Unable to boot/start win98 computer

[Guest LewB]

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

 

 

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LJB

 

 

"glee" wrote:

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:AEAB9FA3-C7F0-4F53-93A0-70F3053B3305@microsoft.com...

> >> snip

> >> You still have a conflict. As Glen mentioned earlier:

> >> <quote>

> >> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

> >> display

> >> adapter.

> >> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

> >> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

> >> </quote>

> >>

> >> Let me add to that. Click on each resource listed to see which is the

> >> conflicting

> >> one. It appears to me that earlier when you mentioned that it reported no

> >> conflicts

> >> that you only saw what was reported for the selected resource in the list.

> >>

> >> Another thing, you mentioned that the resources were selected to "Set

> >> Configuration

> >> Manually", uncheck that and let the system configure them to see if it clears up

> >> the

> >> issue.

> >

> > In "Resources/conflicting device list are two entries:

> > 1)Memory Range 00000000-07 FFFFFF used by System board extension for PnP

> > BIOS

> > 2) Memory Rabge 00000000-07FFFFF used by Motherboard resources

> >

> > The "use automatic setings" box is checked. If I uncheck it the "Setting

> > based on" reads "Basic configuration 0000" and there are no other options in

> > the pull down tab. The "Change Setting" box can be clicked in this mode

> > (was greyed out in automatic settings mode) but it says "This resource

> > setting cannot be modified"

>

> Go to Control Panel> Add New Hardware. Have it search your system for new hardware.

> It may find some things like Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI), Plug

> and Play Bios, and/or System Board. If it does, choose to install them all.

 

When I go to Add New Hardware the

New Hardware Wizard" comes up followed by Windows searching for any new Plug

and Play devices. In the Devices section the SiS 300/305 device show but

when I click to have it installed it says the "device is already installed,

but it has a problem" And going to "Finish" I am taken again to the same SiS

300/305 properties screen that came up in Device Manager/properties

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

 

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

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>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

>> news:AEAB9FA3-C7F0-4F53-93A0-70F3053B3305@microsoft.com...

>> >> snip

>> >> You still have a conflict. As Glen mentioned earlier:

>> >> <quote>

>> >> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

>> >> display

>> >> adapter.

>> >> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

>> >> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is

>> >> listed?

>> >> </quote>

>> >>

>> >> Let me add to that. Click on each resource listed to see which is the

>> >> conflicting

>> >> one. It appears to me that earlier when you mentioned that it reported no

>> >> conflicts

>> >> that you only saw what was reported for the selected resource in the list.

>> >>

>> >> Another thing, you mentioned that the resources were selected to "Set

>> >> Configuration

>> >> Manually", uncheck that and let the system configure them to see if it clears

>> >> up

>> >> the

>> >> issue.

>> >

>> > In "Resources/conflicting device list are two entries:

>> > 1)Memory Range 00000000-07 FFFFFF used by System board extension for PnP

>> > BIOS

>> > 2) Memory Rabge 00000000-07FFFFF used by Motherboard resources

>> >

>> > The "use automatic setings" box is checked. If I uncheck it the "Setting

>> > based on" reads "Basic configuration 0000" and there are no other options in

>> > the pull down tab. The "Change Setting" box can be clicked in this mode

>> > (was greyed out in automatic settings mode) but it says "This resource

>> > setting cannot be modified"

>>

>> Go to Control Panel> Add New Hardware. Have it search your system for new

>> hardware.

>> It may find some things like Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI),

>> Plug

>> and Play Bios, and/or System Board. If it does, choose to install them all.

>

> When I go to Add New Hardware the

> New Hardware Wizard" comes up followed by Windows searching for any new Plug

> and Play devices. In the Devices section the SiS 300/305 device show but

> when I click to have it installed it says the "device is already installed,

> but it has a problem" And going to "Finish" I am taken again to the same SiS

> 300/305 properties screen that came up in Device Manager/properties

 

Alright, then continue with Brian's checklist of procedures in his reply,

please....they are the same as what I would recommend. Note that if you make the

change in the BIOS for PnP Operating System (enable/disable), you may need to at the

same time enable the BIOS setting to Update ESCD, in order to allow settings to be

rearranged after saving the changes and restarting.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

[Guest LewB]

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

 

 

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LJB

 

 

"Brian A." wrote:

> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> news:AEAB9FA3-C7F0-4F53-93A0-70F3053B3305@microsoft.com...

