > >>>

> | > >>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to

> break the

> | > >>> battery

> | > >>> holder or its clips.

> | > >>>

> | > >>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common

> is the

> | > >>> CR2032

> | > >>> Lithium battery.

> | > >>>

> | > >>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

> | > >>>

> | > >>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic

> Discharge from your

> | > >>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

> | > >>>

> | > >>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults

> in the BIOS

> | > >>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being

> shown, then Exit

> | > >>> Saving Changes.

> | > >>>

> | > >>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

> | > >>>

> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

> | > >>>

> | > >>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

> | > >>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

> | > >>>

> | > >>> How to replace the CMOS battery

> | > >>>

> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

> | > >>>

> | > >>> CMOS battery 2032

> | > >>>

> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

> | > >>>

> | > >>> --

> | > >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | > >>>

> | > >>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> | > >>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

> | > >>> > Hi Glen,

> | > >>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window

> continues to

> | > >>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

> | > >>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the

> battery for

> | > >>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it

> on the

> | > >>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

> | > >>> > --

> | > >>> > LJB

> | > >>> >

> | > >>> > "glee" wrote:

> | > >>> >

> | > >>> >> Replies inline....

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> | > >>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> | > >>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has

> Win98 SE as

> | > >>> >> >the

> | > >>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously

> did something

> | > >>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately

> comes on:

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU

> SOFT MENU

> | > >>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> | > >>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> | > >>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there

> is nothing

> | > >>> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed

> and power

> | > >>> >> > supply.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed.

> The Soft

> | > >>> >> Menu

> | > >>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your

> CMOS battery

> | > >>> >> may

> | > >>> >> be

> | > >>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to

> Exit Saving

> | > >>> >> Changes

> | > >>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to

> properly detect

> | > >>> >> the

> | > >>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized)

> defaults in

> | > >>> >> the

> | > >>> >> BIOS setup.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard

> (usually a

> | > >>> >> coin-type

> | > >>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized)

> defaults,

> | > >>> >> save

> | > >>> >> changes and exit.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows

> welcome

> | > >>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run

> Windows or a

> | > >>> >> > Widows application.

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device

> file, but

> | > >>> >> > the device file no longer exists.

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the

> associated

> | > >>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this

> device

> | > >>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the

> missing file.

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC

> printer

> | > >>> >> driver

> | > >>> >> file.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer

> driver and

> | > >>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support

> site. If you

> | > >>> >> no

> | > >>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it

> you can

> | > >>> >> correctly

> | > >>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall

> shortcut on the NEC

> | > >>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the

> printer from the

> | > >>> >> Printers control panel.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so

> it is not

> | > >>> >> critical

> | > >>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled

> first. See

> | > >>> >> Brian's

> | > >>> >> reply for the atmsys error.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able

> to catch it

> | > >>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode,

> with Notepad or

> | > >>> >> Sysedit.

> | > >>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

> | > >>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

> | > >>> >> to

> | > >>> >> system.drv=system.drv

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen

> that allows

> | > >>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers

> here and I

> | > >>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode

> and tried

> | > >>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

> | > >>> >> >

> | > >>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the

> system does not

> | > >>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded

> piece but I

> | > >>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>> >> --

> | > >>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | > >>> >>

> | > >>>

> | > >

> | >

>

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

> Hi Brian and Glen,

> Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

> does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

> message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and it

> boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

> file........asivmscv.vxd".

>

> Lew

> --

> LJB

Missing .vxd files:

Error Message: Cannot Find a Device File That May Be Needed to Run Windows

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q132008

Err Msg: Cannot Find a Device File That May Be Needed to Run...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q166832

”Unable to Load the Dynamic Link Library” Error Message When You Install Drivers or

Utilities

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q302590

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "Brian A." wrote:

>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Brian,

>> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I

>> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

>> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

>>

>> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to find

>> the

>> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

>>

>> >

>> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done

>> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

>> >

>> > Lew

>>

>> --

>>

>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>>

>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >

>> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get

>> >> the

>> >> machine back in order.

>> >> Glen stated:

>> >> <quote>

>> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> </quote>

>> >>

>> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>> >>

>> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also

>> >> show

>> >> some

>> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

>> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB

>> >> may

>> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

>> >> to......

>> >>

>> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the

>> >> safe

>> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the

>> >> CR2032

>> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that one's

>> >> different.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >>

>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

>> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

>> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should

>> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >> >

>> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you

>> >> >> did

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language

>> >> >> may

>> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

>> >> >> battery

>> >> >> holder or its clips.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the

>> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> Lithium battery.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from

>> >> >> your

>> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the

>> >> >> BIOS

>> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then

>> >> >> Exit

>> >> >> Saving Changes.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>> >> >>

>> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>> >> >>

>> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

>> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>> >> >>

>> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

>> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery

>> >> >> > for

>> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

>> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> Replies inline....

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE

>> >> >> >> >as

>> >> >> >> >the

>> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

>> >> >> >> > something

>> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

>> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is

>> >> >> >> > nothing

>> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>> >> >> >> > supply.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The

>> >> >> >> Soft

>> >> >> >> Menu

>> >> >> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS

>> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> be

>> >> >> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit

>> >> >> >> Saving

>> >> >> >> Changes

>> >> >> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly

>> >> >> >> detect

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults

>> >> >> >> in

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> BIOS setup.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

>> >> >> >> coin-type

>> >> >> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized)

>> >> >> >> defaults,

>> >> >> >> save

>> >> >> >> changes and exit.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

>> >> >> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or

>> >> >> >> > a

>> >> >> >> > Widows application.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file,

>> >> >> >> > but

>> >> >> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the

>> >> >> >> > associated

>> >> >> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>> >> >> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing

>> >> >> >> > file.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer

>> >> >> >> driver

>> >> >> >> file.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver

>> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If

>> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> no

>> >> >> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

>> >> >> >> correctly

>> >> >> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the

>> >> >> >> NEC

>> >> >> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> Printers control panel.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

>> >> >> >> critical

>> >> >> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See

>> >> >> >> Brian's

>> >> >> >> reply for the atmsys error.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to

>> >> >> >> > catch

>> >> >> >> > it

>> >> >> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with

>> >> >> >> Notepad

>> >> >> >> or

>> >> >> >> Sysedit.

>> >> >> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

>> >> >> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> system.drv=system.drv

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that

>> >> >> >> > allows

>> >> >> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and

>> >> >> >> > I

>> >> >> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>> >> >> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does

>> >> >> >> > not

>> >> >> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I

>> >> >> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the Soft

Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the 233/66

setting instead of the 450/100.

You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's the cause

of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if it is

weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the computer OFF

for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after the

system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also the date

will be off....usually slow.

Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not the Soft

Menu)?

Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an NEC

SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers installed,

you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed, you

need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the NEC

SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other pointing

device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse, you need

to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

> Hi Brian and Glen,

> Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

> does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

> message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and it

> boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

> file........asivmscv.vxd".

>

> Lew

> --

> LJB

>

> "Brian A." wrote:

>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Brian,

>> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I

>> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

>> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

>>

>> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to find

>> the

>> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

>>

>> >

>> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done

>> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

>> >

>> > Lew

>>

>> --

>>

>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>>

>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >

>> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get

>> >> the

>> >> machine back in order.

>> >> Glen stated:

>> >> <quote>

>> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> </quote>

>> >>

>> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>> >>

>> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also

>> >> show

>> >> some

>> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

>> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the

>> >> FSB

>> >> may

>> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

>> >> to......

>> >>

>> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the

>> >> safe

>> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the

>> >> CR2032

>> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that one's

>> >> different.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >>

>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

>> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

>> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

>> >> > Should

>> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >> >

>> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you

>> >> >> did

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

>> >> >> language

>> >> >> may

>> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

>> >> >> battery

>> >> >> holder or its clips.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the

>> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> Lithium battery.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from

>> >> >> your

>> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the

>> >> >> BIOS

>> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then

>> >> >> Exit

>> >> >> Saving Changes.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>> >> >>

>> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>> >> >>

>> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

>> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>> >> >>

>> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

>> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery

>> >> >> > for

>> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

>> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> Replies inline....

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE

>> >> >> >> >as

>> >> >> >> >the

>> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

>> >> >> >> > something

>> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT

>> >> >> >> > MENU

>> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is

>> >> >> >> > nothing

>> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

>> >> >> >> > supply.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The

>> >> >> >> Soft

>> >> >> >> Menu

>> >> >> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS

>> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> be

>> >> >> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit

>> >> >> >> Saving

>> >> >> >> Changes

>> >> >> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly

>> >> >> >> detect

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized)

>> >> >> >> defaults in

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> BIOS setup.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

>> >> >> >> coin-type

>> >> >> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized)

>> >> >> >> defaults,

>> >> >> >> save

>> >> >> >> changes and exit.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows

>> >> >> >> > welcome

>> >> >> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows

>> >> >> >> > or a

>> >> >> >> > Widows application.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file,

>> >> >> >> > but

>> >> >> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the

>> >> >> >> > associated

>> >> >> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>> >> >> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing

>> >> >> >> > file.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC

>> >> >> >> printer

>> >> >> >> driver

>> >> >> >> file.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver

>> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site.

>> >> >> >> If

>> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> no

>> >> >> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you

>> >> >> >> can

>> >> >> >> correctly

>> >> >> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> NEC

>> >> >> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> Printers control panel.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is

>> >> >> >> not

>> >> >> >> critical

>> >> >> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See

>> >> >> >> Brian's

>> >> >> >> reply for the atmsys error.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to

>> >> >> >> > catch

>> >> >> >> > it

>> >> >> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with

>> >> >> >> Notepad

>> >> >> >> or

>> >> >> >> Sysedit.

>> >> >> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

>> >> >> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> system.drv=system.drv

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that

>> >> >> >> > allows

>> >> >> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here

>> >> >> >> > and I

>> >> >> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried

>> >> >> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does

>> >> >> >> > not

>> >> >> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but

>> >> >> >> > I

>> >> >> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

You probably need to replace the battery after the number of years it has been in

use. If you are worried about breaking the retaining clip, you can always take it

to a reputable local shop to have the battery installed. See my other reply.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:7FC60CBA-9AA1-499E-9D70-200CF0A6DE06@microsoft.com...

> Hi MEB,

> Should I replace the battery which is a CR2032? There is a tight clip

> holding it in place that will be challenge to extract the battery and

> maintain the clip. I thought that since changing the CPU speed to 450/100

> and the boot now not hanging up at the "unworkable CPU" line this would mean

> there is not a battery problem?? I honestly don't know how the wrong CPU

> speed got into the BIOS but will refrain from starting up Windows until

> further help comes along from you or Brian and Glen. I guess they will pick

> up the newer posts even though they are not at the end of the thread?

> LJB

>

> "MEB" wrote:

>

>> Okay, you are hopefully, almost there...

>>

>> I'll let the original helpers or others work with you on the rest of the

>> corrections.

>>

>> As a "heads up" on what they and you will be doing [DO NOT try ANYTHING

>> until the full recovery plan is outlined] (Note specifically 3 and the

>> HOWEVER below):

>>

>> 1. You will be returning ALL prior manual modifications to the original

>> values [from DOS if possible].

>>

>> 2. You will be installing/returning to an older registry before the errors

>> occurred [hopefully one is available].

