Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

[Guest Gary]

Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated 4-14-1999.

 

On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several times)

before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

 

Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated 2002-11-14.

Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix or

cause more troubles?

[Guest MEB]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

 

 

"Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message

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| Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated

4-14-1999.

|

| On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

| settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

| resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several times)

| before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

| 1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

|

| Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated 2002-11-14.

| Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix

or

| cause more troubles?

|

 

The answer to that is a big MAYBE...

 

As you recently had a registry problem AND display problem, it might be

prudent to ensure any fans in the case and on the video card, CPU, etc., are

functioning properly.

 

If all checks out Okay, might want to gently wiggle the video card [if an

adapter card] and make sure it has good contact. Older systems pick up

corrosion and fans fail, so periodically checking the plugged in cards,

memory, and processor is a good idea... make sure you follow ESD procedures

and unplug the computer, peripherals, and monitor before touching anything

in the interior ..

 

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[Guest Gary]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

Recently removed one side of the case. Fan is running. No change in

problem. Good thought to check the video card IF there is one. I think it

may be built into the mother board!

 

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

Gary

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>

> "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message

> news:O%23bbjI7KIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated

> 4-14-1999.

> |

> | On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

> | settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

> | resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several

> times)

> | before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

> | 1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

> |

> | Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated

> 2002-11-14.

> | Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix

> or

> | cause more troubles?

> |

>

> The answer to that is a big MAYBE...

>

> As you recently had a registry problem AND display problem, it might be

> prudent to ensure any fans in the case and on the video card, CPU, etc.,

> are

> functioning properly.

>

> If all checks out Okay, might want to gently wiggle the video card [if an

> adapter card] and make sure it has good contact. Older systems pick up

> corrosion and fans fail, so periodically checking the plugged in cards,

> memory, and processor is a good idea... make sure you follow ESD

> procedures

> and unplug the computer, peripherals, and monitor before touching anything

> in the interior ..

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

>

>

[Guest Gary]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

Just as I thought. The display cable plugs directly into the mother

board!!!

 

Gary

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>

> "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message

> news:O%23bbjI7KIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated

> 4-14-1999.

> |

> | On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

> | settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

> | resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several

> times)

> | before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

> | 1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

> |

> | Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated

> 2002-11-14.

> | Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix

> or

> | cause more troubles?

> |

>

> The answer to that is a big MAYBE...

>

> As you recently had a registry problem AND display problem, it might be

> prudent to ensure any fans in the case and on the video card, CPU, etc.,

> are

> functioning properly.

>

> If all checks out Okay, might want to gently wiggle the video card [if an

> adapter card] and make sure it has good contact. Older systems pick up

> corrosion and fans fail, so periodically checking the plugged in cards,

> memory, and processor is a good idea... make sure you follow ESD

> procedures

> and unplug the computer, peripherals, and monitor before touching anything

> in the interior ..

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

>

>

[Guest MEB]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

 

"Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message

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| Just as I thought. The display cable plugs directly into the mother

| board!!!

 

Okay, then everything is good in Device Manger?

If so, make sure you uninstall the old driver first, reboot in Safe Mode,

check for ghosts/old drivers and doubled entries [all devices], write down

if any and remove; restart in Normal Mode, and install the new,,, reboot,

run Find New Hardware to see if everything is installed

Hopefully that will fix the issue, if not then other things may need

checked. [Noted you already checked memory so that's out of the way.]

 

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[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:15:56 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated 4-14-1999.

>

>On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

>settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

>resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several times)

>before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

>1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

>

>Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated 2002-11-14.

>Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix or

>cause more troubles?

 

Do you have more than one monitor showing up in Device Manager? If so,

is it possible that your machine is sometimes unable to detect your

monitor type, in which case it could be reverting to a "standard"

monitor ???

 

Onboard graphics shares system RAM. How much RAM do you see in the

General tab of Device Manager? When the machine misbehaves, is there

enough RAM assigned to the graphics subsystem to support a resolution

greater than 640x480 ???

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest Gary]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

 

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:15:56 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated

>>4-14-1999.

>>

>>On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

>>settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

>>resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several times)

>>before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

>>1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

>>

>>Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated 2002-11-14.

>>Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix

>>or

>>cause more troubles?

>

> Do you have more than one monitor showing up in Device Manager? If so,

> is it possible that your machine is sometimes unable to detect your

> monitor type, in which case it could be reverting to a "standard"

> monitor ???

>

 

Only one monitor showing!

 

Cabnt find any where to determine how much memory is available to display

device. Normally it uses 8k.

