Updates/upgrades

November 29, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Does the (NL) stand for Netherlands? Does Windows Updates not work?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

"xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hey,

>

> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem.

> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

> Can anybody help me to get them back??

>

> tks//

>

> Xotha

November 29, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and install, then

reboot when prompted.

After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing the Critical

Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread them out.

http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hey,

>

> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem. Now I

> lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

> Can anybody help me to get them back??

>

> tks//

>

> Xotha

November 30, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from the

Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

>

> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and install,

> then reboot when prompted.

>

> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing

> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread

> them out.

> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Hey,

>>

>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem.

>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

>> Can anybody help me to get them back??

>>

>> tks//

>>

>> Xotha

>

November 30, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from the

> Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

>>

>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and install,

>> then reboot when prompted.

>>

>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing

>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread

>> them out.

>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>

>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Hey,

>>>

>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem.

>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??

>>>

>>> tks//

>>>

>>> Xotha

>>

>

November 30, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Well, I have the whole set, but only in English. Might have some old TechNet

stuff that has Updates for other languages, but I think I only got TN

through early 2002.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from

>> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

>> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

>>>

>>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and

>>> install,

>>> then reboot when prompted.

>>>

>>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing

>>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread

>>> them out.

>>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

>>> --

>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>

>>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

>>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hey,

>>>>

>>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a

>>>> Diskpartitionproblem.

>>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

>>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??

>>>>

>>>> tks//

>>>>

>>>> Xotha

>>>

>>

>

November 30, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:u5r5CVxMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Well, I have the whole set, but only in English. Might have some old

TechNet

| stuff that has Updates for other languages, but I think I only got TN

| through early 2002.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|

Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available for a

minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?

One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the previously

offered updates, is this correct?

So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?

Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,

included on the updates CD?

Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other

languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already offer

those non-English versions?

--

MEB

________

| "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

| news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!

| > --

| > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from

| >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)

| >>

| >> --

| >> Gary S. Terhune

| >> MS-MVP Shell/User

| >> http://www.grystmill.com

| >>

| >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

| >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

| >>>

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

| >>>

| >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and

| >>> install,

| >>> then reboot when prompted.

| >>>

| >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start

installing

| >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one

shot....spread

| >>> them out.

| >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

| >>> --

| >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| >>>

| >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

| >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| >>>> Hey,

| >>>>

| >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a

| >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.

| >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

| >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??

| >>>>

| >>>> tks//

| >>>>

| >>>> Xotha

| >>>

| >>

| >

|

November 30, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:u761$e3MIHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available for

> a

> minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?

Yes. I ask $3, cash or check. When I get the money, I send the CDs. I don't

want to put my mailing address here, so I ask people to email

"updates_at_grystmill.com".

> One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the previously

> offered updates, is this correct?

The one is a copy of the SecUp CD 2004, the other contains all updates

subsequent to that CD's release. IOW, it covers everything you'd do to a

fresh install to bring it up to date.

> So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?

None other. 2 CDs only. I *did* produce a Time Zones updater that I host on

my website. I don't distribute that via CD.

> Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,

> included on the updates CD?

No. The SecUp 2004 CD is self-contained and auto-installed, but the

subsequent Updates are simply organized by OS (98, 98SE or ME), type of

Update, and order of installation, with detailed Readmes included to suggest

procedures.

> Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other

> languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already

> offer

> those non-English versions?

No, I will not host any stored Updates. I distribute them via CD now so that

the costs are covered. I don't feel like paying for online storage and

potentially high transfer costs. I think that in the case of Updates for

other languages, it's a task for each of the communities that serve

non-English users. I hope they prepared like I did. I'm sure they're out

there somewhere, but it was a lot easier to get them via WU. By using WU to

figure out which Updates to install and in what order, I avoided

redundancies and needless installations of subsequently superceded patches.

Of course, it also excludes patches, etc., that weren't included at WU a

year ago. Most of those were either superceded or they pertain to specific

cases or scenarios and should only be installed if conditions demand (e.g.,

HotFixes.)