>>

>> 3. You MAY be uninstalling and reinstalling some drivers, as you have

>> *defaulted* the BIOS, which may not have been the original configuration

>> [though with CMOS loss and/or battery replacement, much of that would likely

>> have occurred anyway]. They will need to review aspects within the BIOS for

>> correct settings [such as PNP OS, PCI assignments, AGP settings/memory, hard

>> drive settings, Power Management, etc.], you will have to follow their

>> advise EXACTLY.

>>

>> 4. You MAY be cleaning old entries from the registry [may have to use SAFE

>> Mode prior to ANY normal boot].

>>

>> HOWEVER, as was originally suggested, the reason for this original hardware

>> failure should be addressed FIRST, that being, the apparent need to replace

>> your BIOS/CMOS battery. What you have accomplished with this CPU speed/FSB

>> check/reset, is to ensure POST can occur without error. That seems to have

>> been accomplished, but all will be lost the next time the power goes down,

>> or the computer is unplugged, or a *brown out* or power fluctuation causes

>> loss of CMOS...

>> Again, please STOP trying to enter Windows, as EVERY time you do, it makes

>> it infinitely more difficult to correct potential issues, and creates more

>> [for instance: Windows may be REMOVING/deleting driver files]...

>>

>> For a review of battery replacement refer back to Glen's 11-19-2007 post

>> [this discussion] related to such, and/or:

>>

>> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/cmos_battery.htm

>>

>> Okay, guys I'll be *waiting in the wings* [PS. the BIOS settings are

>> generally the same as would be for any Award BIOS].

>>

>> --

>> MEB

>> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> ________

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:FD155F9B-D0F3-4131-8044-D3D356F33E9E@microsoft.com...

>> | Hi MEB,

>> | I found your note buried in the rest of the notes and when I read

>> | through it I went into the CMOS and changed the processor speed to

>> 450/100.

>> | Now when I boot up the error message "the computer is unworkable or has

>> been

>> | changed " no longer appears!!! And in order to get into the BIOS I must

>> now

>> | click DEL before the boot continues. Previously the computer would hang

>> up

>> | at "the computer is unworkable line" and sat there until I chose the next

>> | step, either the DEL key to get to the BIOS or the F1 key that would take

>> me

>> | to this screen:

>> |

>> | "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a

>> | Widows application.

>> |

>> | The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but

>> | the device file no longer exists.

>> |

>> | If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated

>> | application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> |

>> | If you still want to use the application associated with this device

>> | file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

>> |

>> | asivmsvc.vxd"

>> |

>> | However instead of having to click the F1 key to go further the computer

>> now

>> | boots directly to this screen (above) and then hangs up; and as before if

>> I

>> | hit any key a brief screen comes on that says "error loading

>> lmouse.drv...you

>> | must reinstall Windows". As you will note in my original note this error

>> | message referred to the "atsmy.drv", now changed to "lmouse.drv".

>> | Anyway changing the BIOS to the correct CPU speed has helped. In the

>> | BIOS the CPU SOFT MENU line which is the first line as you know is still

>> | outlined with exclamation marks fore and aft.

>> | Thanks for the help. I guess the others will pick up this change and

>> I

>> | await further thoughts from everyone.

>> |

>> | Lew

>> |

>> | --

>> | LJB

>> |

>> | "MEB" wrote:

>> |

>> | > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> | > news:1457DB46-C91B-4BC9-8823-2A61338A9AF8@microsoft.com...

>> | > | I've reviewed the correspondence again and will attempt to provide the

>> | > | additional information.

>> | > | I previously stated that the BIOS (in CPU Soft Menu) correctly

>> lists

>> | > the

>> | > | processor and I went back to this area to be certain. The processor

>> is

>> | > Intel

>> | > | Pentium III 450 MHz MMX and that is what is listed in the soft menu.

>> The

>> | > CPU

>> | > | Operating Speed however is only at 233 (66) and I don't know if that

>> | > should

>> | > | be 450 instead?? I doubt if this is a factor however??

>> | > |

>> | > | Lew

>> | > |

>> | > | --

>> | > | LJB

>> | > |

>> | >

>> | > Just one more clarification, as I happen to be running the newer ABIT

>> BH6

>> | > Rev. 2 on one of these systems. SOFT MENU is the CPU/PCI/FSB setup area,

>> NOT

>> | > the area for normal BIOS setup. It will be shown [likely at the very

>> top] as

>> | > SOFT MENU, which you are to highlight and enter ....

>> | >

>> | > The processor speed and setup is crutial... IF you have a 450 mhz. CPU

>> then

>> | > it MUST Post as such [its not at 233]... In Soft Menu: check that the

>> Front

>> | > Side Bus [two defaults available - 450/66 or 450/100] is set correctly

>> as

>> | > you are presently at about half the supposed CPU speed [if actually a

>> 450]

>> | > at 233.

>> | > This makes me think you have the 450/100, though it would be best to

>> check

>> | > with a DOS CPU test tool for the actual ID, or preferably by physical

>> | > examination.

>> | > Those LOCKED Intel processors would not *properly* boot unless

>> identified

>> | > accurately [or user defined] AND the FSB, AND PCI bus multiplier were

>> all

>> | > correct [or at least within a small overclock range]. The High/low

>> select

>> | > was only really useful for tweaking purposes unless dealing with the

>> early

>> | > non locked processors, where one would or could change a 66mhz to

>> 100mhz. or

>> | > perhaps 83mhz or something {or a 100 to 66}.. and stay away from the

>> Turbo

>> | > setting [make sure its Off or disabled]...

>> | > Don't think, however, that you have the correct speed for the CPU

>> unless

>> | > that is what it booted to before [or you know it for a fact]. I have had

>> | > several Intel CPUs which defaulted to slower speeds [properly shown as

>> | > Intel, but the BIOS thought they were a different CPU...] which had to

>> be

>> | > manually configured [for instance, this 733 which will default to a 450

>> | > {though that's because its a 133 FSB and BX boards default to 100

>> max.}].

>> | >

>> | > Again, the more you screw around with things in WINDOWS the more errors

>> you

>> | > will have if the CPU is wrong. It may try to boot, but each time VMM is

>> | > going to be removing drivers or reconfiguring causing all kinds of

>> errors...

>> | >

>> | > --

>> | > MEB

>> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> | > ________

>> | >

>> | > |

>> | > | "glee" wrote:

>> | > |

>> | > | > Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults"

>> for

>> | > the optimized

>> | > | > defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they

>> called

>> | > the "failsafe"

>> | > | > settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

>> | > | >

>> | > | > Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what

>> the

>> | > choices are

>> | > | > for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your

>> | > choices? Give

>> | > | > us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

>> | > | >

>> | > | > Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your

>> | > earlier posts.

>> | > | > You mention "atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only

>> mentioned

>> | > the first

>> | > | > file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing

>> according

>> | > to the

>> | > | > messages you receive at startup?

>> | > | > --

>> | > | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> | > | >

>> | > | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

>> | > | > news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> | > | > > Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> | > | > > Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so

>> we

>> | > can get the

>> | > | > > machine back in order.

>> | > | > > Glen stated:

>> | > | > > <quote>

>> | > | > > The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

>> Defaults".

>> | > | > > </quote>

>> | > | > >

>> | > | > > You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>> | > | > >

>> | > | > > I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It

>> should

>> | > also show

>> | > | > > some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> | > | > > Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model

>> and

>> | > the CPU

>> | > | > > installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me

>> | > that the FSB

>> | > | > > may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to

>> match

>> | > the RAM

>> | > | > > to......

>> | > | > >

>> | > | > > Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out

>> to be

>> | > on the safe

>> | > | > > side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen

>> | > mentioned the

>> | > | > > CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare

>> | > occasions that

>> | > | > > one's different.

>> | > | > >

>> | > | > > --

>> | > | > >

>> | > | > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> | > | > > Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> | > | > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> | > | > >

>> | > | > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> | > | > > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> | > | > >

>> | > | > > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> | > | > > news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> | > | > >> Hi Glen,

>> | > | > >> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the

>> | > correct

>> | > | > >> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the

>> same

>> | > | > >> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes

>> precedence,

>> | > the

>> | > | > >> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv,

>> etc)??

>> | > Should

>> | > | > >> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything??

>> Thanks

>> | > | > >> --

>> | > | > >> LJB

>> | > | > >>

>> | > | > >> "glee" wrote:

>> | > | > >>

>> | > | > >>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If

>> so,

>> | > when you did

>> | > | > >>> the

>> | > | > >>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized

>> Defaults...the

>> | > language may

>> | > | > >>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

>> | > Defaults".

>> | > | > >>>

>> | > | > >>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Hi Brian,

I had previously seen article 132008 which is the only one that seems to

refer to the "asivmsvc.vxd" file. I don't recall doing anything that would

relate to resolution #1 in the article. Resolution #2 does not fit either

since there is no missing device driver with a .386 extension.

I would be perfectly happy to reinstall Windows 98 (I have the CD) if I

could because I have most of the data stored on an older Orb backup disc and

could restore from there. However in Safe Mode my CD-ROM drive is not

recognized by the computer although the light goes on and in Device Manager

it is correctly listed.

I hope we are not at an impasse especially since there was some progress

made by changing the CPU speed and thereby removing one of the errors on

boot.

LJB

--

LJB

"Brian A." wrote:

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Brian and Glen,

> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and it

> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

> >

> > Lew

> > --

> > LJB

>

> Missing .vxd files:

> Error Message: Cannot Find a Device File That May Be Needed to Run Windows

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q132008

>

> Err Msg: Cannot Find a Device File That May Be Needed to Run...

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q166832

>

> ”Unable to Load the Dynamic Link Library” Error Message When You Install Drivers or

> Utilities

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q302590

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> >

> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi Brian,

> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I

> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

> >>

> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to find

> >> the

> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done

> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

> >> >

> >> > Lew

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >>

> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >> >

> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get

> >> >> the

> >> >> machine back in order.

> >> >> Glen stated:

> >> >> <quote>

> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >> >> </quote>

> >> >>

> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

> >> >>

> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also

> >> >> show

> >> >> some

> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB

> >> >> may

> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

> >> >> to......

> >> >>

> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the

> >> >> safe

> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the

> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that one's

> >> >> different.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >>

> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >>

> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >>

> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should

> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

> >> >> > --

> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you

> >> >> >> did

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language

> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

> >> >> >> battery

> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the

> >> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from

> >> >> >> your

> >> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the

> >> >> >> BIOS

> >> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then

> >> >> >> Exit

> >> >> >> Saving Changes.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

> >> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

> >> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

> >> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

> >> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues

> >> >> >> > to

> >> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

> >> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery

> >> >> >> > for

> >> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

> >> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> Replies inline....

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE

> >> >> >> >> >as

> >> >> >> >> >the

> >> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

> >> >> >> >> > something

> >> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU

> >> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> >> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> >> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is

> >> >> >> >> > nothing

> >> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> >> >> >> >> > supply.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The

> >> >> >> >> Soft

> >> >> >> >> Menu

> >> >> >> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS

> >> >> >> >> battery

> >> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> >> be

> >> >> >> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit

> >> >> >> >> Saving

> >> >> >> >> Changes

> >> >> >> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly

> >> >> >> >> detect

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults

> >> >> >> >> in

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> BIOS setup.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

> >> >> >> >> coin-type

> >> >> >> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized)

> >> >> >> >> defaults,

> >> >> >> >> save

> >> >> >> >> changes and exit.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome

> >> >> >> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or

> >> >> >> >> > a

> >> >> >> >> > Widows application.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file,

> >> >> >> >> > but

> >> >> >> >> > the device file no longer exists.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the

> >> >> >> >> > associated

> >> >> >> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> >> >> >> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing

> >> >> >> >> > file.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer

> >> >> >> >> driver

> >> >> >> >> file.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver

> >> >> >> >> and

> >> >> >> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If

> >> >> >> >> you

> >> >> >> >> no

> >> >> >> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can

> >> >> >> >> correctly

> >> >> >> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the

> >> >> >> >> NEC

> >> >> >> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> Printers control panel.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not

> >> >> >> >> critical

> >> >> >> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See

> >> >> >> >> Brian's

> >> >> >> >> reply for the atmsys error.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to

> >> >> >> >> > catch

> >> >> >> >> > it

> >> >> >> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with

> >> >> >> >> Notepad

> >> >> >> >> or

> >> >> >> >> Sysedit.