> >

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> >

> > "Brian A." wrote:

> >

> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> news:AB934922-936A-46A5-87F2-872C56E0D2EF@microsoft.com...

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Replies inline.....

> >> >>

> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message

> >> >> news:24FBB692-9D14-4A6E-A782-FA3A3771F599@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> > snip

> >> >> >> Go to Control Panel> Display> Settings tab> Advanced button> Adapter tab.

> >> >> >> What adapter is listed there as the installed adapter?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I have a Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). It seems like a generic card

> >> >> > was chose by the person who built this for me 8 years ago.

> >> >> > In device status the message says "this device cannot find any free

> >> >> > Input/Output Range [i/O] resources to use (Code 12)"

> >> >>

> >> >> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

> >> >> display

> >> >> adapter.

> >> >> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

> >> >> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

> >> >

> >> > No conflicting device is listed. Above this is "Set Configuration Manually"

> >> > and above this are several messages: "This device cannot find any free

> >> > Input/Output Range (I/O) resources that it can use" and "If you want to use

> >> > this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system

> >> > that has a Input/Output Range (I/O) resource conflict with it."

> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >> In the Device Manager> Display Adapters category, is that the only adapter

> >> >> listed?

> >> >

> >> > Yes and with a yellow warning flag in front

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >> Does the machine only have a video card, or does it also have onboard video

> >> >> (integrated in the motherboard) that is not in use? You can tell, if there is

> >> >> a

> >> >> second VGA connector on the back of the computer up near the mouse and keyboard

> >> >> and

> >> >> USB ports.

> >> >

> >> > No only the one video connector on the back.

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> >> Download, install, and run EVEREST Free Edition:

> >> >> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You can use it to find the true identity of your display adapter so you can

> >> >> >> download

> >> >> >> drivers for it if needed.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I downloaded and installed this program. It confirms what is displayed in

> >> >> > Device Manager/display adapters. The installed drivers are "vga.drv".

> >> >> > Also says the 3D Accelerator is "SS 300/305" but there is a yellow cross on

> >> >> > a black background and I don't know what this icon means unless it represents

> >> >> > an error??

> >> >>

> >> >> That's a DirectX icon. The name listed there is your actual video chipset,

> >> >> which

> >> >> you typo'ed:

> >> >> it's SiS 300/305

> >> >>

> >> >> Go here: http://www.sis.com/download/

> >> >> Agree to the license agreement (check the "I agree" box and click the button).

> >> >> Choose your operating system in the first box (Win 98 SE).

> >> >> In the second box, choose GPU Graphics Drivers.

> >> >> In the third box, choose SiS300/SiS305 series GPU.

> >> >> Click the GO button.

> >> >>

> >> >> In the next window, choose the location for the download (your country), then

> >> >> click

> >> >> the Download Now button and save the .zip file to a folder on your hard drive

> >> >> where

> >> >> you can access it later. The file is named 300_115_win9x.zip

> >> >>

> >> >> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the C:\ drive. In the root of the C:

> >> >> drive,

> >> >> create a new folder and name it SIS. Now you have a folder at C:\SIS

> >> >>

> >> >> Open the downloaded .zip file with a program like WinZip (http://www.winzip.com).

> >> >> Choose to extract ALL the files to the C:\SIS folder, but Make Sure you select

> >> >> the

> >> >> option in WinZip to "Use folder names"...the option will be a checkbox in the

> >> >> extract dialog box where you choose the folder to extract to. That option will

> >> >> allow the files to be extracted into the folder along with all the sub-folders

> >> >> that

> >> >> are set up in the .zip file.

> >> >>

> >> >> When extracted, there will be a number of sub-folders in the C:\SIS folder now.

> >> >> Close WinZip and ALL other programs and windows, and disable your anti-virus.

> >> >> Go to the "win9x" folder (at C:\SIS\win9x) and double-click the Setup.exe file

> >> >> to

> >> >> begin driver installation.

> >> >

> >> > Well I did all of that. There were 4 setup folders including the setup.exe.

> >> > THe program was installed and now on Device Manager/Display adapters the SiS

> >> > 300/305 is listed instead of "Standard PCI Graphic Adapter" with a yellow

> >> > flag in front. But the display remains the same, no control over fonts,

> >> > monitor resolution, etc.

> >>

> >> You still have a conflict. As Glen mentioned earlier:

> >> <quote>

> >> In Device Manager, expand Display Adapters category, then double-click your

> >> display

> >> adapter.

