Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

[Guest Hassan]

So I am trying to terminal service into this particular host and every click

of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its like as if it freezes and then wakes up

when i try to navigate through the session.

 

So here is what I know so far..

 

On another Vista PC and on XP, it works fine and I can navigate through it

fast.

 

This behavior is being seen on 2 PCs so far and I dont know if its because

of the Cisco VPN client that we have installed. I uninstalled it as well and

it still works as such.

 

Infact this behaviour is to only one of the hosts that I terminal service

into and not other hosts. Other hosts work fine.

 

So it feels like its between my XP and this particular host and dont know

what else is stored on XP to bind that relation between the host. I tried to

connect on different networks, through VPN, without VPN, wireless and the

other in built Ethernet adapter and no luck.

 

It was working before and dont know whether it was the Cisco client as I

said before and that was the first host I connected to after installing the

client and making a VPN connection.

 

Really confused and lost here.. Nothing in the logs..

 

I need to TS into this one particular box on a frequent basis thats slow in

responding now and I dont want to format my Vista and try again.

 

Seen this ?

 

I am using Vista Ultimate..

[Guest ThePro]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

"Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular host and every

> click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its like as if it freezes and then

> wakes up when i try to navigate through the session.

>

> So here is what I know so far..

>

 

See

http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slow-after-windows-2003.html .

 

Hope this helps.

 

ThePro

[Guest Hassan]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

Before I try that out, how can i test the current settings ?

 

Its says i need to do the following ...

 

netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

 

How can i see if its enabled today ? whats the command for that ? Also is

there a GUI way to see the settings and to enable/disable through the GUI

interface ?

 

Thanks

"ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:52A1E1E6-AD6C-4359-8CCD-9AF6CEA0954C@microsoft.com...

> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular host and every

>> click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its like as if it freezes and then

>> wakes up when i try to navigate through the session.

>>

>> So here is what I know so far..

>>

>

> See

> http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slow-after-windows-2003.html .

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> ThePro

[Guest ThePro]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

See answers inline

 

ThePro

 

"Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

> Before I try that out, how can i test the current settings ?

>

> Its says i need to do the following ...

>

> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

>

> How can i see if its enabled today ? whats the command for that ?

 

netsh interface tcp show global

> Also is there a GUI way to see the settings and to enable/disable through

> the GUI interface ?

 

None that I know of.

>

> Thanks

> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:52A1E1E6-AD6C-4359-8CCD-9AF6CEA0954C@microsoft.com...

>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular host and every

>>> click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its like as if it freezes and

>>> then wakes up when i try to navigate through the session.

>>>

>>> So here is what I know so far..

>>>

>>

>> See

>> http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slow-after-windows-2003.html .

>>

>> Hope this helps.

>>

>> ThePro

>

>

[Guest Hassan]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

Thanks a bunch.. That worked..Dont know what else will break by disabling

that in return ?

 

Do you know what those functionalities allow you when they were enabled ?

obviously its disabled now..dont want to break something else in return

which I may bump into down the road that needs those setting enabled ;)

 

 

"ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:5DB33938-87A0-4020-ADF1-8A850A267181@microsoft.com...

> See answers inline

>

> ThePro

>

> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>> Before I try that out, how can i test the current settings ?

>>

>> Its says i need to do the following ...

>>

>> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

>>

>> How can i see if its enabled today ? whats the command for that ?

>

> netsh interface tcp show global

>

>> Also is there a GUI way to see the settings and to enable/disable through

>> the GUI interface ?

>

> None that I know of.

>

>>

>> Thanks

>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:52A1E1E6-AD6C-4359-8CCD-9AF6CEA0954C@microsoft.com...

>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular host and every

>>>> click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its like as if it freezes and

>>>> then wakes up when i try to navigate through the session.

>>>>

>>>> So here is what I know so far..

>>>>

>>>

>>> See

>>> http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slow-after-windows-2003.html .

>>>

>>> Hope this helps.