> >> >> >> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:

> >> >> >> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv

> >> >> >> >> to

> >> >> >> >> system.drv=system.drv

> >> >> >> >>

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

well I thought I was outa here but:::

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

news:eyhknk$KIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:eLWJGLzKIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

| > news:1457DB46-C91B-4BC9-8823-2A61338A9AF8@microsoft.com...

| > | I've reviewed the correspondence again and will attempt to provide the

| > | additional information.

| > | I previously stated that the BIOS (in CPU Soft Menu) correctly

lists

| > the

| > | processor and I went back to this area to be certain. The processor

is

| > Intel

| > | Pentium III 450 MHz MMX and that is what is listed in the soft menu.

The

| > CPU

| > | Operating Speed however is only at 233 (66) and I don't know if that

| > should

| > | be 450 instead?? I doubt if this is a factor however??

| > |

| > | Lew

| > |

| > | --

| > | LJB

| > |

| >

| > Just one more clarification, as I happen to be running the newer ABIT

BH6

| > Rev. 2 on one of these systems. SOFT MENU is the CPU/PCI/FSB setup area,

NOT

| > the area for normal BIOS setup. It will be shown [likely at the very

top] as

| > SOFT MENU, which you are to highlight and enter ....

| >

| > The processor speed and setup is crucial... IF you have a 450 mhz. CPU

then

| > it MUST Post as such [its not at 233]... In Soft Menu: check that the

Front

| > Side Bus [two defaults available - 450/66 or 450/100] is set correctly

as

| > you are presently at about half the supposed CPU speed [if actually a

450]

| > at 233.

| > This makes me think you have the 450/100, though it would be best to

check

| > with a DOS CPU test tool for the actual ID, or preferably by physical

| > examination.

|

| This helps somewhat confirm my suspicion as I mention in a response, now

that I see

| your mention of the 2 available defaults. If you know and for

clarification, if the

| FSB is set at (66) it is only running at 2/3 of the total speed, correct?

And

| wouldn't that be dealing with the AGP?

Works for both PCI and AGP. If one used the board in an overclock attempt

[user defined - non-default], one could not only change the CPU multiplier

[if not locked] and FSB, but also the BUS multipliers as well. Using either

1/1 or 2/3 for AGP {where 2/3 meant *CPU bus speed* divided by 3 times 2 -

1/1 used only with 66FSB AND AGP card at 66MHz {AGP 1.0 - 2x 4x}} as well as

the PCI. The limitation, as I'm sure you know, are the PCI cards installed

and whether they could also be overclocked, e.g., run at a faster frequency.

For instance, various PCI clocks may be offered {1/2; 1/3; 1/4} for a given

*Front Side Bus* speed.

A good example, given in the ABIT manual, explained it fairly well: "when

you select 117MHz (1/3) it means the PCI clock is 39MHz. If you set it to

117MHz (1/4) the PCI clock is 29MHz." So if the PCI card flaked out at the

faster clock, drop it back and it should work.

For instance: the PNY 5500FX PCI on a 133MHz FSB is set at 1/4 to give it

the 33MHz PCI standard [my present video card, it would work at 44 but the

other PCI cards can't].

These with the inclusion of USER defined soft set CPU core voltage,

provided just about everything a tweaker of that era needed in one menu. No

need to jumper anything. All in all, a pretty decent INTEL 440BX based

board.

|

| > Those LOCKED Intel processors would not *properly* boot unless

identified

| > accurately [or user defined] AND the FSB, AND PCI bus multiplier were

all

| > correct [or at least within a small overclock range]. The High/low

select

| > was only really useful for tweaking purposes unless dealing with the

early

| > non locked processors, where one would or could change a 66mhz to

100mhz. or

| > perhaps 83mhz or something {or a 100 to 66}.. and stay away from the

Turbo

| > setting [make sure its Off or disabled]...

|

| If I believe correctly the high/low was for overclocking as I understand

that board

| was an overclockers dream.

For its day... considering this board has run 24/7/365 [save for a month or

so] and ALWAYS in some overclocked mode since I bought it, I think it could

be safely said it was an overclocker's dream. Add in that for awhile it was

running cyclic Winstone/WinBench and 3dMark tests [while overclocked] for

application, video, and hard drive results, and I must admit, I have been

rather amazed. Killed a few video cards, a processor, a power supply, and

some memory chips, but the board still chugs along [knock on wood].

In comparison, the FIC Super7 [also once a prime overclockers board] is

still running, but an Elpina, Epox, Gigabit, and a couple others fried like

chickens.

And yes you are correct, either your board had the high/low 66/100 signal

soft set or you were taping off a CPU slot1 stripe, or scraping one away, or

some other modification to bypass the CPU limitor {before in chip locks-

shut off of the high/low select signal}.

| I agree on the Turbo, from what I've read basically useless.

Yeah, it tweaks EVERYTHING up 2.5% all at one time [on the ABIT boards],,,

AGP, voltages, etc... not a good idea for any length of time. Of course its

a built in tester,, think your CPU is getting flaky,, turbo it ... think a

capacitor is about to blow, turbo it ... just make sure you remove your PCI

cards first... and use DOS or some other OS tools for the tests

Anyway,, think we've taken up enough space in the thread, and there's a

computer to be fixed ;&. uhm just ask for ideas ... nothing works better

than a "clean boot" for the brain ...

|

| > Don't think, however, that you have the correct speed for the CPU unless

| > that is what it booted to before [or you know it for a fact]. I have had

| > several Intel CPUs which defaulted to slower speeds [properly shown as

| > Intel, but the BIOS thought they were a different CPU...] which had to

be

| > manually configured [for instance, this 733 which will default to a 450

| > {though that's because its a 133 FSB and BX boards default to 100

max.}].

| >

| > Again, the more you screw around with things in WINDOWS the more errors

you

| > will have if the CPU is wrong. It may try to boot, but each time VMM is

| > going to be removing drivers or reconfiguring causing all kinds of

errors...

| >

| > --

| > MEB

| > ________

|

| --

|

| Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

| Conflicts start where information lacks.

| http://basconotw.mvps.org/

|

| Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

| How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

|

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

November 21, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Thanks for the clarification and now onto....

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

November 23, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Hi Glen,

I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

display. I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

state.

I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret?? Hope you all

had a good Thanksgiving.

Lew

A

--

LJB

"glee" wrote:

> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the Soft

> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the 233/66

> setting instead of the 450/100.

>

> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's the cause

> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if it is

> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the computer OFF

> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after the

> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also the date

> will be off....usually slow.

>

> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

>

> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not the Soft

> Menu)?

>

> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an NEC

> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers installed,

> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed, you

> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the NEC

> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

>

> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other pointing

> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse, you need

> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

>

> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

>

> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

>

> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Brian and Glen,

> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and it

> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

> >

> > Lew

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi Brian,

> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I

> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

> >>

> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to find

> >> the

> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done

> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

> >> >

> >> > Lew

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >>

> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >> >

> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get

> >> >> the

> >> >> machine back in order.

> >> >> Glen stated:

> >> >> <quote>

> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >> >> </quote>

> >> >>

> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

> >> >>

> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also

> >> >> show

> >> >> some

> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the

> >> >> FSB

> >> >> may

> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

> >> >> to......

> >> >>

> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the

> >> >> safe

> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the

> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that one's

> >> >> different.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >>

> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >>

> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >>

> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

> >> >> > Should

> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

> >> >> > --

> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you

> >> >> >> did

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

> >> >> >> language

> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the

> >> >> >> battery

> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the

> >> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from

> >> >> >> your

> >> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the

> >> >> >> BIOS

> >> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then

> >> >> >> Exit

> >> >> >> Saving Changes.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

> >> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

> >> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

> >> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

> >> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues

> >> >> >> > to

> >> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

> >> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery

> >> >> >> > for

> >> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the

> >> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> Replies inline....

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE

> >> >> >> >> >as

> >> >> >> >> >the

> >> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

> >> >> >> >> > something

> >> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT

> >> >> >> >> > MENU

> >> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> >> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> >> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is

> >> >> >> >> > nothing

> >> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and power

> >> >> >> >> > supply.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The

> >> >> >> >> Soft

> >> >> >> >> Menu

> >> >> >> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS

> >> >> >> >> battery

> >> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> >> be

> >> >> >> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit

> >> >> >> >> Saving

> >> >> >> >> Changes

> >> >> >> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly

> >> >> >> >> detect

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized)

> >> >> >> >> defaults in

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> BIOS setup.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

> >> >> >> >> coin-type

> >> >> >> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized)

> >> >> >> >> defaults,

> >> >> >> >> save

> >> >> >> >> changes and exit.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows

> >> >> >> >> > welcome

> >> >> >> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows

> >> >> >> >> > or a

> >> >> >> >> > Widows application.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file,

> >> >> >> >> > but

> >> >> >> >> > the device file no longer exists.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the

> >> >> >> >> > associated

> >> >> >> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device

> >> >> >> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing

> >> >> >> >> > file.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC

> >> >> >> >> printer

> >> >> >> >> driver

> >> >> >> >> file.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver

> >> >> >> >> and

> >> >> >> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site.

> >> >> >> >> If

> >> >> >> >> you

> >> >> >> >> no

> >> >> >> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you

> >> >> >> >> can

> >> >> >> >> correctly

> >> >> >> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> NEC

> >> >> >> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> Printers control panel.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is

> >> >> >> >> not

November 24, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Glad things are working for you.

Re: you last question....the secret is to NOT use the crappy web forum interface to

read and post questions and replies. Use Outlook Express as a newsgroup reader, or

some other third-party newsreader.

How to set up Outlook Express (OE) as a newsreader program to access the Microsoft

forums:

http://www.rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/resources/communities.htm#setupmsnews

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:CB649FE7-D0D1-4B88-9072-A838559D8911@microsoft.com...

> Hi Glen,

> I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

> and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

> through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

> I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

> some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

> display. I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

> floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

> again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

> recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

> to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

> helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

> state.

> I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

> checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

> anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

> saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

> and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret?? Hope you all

> had a good Thanksgiving.

> Lew

>

> A

>

> --

> LJB

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the Soft

>> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the 233/66

>> setting instead of the 450/100.

>>

>> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's the

>> cause

>> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if it is

>> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the computer

>> OFF

>> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after the

>> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also the

>> date

>> will be off....usually slow.

>>

>> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

>>

>> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not the

>> Soft

>> Menu)?

>>

>> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an NEC

>> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers installed,

>> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed, you

>> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the NEC

>> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

>>

>> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other

>> pointing

>> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse, you

>> need

>> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

>>

>> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

>>

>> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

>>

>> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Brian and Glen,

>> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

>> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

>> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and it

>> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

>> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

>> >

>> > Lew

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi Brian,

>> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I

>> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

>> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

>> >>

>> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to

>> >> find

>> >> the

>> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done

>> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

>> >> >

>> >> > Lew

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >>

>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >> >

>> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can

>> >> >> get

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> machine back in order.