If someone were to express a desire to host the Updates on a website, I'd be

willing to talk. Best method would be a pair of ISOs, but if someone were to

have unlimited space, it could get a lot more customizable according to

users' needs, with copies of various Updates organized in various manners,

the SecUp CD torn apart, etc. But providing the stuff I have is about as far

as I want to go on any such project. Don't feel like yanking the MS chain

*that* hard.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>

> --

> MEB

> ________

>

> | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> | news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!

> | > --

> | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates

> from

> | >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)

> | >>

> | >> --

> | >> Gary S. Terhune

> | >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> | >> http://www.grystmill.com

> | >>

> | >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> | >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

> | >>>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

> | >>>

> | >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and

> | >>> install,

> | >>> then reboot when prompted.

> | >>>

> | >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start

> installing

> | >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one

> shot....spread

> | >>> them out.

> | >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

> | >>> --

> | >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | >>>

> | >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

> | >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | >>>> Hey,

> | >>>>

> | >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a

> | >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.

> | >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

> | >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??

> | >>>>

> | >>>> tks//

> | >>>>

> | >>>> Xotha

> | >>>

> | >>

> | >

> |

>

December 1, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates

> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update

> Catalog".)

You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98 or

ME.

2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.

WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with updates.

December 1, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:ej6us$5MIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:u761$e3MIHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available

for

| > a

| > minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?

|

| Yes. I ask $3, cash or check. When I get the money, I send the CDs. I

don't

| want to put my mailing address here, so I ask people to email

| "updates_at_grystmill.com".

Right, I was sending them to the site,,, is it mentioned there?

|

| > One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the

previously

| > offered updates, is this correct?

|

| The one is a copy of the SecUp CD 2004, the other contains all updates

| subsequent to that CD's release. IOW, it covers everything you'd do to a

| fresh install to bring it up to date.

|

| > So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?

|

| None other. 2 CDs only. I *did* produce a Time Zones updater that I host

on

| my website. I don't distribute that via CD.

Okay, chalk that to numerous other issues in mind, and ,, well you know ...

|

| > Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,

| > included on the updates CD?

|

| No. The SecUp 2004 CD is self-contained and auto-installed, but the

| subsequent Updates are simply organized by OS (98, 98SE or ME), type of

| Update, and order of installation, with detailed Readmes included to

suggest

| procedures.

So it would still be useful for parties presently running 9X to save their

windows Update.log and iuhist.xml so they could potentially determine the

order and what they might need, by comparing what was installed by the SecCD

{or perhaps after mid 2004}.. most of those will be for IE 6 and OE anyway

....

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/manual_update_98.htm -

Manually updating a new installation of Windows 98SE

though now, apparently, they will be searching Microsoft (or the Internet)

for any files they don't have saved locally or which aren't on the second

subsequent updates CD.

|

| > Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other

| > languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already

| > offer

| > those non-English versions?

|

| No, I will not host any stored Updates. I distribute them via CD now so

that

| the costs are covered. I don't feel like paying for online storage and

| potentially high transfer costs. I think that in the case of Updates for

| other languages, it's a task for each of the communities that serve

| non-English users. I hope they prepared like I did. I'm sure they're out

| there somewhere, but it was a lot easier to get them via WU. By using WU

to

| figure out which Updates to install and in what order, I avoided

| redundancies and needless installations of subsequently superceded

patches.

| Of course, it also excludes patches, etc., that weren't included at WU a

| year ago. Most of those were either superceded or they pertain to specific

| cases or scenarios and should only be installed if conditions demand

(e.g.,

| HotFixes.)

|

| If someone were to express a desire to host the Updates on a website, I'd

be

| willing to talk. Best method would be a pair of ISOs, but if someone were

to

| have unlimited space, it could get a lot more customizable according to

| users' needs, with copies of various Updates organized in various manners,

| the SecUp CD torn apart, etc. But providing the stuff I have is about as

far

| as I want to go on any such project. Don't feel like yanking the MS chain

| *that* hard.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|

Okay, thanks Gary, I certainly understand. Perhaps there will be other

postings which can direct to *official patch* collections [unmodified] for

other languages. And MAYBE, someone will be sparked to offer some space

somewhere.