> >> On its Properties Sheet, click the Resources tab.

> >> At the bottom, in the box that shows "Conflicting device list", what is listed?

> >> </quote>

> >>

> >> Let me add to that. Click on each resource listed to see which is the

> >> conflicting

> >> one. It appears to me that earlier when you mentioned that it reported no

> >> conflicts

> >> that you only saw what was reported for the selected resource in the list.

> >>

> >> Another thing, you mentioned that the resources were selected to "Set

> >> Configuration

> >> Manually", uncheck that and let the system configure them to see if it clears up

> >> the

> >> issue.

> >

> > In "Resources/conflicting device list are two entries:

> > 1)Memory Range 00000000-07 FFFFFF used by System board extension for PnP

> > BIOS

> > 2) Memory Rabge 00000000-07FFFFF used by Motherboard resources

>

> In DM at the top of the pane select the tic input circle "View devices by

> connection".

> Locate the "System board extension for PnP" and "Motherboard resources".

> Expand "Advanced Configuration and........" and anything else if you need to in order

> to locate the listed items above.

> Right click on each device listed above once located.

> Click "Remove" in the popup menu of each item listed above.

> Once you have finished removing the items listed above close out of DM and reboot the

> machine.

> Windows should redetect the devices and reinstall the drivers for them.

>

> If after completing the above you still have resource conflicts, boot to Safe Mode

> and remove Any/All devices that are listed more than once (Duplicate device

> listings). Do Not remove anything in the "System Devices" category.

> Once you have finished removing the items listed above close out of DM and reboot

> the machine.

> Windows should redetect the devices and reinstall the drivers for them.

 

I made all of the changes and rebooted several times from Windows and

Windows Safe Mode but the resource conflict remains. There were no

duplicates in the DM in safe mode and in this mode "view devices by

connection" is grayed out so I could not tell if there were duplicates in

that area.

>

> >

> > The "use automatic setings" box is checked. If I uncheck it the "Setting

> > based on" reads "Basic configuration 0000" and there are no other options in

> > the pull down tab. The "Change Setting" box can be clicked in this mode

> > (was greyed out in automatic settings mode) but it says "This resource

> > setting cannot be modified"

>

> If after completing the above does not resolve the issue, check the BIOS for the

> PnP setting and Disable it if it's enabled or Enable it if it's disabled.

> Save the settings and exit the BIOS.

> In DM see if the issue is resolved and if not check the Resources for conflicts. If

> conflicts exist, uncheck "use automatic setings" and try to change them to another

> resource if available.

> Respond back with the results.

 

In the BIOS (CMOS SETUP UTILITY) the only PnP section is labeled "PNP/PCI

Configuration" and there is only a "PNP OS Installed" option that had a "no"

so I changes to a "yes" but noted no difference There are two other options

in this screen:

1) Force Update ESCD (this is listed as disabled)

2) Resources Controlled by: (and this is listed as "auto")

 

On the right side are "assign IRQ for VGA" that is enabled and Assign IRQ

for USB that is enabled. There is a BIOS Features Setup section as one of

the 12 folders in the CMOS SETUP UTILITY but there are no PnP notations here.

 

For clarification the heading in the CMOS is:

ROM PCI/ISA BIOS (2A69KA1V)

CMOS SETUP UTILITY

AWARD SOFTWARE, INC

 

followed by the 12 sections, six on a side.

 

 

 

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

>

>

>

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

 

<snipped>

>> If after completing the above does not resolve the issue, check the BIOS for the

>> PnP setting and Disable it if it's enabled or Enable it if it's disabled.

>> Save the settings and exit the BIOS.

>> In DM see if the issue is resolved and if not check the Resources for conflicts.

>> If

>> conflicts exist, uncheck "use automatic setings" and try to change them to another

>> resource if available.

>> Respond back with the results.

>

> In the BIOS (CMOS SETUP UTILITY) the only PnP section is labeled "PNP/PCI

> Configuration" and there is only a "PNP OS Installed" option that had a "no"

> so I changes to a "yes" but noted no difference

 

Ok, finally located a BIOS setting manual for the board.

Leave Yes selected.

 

There are two other options

> in this screen:

> 1) Force Update ESCD (this is listed as disabled)

 

As Glen mentioned in his previous response:

<quote>

Note that if you make the

change in the BIOS for PnP Operating System (enable/disable), you may need to at the

same time enable the BIOS setting to Update ESCD, in order to allow settings to be

rearranged after saving the changes and restarting.