>> >> >> Glen stated:

>> >> >> <quote>

>> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> >> </quote>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also

>> >> >> show

>> >> >> some

>> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the

>> >> >> CPU

>> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the

>> >> >> FSB

>> >> >> may

>> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

>> >> >> to......

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> safe

>> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

>> >> >> one's

>> >> >> different.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

>> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

>> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

>> >> >> > Should

>> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when

>> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> did

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

>> >> >> >> language

>> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

>> >> >> >> Defaults".

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> from

>> >> >> >> your

>> >> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> BIOS

>> >> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown,

>> >> >> >> then

>> >> >> >> Exit

>> >> >> >> Saving Changes.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

>> >> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

>> >> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window

>> >> >> >> > continues

>> >> >> >> > to

>> >> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>> >> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the

>> >> >> >> > battery

>> >> >> >> > for

>> >> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on

>> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> Replies inline....

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98

>> >> >> >> >> >SE

>> >> >> >> >> >as

>> >> >> >> >> >the

>> >> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

>> >> >> >> >> > something

>> >> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes

>> >> >> >> >> > on:

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT

>> >> >> >> >> > MENU

>> >> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> >> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> >> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is

>> >> >> >> >> > nothing

>> >> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and

>> >> >> >> >> > power

>> >> >> >> >> > supply.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed.

>> >> >> >> >> The

>> >> >> >> >> Soft

>> >> >> >> >> Menu

>> >> >> >> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS

>> >> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> >> be

>> >> >> >> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit

>> >> >> >> >> Saving

>> >> >> >> >> Changes

>> >> >> >> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly

>> >> >> >> >> detect

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized)

>> >> >> >> >> defaults in

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> BIOS setup.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually

>> >> >> >> >> a

>> >> >> >> >> coin-type

>> >> >> >> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized)

>> >> >> >> >> defaults,

>> >> >> >> >> save

>> >> >> >> >> changes and exit.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows

>> >> >> >> >> > welcome

>> >> >> >> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run

>> >> >> >> >> > Windows

>> >> >> >> >> > or a

>> >> >> >> >> > Widows application.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device

>> >> >> >> >> > file,

>> >> >> >> >> > but

>> >> >> >> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the

>> >> >> >> >> > associated

>> >> >> >> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this

>> >> >> >> >> > device

>> >> >> >> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing

>> >> >> >> >> > file.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC

>> >> >> >> >> printer

>> >> >> >> >> driver

>> >> >> >> >> file.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer

>> >> >> >> >> driver

>> >> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site.

>> >> >> >> >> If

>> >> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> >> no

>> >> >> >> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you

>> >> >> >> >> can

>> >> >> >> >> correctly

>> >> >> >> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> NEC

>> >> >> >> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer

>> >> >> >> >> from

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> Printers control panel.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is

>> >> >> >> >> not

November 25, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:CB649FE7-D0D1-4B88-9072-A838559D8911@microsoft.com...

> Hi Glen,

> I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

> and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

> through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

> I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

> some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

> display.

Was it a new install (format hd) or an install over the top?

Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?

I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

> floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

> again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

> recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

> to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

> helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

> state.

If all is well without issue, glad to hear it and you're welcome.

> I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

> checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

> anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

> saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

> and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret??

As Glen mentioned, get away from the web based CDO crap.

Hope you all

> had a good Thanksgiving.

Sure did, quite full-filling.

> Lew

>

> A

>

> --

> LJB

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the Soft

>> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the 233/66

>> setting instead of the 450/100.

>>

>> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's the

>> cause

>> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if it is

>> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the computer

>> OFF

>> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after the

>> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also the

>> date

>> will be off....usually slow.

>>

>> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

>>

>> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not the

>> Soft

>> Menu)?

>>

>> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an NEC

>> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers installed,

>> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed, you

>> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the NEC

>> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

>>

>> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other pointing

>> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse, you need

>> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

>>

>> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

>>

>> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

>>

>> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Brian and Glen,

>> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

>> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

>> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and it

>> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

>> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

>> >

>> > Lew

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi Brian,

>> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I

>> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

>> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

>> >>

>> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to

>> >> find

>> >> the

>> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done

>> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

>> >> >

>> >> > Lew

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >>

>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >> >

>> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> machine back in order.

>> >> >> Glen stated:

>> >> >> <quote>

>> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> >> </quote>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also

>> >> >> show

>> >> >> some

>> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

>> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the

>> >> >> FSB

>> >> >> may

>> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

>> >> >> to......

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> safe

>> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

>> >> >> one's

>> >> >> different.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

>> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

>> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

>> >> >> > Should

>> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when

>> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> did

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

>> >> >> >> language

>> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

>> >> >> >> Defaults".

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> from

>> >> >> >> your

>> >> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> BIOS

>> >> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown,

>> >> >> >> then

>> >> >> >> Exit

>> >> >> >> Saving Changes.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

>> >> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

>> >> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window

>> >> >> >> > continues

>> >> >> >> > to

>> >> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>> >> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery

>> >> >> >> > for

>> >> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on

>> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> Replies inline....

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98

>> >> >> >> >> >SE

>> >> >> >> >> >as

>> >> >> >> >> >the

>> >> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

>> >> >> >> >> > something

>> >> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT

>> >> >> >> >> > MENU

>> >> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> >> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> >> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is

>> >> >> >> >> > nothing

>> >> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and

>> >> >> >> >> > power

>> >> >> >> >> > supply.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The

>> >> >> >> >> Soft

>> >> >> >> >> Menu

>> >> >> >> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS

>> >> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> >> be

>> >> >> >> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit

>> >> >> >> >> Saving

>> >> >> >> >> Changes

>> >> >> >> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly

>> >> >> >> >> detect

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized)

>> >> >> >> >> defaults in

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> BIOS setup.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a

>> >> >> >> >> coin-type

>> >> >> >> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized)

>> >> >> >> >> defaults,

>> >> >> >> >> save

>> >> >> >> >> changes and exit.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows

>> >> >> >> >> > welcome

>> >> >> >> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows

>> >> >> >> >> > or a

>> >> >> >> >> > Widows application.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device

>> >> >> >> >> > file,

>> >> >> >> >> > but

>> >> >> >> >> > the device file no longer exists.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the

>> >> >> >> >> > associated

>> >> >> >> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this

>> >> >> >> >> > device

>> >> >> >> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing

>> >> >> >> >> > file.

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC

>> >> >> >> >> printer

>> >> >> >> >> driver

>> >> >> >> >> file.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer

>> >> >> >> >> driver

>> >> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site.

>> >> >> >> >> If

>> >> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> >> no

>> >> >> >> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you

>> >> >> >> >> can

>> >> >> >> >> correctly

>> >> >> >> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> NEC

>> >> >> >> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer

>> >> >> >> >> from

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> Printers control panel.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is

>> >> >> >> >> not

November 25, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Hi Brian,

Several problems remain but minor compared to what I started with.

"Was it a new install (format hd) or an install over the top?

Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

I installed over the top. I was fearful of fomatting everything and not

having use of my CD-ROM drive to do a fresh install. That shouldn't happen

but with my original problem I had no CD-ROM function until you folks helped.

"Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

Not really IRQ. The monitor shares input/output memory range with another

device that I can't identify but still is functional. I cannot change the

monitor setings and it runs in 640/480 mode with no font control etc.

Lew

--

LJB

"Brian A." wrote:

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:CB649FE7-D0D1-4B88-9072-A838559D8911@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Glen,

> > I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

> > and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

> > through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

> > I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

> > some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

> > display.

>

> >

> I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

> > floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

> > again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

> > recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

> > to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

> > helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

> > state.

>

> If all is well without issue, glad to hear it and you're welcome.

>

> > I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

> > checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

> > anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

> > saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

> > and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret??

>

> As Glen mentioned, get away from the web based CDO crap.

>

> Hope you all

> > had a good Thanksgiving.

>

> Sure did, quite full-filling.

>

> > Lew

> >

> > A

> >

> > --

> > LJB

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> >> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the Soft

> >> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the 233/66

> >> setting instead of the 450/100.

> >>

> >> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's the

> >> cause

> >> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if it is

> >> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the computer

> >> OFF

> >> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after the

> >> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also the

> >> date

> >> will be off....usually slow.

> >>

> >> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

> >>

> >> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not the

> >> Soft

> >> Menu)?

> >>

> >> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an NEC

> >> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers installed,

> >> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed, you

> >> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the NEC

> >> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

> >>

> >> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other pointing

> >> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse, you need

> >> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

> >>

> >> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

> >>

> >> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

> >>

> >> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

> >> --

> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi Brian and Glen,

> >> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

> >> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

> >> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and it

> >> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

> >> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

> >> >

> >> > Lew

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >> >

> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Hi Brian,

> >> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I

> >> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

> >> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

> >> >>

> >> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to

> >> >> find

> >> >> the

> >> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done

> >> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Lew

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >>

> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >>

> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >>

> >> >> > --

> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> >> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> machine back in order.

> >> >> >> Glen stated:

> >> >> >> <quote>

> >> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >> >> >> </quote>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also

> >> >> >> show

> >> >> >> some

> >> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> >> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU

> >> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the

> >> >> >> FSB

> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM

> >> >> >> to......

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> safe

> >> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

> >> >> >> one's

> >> >> >> different.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct

> >> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

> >> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

> >> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

> >> >> >> > Should

> >> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when

> >> >> >> >> you

> >> >> >> >> did

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

> >> >> >> >> language

> >> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

> >> >> >> >> Defaults".

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> battery

> >> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge

> >> >> >> >> from

> >> >> >> >> your

> >> >> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> BIOS

> >> >> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown,

> >> >> >> >> then

> >> >> >> >> Exit

> >> >> >> >> Saving Changes.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

> >> >> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

> >> >> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

> >> >> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

> >> >> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window

> >> >> >> >> > continues

> >> >> >> >> > to

> >> >> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

> >> >> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery

> >> >> >> >> > for

> >> >> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on

> >> >> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

> >> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >> Replies inline....

> >> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98

> >> >> >> >> >> >SE

> >> >> >> >> >> >as

> >> >> >> >> >> >the

> >> >> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

> >> >> >> >> >> > something

> >> >> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

> >> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT

> >> >> >> >> >> > MENU

> >> >> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

> >> >> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

> >> >> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

> >> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is

> >> >> >> >> >> > nothing

> >> >> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and

> >> >> >> >> >> > power

> >> >> >> >> >> > supply.

November 25, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

That's not the monitor, that's the display adapter (video card). Monitors do not

have input/output memory ranges.

If you cannot change your display from 640x480 and cannot change the color

resolution, you don't have the correct display drivers installed. Is this something

that occurred after you did the over-install, or was it like this before that?

Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can download

drivers for it if needed.

Why did you overinstall Windows in the first place? I thought we had gotten your

various error messages cleared up.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:3DCA256C-35AE-4E2C-87BC-45B1DBBDC542@microsoft.com...

> Hi Brian,

> Several problems remain but minor compared to what I started with.

>

> "Was it a new install (format hd) or an install over the top?

> Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

>

> I installed over the top. I was fearful of fomatting everything and not

> having use of my CD-ROM drive to do a fresh install. That shouldn't happen

> but with my original problem I had no CD-ROM function until you folks helped.

>

> "Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

>

> Not really IRQ. The monitor shares input/output memory range with another

> device that I can't identify but still is functional. I cannot change the

> monitor setings and it runs in 640/480 mode with no font control etc.