--

MEB

________

| >

| > | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

| > | news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!

| > | > --

| > | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates

| > from

| > | >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update

Catalog".)

| > | >>

| > | >> --

| > | >> Gary S. Terhune

| > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | >> http://www.grystmill.com

| > | >>

| > | >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

| > | >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

| > | >>>

| >

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

| > | >>>

| > | >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and

| > | >>> install,

| > | >>> then reboot when prompted.

| > | >>>

| > | >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start

| > installing

| > | >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one

| > shot....spread

| > | >>> them out.

| > | >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

| > | >>> --

| > | >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| > | >>>

| > | >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

| > | >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | >>>> Hey,

| > | >>>>

| > | >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a

| > | >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.

| > | >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

| > | >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??

| > | >>>>

| > | >>>> tks//

| > | >>>>

| > | >>>> Xotha

| > | >>>

| > | >>

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

December 1, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Huh... I thought I'd mentioned it on my site, but I guess I forgot that

detail. I'll fix that. But it's best to send folks to updates@grystmill.com.

I can remind them of the cost and tell them where to send the cash. As for

the rest... I'm retired, I guess. With regard to Updates, anyway, I've

pretty much done all I'm going to do. (So long as I can remember who I am,

I'll try to keep the Time Zones Updater up to date -- except for Israel.)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/manual_update_98.htm -

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:e3rlKH9MIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:ej6us$5MIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:u761$e3MIHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available

> for

> | > a

> | > minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?

> |

> | Yes. I ask $3, cash or check. When I get the money, I send the CDs. I

> don't

> | want to put my mailing address here, so I ask people to email

> | "updates_at_grystmill.com".

>

> Right, I was sending them to the site,,, is it mentioned there?

>

> |

> | > One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the

> previously

> | > offered updates, is this correct?

> |

> | The one is a copy of the SecUp CD 2004, the other contains all updates

> | subsequent to that CD's release. IOW, it covers everything you'd do to a

> | fresh install to bring it up to date.

> |

> | > So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?

> |

> | None other. 2 CDs only. I *did* produce a Time Zones updater that I host

> on

> | my website. I don't distribute that via CD.

>

> Okay, chalk that to numerous other issues in mind, and ,, well you know

> ...

>

> |

> | > Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,

> | > included on the updates CD?

> |

> | No. The SecUp 2004 CD is self-contained and auto-installed, but the

> | subsequent Updates are simply organized by OS (98, 98SE or ME), type of

> | Update, and order of installation, with detailed Readmes included to

> suggest

> | procedures.

>

> So it would still be useful for parties presently running 9X to save their

> windows Update.log and iuhist.xml so they could potentially determine the

> order and what they might need, by comparing what was installed by the

> SecCD

> {or perhaps after mid 2004}.. most of those will be for IE 6 and OE anyway

> ...

>

> Manually updating a new installation of Windows 98SE

> though now, apparently, they will be searching Microsoft (or the Internet)

> for any files they don't have saved locally or which aren't on the second

> subsequent updates CD.

>

> |

> | > Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other

> | > languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already

> | > offer

> | > those non-English versions?

> |

> | No, I will not host any stored Updates. I distribute them via CD now so

> that

> | the costs are covered. I don't feel like paying for online storage and

> | potentially high transfer costs. I think that in the case of Updates for

> | other languages, it's a task for each of the communities that serve

> | non-English users. I hope they prepared like I did. I'm sure they're out

> | there somewhere, but it was a lot easier to get them via WU. By using WU

> to

> | figure out which Updates to install and in what order, I avoided

> | redundancies and needless installations of subsequently superceded

> patches.

> | Of course, it also excludes patches, etc., that weren't included at WU a

> | year ago. Most of those were either superceded or they pertain to

> specific

> | cases or scenarios and should only be installed if conditions demand

> (e.g.,

> | HotFixes.)

> |

> | If someone were to express a desire to host the Updates on a website,

> I'd

> be

> | willing to talk. Best method would be a pair of ISOs, but if someone

> were

> to

> | have unlimited space, it could get a lot more customizable according to

> | users' needs, with copies of various Updates organized in various

> manners,

> | the SecUp CD torn apart, etc. But providing the stuff I have is about as

> far

> | as I want to go on any such project. Don't feel like yanking the MS

> chain

> | *that* hard.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

>

> Okay, thanks Gary, I certainly understand. Perhaps there will be other

> postings which can direct to *official patch* collections [unmodified] for

> other languages. And MAYBE, someone will be sparked to offer some space

> somewhere.