> Onboard graphics shares system RAM. How much RAM do you see in the

> General tab of Device Manager? When the machine misbehaves, is there

> enough RAM assigned to the graphics subsystem to support a resolution

> greater than 640x480 ???

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

 

Just started with 640x480! Cant change settings so will have to reboot.

Can't find any where to determine how much memory is available to display

device. Normally it uses 8k.

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Guest Gary]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

 

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:15:56 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated

>>4-14-1999.

>>

>>On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

>>settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

>>resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several times)

>>before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

>>1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

>>

>>Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated 2002-11-14.

>>Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix

>>or

>>cause more troubles?

>

> Do you have more than one monitor showing up in Device Manager? If so,

> is it possible that your machine is sometimes unable to detect your

> monitor type, in which case it could be reverting to a "standard"

> monitor ???

>

> Onboard graphics shares system RAM. How much RAM do you see in the

> General tab of Device Manager? When the machine misbehaves, is there

> enough RAM assigned to the graphics subsystem to support a resolution

> greater than 640x480 ???

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

PS: Device manager, general shows available ram at 312 meg byte. That

should leave 8meg for the monitor as total ram is 320meg (two sticks of

memory 256 +64megs)

 

Gary

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:30:56 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>news:r9v8k3d4s0j67o9r0ib7vdg3d4tbg2jf2d@4ax.com...

>> Onboard graphics shares system RAM. How much RAM do you see in the

>> General tab of Device Manager? When the machine misbehaves, is there

>> enough RAM assigned to the graphics subsystem to support a resolution

>> greater than 640x480 ???

>>

>> - Franc Zabkar

>

>PS: Device manager, general shows available ram at 312 meg byte. That

>should leave 8meg for the monitor as total ram is 320meg (two sticks of

>memory 256 +64megs)

>

>Gary

 

That's more than enough. It seems that Windows is falling back to a

standard VGA driver for some reason, though. Maybe you can see

something by r-clicking a blank area of your desktop and then

selecting Settings -> Advanced -> Adapter -> Current files.

 

Otherwise the only suggestions I can offer are to check the RAM

timings in your BIOS (I have had timing issues with SiS onboard

graphics and 72-pin SIMMs), and to disable video caching in your BIOS

setup (I have had strange video issues, especially during shutdown).

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest Gary]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

 

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:30:56 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>>news:r9v8k3d4s0j67o9r0ib7vdg3d4tbg2jf2d@4ax.com...

>

>>> Onboard graphics shares system RAM. How much RAM do you see in the

>>> General tab of Device Manager? When the machine misbehaves, is there

>>> enough RAM assigned to the graphics subsystem to support a resolution

>>> greater than 640x480 ???

>>>

>>> - Franc Zabkar

>>

>>PS: Device manager, general shows available ram at 312 meg byte. That

>>should leave 8meg for the monitor as total ram is 320meg (two sticks of

>>memory 256 +64megs)

>>

>>Gary

>

> That's more than enough. It seems that Windows is falling back to a

> standard VGA driver for some reason, though. Maybe you can see

> something by r-clicking a blank area of your desktop and then

> selecting Settings -> Advanced -> Adapter -> Current files.

>

> Otherwise the only suggestions I can offer are to check the RAM

> timings in your BIOS (I have had timing issues with SiS onboard

> graphics and 72-pin SIMMs), and to disable video caching in your BIOS

> setup (I have had strange video issues, especially during shutdown).

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

Per Settings -> Advanced -> Adapter -> Current files.

get sis530.drv "vdd.sis530v.vxd,dd530_32.dll

 

The system used to work. May be related to changing from crt to flat panel

monitor. Can't remember if this problem started before the new monitor! No

known changes to the video/memory system other wise.

 

It could be a shut down problem or a start up as this always occurs on a

fresh boot.

 

I guess that I will have to bite the bullet and switch monitors!

 

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

Gary

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:05:24 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>news:38mjk3hnle4gc65do7ps2p4t1g2400ad5l@4ax.com...

>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:30:56 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

>> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>>

>>>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>>>news:r9v8k3d4s0j67o9r0ib7vdg3d4tbg2jf2d@4ax.com...

>>

>>>> Onboard graphics shares system RAM. How much RAM do you see in the

>>>> General tab of Device Manager? When the machine misbehaves, is there

>>>> enough RAM assigned to the graphics subsystem to support a resolution

>>>> greater than 640x480 ???