>

> Lew

>

> --

> LJB

>

> "Brian A." wrote:

>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:CB649FE7-D0D1-4B88-9072-A838559D8911@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Glen,

>> > I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

>> > and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

>> > through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

>> > I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

>> > some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

>> > display.

>>

>> >

>> I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

>> > floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

>> > again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

>> > recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

>> > to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

>> > helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

>> > state.

>>

>> If all is well without issue, glad to hear it and you're welcome.

>>

>> > I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

>> > checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

>> > anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

>> > saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

>> > and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret??

>>

>> As Glen mentioned, get away from the web based CDO crap.

>>

>> Hope you all

>> > had a good Thanksgiving.

>>

>> Sure did, quite full-filling.

>>

>> > Lew

>> >

>> > A

>> >

>> > --

>> > LJB

>>

>> --

>>

>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>>

>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>

>> >

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >

>> >> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the Soft

>> >> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the

>> >> 233/66

>> >> setting instead of the 450/100.

>> >>

>> >> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's the

>> >> cause

>> >> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if it

>> >> is

>> >> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the

>> >> computer

>> >> OFF

>> >> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after the

>> >> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also

>> >> the

>> >> date

>> >> will be off....usually slow.

>> >>

>> >> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

>> >>

>> >> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not

>> >> the

>> >> Soft

>> >> Menu)?

>> >>

>> >> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an NEC

>> >> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers

>> >> installed,

>> >> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed,

>> >> you

>> >> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the NEC

>> >> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

>> >>

>> >> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other

>> >> pointing

>> >> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse, you

>> >> need

>> >> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

>> >>

>> >> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

>> >>

>> >> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

>> >>

>> >> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

>> >> --

>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >>

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi Brian and Glen,

>> >> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

>> >> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

>> >> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and

>> >> > it

>> >> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

>> >> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

>> >> >

>> >> > Lew

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >> >

>> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > Hi Brian,

>> >> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web

>> >> >> > I

>> >> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

>> >> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to

>> >> >> find

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not

>> >> >> > done

>> >> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Lew

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> >> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can

>> >> >> >> get

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> machine back in order.

>> >> >> >> Glen stated:

>> >> >> >> <quote>

>> >> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> >> >> </quote>

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should

>> >> >> >> also

>> >> >> >> show

>> >> >> >> some

>> >> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> >> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the

>> >> >> >> CPU

>> >> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> FSB

>> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the

>> >> >> >> RAM

>> >> >> >> to......

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be

>> >> >> >> on

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> safe

>> >> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen

>> >> >> >> mentioned

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

>> >> >> >> one's

>> >> >> >> different.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the

>> >> >> >> > correct

>> >> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>> >> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

>> >> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

>> >> >> >> > Should

>> >> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so,

>> >> >> >> >> when

>> >> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> >> did

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

>> >> >> >> >> language

>> >> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

>> >> >> >> >> Defaults".

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to

>> >> >> >> >> break

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common

>> >> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic

>> >> >> >> >> Discharge

>> >> >> >> >> from

>> >> >> >> >> your

>> >> >> >> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults

>> >> >> >> >> in

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> BIOS

>> >> >> >> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown,

>> >> >> >> >> then

>> >> >> >> >> Exit

>> >> >> >> >> Saving Changes.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge

>> >> >> >> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> How to replace the CMOS battery

>> >> >> >> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> CMOS battery 2032

>> >> >> >> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> >> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window

>> >> >> >> >> > continues

>> >> >> >> >> > to

>> >> >> >> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.

>> >> >> >> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the

>> >> >> >> >> > battery

>> >> >> >> >> > for

>> >> >> >> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it

>> >> >> >> >> > on

>> >> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.

>> >> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> >> Replies inline....

>> >> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has

>> >> >> >> >> >> >Win98

>> >> >> >> >> >> >SE

>> >> >> >> >> >> >as

>> >> >> >> >> >> >the

>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did

>> >> >> >> >> >> > something

>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes

>> >> >> >> >> >> > on:

>> >> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU

>> >> >> >> >> >> > SOFT

>> >> >> >> >> >> > MENU

>> >> >> >> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP

>> >> >> >> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally

>> >> >> >> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

>> >> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there

>> >> >> >> >> >> > is

>> >> >> >> >> >> > nothing

>> >> >> >> >> >> > there to effect a change; only lists the CPU operating Speed and

>> >> >> >> >> >> > power

>> >> >> >> >> >> > supply.

November 26, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

--

LJB

"glee" wrote:

> That's not the monitor, that's the display adapter (video card). Monitors do not

> have input/output memory ranges.

Yes I meant the display adapter.

> If you cannot change your display from 640x480 and cannot change the color

> resolution, you don't have the correct display drivers installed. Is this something

> that occurred after you did the over-install, or was it like this before that?

This was present before the over-install.

> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

>

> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

>

> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can download

> drivers for it if needed.

I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

an error??

>

> Why did you overinstall Windows in the first place? I thought we had gotten your

> various error messages cleared up.

When I saw that the CD-ROM was functional I thought that would be the best

way to resolve some of the error messages that kept coming up even though the

machine was booting to Windows and not Safe Mode. I was then able to

restore from my backup disc. Would a better choice been to format the hard

disc and do a clean restore which I still can do??

LJB

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:3DCA256C-35AE-4E2C-87BC-45B1DBBDC542@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Brian,

> > Several problems remain but minor compared to what I started with.

> >

> > "Was it a new install (format hd) or an install over the top?

> > Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

> >

> > I installed over the top. I was fearful of fomatting everything and not

> > having use of my CD-ROM drive to do a fresh install. That shouldn't happen

> > but with my original problem I had no CD-ROM function until you folks helped.

> >

> > "Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

> >

> > Not really IRQ. The monitor shares input/output memory range with another

> > device that I can't identify but still is functional. I cannot change the

> > monitor setings and it runs in 640/480 mode with no font control etc.

> >

> > Lew

> >

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:CB649FE7-D0D1-4B88-9072-A838559D8911@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> > I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

> >> > and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

> >> > through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

> >> > I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

> >> > some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

> >> > display.

> >>

> >> >

> >> I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

> >> > floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

> >> > again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

> >> > recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

> >> > to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

> >> > helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

> >> > state.

> >>

> >> If all is well without issue, glad to hear it and you're welcome.

> >>

> >> > I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

> >> > checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

> >> > anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

> >> > saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

> >> > and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret??

> >>

> >> As Glen mentioned, get away from the web based CDO crap.

> >>

> >> Hope you all

> >> > had a good Thanksgiving.

> >>

> >> Sure did, quite full-filling.

> >>

> >> > Lew

> >> >

> >> > A

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >>

> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>

> >> >

> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the Soft

> >> >> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the

> >> >> 233/66

> >> >> setting instead of the 450/100.

> >> >>

> >> >> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's the

> >> >> cause

> >> >> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if it

> >> >> is

> >> >> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the

> >> >> computer

> >> >> OFF

> >> >> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after the

> >> >> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also

> >> >> the

> >> >> date

> >> >> will be off....usually slow.

> >> >>

> >> >> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

> >> >>

> >> >> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not

> >> >> the

> >> >> Soft

> >> >> Menu)?

> >> >>

> >> >> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an NEC

> >> >> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers

> >> >> installed,

> >> >> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed,

> >> >> you

> >> >> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the NEC

> >> >> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

> >> >>

> >> >> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other

> >> >> pointing

> >> >> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse, you

> >> >> need

> >> >> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

> >> >>

> >> >> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

> >> >>

> >> >> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

> >> >>

> >> >> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

> >> >> --

> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> >>

> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Hi Brian and Glen,

> >> >> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

> >> >> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

> >> >> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and

> >> >> > it

> >> >> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

> >> >> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Lew

> >> >> > --

> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> > Hi Brian,

> >> >> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web

> >> >> >> > I

> >> >> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

> >> >> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying to

> >> >> >> find

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not

> >> >> >> > done

> >> >> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Lew

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

> >> >> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can

> >> >> >> >> get

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> machine back in order.

> >> >> >> >> Glen stated:

> >> >> >> >> <quote>

> >> >> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

> >> >> >> >> </quote>

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should

> >> >> >> >> also

> >> >> >> >> show

> >> >> >> >> some

> >> >> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

> >> >> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the

> >> >> >> >> CPU

> >> >> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> FSB

> >> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the

> >> >> >> >> RAM

> >> >> >> >> to......

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be

> >> >> >> >> on

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> safe

> >> >> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen

> >> >> >> >> mentioned

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that

> >> >> >> >> one's

> >> >> >> >> different.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> >> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the

> >> >> >> >> > correct

> >> >> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

> >> >> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the

> >> >> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv, etc)??

> >> >> >> >> > Should

> >> >> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

> >> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so,

> >> >> >> >> >> when

> >> >> >> >> >> you

> >> >> >> >> >> did

> >> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

> >> >> >> >> >> language

> >> >> >> >> >> may

> >> >> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

> >> >> >> >> >> Defaults".

> >> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to

> >> >> >> >> >> break

> >> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> >> battery

> >> >> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

> >> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common

> >> >> >> >> >> is

> >> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> >> CR2032

> >> >> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

> >> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

> >> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic

November 26, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

>

> --

> LJB

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> That's not the monitor, that's the display adapter (video card). Monitors do not

>> have input/output memory ranges.

>

> Yes I meant the display adapter.

>

>> If you cannot change your display from 640x480 and cannot change the color

>> resolution, you don't have the correct display drivers installed. Is this

>> something

>> that occurred after you did the over-install, or was it like this before that?

>

> This was present before the over-install.

Was it ever different where you could select other resolutions?

>

>> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

>> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

>

> I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

> was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

The "Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" is the default installed if another

adapter isn't found to be present. This doesn't always mean that you don't have

another adapter installed, only that one wasn't detected. Installing the proper

driver/s for the video chip/adapter as Glen mentioned should rectify the issue.

> In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

> Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

>>

>> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

>>

>> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

>> download

>> drivers for it if needed.

>

> I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

> Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

> Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

> a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

> an error??

Create a new folder on your desktop or any other place you wish and name it

SISVideo.

I believe that would be SIS 300/305. You can obtain the drivers here:

http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php

If that link fails to produce the driver page, start here:

http://www.sis.com/download/

Select your OS in the first selection list box.

Select GPU Graphics drivers in the second selection list box.

Select SIS300/SIS305 series GPU in the third selection list box.

Click the "GO" Button.

Select the country in the "Choose download location" dropdown list.

Click the "Download now" button.

Download the package to the SISVideo folder you created.

Unzip/extract the files into the same folder.

Double click on the extracted 300_115_win9x folder to open it.

Double click on the Win98 Folder.

Right click on the SIS300M.inf file.

Click "Install" in the popup menu.

>

>>

>> Why did you overinstall Windows in the first place? I thought we had gotten your

>> various error messages cleared up.

>

> When I saw that the CD-ROM was functional I thought that would be the best

> way to resolve some of the error messages that kept coming up even though the

> machine was booting to Windows and not Safe Mode. I was then able to

> restore from my backup disc. Would a better choice been to format the hard

> disc and do a clean restore which I still can do??

An overinstall does not clear up many problems and can cause more issues in some

cases. If you format your drive all of your files/applications will be lost, this

includes your backup app unless you have a way to run the app in DOS from either a

recovery partition or the apps own install disk. Make sure you can access the app

and bu files before conducting any format/fdisk.