</quote>

 

Enable "Force Update ESCD" to make the changes, it will automatically reset to

Disabled at the next boot after.

> 2) Resources Controlled by: (and this is listed as "auto")

 

Change it to Manual.

>

> On the right side are "assign IRQ for VGA" that is enabled and Assign IRQ

> for USB that is enabled. There is a BIOS Features Setup section as one of

> the 12 folders in the CMOS SETUP UTILITY but there are no PnP notations here.

>

> For clarification the heading in the CMOS is:

> ROM PCI/ISA BIOS (2A69KA1V)

> CMOS SETUP UTILITY

> AWARD SOFTWARE, INC

 

In the "Power Management Setup" set "ACPI function" as Enabled if it is not already

set.

Press F10 > Y to save the settings and exit.

 

--

 

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[Guest glee]

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

 

I wonder what happened to Lew, and if he ever got any further with this.......

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

 

 

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

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> <snipped>

>> In the BIOS (CMOS SETUP UTILITY) the only PnP section is labeled "PNP/PCI

>> Configuration" and there is only a "PNP OS Installed" option that had a "no"

>> so I changes to a "yes" but noted no difference

>

> Ok, finally located a BIOS setting manual for the board.

> Leave Yes selected.

>

> There are two other options

>> in this screen:

>> 1) Force Update ESCD (this is listed as disabled)

>

> As Glen mentioned in his previous response:

> <quote>

> Note that if you make the

> change in the BIOS for PnP Operating System (enable/disable), you may need to at

> the

> same time enable the BIOS setting to Update ESCD, in order to allow settings to be

> rearranged after saving the changes and restarting.

> </quote>

>

> Enable "Force Update ESCD" to make the changes, it will automatically reset to

> Disabled at the next boot after.

>

>> 2) Resources Controlled by: (and this is listed as "auto")

>

> Change it to Manual.

>

>>

>> On the right side are "assign IRQ for VGA" that is enabled and Assign IRQ

>> for USB that is enabled. There is a BIOS Features Setup section as one of

>> the 12 folders in the CMOS SETUP UTILITY but there are no PnP notations here.

>>

>> For clarification the heading in the CMOS is:

>> ROM PCI/ISA BIOS (2A69KA1V)

>> CMOS SETUP UTILITY

>> AWARD SOFTWARE, INC

>

> In the "Power Management Setup" set "ACPI function" as Enabled if it is not

> already set.

> Press F10 > Y to save the settings and exit.

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: Unable to boot/start win98 computer

 

Ditto.

 

--

 

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

 

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

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>I wonder what happened to Lew, and if he ever got any further with this.......

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

>

> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> news:%23fUxleLMIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> <snipped>

>>> In the BIOS (CMOS SETUP UTILITY) the only PnP section is labeled "PNP/PCI

>>> Configuration" and there is only a "PNP OS Installed" option that had a "no"

>>> so I changes to a "yes" but noted no difference

>>

>> Ok, finally located a BIOS setting manual for the board.

>> Leave Yes selected.

>>

>> There are two other options

>>> in this screen:

>>> 1) Force Update ESCD (this is listed as disabled)

>>

>> As Glen mentioned in his previous response:

>> <quote>

>> Note that if you make the

>> change in the BIOS for PnP Operating System (enable/disable), you may need to at

>> the

>> same time enable the BIOS setting to Update ESCD, in order to allow settings to be

>> rearranged after saving the changes and restarting.

>> </quote>

>>

>> Enable "Force Update ESCD" to make the changes, it will automatically reset to

>> Disabled at the next boot after.

>>

>>> 2) Resources Controlled by: (and this is listed as "auto")

>>

>> Change it to Manual.

>>

>>>

>>> On the right side are "assign IRQ for VGA" that is enabled and Assign IRQ

>>> for USB that is enabled. There is a BIOS Features Setup section as one of

>>> the 12 folders in the CMOS SETUP UTILITY but there are no PnP notations here.

>>>

>>> For clarification the heading in the CMOS is:

>>> ROM PCI/ISA BIOS (2A69KA1V)

>>> CMOS SETUP UTILITY

>>> AWARD SOFTWARE, INC

>>

>> In the "Power Management Setup" set "ACPI function" as Enabled if it is not

>> already set.

>> Press F10 > Y to save the settings and exit.

>