>>>

>>> ThePro

>>

>>

>

[Guest ThePro]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

I don't know exactly what these settings do but I know that they are new in

Vista TCP/IP stack.

 

You should probably re-enable them after your servers are upgraded to

Longhorn (Windows Server 2008).

 

ThePro

 

"Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

> Thanks a bunch.. That worked..Dont know what else will break by disabling

> that in return ?

>

> Do you know what those functionalities allow you when they were enabled ?

> obviously its disabled now..dont want to break something else in return

> which I may bump into down the road that needs those setting enabled ;)

>

>

> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:5DB33938-87A0-4020-ADF1-8A850A267181@microsoft.com...

>> See answers inline

>>

>> ThePro

>>

>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>> Before I try that out, how can i test the current settings ?

>>>

>>> Its says i need to do the following ...

>>>

>>> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

>>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

>>>

>>> How can i see if its enabled today ? whats the command for that ?

>>

>> netsh interface tcp show global

>>

>>> Also is there a GUI way to see the settings and to enable/disable

>>> through the GUI interface ?

>>

>> None that I know of.

>>

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:52A1E1E6-AD6C-4359-8CCD-9AF6CEA0954C@microsoft.com...

>>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>>> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular host and every

>>>>> click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its like as if it freezes and

>>>>> then wakes up when i try to navigate through the session.

>>>>>

>>>>> So here is what I know so far..

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> See

>>>> http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slow-after-windows-2003.html .

>>>>

>>>> Hope this helps.

>>>>

>>>> ThePro

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

Here's the documentation:

 

934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows

Vista behind a firewall device

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430

 

And here's some more background:

 

TCP Receive Window Auto-Tuning

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/01/CableGuy

/default.aspx

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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"ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote on 23 nov 2007 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I don't know exactly what these settings do but I know that they

> are new in Vista TCP/IP stack.

>

> You should probably re-enable them after your servers are

> upgraded to Longhorn (Windows Server 2008).

>

> ThePro

>

> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>> Thanks a bunch.. That worked..Dont know what else will break by

>> disabling that in return ?

>>

>> Do you know what those functionalities allow you when they were

>> enabled ? obviously its disabled now..dont want to break

>> something else in return which I may bump into down the road

>> that needs those setting enabled ;)

>>

>>

>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:5DB33938-87A0-4020-ADF1-8A850A267181@microsoft.com...

>>> See answers inline

>>>

>>> ThePro

>>>

>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>> Before I try that out, how can i test the current settings ?

>>>>

>>>> Its says i need to do the following ...

>>>>

>>>> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

>>>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

>>>>

>>>> How can i see if its enabled today ? whats the command for

>>>> that ?

>>>

>>> netsh interface tcp show global

>>>

>>>> Also is there a GUI way to see the settings and to

>>>> enable/disable through the GUI interface ?

>>>

>>> None that I know of.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Thanks

>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:52A1E1E6-AD6C-4359-8CCD-9AF6CEA0954C@microsoft.com...

>>>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>>>> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular

>>>>>> host and every click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its

>>>>>> like as if it freezes and then wakes up when i try to

>>>>>> navigate through the session.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So here is what I know so far..

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> See

>>>>> http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slow-

>>>>> after-windows-2003.html .

>>>>>

>>>>> Hope this helps.

>>>>>

>>>>> ThePro

[Guest Hassan]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

So the article talks just about the autotuning feature.

 

I have also disabled rss i.e.

netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

 

What does RSS do ? Shall I turn it on and if so is it just the enabled

command ?

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message

news:Xns99F1E882F2D14veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...

> Here's the documentation:

>

> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows

> Vista behind a firewall device

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430

>

> And here's some more background:

>

> TCP Receive Window Auto-Tuning

> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/01/CableGuy

> /default.aspx

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote on 23 nov 2007 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

>> I don't know exactly what these settings do but I know that they

>> are new in Vista TCP/IP stack.

>>

>> You should probably re-enable them after your servers are

>> upgraded to Longhorn (Windows Server 2008).