>

> LJB

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:3DCA256C-35AE-4E2C-87BC-45B1DBBDC542@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Brian,

>> > Several problems remain but minor compared to what I started with.

>> >

>> > "Was it a new install (format hd) or an install over the top?

>> > Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

>> >

>> > I installed over the top. I was fearful of fomatting everything and not

>> > having use of my CD-ROM drive to do a fresh install. That shouldn't happen

>> > but with my original problem I had no CD-ROM function until you folks helped.

>> >

>> > "Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

>> >

>> > Not really IRQ. The monitor shares input/output memory range with another

>> > device that I can't identify but still is functional. I cannot change the

>> > monitor setings and it runs in 640/480 mode with no font control etc.

>> >

>> > Lew

>> >

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:CB649FE7-D0D1-4B88-9072-A838559D8911@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> > I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

>> >> > and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

>> >> > through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

>> >> > I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

>> >> > some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

>> >> > display.

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

>> >> > floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

>> >> > again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

>> >> > recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

>> >> > to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

>> >> > helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

>> >> > state.

>> >>

>> >> If all is well without issue, glad to hear it and you're welcome.

>> >>

>> >> > I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

>> >> > checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

>> >> > anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

>> >> > saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

>> >> > and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret??

>> >>

>> >> As Glen mentioned, get away from the web based CDO crap.

>> >>

>> >> Hope you all

>> >> > had a good Thanksgiving.

>> >>

>> >> Sure did, quite full-filling.

>> >>

>> >> > Lew

>> >> >

>> >> > A

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >>

>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the

>> >> >> Soft

>> >> >> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the

>> >> >> 233/66

>> >> >> setting instead of the 450/100.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> cause

>> >> >> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if

>> >> >> it

>> >> >> is

>> >> >> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the

>> >> >> computer

>> >> >> OFF

>> >> >> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> date

>> >> >> will be off....usually slow.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> Soft

>> >> >> Menu)?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an

>> >> >> NEC

>> >> >> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers

>> >> >> installed,

>> >> >> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed,

>> >> >> you

>> >> >> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the

>> >> >> NEC

>> >> >> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other

>> >> >> pointing

>> >> >> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse,

>> >> >> you

>> >> >> need

>> >> >> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > Hi Brian and Glen,

>> >> >> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

>> >> >> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

>> >> >> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and

>> >> >> > it

>> >> >> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

>> >> >> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Lew

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> > Hi Brian,

>> >> >> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the

>> >> >> >> > Web

>> >> >> >> > I

>> >> >> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

>> >> >> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> find

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not

>> >> >> >> > done

>> >> >> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Lew

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?

>> >> >> >> >> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we

>> >> >> >> >> can

>> >> >> >> >> get

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> machine back in order.

>> >> >> >> >> Glen stated:

>> >> >> >> >> <quote>

>> >> >> >> >> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

>> >> >> >> >> </quote>

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should

>> >> >> >> >> also

>> >> >> >> >> show

>> >> >> >> >> some

>> >> >> >> >> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.

>> >> >> >> >> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> CPU

>> >> >> >> >> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me

>> >> >> >> >> that

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> FSB

>> >> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> >> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the

>> >> >> >> >> RAM

>> >> >> >> >> to......

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to

>> >> >> >> >> be

>> >> >> >> >> on

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> safe

>> >> >> >> >> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen

>> >> >> >> >> mentioned

>> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> >> >> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions

>> >> >> >> >> that

>> >> >> >> >> one's

>> >> >> >> >> different.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

>> >> >> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> >> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >> >> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> >> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >> > Hi Glen,

>> >> >> >> >> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the

>> >> >> >> >> > correct

>> >> >> >> >> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same

>> >> >> >> >> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence,

>> >> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> >> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv; lmouse.drv,

>> >> >> >> >> > etc)??

>> >> >> >> >> > Should

>> >> >> >> >> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks

>> >> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> >> > LJB

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so,

>> >> >> >> >> >> when

>> >> >> >> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> >> >> did

>> >> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the

>> >> >> >> >> >> language

>> >> >> >> >> >> may

>> >> >> >> >> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe

>> >> >> >> >> >> Defaults".

>> >> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to

>> >> >> >> >> >> break

>> >> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> >> battery

>> >> >> >> >> >> holder or its clips.

>> >> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common

>> >> >> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> >> >> CR2032

>> >> >> >> >> >> Lithium battery.

>> >> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

>> >> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic

November 26, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

Replies inline.....

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

> "glee" wrote:

>

> snip

>> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

>> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

>

> I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

> was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

> In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

> Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your display

adapter.

On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

In the Device Manager> Display Adapters category, is that the only adapter listed?

Does the machine only have a video card, or does it also have onboard video

(integrated in the motherboard) that is not in use? You can tell, if there is a

second VGA connector on the back of the computer up near the mouse and keyboard and

USB ports.

>> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

>>

>> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

>> download

>> drivers for it if needed.

>

> I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

> Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

> Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

> a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

> an error??

That's a DirectX icon. The name listed there is your actual video chipset, which

you typo'ed:

it's SiS 300/305

Go here: http://www.sis.com/download/

Agree to the license agreement (check the "I agree" box and click the button).

Choose your operating system in the first box (Win 98 SE).

In the second box, choose GPU Graphics Drivers.

In the third box, choose SiS300/SiS305 series GPU.

Click the GO button.

In the next window, choose the location for the download (your country), then click

the Download Now button and save the .zip file to a folder on your hard drive where

you can access it later. The file is named 300_115_win9x.zip

Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the C:\ drive. In the root of the C: drive,

create a new folder and name it SIS. Now you have a folder at C:\SIS

Open the downloaded .zip file with a program like WinZip (http://www.winzip.com).

Choose to extract ALL the files to the C:\SIS folder, but Make Sure you select the

option in WinZip to "Use folder names"...the option will be a checkbox in the

extract dialog box where you choose the folder to extract to. That option will

allow the files to be extracted into the folder along with all the sub-folders that

are set up in the .zip file.

When extracted, there will be a number of sub-folders in the C:\SIS folder now.

Close WinZip and ALL other programs and windows, and disable your anti-virus.

Go to the "win9x" folder (at C:\SIS\win9x) and double-click the Setup.exe file to

begin driver installation.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

November 26, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

--

LJB

"Brian A." wrote:

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

> >

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> >> That's not the monitor, that's the display adapter (video card). Monitors do not

> >> have input/output memory ranges.

> >

> > Yes I meant the display adapter.

> >

> >> If you cannot change your display from 640x480 and cannot change the color

> >> resolution, you don't have the correct display drivers installed. Is this

> >> something

> >> that occurred after you did the over-install, or was it like this before that?

> >

> > This was present before the over-install.

>

> Was it ever different where you could select other resolutions?

Yes but not with this present debacle

>

> >

> >> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

> >> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

> >

> > I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

> > was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

>

> The "Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" is the default installed if another

> adapter isn't found to be present. This doesn't always mean that you don't have

> another adapter installed, only that one wasn't detected. Installing the proper

> driver/s for the video chip/adapter as Glen mentioned should rectify the issue.

>

> > In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

> > Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

> >>

> >> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

> >>

> >> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

> >> download

> >> drivers for it if needed.

> >

> > I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

> > Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

> > Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

> > a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

> > an error??

>

> Create a new folder on your desktop or any other place you wish and name it

> SISVideo.

>

> I believe that would be SIS 300/305. You can obtain the drivers here:

> http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php

>

> If that link fails to produce the driver page, start here:

> http://www.sis.com/download/

>

> Select your OS in the first selection list box.

> Select GPU Graphics drivers in the second selection list box.

> Select SIS300/SIS305 series GPU in the third selection list box.

> Click the "GO" Button.

>

> Select the country in the "Choose download location" dropdown list.

> Click the "Download now" button.

> Download the package to the SISVideo folder you created.

> Unzip/extract the files into the same folder.

> Double click on the extracted 300_115_win9x folder to open it.

> Double click on the Win98 Folder.

> Right click on the SIS300M.inf file.

> Click "Install" in the popup menu.

OK I have downloaded the folder to a created SISVideo folder and unzipped

it. As you know are a number of files (13) but none is named with a ".inf"

extension. However on checking the properties of "Sis300m" it has a MS-DOS

name that corresponds and is SIS300M.INF. So I did a R click and then an

install but nothing seemed to happen. There was no indication anything was

installed. I checked the Sis300m.drv file but there is no install option

with a R click. I rebooted the computer to see if the display settings had

improved but they are the same.

>

> >

> >>

> >> Why did you overinstall Windows in the first place? I thought we had gotten your

> >> various error messages cleared up.

> >

> > When I saw that the CD-ROM was functional I thought that would be the best

> > way to resolve some of the error messages that kept coming up even though the

> > machine was booting to Windows and not Safe Mode. I was then able to

> > restore from my backup disc. Would a better choice been to format the hard

> > disc and do a clean restore which I still can do??

>

> An overinstall does not clear up many problems and can cause more issues in some

> cases. If you format your drive all of your files/applications will be lost, this

> includes your backup app unless you have a way to run the app in DOS from either a

> recovery partition or the apps own install disk. Make sure you can access the app

> and bu files before conducting any format/fdisk.

>

> >

> > LJB

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> >

> >> --

> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:3DCA256C-35AE-4E2C-87BC-45B1DBBDC542@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi Brian,

> >> > Several problems remain but minor compared to what I started with.

> >> >

> >> > "Was it a new install (format hd) or an install over the top?

> >> > Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

> >> >

> >> > I installed over the top. I was fearful of fomatting everything and not

> >> > having use of my CD-ROM drive to do a fresh install. That shouldn't happen

> >> > but with my original problem I had no CD-ROM function until you folks helped.

> >> >

> >> > "Have you cleared up the IRQ problems?"

> >> >

> >> > Not really IRQ. The monitor shares input/output memory range with another

> >> > device that I can't identify but still is functional. I cannot change the

> >> > monitor setings and it runs in 640/480 mode with no font control etc.

> >> >

> >> > Lew

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >> >

> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> news:CB649FE7-D0D1-4B88-9072-A838559D8911@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Hi Glen,

> >> >> > I was able to locate the original installation discs for Logitech mouse

> >> >> > and the NEC printer and installed both. On boot the computer went straight

> >> >> > through to a Safe Mode presentation and the CD-ROM drive became functional.

> >> >> > I went ahead and reinstalled Windows 98 and was able to boot normally with

> >> >> > some minor IRQ and hardware errors primarily associated with the monitor

> >> >> > display.

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> I have been able to transfer the files I wanted on older 5.25

> >> >> > floppies to the 3.5's and access them on my XP computer. So I am in business

> >> >> > again so to speak. There was one instance when the atsym.drv problem

> >> >> > recurred but I was able to change it in sytem.ini and a normal boot returned

> >> >> > to allow me to complete my goals. Special thanks to you and Brian for

> >> >> > helping me get though this debacle and returning the computer to a functional

> >> >> > state.

> >> >>

> >> >> If all is well without issue, glad to hear it and you're welcome.

> >> >>

> >> >> > I have a housekeeping question. When I started this thread and then

> >> >> > checked back to see if there were any responses I could not find it listed

> >> >> > anywhere. I finally put my name in the Search box and it was found and I

> >> >> > saved the URL. I have just repeated the exercise going to discussion groups

> >> >> > and Windows 98 and do not see the thread. What is the secret??

> >> >>

> >> >> As Glen mentioned, get away from the web based CDO crap.

> >> >>

> >> >> Hope you all

> >> >> > had a good Thanksgiving.

> >> >>

> >> >> Sure did, quite full-filling.