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

> | >

> | > | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!

> | > | > --

> | > | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x

> Updates

> | > from

> | > | >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update

> Catalog".)

> | > | >>

> | > | >> --

> | > | >> Gary S. Terhune

> | > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | >> http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | >>

> | > | >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> | > | >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:

> | > | >>>

> | >

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1E1550CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

> | > | >>>

> | > | >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and

> | > | >>> install,

> | > | >>> then reboot when prompted.

> | > | >>>

> | > | >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start

> | > installing

> | > | >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one

> | > shot....spread

> | > | >>> them out.

> | > | >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

> | > | >>> --

> | > | >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | > | >>>

> | > | >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message

> | > | >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | >>>> Hey,

> | > | >>>>

> | > | >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a

> | > | >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.

> | > | >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.

> | > | >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??

> | > | >>>>

> | > | >>>> tks//

> | > | >>>>

> | > | >>>> Xotha

> | > | >>>

> | > | >>

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

December 1, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

98 Guy wrote:

| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

|

|> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates

|> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update

|> Catalog".)

|

| You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98 or

| ME.

I confirm that on this Win98SE the Catalog...

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

....STILL offers...!...

78 Critical Updates & Service Packs

1 Additional Windows Downloads

1 Internet & Multimedia Updates

75 Multi-language Features

15 Recommended Updates

1 Windows Tools

0 Advanced Security Updates

| 2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.

|

| WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with updates.

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

December 2, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Well that's good news. I still wonder what the case is with other languages,

but I'm just not bored enough, yet, to install foreign-language versions to

see what's available. Would be kinda fun, though, and I've got them all from

MSDN.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:%2391EGCHNIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> 98 Guy wrote:

> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> |

> |> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates

> |> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update

> |> Catalog".)

> |

> | You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98 or

> | ME.

>

> I confirm that on this Win98SE the Catalog...

>

> ...STILL offers...!...

>

> 78 Critical Updates & Service Packs

> 1 Additional Windows Downloads

> 1 Internet & Multimedia Updates

> 75 Multi-language Features

> 15 Recommended Updates

> 1 Windows Tools

> 0 Advanced Security Updates

>

> | 2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.

> |

> | WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with updates.

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

December 3, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| Well that's good news. I still wonder what the case is with other

| languages, but I'm just not bored enough, yet, to install

| foreign-language versions to see what's available. Would be kinda

| fun, though, and I've got them all from MSDN.

Yep, good news. And I took at least all the criticals (I think/hope)

into...

E:\WU>dir /a /s

Directory of E:\WU

....snip

Total files listed:

209 file(s) 195,804,619 bytes

344 dir(s) 7,295.86 MB free

Probably I'll never actually need them, though, but will rely on my full

system backup in any emergency. (Still, some day, I really should try a

fresh install, or as close as I can get to one on this Compaq.)

But I don't know what the catalog offers for foreign languages.

Hopefully, that's the same as it always was.

It's good to see your poodles found something to grab onto absent your

ten toes to get you out of that eleventh earthquake, Terhune!

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|> http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:%2391EGCHNIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> 98 Guy wrote:

|> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

|> |

|> |> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates

|> |> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update

|> |> Catalog".)

|> |

|> | You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98

|> | or ME.

|>

|> I confirm that on this Win98SE the Catalog...

|>

|> ...STILL offers...!...

|>

|> 78 Critical Updates & Service Packs

|> 1 Additional Windows Downloads

|> 1 Internet & Multimedia Updates

|> 75 Multi-language Features

|> 15 Recommended Updates

|> 1 Windows Tools

|> 0 Advanced Security Updates

|>

|> | 2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.

|> |

|> | WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with

|> | updates.

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

December 3, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Did I tell you? I got more poodles...

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:u0VVQVgNIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> It's good to see your poodles found something to grab onto absent your

> ten toes to get you out of that eleventh earthquake, Terhune!

December 3, 2007

Re: Updates/upgrades

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| Did I tell you? I got more poodles...

Ah! You gained weight?

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:u0VVQVgNIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> It's good to see your poodles found something to grab onto absent

|> your ten toes to get you out of that eleventh earthquake, Terhune!

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR