Xp to Win98 coming home.

[Guest 98 Guy]

Rod wrote:

> P4 3Ghz / 800mhz 512ram

> 80Gb sata

> intel 915GAG mobo.

 

This one -> Intel Desktop Board D915GAG ?

> Can I run my darling old W98se on this?

 

According to this:

 

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=1672

 

Win-98 drivers are not available.

 

However, that board has the 915G chipset:

 

http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/cs-011594.htm

 

If you follow the download link for the 915G (chipset software

installation utility) and select win-98se from the drop-down list,

you'll get this:

 

http://tinyurl.com/2mb9n2

 

If you look at the Release Notes for the first item on the list:

 

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/8177/ENG/relnotes.htm

 

Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility

6.3.0.1007 Production Version

Release Notes

 

Yes, it does not list win-98 at the top of the document, but ignore

that. It does list the 915G chipset though.

 

It's never been clear to me if the Intel 915 chipset was fully

supported under win-98. You might be in luck if you install that

driver after installing win-98.

 

So try it:

 

http://tinyurl.com/35q99h

 

One more thing. There is another version of the Intel Chipset

Software Installation Utility, version 6.3.0.1008:

 

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?strstate=live&productid=36&dwnldid=5830&agr=n&lang=eng&prdmap=36

 

Try it as a last resort if version 1007 doesn't work.

> What do I need to do before installation from XP pro SP2

> just reformat?

 

Yes - boot the system from a DOS floppy with fdisk and format on it.

Obtain the updated version of fdisk if you don't have it (it will be

dated May 2000).

[Guest Rod]

Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

I have had just a week of XP, and it's driving me nuts,

updates, patches, activations.

This is seriously not a fun computing experience.

 

So.........

P4 3Ghz / 800mhz 512ram

80Gb sata

intel 915GAG mobo.

 

Can I run my darling old W98se on this?

 

What do I need to do before installation from XP pro SP2

just reformat?

 

I run a large Vis Foxpro database,

and a lrge image database and use usenet

for newsgroups.

no gaming and no whizz bang utilities required.

 

am I in luck?

 

Thanks for any advice, pointers and potential snags.

[Guest alvinamorey@notmail.com]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:05:58 +0800, "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au>

wrote:

>I have had just a week of XP, and it's driving me nuts,

>updates, patches, activations.

>This is seriously not a fun computing experience.

>

 

That was my experience with XP too. I hate the POS.

I'll stick with Win98. OR I have been considering upgrading to WinME.

because of the better USB support. I figure I'll just clone my

installation on another HD, and see what happens when I run ME install

on top of 98.

 

I've never seriously considered changing to another OS, but there is

no way I could live with XP, and Vista is not even a possibliity. I'm

starting to look into Linux. I'd much prefer to just stay with win98,

but it's getting harder and harder to find support and drivers for it,

not to mention software that works with it.

 

I dont use games or any power usage apps, so I really dont need

anything above 98 or ME. It's the software developers and computer

manufacturers who are making it difficult if not impossible to keep

using Win98.

[Guest Dan]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

I would not switch to Windows ME because although it has better general USB

support it has trouble with backwards compatibility with many older games and

it is used even less nowadays than Windows 98. It is also easier to exit to

DOS with 98 Second Edition than Windows ME.

 

"alvinamorey@notmail.com" wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:05:58 +0800, "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au>

> wrote:

>

> >I have had just a week of XP, and it's driving me nuts,

> >updates, patches, activations.

> >This is seriously not a fun computing experience.

> >

>

> That was my experience with XP too. I hate the POS.

> I'll stick with Win98. OR I have been considering upgrading to WinME.

> because of the better USB support. I figure I'll just clone my

> installation on another HD, and see what happens when I run ME install

> on top of 98.

>

> I've never seriously considered changing to another OS, but there is

> no way I could live with XP, and Vista is not even a possibliity. I'm

> starting to look into Linux. I'd much prefer to just stay with win98,

> but it's getting harder and harder to find support and drivers for it,

> not to mention software that works with it.