> >> >>

> >> >> > Lew

> >> >> >

> >> >> > A

> >> >> >

> >> >> > --

> >> >> > LJB

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >>

> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >>

> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> That's why I was asking if you had the correct processor selected in the

> >> >> >> Soft

> >> >> >> Menu....not what it says it is, but what is selected. You were using the

> >> >> >> 233/66

> >> >> >> setting instead of the 450/100.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You may not need to replace the CMOS battery yet, but it is likely that's

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> cause

> >> >> >> of the initial problem with the BIOS settings change. You can determine if

> >> >> >> it

> >> >> >> is

> >> >> >> weak by observing if you lose the BIOS settings again after having the

> >> >> >> computer

> >> >> >> OFF

> >> >> >> for *at least* an overnight period, or longer. Also, if it is weak, after

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> system has been shut off overnight or for a day, the time and possibly also

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> date

> >> >> >> will be off....usually slow.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Given the age of the BH-6 board, it is due for a battery replacement.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Do you now have the BIOS set to Setup Defaults (in the main BIOS Setup, not

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> Soft

> >> >> >> Menu)?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Regarding your other errors,the ASIVMSVC.VXD file appears to be part of an

> >> >> >> NEC

> >> >> >> SuperScript printer driver package. If you have one of these printers

> >> >> >> installed,

> >> >> >> you need to reinstall the driver. If you don't have one of these installed,

> >> >> >> you

> >> >> >> need to get rid of the troublesome entry in the Registry, or reinstall the

> >> >> >> NEC

> >> >> >> SuperScript driver, then uninstall it through Add/Remove Programs.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Likewise the LMOUSE missing file....if you have a Logitech mouse or other

> >> >> >> pointing

> >> >> >> device, you need to reinstall the driver. If there is no Logitech mouse,

> >> >> >> you

> >> >> >> need

> >> >> >> to get rid of the Registry entry calling that file.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Post back with whether you have these devices installed.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> How is Windows currently performing after you get past these error messages?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Are there any errors or problems shown when you look in Device Manager?

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:E52C1BB3-7E43-4B69-8525-329D4C823304@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> > Hi Brian and Glen,

> >> >> >> > Please note my post to MEB I just sent. He suggested that the CPU speed

> >> >> >> > does not match up in the BIOS so I changed it to 450/100 and the error

> >> >> >> > message on booting (the computer is unworkable,etc) no longer comes up and

> >> >> >> > it

> >> >> >> > boots directly to the page that says "cannot find a device

> >> >> >> > file........asivmscv.vxd".

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Lew

> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> > LJB

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> >> >> news:5110AA95-62ED-412C-BA80-AC3AC968F333@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> >> > Hi Brian,

> >> >> >> >> > I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the

> >> >> >> >> > Web

> >> >> >> >> > I

> >> >> >> >> > came up wih this that looks like mine.

> >> >> >> >> > http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> I've seen that already along with many other pages like it, I'm trying

> >> >> >> >> to

> >> >> >> >> find

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> BIOS setting docs which are eluding me at the moment.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not

> >> >> >> >> > done

> >> >> >> >> > anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > Lew

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> >> >> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >> >> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >> >> >> >>

November 26, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

--

LJB

"glee" wrote:

> Replies inline.....

>

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> > snip

> >> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

> >> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

> >

> > I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

> > was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

> > In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

> > Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

>

> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your display

> adapter.

> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

No conflicting device is listed. Above this is "Set Configuration Manually"

and above this are several messages: "This device cannot find any free

Input/Output Range (I/O) resources that it can use" and "If you want to use

this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system

that has a Input/Output Range (I/O) resource conflict with it."

>

> In the Device Manager> Display Adapters category, is that the only adapter listed?

Yes and with a yellow warning flag in front

>

> Does the machine only have a video card, or does it also have onboard video

> (integrated in the motherboard) that is not in use? You can tell, if there is a

> second VGA connector on the back of the computer up near the mouse and keyboard and

> USB ports.

No only the one video connector on the back.

>

> >> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

> >>

> >> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

> >> download

> >> drivers for it if needed.

> >

> > I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

> > Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

> > Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

> > a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

> > an error??

>

> That's a DirectX icon. The name listed there is your actual video chipset, which

> you typo'ed:

> it's SiS 300/305

>

> Go here: http://www.sis.com/download/

> Agree to the license agreement (check the "I agree" box and click the button).

> Choose your operating system in the first box (Win 98 SE).

> In the second box, choose GPU Graphics Drivers.

> In the third box, choose SiS300/SiS305 series GPU.

> Click the GO button.

>

> In the next window, choose the location for the download (your country), then click

> the Download Now button and save the .zip file to a folder on your hard drive where

> you can access it later. The file is named 300_115_win9x.zip

>

> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the C:\ drive. In the root of the C: drive,

> create a new folder and name it SIS. Now you have a folder at C:\SIS

>

> Open the downloaded .zip file with a program like WinZip (http://www.winzip.com).

> Choose to extract ALL the files to the C:\SIS folder, but Make Sure you select the

> option in WinZip to "Use folder names"...the option will be a checkbox in the

> extract dialog box where you choose the folder to extract to. That option will

> allow the files to be extracted into the folder along with all the sub-folders that

> are set up in the .zip file.

>

> When extracted, there will be a number of sub-folders in the C:\SIS folder now.

> Close WinZip and ALL other programs and windows, and disable your anti-virus.

> Go to the "win9x" folder (at C:\SIS\win9x) and double-click the Setup.exe file to

> begin driver installation.

Well I did all of that. There were 4 setup folders including the setup.exe.

THe program was installed and now on Device Manager/Display adapters the SiS

300/305 is listed instead of "Standard PCI Graphic Adapter" with a yellow

flag in front. But the display remains the same, no control over fonts,

monitor resolution, etc.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

November 26, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:AB934922-936A-46A5-87F2-872C56E0D2EF@microsoft.com...

>

> --

> LJB

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> Replies inline.....

>>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >

>> > snip

>> >> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

>> >> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

>> >

>> > I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

>> > was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

>> > In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

>> > Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

>>

>> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

>> display

>> adapter.

>> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

>> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

>

> No conflicting device is listed. Above this is "Set Configuration Manually"

> and above this are several messages: "This device cannot find any free

> Input/Output Range (I/O) resources that it can use" and "If you want to use

> this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system

> that has a Input/Output Range (I/O) resource conflict with it."

>

>>

>> In the Device Manager> Display Adapters category, is that the only adapter listed?

>

> Yes and with a yellow warning flag in front

>

>>

>> Does the machine only have a video card, or does it also have onboard video

>> (integrated in the motherboard) that is not in use? You can tell, if there is a

>> second VGA connector on the back of the computer up near the mouse and keyboard

>> and

>> USB ports.

>

> No only the one video connector on the back.

>>

>> >> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

>> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

>> >>

>> >> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

>> >> download

>> >> drivers for it if needed.

>> >

>> > I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

>> > Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

>> > Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

>> > a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

>> > an error??

>>

>> That's a DirectX icon. The name listed there is your actual video chipset, which

>> you typo'ed:

>> it's SiS 300/305

>>

>> Go here: http://www.sis.com/download/

>> Agree to the license agreement (check the "I agree" box and click the button).

>> Choose your operating system in the first box (Win 98 SE).

>> In the second box, choose GPU Graphics Drivers.

>> In the third box, choose SiS300/SiS305 series GPU.

>> Click the GO button.

>>

>> In the next window, choose the location for the download (your country), then

>> click

>> the Download Now button and save the .zip file to a folder on your hard drive

>> where

>> you can access it later. The file is named 300_115_win9x.zip

>>

>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the C:\ drive. In the root of the C:

>> drive,

>> create a new folder and name it SIS. Now you have a folder at C:\SIS

>>

>> Open the downloaded .zip file with a program like WinZip (http://www.winzip.com).

>> Choose to extract ALL the files to the C:\SIS folder, but Make Sure you select the

>> option in WinZip to "Use folder names"...the option will be a checkbox in the

>> extract dialog box where you choose the folder to extract to. That option will

>> allow the files to be extracted into the folder along with all the sub-folders

>> that

>> are set up in the .zip file.

>>

>> When extracted, there will be a number of sub-folders in the C:\SIS folder now.

>> Close WinZip and ALL other programs and windows, and disable your anti-virus.

>> Go to the "win9x" folder (at C:\SIS\win9x) and double-click the Setup.exe file to

>> begin driver installation.

>

> Well I did all of that. There were 4 setup folders including the setup.exe.

> THe program was installed and now on Device Manager/Display adapters the SiS

> 300/305 is listed instead of "Standard PCI Graphic Adapter" with a yellow

> flag in front. But the display remains the same, no control over fonts,

> monitor resolution, etc.

You still have a conflict. As Glen mentioned earlier:

<quote>

In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your display

adapter.

On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

</quote>

Let me add to that. Click on each resource listed to see which is the conflicting

one. It appears to me that earlier when you mentioned that it reported no conflicts

that you only saw what was reported for the selected resource in the list.

Another thing, you mentioned that the resources were selected to "Set Configuration

Manually", uncheck that and let the system configure them to see if it clears up the

issue.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

November 26, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:810465FF-EFD6-449A-A9A3-7C797DD6F2C8@microsoft.com...

>

> --

> LJB

>

> "Brian A." wrote:

>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

>> >

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >

>> >> That's not the monitor, that's the display adapter (video card). Monitors do

>> >> not

>> >> have input/output memory ranges.

>> >

>> > Yes I meant the display adapter.

>> >

>> >> If you cannot change your display from 640x480 and cannot change the color

>> >> resolution, you don't have the correct display drivers installed. Is this

>> >> something

>> >> that occurred after you did the over-install, or was it like this before that?

>> >

>> > This was present before the over-install.

>>

>> Was it ever different where you could select other resolutions?

>

> Yes but not with this present debacle

>

>>

>> >

>> >> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

>> >> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

>> >

>> > I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

>> > was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

>>

>> The "Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" is the default installed if another

>> adapter isn't found to be present. This doesn't always mean that you don't have

>> another adapter installed, only that one wasn't detected. Installing the proper

>> driver/s for the video chip/adapter as Glen mentioned should rectify the issue.

>>

>> > In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

>> > Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

>> >>

>> >> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

>> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

>> >>

>> >> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

>> >> download

>> >> drivers for it if needed.

>> >

>> > I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

>> > Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

>> > Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

>> > a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

>> > an error??

>>

>> Create a new folder on your desktop or any other place you wish and name it

>> SISVideo.

>>

>> I believe that would be SIS 300/305. You can obtain the drivers here:

>> http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php

>>

>> If that link fails to produce the driver page, start here:

>> http://www.sis.com/download/

>>

>> Select your OS in the first selection list box.

>> Select GPU Graphics drivers in the second selection list box.

>> Select SIS300/SIS305 series GPU in the third selection list box.

>> Click the "GO" Button.

>>

>> Select the country in the "Choose download location" dropdown list.

>> Click the "Download now" button.

>> Download the package to the SISVideo folder you created.

>> Unzip/extract the files into the same folder.

>> Double click on the extracted 300_115_win9x folder to open it.

>> Double click on the Win98 Folder.

>> Right click on the SIS300M.inf file.

>> Click "Install" in the popup menu.

>

> OK I have downloaded the folder to a created SISVideo folder and unzipped

> it. As you know are a number of files (13) but none is named with a ".inf"

> extension. However on checking the properties of "Sis300m" it has a MS-DOS

> name that corresponds and is SIS300M.INF. So I did a R click and then an

> install but nothing seemed to happen. There was no indication anything was

> installed. I checked the Sis300m.drv file but there is no install option

> with a R click. I rebooted the computer to see if the display settings had

> improved but they are the same.