>>>>

>>>> - Franc Zabkar

>>>

>>>PS: Device manager, general shows available ram at 312 meg byte. That

>>>should leave 8meg for the monitor as total ram is 320meg (two sticks of

>>>memory 256 +64megs)

>>>

>>>Gary

>>

>> That's more than enough. It seems that Windows is falling back to a

>> standard VGA driver for some reason, though. Maybe you can see

>> something by r-clicking a blank area of your desktop and then

>> selecting Settings -> Advanced -> Adapter -> Current files.

>>

>> Otherwise the only suggestions I can offer are to check the RAM

>> timings in your BIOS (I have had timing issues with SiS onboard

>> graphics and 72-pin SIMMs), and to disable video caching in your BIOS

>> setup (I have had strange video issues, especially during shutdown).

>>

>> - Franc Zabkar

>> --

>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

>

>Per Settings -> Advanced -> Adapter -> Current files.

>get sis530.drv "vdd.sis530v.vxd,dd530_32.dll

>

>The system used to work. May be related to changing from crt to flat panel

>monitor. Can't remember if this problem started before the new monitor! No

>known changes to the video/memory system other wise.

>

>It could be a shut down problem or a start up as this always occurs on a

>fresh boot.

>

>I guess that I will have to bite the bullet and switch monitors!

 

You could have a look at the Monitor settings in your registry.

 

Go to Start -> Run, type regedit, and then navigate to the following

key:

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Monitor

 

This appears to be the key for your graphics card/chip:

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display

 

Maybe the "MODES" settings will tell you something ???

>Thanks for the suggestions.

>

>Gary

 

I may be way off base but ...

 

The following tech note is written for Win95, but might be of some

help. You could use Sysedit to check the [boot] section of system.ini

after a 640x480 reboot.

 

Description of "*DisplayFallback=" Entry in System.ini File

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q135103/

 

=================================================================

SUMMARY

 

Windows 95 Setup adds the following line to the [boot] section of the

System.ini file:

 

*DisplayFallback=0

 

This line allows Windows 95 to use the standard VGA driver if the

preferred video driver fails to load during the setup process.

 

MORE INFORMATION

 

User.exe adds this line to the System.ini file just before loading a

display driver. If the specified driver fails to load, the value of

the line is changed to 1, the computer is restarted, and the standard

VGA driver is loaded.

 

Note that the DisplayFallback feature does not work properly with

video drivers written for earlier versions of Windows.

=================================================================

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest MEB]

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"Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message

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|

| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

| news:38mjk3hnle4gc65do7ps2p4t1g2400ad5l@4ax.com...

| > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:30:56 -0600, "Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net>

| > put finger to keyboard and composed:

| >

| >>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

| >>news:r9v8k3d4s0j67o9r0ib7vdg3d4tbg2jf2d@4ax.com...

| >

| >>> Onboard graphics shares system RAM. How much RAM do you see in the

| >>> General tab of Device Manager? When the machine misbehaves, is there

| >>> enough RAM assigned to the graphics subsystem to support a resolution

| >>> greater than 640x480 ???

| >>>

| >>> - Franc Zabkar

| >>

| >>PS: Device manager, general shows available ram at 312 meg byte. That

| >>should leave 8meg for the monitor as total ram is 320meg (two sticks of

| >>memory 256 +64megs)

| >>

| >>Gary

| >

| > That's more than enough. It seems that Windows is falling back to a

| > standard VGA driver for some reason, though. Maybe you can see

| > something by r-clicking a blank area of your desktop and then

| > selecting Settings -> Advanced -> Adapter -> Current files.

| >

| > Otherwise the only suggestions I can offer are to check the RAM

| > timings in your BIOS (I have had timing issues with SiS onboard

| > graphics and 72-pin SIMMs), and to disable video caching in your BIOS

| > setup (I have had strange video issues, especially during shutdown).

| >

| > - Franc Zabkar

| > --

| > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

|

| Per Settings -> Advanced -> Adapter -> Current files.

| get sis530.drv "vdd.sis530v.vxd,dd530_32.dll

|

| The system used to work. May be related to changing from crt to flat

panel

| monitor. Can't remember if this problem started before the new monitor!

No

| known changes to the video/memory system other wise.

|

| It could be a shut down problem or a start up as this always occurs on a

| fresh boot.

|

| I guess that I will have to bite the bullet and switch monitors!

|

| Thanks for the suggestions.

|

| Gary

|

 

Not necessarily.. unless you changed the display device, i.e., the

monitor/CRT to flat screen, you will NOT be able to change the settings. CRT

registry settings are not the same as flat panel/screen devices.

The device should have come with an INF device file, at least... or you

will need to locate one.

