Guest lb Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 This has happened twice now in the last 2 weeks. Computer tries to boot and get XMS driver errors. Also himem.sys and emm386 not loading. Sometime I can get to a blank windows desktop but am usually stuck in DOS. If I do get to the windows desktop, there is a message about no mouse found. In all of the failed boots, there is no mouse or keyboard loaded in DOS or windows so I cannot do anything but push the reset button. After probably close to 10 restarts, it boots up and runs like nothing was ever wrong. A boot disk does not help. I am virus and spyware/malware free. This computer is 5 years old, but the hard drive is newer. Any help appreciated.
Guest Paradoxdb3 Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 RE: Boot problems When it comes to problems I cannot figure out, I use the three R's...Reboot in MS DOS mode, Reformat, and Reinstall! Takes me about 4 hours to get the system back up and running like before (better, actually....like NEW!). Plus I heard that it's good to reformat your HDD about once a year anyway to keep the system fresh. After time, the registry can become bogged down with obsolete entries, errors and other "stuff" which gets filed in the folder called "Mysteries Unsolved"! A clean install just feels so nice! Like a shower after seeing two grown men grope each other in public. "lb" wrote: > This has happened twice now in the last 2 weeks. Computer tries to > boot and get XMS driver errors. Also himem.sys and emm386 not > loading. Sometime I can get to a blank windows desktop but am usually > stuck in DOS. If I do get to the windows desktop, there is a message > about no mouse found. In all of the failed boots, there is no mouse > or keyboard loaded in DOS or windows so I cannot do anything but push > the reset button. After probably close to 10 restarts, it boots up > and runs like nothing was ever wrong. A boot disk does not help. I > am virus and spyware/malware free. This computer is 5 years old, but > the hard drive is newer. Any help appreciated. >
Guest Don Phillipson Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Re: Boot problems "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message news:8e4c323a-35c0-402f-9abb-4dd6811688e1@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > This has happened twice now in the last 2 weeks. Computer tries to > boot and get XMS driver errors. Also himem.sys and emm386 not > loading. Sometime I can get to a blank windows desktop but am usually > stuck in DOS. If I do get to the windows desktop, there is a message > about no mouse found. In all of the failed boots, there is no mouse > or keyboard loaded in DOS or windows so I cannot do anything but push > the reset button. After probably close to 10 restarts, it boots up > and runs like nothing was ever wrong. A boot disk does not help. I 1. Boot to a DOS prompt and run SCANREG /RESTORE. Select (if available) a date when this PC booted OK i.e. before the trouble started. 2. Boot into Safe Mode (usually by holding down the Ctl key during reboot) and look at /Control Panel / System / Device Manager where yellow triangles signal problems with devices (which include keyboard and mouse.) 3. Your intermittent problem of DOS prompt and lack of keyboard suggests the problem may be on the motherboard. (No keyboard driver should be needed for a DOS boot.) We cannot forecast whether all you need is to vacuum the interior of the PC clean or replace the PC or MB. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Guest PCR Posted November 24, 2007 Posted November 24, 2007 Re: Boot problems lb wrote: | This has happened twice now in the last 2 weeks. Computer tries to | boot and get XMS driver errors. Also himem.sys and emm386 not | loading. Sometime I can get to a blank windows desktop but am usually | stuck in DOS. If I do get to the windows desktop, there is a message | about no mouse found. In all of the failed boots, there is no mouse | or keyboard loaded in DOS or windows so I cannot do anything but push | the reset button. After probably close to 10 restarts, it boots up | and runs like nothing was ever wrong. A boot disk does not help. I | am virus and spyware/malware free. This computer is 5 years old, but | the hard drive is newer. Any help appreciated. Because it ultimately does boot & work well, I have to think the Windows installation is probably basically good, meaning all your boot files, the MBR (Master Boot Record) & the PBR (Partition Boot Record) are intact. (1) Get the manufacturer's diagnostic program for your hard drive, to see whether it picks up a problem. Here is a list that glee once posted... OnTrack Data Advisor: http://www.ontrack.com/freesoftware/#dataadvisor IBM/Hitachi Drive Fitness Test: http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm Western Digital Data Lifeguard Tools: http://support.wdc.com/download/ Quantum/Maxtor PowerMax: http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=PowerMax_4.23&vgnextoid=a37d8b9c4a8ff010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD or http://www.majorgeeks.com/Maxtor_Powermax_d1386.html Seagate SeaTools for DOS: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools (2) Close all open windows; "START button, Run, DxDiag". This is the DirectX Diagnostic Tool. Could it have a message? (3) R-Clk My Computer, Properties, Performance tab. Are you "optimal" or "compatibility". (4) R-Clk My Computer, Properties, Device Manager tab. Are there red/yellow ?'s/!'s on any icons? (If you end up in blank Windows Help Troubleshooting screens, post back for the cure.) (5) "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode", & enter "Scanreg /Fix /Opt" (not the quotes). The Registry is involved with nearly everything. (Won't work for a Registry around 9 MB huge.) (6) Do a Scandisk & a Defrag, but don't let them constantly restart. If they try, post back for a cure. Also... I must warn that Scandisk may not do a great job when there is a great one to do... http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/scandisk.htm Therefore, perhaps UNcheck "Automatically fix errors" on it's front screen. It will then ask whether you want each error fixed. If it sounds truly horrible, say "No!", and post the log. The log will be "C:\Scandisk.log". (7) http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188867 Troubleshooting Startup http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=187602 Troubleshoot http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926 Clean Boot Troubleshoot -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Re: Boot problems On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:21:47 -0800 (PST), lb <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >This has happened twice now in the last 2 weeks. Computer tries to >boot and get XMS driver errors. Also himem.sys and emm386 not >loading. Sometime I can get to a blank windows desktop but am usually >stuck in DOS. If I do get to the windows desktop, there is a message >about no mouse found. In all of the failed boots, there is no mouse >or keyboard loaded in DOS or windows so I cannot do anything but push >the reset button. After probably close to 10 restarts, it boots up >and runs like nothing was ever wrong. A boot disk does not help. I >am virus and spyware/malware free. This computer is 5 years old, but >the hard drive is newer. Any help appreciated. It sounds to me like you have an intermittent hardware fault, possibly bad RAM or bad connections. I'd remove the RAM sticks and reseat them. I'd do the same for your cards while you're there, and clean the dust out of your fans. Alternatively, you may have a power supply issue, or bad capacitors on the motherboard. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
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