>

> I dont use games or any power usage apps, so I really dont need

> anything above 98 or ME. It's the software developers and computer

> manufacturers who are making it difficult if not impossible to keep

> using Win98.

>

>

[Guest Rod]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

 

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4746EB71.62D7B839@Guy.com...

> According to this:

> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=1672

> Win-98 drivers are not available.

> However, that board has the 915G chipset:

> http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/cs-011594.htm

 

This appears to be a <very> helpful response,

thank you very much indeed 98guy, I am indebted.

I'll keep you posted.

Being as I can buy P4's for around $60, I'll persist with

the learning curve with XP, as a part time hobby

whilst I carry on with 98

( I couldn't believe something like hiding the file extensions

could be such a source of frustration, I knew then it

was going to be a long learning curve)

 

Thanks also Alvin and Dan, with small footprint desktops,

it's easy to have two computers whilst one adjusts,

but the "bunch of bastards".... the wires behind the boxes

is something to behold :)

R

[Guest Buffalo]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

 

"Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message

news:uutmUldLIHA.3992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> I have had just a week of XP, and it's driving me nuts,

> updates, patches, activations.

> This is seriously not a fun computing experience.

>

> So.........

> P4 3Ghz / 800mhz 512ram

> 80Gb sata

> intel 915GAG mobo.

>

> Can I run my darling old W98se on this?

>

> What do I need to do before installation from XP pro SP2

> just reformat?

>

> I run a large Vis Foxpro database,

> and a lrge image database and use usenet

> for newsgroups.

> no gaming and no whizz bang utilities required.

>

> am I in luck?

>

> Thanks for any advice, pointers and potential snags.

 

Win2000Pro is another OS choice and it is very stable and still supported by

MS.

[Guest Rod]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

 

"Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message

> Win2000Pro is another OS choice and it is very stable and still supported

by

> MS.

 

Thank you,

I'll have a look around for the software.

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

Buffalo wrote:

> Win2000Pro is another OS choice and it is very stable and still

> supported by MS.

 

Win-2k "pro" ???

 

Was there a "pro" and "non-pro" version of 2k?

 

As much as I am a non-regular-user of any NT OS, I have moderate

experience in installing and tweaking them, and would say that anyone

considering either dual-boot (win-98 and some version of NT) or moving

completely away from 98 to NT, and if you don't have a burning desire

for or previous experience with win-2K, that you skip 2K and go right

to XP.

[Guest Buffalo]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

 

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:474B76CC.8F7E97A9@Guy.com...

> Buffalo wrote:

>

> > Win2000Pro is another OS choice and it is very stable and still

> > supported by MS.

>

> Win-2k "pro" ???

>

> Was there a "pro" and "non-pro" version of 2k?

>

> As much as I am a non-regular-user of any NT OS, I have moderate

> experience in installing and tweaking them, and would say that anyone

> considering either dual-boot (win-98 and some version of NT) or moving

> completely away from 98 to NT, and if you don't have a burning desire

> for or previous experience with win-2K, that you skip 2K and go right

> to XP.

 

Why?

I would be interested in your reasoning, esp if the user is not into gaming.

PS: Yes, I dual boot Win98SE and Win2000Pro.

And no, I do not know why it is called Win2000Pro rather than just Win2000,

unless one is a server and the other is not.

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

Buffalo wrote:

> > Was there a "pro" and "non-pro" version of 2k?

> And no, I do not know why it is called Win2000Pro rather than just

> Win2000, unless one is a server and the other is not.

 

There were 4 versions of 2K.

 

The most common is normally referred to as just "2K" even though, yes,

it is officially known as "2K pro". The other 3 were various server

versions. There was no "non-pro" version, so it's not clear why MS

added "pro" to the name.

> > anyone considering either dual-boot (win-98 and some version of

> > NT) or moving completely away from 98 to NT, and if you don't

> > have a burning desire for or previous experience with win-2K,

> > that you skip 2K and go right to XP.