>>

>> ThePro

>>

>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>> Thanks a bunch.. That worked..Dont know what else will break by

>>> disabling that in return ?

>>>

>>> Do you know what those functionalities allow you when they were

>>> enabled ? obviously its disabled now..dont want to break

>>> something else in return which I may bump into down the road

>>> that needs those setting enabled ;)

>>>

>>>

>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:5DB33938-87A0-4020-ADF1-8A850A267181@microsoft.com...

>>>> See answers inline

>>>>

>>>> ThePro

>>>>

>>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>>> Before I try that out, how can i test the current settings ?

>>>>>

>>>>> Its says i need to do the following ...

>>>>>

>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

>>>>>

>>>>> How can i see if its enabled today ? whats the command for

>>>>> that ?

>>>>

>>>> netsh interface tcp show global

>>>>

>>>>> Also is there a GUI way to see the settings and to

>>>>> enable/disable through the GUI interface ?

>>>>

>>>> None that I know of.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks

>>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:52A1E1E6-AD6C-4359-8CCD-9AF6CEA0954C@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular

>>>>>>> host and every click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its

>>>>>>> like as if it freezes and then wakes up when i try to

>>>>>>> navigate through the session.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> So here is what I know so far..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> See

>>>>>> http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slow-

>>>>>> after-windows-2003.html .

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hope this helps.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> ThePro

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Terminal Service session slow on Vista for just one server

 

rss in this context stands for receive-side scaling.

More information can be found here:

 

927168 - TCP traffic stops after you enable both receive-side

scaling and Internet Connection Sharing in Windows Vista or in

Windows Server 2003 with Service Pack 1

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927168

 

Scalable Networking with RSS

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/NDIS_RSS.mspx

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

"Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote on 24 nov 2007 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> So the article talks just about the autotuning feature.

>

> I have also disabled rss i.e.

> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

>

> What does RSS do ? Shall I turn it on and if so is it just the

> enabled command ?

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote

> in message

> news:Xns99F1E882F2D14veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...

>> Here's the documentation:

>>

>> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use

>> Windows Vista behind a firewall device

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430

>>

>> And here's some more background:

>>

>> TCP Receive Window Auto-Tuning

>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/01/Cable

>> Guy /default.aspx

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote on 23 nov 2007 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>>> I don't know exactly what these settings do but I know that

>>> they are new in Vista TCP/IP stack.

>>>

>>> You should probably re-enable them after your servers are

>>> upgraded to Longhorn (Windows Server 2008).

>>>

>>> ThePro

>>>

>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>> Thanks a bunch.. That worked..Dont know what else will break

>>>> by disabling that in return ?

>>>>

>>>> Do you know what those functionalities allow you when they

>>>> were enabled ? obviously its disabled now..dont want to break

>>>> something else in return which I may bump into down the road

>>>> that needs those setting enabled ;)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:5DB33938-87A0-4020-ADF1-8A850A267181@microsoft.com...

>>>>> See answers inline

>>>>>

>>>>> ThePro

>>>>>

>>>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Before I try that out, how can i test the current settings

>>>>>> ?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Its says i need to do the following ...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled

>>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

>>>>>>

>>>>>> How can i see if its enabled today ? whats the command for

>>>>>> that ?

>>>>>

>>>>> netsh interface tcp show global

>>>>>

>>>>>> Also is there a GUI way to see the settings and to

>>>>>> enable/disable through the GUI interface ?

>>>>>

>>>>> None that I know of.

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:52A1E1E6-AD6C-4359-8CCD-9AF6CEA0954C@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> "Hassan" <hassan@test.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> So I am trying to terminal service into this particular

>>>>>>>> host and every click of the mouse takes like 30 secs. Its

>>>>>>>> like as if it freezes and then wakes up when i try to

>>>>>>>> navigate through the session.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So here is what I know so far..

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> See

>>>>>>> http://mytechweblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rdp-from-vista-slo

>>>>>>> w- after-windows-2003.html .

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Hope this helps.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> ThePro