 

I would suggest installing the flat panel INF, un-installing/re-installing

the video adapter driver as it may make some modifications to itself during

installation per that type of display..

 

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Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in

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<SNIP>

> ============================================================

> ===== SUMMARY

>

> Windows 95 Setup adds the following line to the [boot]

> section of the System.ini file:

>

> *DisplayFallback=0

>

> This line allows Windows 95 to use the standard VGA driver

> if the preferred video driver fails to load during the

> setup process.

>

> MORE INFORMATION

>

> User.exe adds this line to the System.ini file just before

> loading a display driver. If the specified driver fails to

> load, the value of the line is changed to 1, the computer

> is restarted, and the standard VGA driver is loaded.

>

> Note that the DisplayFallback feature does not work

> properly with video drivers written for earlier versions of

> Windows.

> ============================================================

> =====

>

> - Franc Zabkar

 

I haven't read the prior parts of the thread, but has someone

suggested the OP check to make sure some "unsuspecting user

installs a piece of new hardware" gremlin didn't lower the max

allotment of RAM for video in the BIOS?

[Guest MEB]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

Actually, I think this is the same Gary who had some registry and computer

issues previously...

 

Kind of skipping around trying to correct issues while blind-folded...

 

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| Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in

| news:ohtjk3d211qf65epkbithgf39o8h3efj9a@4ax.com:

|

| <SNIP>

|

| > ============================================================

| > ===== SUMMARY

| >

| > Windows 95 Setup adds the following line to the [boot]

| > section of the System.ini file:

| >

| > *DisplayFallback=0

| >

| > This line allows Windows 95 to use the standard VGA driver

| > if the preferred video driver fails to load during the

| > setup process.

| >

| > MORE INFORMATION

| >

| > User.exe adds this line to the System.ini file just before

| > loading a display driver. If the specified driver fails to

| > load, the value of the line is changed to 1, the computer

| > is restarted, and the standard VGA driver is loaded.

| >

| > Note that the DisplayFallback feature does not work

| > properly with video drivers written for earlier versions of

| > Windows.

| > ============================================================

| > =====

| >

| > - Franc Zabkar

|

| I haven't read the prior parts of the thread, but has someone

| suggested the OP check to make sure some "unsuspecting user

| installs a piece of new hardware" gremlin didn't lower the max

| allotment of RAM for video in the BIOS?

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

On 26 Nov 2007 07:39:05 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>I haven't read the prior parts of the thread, but has someone

>suggested the OP check to make sure some "unsuspecting user

>installs a piece of new hardware" gremlin didn't lower the max

>allotment of RAM for video in the BIOS?

 

Yes, I suggested something along those lines and the reply was that

8MB was shared.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in

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> On 26 Nov 2007 07:39:05 GMT, thanatoid

> <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put finger to keyboard and

> composed:

>

>>I haven't read the prior parts of the thread, but has

>>someone suggested the OP check to make sure some

>>"unsuspecting user installs a piece of new hardware"

>>gremlin didn't lower the max allotment of RAM for video in

>>the BIOS?

>

> Yes, I suggested something along those lines and the reply

> was that 8MB was shared.

>

> - Franc Zabkar

 

Wouldn't you say 8MB is rather a small amount for 800x600 let

alone a higher resolution with 16 million colors? Especially

when the OP has what, 320 MB of RAM or something? I have 256 on

my Win98SE Lite machine and have 64MB (or 48, can't remember)

assigned to video and still have 150 MB left free most of the

time.

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

On 27 Nov 2007 00:23:39 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in

>news:gc4mk3915vrlbn1bmuh2q73mgnoftq7r7a@4ax.com:

>

>> On 26 Nov 2007 07:39:05 GMT, thanatoid

>> <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put finger to keyboard and

>> composed:

>>

>>>I haven't read the prior parts of the thread, but has

>>>someone suggested the OP check to make sure some

>>>"unsuspecting user installs a piece of new hardware"

>>>gremlin didn't lower the max allotment of RAM for video in

>>>the BIOS?

>>

>> Yes, I suggested something along those lines and the reply

>> was that 8MB was shared.

>>

>> - Franc Zabkar

>

>Wouldn't you say 8MB is rather a small amount for 800x600 let

>alone a higher resolution with 16 million colors? Especially

>when the OP has what, 320 MB of RAM or something? I have 256 on

>my Win98SE Lite machine and have 64MB (or 48, can't remember)

>assigned to video and still have 150 MB left free most of the

>time.

 

My old PCChips M571 motherboard (based on an SiS 5597/5598 chipset)

was configured to use only 2MB (although I could have chosen 8MB).