>

> Why?

> I would be interested in your reasoning, esp if the user is not

> into gaming.

 

I think it's a lot of hassle to take a 2K CD and obtain/install all

the patches and service packs for it and bring it up the security or

functionality level of XP-sp2.

 

XP has better USB device support (which tends to be more important for

the average SOHO user).

 

About a year ago I/we built some new machines (core-2 duo's) for our

developers (2-gb ram, multiple 400 gb SATA hard drives, dual-head and

dual-monitor setup's) and they installed XP-pro as their main OS

(they've configured their systems for multiple OS's and can even run

Vista in a virtual window). Naturally they were running 2k up to that

point as their main OS.

 

I have binders full of Micro$oft software.

 

If I were building a new system for a friend or relative 2 or more

years ago, I would have installed 2K on it. Three years ago, it would

have been 98se.

 

If I were building a new system today, or within the past 2 years

(again for a friend or relative) I'd put XP-pro on it. Remember, I

wouldn't be paying a dime to MS or anyone else regardless what I was

installing on it, and I've got every OS from Win-95 to Vista available

to me, so OS cost or availability is not an issue.

[Guest MEB]

Re: Xp to Win98 coming home.

 

 

 

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:474CEB30.DE6450D4@Guy.com...

| Buffalo wrote:

|

| > > Was there a "pro" and "non-pro" version of 2k?

|

| > And no, I do not know why it is called Win2000Pro rather than just

| > Win2000, unless one is a server and the other is not.

|

| There were 4 versions of 2K.

|

| The most common is normally referred to as just "2K" even though, yes,

| it is officially known as "2K pro". The other 3 were various server

| versions. There was no "non-pro" version, so it's not clear why MS

| added "pro" to the name.

|

| > > anyone considering either dual-boot (win-98 and some version of

| > > NT) or moving completely away from 98 to NT, and if you don't

| > > have a burning desire for or previous experience with win-2K,

| > > that you skip 2K and go right to XP.

| >

| > Why?

| > I would be interested in your reasoning, esp if the user is not

| > into gaming.

|

| I think it's a lot of hassle to take a 2K CD and obtain/install all

| the patches and service packs for it and bring it up the security or

| functionality level of XP-sp2.

|

| XP has better USB device support (which tends to be more important for

| the average SOHO user).

|

| About a year ago I/we built some new machines (core-2 duo's) for our

| developers (2-gb ram, multiple 400 gb SATA hard drives, dual-head and

| dual-monitor setup's) and they installed XP-pro as their main OS

| (they've configured their systems for multiple OS's and can even run

| Vista in a virtual window). Naturally they were running 2k up to that

| point as their main OS.

|

| I have binders full of Micro$oft software.

|

| If I were building a new system for a friend or relative 2 or more

| years ago, I would have installed 2K on it. Three years ago, it would

| have been 98se.

|

| If I were building a new system today, or within the past 2 years

| (again for a friend or relative) I'd put XP-pro on it. Remember, I

| wouldn't be paying a dime to MS or anyone else regardless what I was

| installing on it, and I've got every OS from Win-95 to Vista available

| to me, so OS cost or availability is not an issue.

 

Well to each his own,, what I find unique [or perhaps not so]: anyone who

has run the various Microsoft OSs, generally never recommends the newest.

What I find rather discouraging is that just before VISTA came out, it was

still not recommended to use XP due to its numerous issues which everyone

hoped would be corrected by Service Pack 3 [yeah right]... now supposedly XP

* IS * the recommended OS [and those issues have not been fixed, just more

tolerance afforded].

 

Strangely, in the background, there has always been an OS which has always

exceeded Microsoft's OSs.. Linux...

There has always been a better graphical interface, Apple.

There has always been alternatives to waiting for Microsoft fixes to

correct flaws in its software [which have yet to produce a finished OS], and

yet millions keep jumping on the hamster wheel ....

 

 

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