>

Ok, I see in your response to Glen you have succeded in getting the drivers

installed, yet you still have a conflict. See my response to your response to Glen.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

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November 27, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

--

LJB

"Brian A." wrote:

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:AB934922-936A-46A5-87F2-872C56E0D2EF@microsoft.com...

> >

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> >> Replies inline.....

> >>

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >

> >> > snip

> >> >> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

> >> >> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

> >> >

> >> > I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

> >> > was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

> >> > In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

> >> > Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

> >>

> >> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

> >> display

> >> adapter.

> >> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

> >> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

> >

> > No conflicting device is listed. Above this is "Set Configuration Manually"

> > and above this are several messages: "This device cannot find any free

> > Input/Output Range (I/O) resources that it can use" and "If you want to use

> > this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system

> > that has a Input/Output Range (I/O) resource conflict with it."

> >

> >>

> >> In the Device Manager> Display Adapters category, is that the only adapter listed?

> >

> > Yes and with a yellow warning flag in front

> >

> >>

> >> Does the machine only have a video card, or does it also have onboard video

> >> (integrated in the motherboard) that is not in use? You can tell, if there is a

> >> second VGA connector on the back of the computer up near the mouse and keyboard

> >> and

> >> USB ports.

> >

> > No only the one video connector on the back.

> >>

> >> >> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

> >> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

> >> >>

> >> >> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

> >> >> download

> >> >> drivers for it if needed.

> >> >

> >> > I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

> >> > Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

> >> > Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

> >> > a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

> >> > an error??

> >>

> >> That's a DirectX icon. The name listed there is your actual video chipset, which

> >> you typo'ed:

> >> it's SiS 300/305

> >>

> >> Go here: http://www.sis.com/download/

> >> Agree to the license agreement (check the "I agree" box and click the button).

> >> Choose your operating system in the first box (Win 98 SE).

> >> In the second box, choose GPU Graphics Drivers.

> >> In the third box, choose SiS300/SiS305 series GPU.

> >> Click the GO button.

> >>

> >> In the next window, choose the location for the download (your country), then

> >> click

> >> the Download Now button and save the .zip file to a folder on your hard drive

> >> where

> >> you can access it later. The file is named 300_115_win9x.zip

> >>

> >> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the C:\ drive. In the root of the C:

> >> drive,

> >> create a new folder and name it SIS. Now you have a folder at C:\SIS

> >>

> >> Open the downloaded .zip file with a program like WinZip (http://www.winzip.com).

> >> Choose to extract ALL the files to the C:\SIS folder, but Make Sure you select the

> >> option in WinZip to "Use folder names"...the option will be a checkbox in the

> >> extract dialog box where you choose the folder to extract to. That option will

> >> allow the files to be extracted into the folder along with all the sub-folders

> >> that

> >> are set up in the .zip file.

> >>

> >> When extracted, there will be a number of sub-folders in the C:\SIS folder now.

> >> Close WinZip and ALL other programs and windows, and disable your anti-virus.

> >> Go to the "win9x" folder (at C:\SIS\win9x) and double-click the Setup.exe file to

> >> begin driver installation.

> >

> > Well I did all of that. There were 4 setup folders including the setup.exe.

> > THe program was installed and now on Device Manager/Display adapters the SiS

> > 300/305 is listed instead of "Standard PCI Graphic Adapter" with a yellow

> > flag in front. But the display remains the same, no control over fonts,

> > monitor resolution, etc.

>

> You still have a conflict. As Glen mentioned earlier:

> <quote>

> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your display

> adapter.

> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

> </quote>

>

> Let me add to that. Click on each resource listed to see which is the conflicting

> one. It appears to me that earlier when you mentioned that it reported no conflicts

> that you only saw what was reported for the selected resource in the list.

>

> Another thing, you mentioned that the resources were selected to "Set Configuration

> Manually", uncheck that and let the system configure them to see if it clears up the

> issue.

In "Resources/conflicting device list are two entries:

1)Memory Range 00000000-07 FFFFFF used by System board extension for PnP

BIOS

2) Memory Rabge 00000000-07FFFFF used by Motherboard resources

The "use automatic setings" box is checked. If I uncheck it the "Setting

based on" reads "Basic configuration 0000" and there are no other options in

the pull down tab. The "Change Setting" box can be clicked in this mode

(was greyed out in automatic settings mode) but it says "This resource

setting cannot be modified"

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

November 27, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:AEAB9FA3-C7F0-4F53-93A0-70F3053B3305@microsoft.com...

>> snip

>> You still have a conflict. As Glen mentioned earlier:

>> <quote>

>> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

>> display

>> adapter.

>> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

>> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

>> </quote>

>>

>> Let me add to that. Click on each resource listed to see which is the

>> conflicting

>> one. It appears to me that earlier when you mentioned that it reported no

>> conflicts

>> that you only saw what was reported for the selected resource in the list.

>>

>> Another thing, you mentioned that the resources were selected to "Set

>> Configuration

>> Manually", uncheck that and let the system configure them to see if it clears up

>> the

>> issue.

>

> In "Resources/conflicting device list are two entries:

> 1)Memory Range 00000000-07 FFFFFF used by System board extension for PnP

> BIOS

> 2) Memory Rabge 00000000-07FFFFF used by Motherboard resources

>

> The "use automatic setings" box is checked. If I uncheck it the "Setting

> based on" reads "Basic configuration 0000" and there are no other options in

> the pull down tab. The "Change Setting" box can be clicked in this mode

> (was greyed out in automatic settings mode) but it says "This resource

> setting cannot be modified"

Go to Control Panel> Add New Hardware. Have it search your system for new hardware.

It may find some things like Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI), Plug

and Play Bios, and/or System Board. If it does, choose to install them all.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

November 27, 2007

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

news:AEAB9FA3-C7F0-4F53-93A0-70F3053B3305@microsoft.com...

>

> --

> LJB

>

> "Brian A." wrote:

>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:AB934922-936A-46A5-87F2-872C56E0D2EF@microsoft.com...

>> >

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Replies inline.....

>> >>

>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> >> news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

>> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> > snip

>> >> >> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

>> >> >> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

>> >> >

>> >> > I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

>> >> > was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

>> >> > In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

>> >> > Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

>> >>

>> >> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

>> >> display

>> >> adapter.

>> >> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

>> >> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

>> >

>> > No conflicting device is listed. Above this is "Set Configuration Manually"

>> > and above this are several messages: "This device cannot find any free

>> > Input/Output Range (I/O) resources that it can use" and "If you want to use

>> > this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system

>> > that has a Input/Output Range (I/O) resource conflict with it."

>> >

>> >>

>> >> In the Device Manager> Display Adapters category, is that the only adapter

>> >> listed?

>> >

>> > Yes and with a yellow warning flag in front

>> >

>> >>

>> >> Does the machine only have a video card, or does it also have onboard video

>> >> (integrated in the motherboard) that is not in use? You can tell, if there is

>> >> a

>> >> second VGA connector on the back of the computer up near the mouse and keyboard

>> >> and

>> >> USB ports.

>> >

>> > No only the one video connector on the back.

>> >>

>> >> >> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

>> >> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

>> >> >> download

>> >> >> drivers for it if needed.

>> >> >

>> >> > I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

>> >> > Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

>> >> > Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

>> >> > a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

>> >> > an error??

>> >>

>> >> That's a DirectX icon. The name listed there is your actual video chipset,

>> >> which

>> >> you typo'ed:

>> >> it's SiS 300/305

>> >>

>> >> Go here: http://www.sis.com/download/

>> >> Agree to the license agreement (check the "I agree" box and click the button).

>> >> Choose your operating system in the first box (Win 98 SE).

>> >> In the second box, choose GPU Graphics Drivers.

>> >> In the third box, choose SiS300/SiS305 series GPU.

>> >> Click the GO button.

>> >>

>> >> In the next window, choose the location for the download (your country), then

>> >> click

>> >> the Download Now button and save the .zip file to a folder on your hard drive

>> >> where

>> >> you can access it later. The file is named 300_115_win9x.zip

>> >>

>> >> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the C:\ drive. In the root of the C:

>> >> drive,

>> >> create a new folder and name it SIS. Now you have a folder at C:\SIS

>> >>

>> >> Open the downloaded .zip file with a program like WinZip (http://www.winzip.com).

>> >> Choose to extract ALL the files to the C:\SIS folder, but Make Sure you select

>> >> the

>> >> option in WinZip to "Use folder names"...the option will be a checkbox in the

>> >> extract dialog box where you choose the folder to extract to. That option will

>> >> allow the files to be extracted into the folder along with all the sub-folders

>> >> that

>> >> are set up in the .zip file.

>> >>

>> >> When extracted, there will be a number of sub-folders in the C:\SIS folder now.

>> >> Close WinZip and ALL other programs and windows, and disable your anti-virus.

>> >> Go to the "win9x" folder (at C:\SIS\win9x) and double-click the Setup.exe file

>> >> to

>> >> begin driver installation.

>> >

>> > Well I did all of that. There were 4 setup folders including the setup.exe.

>> > THe program was installed and now on Device Manager/Display adapters the SiS

>> > 300/305 is listed instead of "Standard PCI Graphic Adapter" with a yellow

>> > flag in front. But the display remains the same, no control over fonts,

>> > monitor resolution, etc.

>>

>> You still have a conflict. As Glen mentioned earlier:

>> <quote>

>> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

>> display

>> adapter.

>> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

>> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

>> </quote>

>>

>> Let me add to that. Click on each resource listed to see which is the

>> conflicting

>> one. It appears to me that earlier when you mentioned that it reported no

>> conflicts

>> that you only saw what was reported for the selected resource in the list.

>>

>> Another thing, you mentioned that the resources were selected to "Set

>> Configuration

>> Manually", uncheck that and let the system configure them to see if it clears up

>> the

>> issue.

>

> In "Resources/conflicting device list are two entries:

> 1)Memory Range 00000000-07 FFFFFF used by System board extension for PnP

> BIOS

> 2) Memory Rabge 00000000-07FFFFF used by Motherboard resources

In DM at the top of the pane select the tic input circle "View devices by

connection".

Locate the "System board extension for PnP" and "Motherboard resources".

Expand "Advanced Configuration and........" and anything else if you need to in order

to locate the listed items above.

Right click on each device listed above once located.

Click "Remove" in the popup menu of each item listed above.

Once you have finished removing the items listed above close out of DM and reboot the

machine.

Windows should redetect the devices and reinstall the drivers for them.

If after completing the above you still have resource conflicts, boot to Safe Mode

and remove Any/All devices that are listed more than once (Duplicate device

listings). Do Not remove anything in the "System Devices" category.

Once you have finished removing the items listed above close out of DM and reboot

the machine.

Windows should redetect the devices and reinstall the drivers for them.

>

> The "use automatic setings" box is checked. If I uncheck it the "Setting

> based on" reads "Basic configuration 0000" and there are no other options in

> the pull down tab. The "Change Setting" box can be clicked in this mode

> (was greyed out in automatic settings mode) but it says "This resource

> setting cannot be modified"

If after completing the above does not resolve the issue, check the BIOS for the

PnP setting and Disable it if it's enabled or Enable it if it's disabled.

Save the settings and exit the BIOS.

In DM see if the issue is resolved and if not check the Resources for conflicts. If

conflicts exist, uncheck "use automatic setings" and try to change them to another

resource if available.

Respond back with the results.

--

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Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

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