This was enough for 1024x768 at 16 bit colour depth.

 

The amount of RAM needed to support 1024x768 at 24 bits per pixel is

....

 

1024 x 768 x 24/8 bytes

= 768 x 3 KB

= 2304KB

 

At 16 bits the requirement is only 768 x 2 = 1536KB.

 

Of course I don't do anything more than basic 2D stuff, ie image

viewing, Youtube videos, etc.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest thanatoid]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in

news:92ank39i2uogunv37nfs39pamqih5i55h1@4ax.com:

 

<SNIP>

> My old PCChips M571 motherboard (based on an SiS 5597/5598

> chipset) was configured to use only 2MB (although I could

> have chosen 8MB). This was enough for 1024x768 at 16 bit

> colour depth.

>

> The amount of RAM needed to support 1024x768 at 24 bits per

> pixel is ...

>

> 1024 x 768 x 24/8 bytes

> = 768 x 3 KB

> = 2304KB

>

> At 16 bits the requirement is only 768 x 2 = 1536KB.

>

> Of course I don't do anything more than basic 2D stuff, ie

> image viewing, Youtube videos, etc.

 

Wow. It's been a long time since I've had to think about this

stuff... Thanks for the explanation.

 

I guess it's really just gamers who want 150 fps (WITH smoke and

reflections) that need all the memory...

[Guest Curt Christianson]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change

 

Thanks for the info. Franc. Like thanatoid, I hadn't thought about that in

a long time. I wondered for quite some time how I could get by with

stealing 8MB from RAM for video, but apparently it's more than enough. I'm

certainly not a gamer--unless you want to consider "Spider Solitaire"

gaming. <VBG> Please keep up with your excellent information. You're a

"guru" around these parts!

 

--

HTH,

Curt

http://www.aumha.org

 

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

news:92ank39i2uogunv37nfs39pamqih5i55h1@4ax.com...

> On 27 Nov 2007 00:23:39 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in

>>news:gc4mk3915vrlbn1bmuh2q73mgnoftq7r7a@4ax.com:

>>

>>> On 26 Nov 2007 07:39:05 GMT, thanatoid

>>> <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put finger to keyboard and

>>> composed:

>>>

>>>>I haven't read the prior parts of the thread, but has

>>>>someone suggested the OP check to make sure some

>>>>"unsuspecting user installs a piece of new hardware"

>>>>gremlin didn't lower the max allotment of RAM for video in

>>>>the BIOS?

>>>

>>> Yes, I suggested something along those lines and the reply

>>> was that 8MB was shared.

>>>

>>> - Franc Zabkar

>>

>>Wouldn't you say 8MB is rather a small amount for 800x600 let

>>alone a higher resolution with 16 million colors? Especially

>>when the OP has what, 320 MB of RAM or something? I have 256 on

>>my Win98SE Lite machine and have 64MB (or 48, can't remember)

>>assigned to video and still have 150 MB left free most of the

>>time.

>

> My old PCChips M571 motherboard (based on an SiS 5597/5598 chipset)

> was configured to use only 2MB (although I could have chosen 8MB).

> This was enough for 1024x768 at 16 bit colour depth.

>

> The amount of RAM needed to support 1024x768 at 24 bits per pixel is

> ...

>

> 1024 x 768 x 24/8 bytes

> = 768 x 3 KB

> = 2304KB

>

> At 16 bits the requirement is only 768 x 2 = 1536KB.

>

> Of course I don't do anything more than basic 2D stuff, ie image

> viewing, Youtube videos, etc.

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Guest Gary]

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change UPDATE

 

Re: Display loads at 640x480 res & cant change UPDATE

 

Had the settings locked up yesterday and could not fix it after several

reboots! Finally changed the display adapter refresh rate setting from

"optimal" to "display default" and then I could reset the resolution to 1024

x 768. Don't know if this will fix it permanently as I think it has been

this way before!

 

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

 

Gary

 

"Gary" <gspence@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message

news:O%23bbjI7KIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Win 98se with SIS 530 display hardware version 163, driver dated

> 4-14-1999.

>

> On boot sometimes the display comes up at 640x480. Going to

> settings,display,settings, the resolution bar is stuck at the low

> resolution! Can't change it without rebooting (sometimes several times)

> before the resolution bare is unstuck and resolution can be reset to

> 1024x768 with no problem. Things are then ok for several boots!

>

> Checked SIS site and there is a new driver version 1.08 dated 2002-11-14.

> Using a HP vs17e flat panel display. Any chance the new driver will fix

> or

> cause more troubles?

>