A question on going from ME to XP

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

A while back we tried to get DSL running on this ME box. During the process

of installing the modem for some reason or another the modem couldn't find

the correct protocols to use to connect. The tech guy they sent out

couldn't get the ting to work.

 

Now, here's where XP comes into play. The tech guy told us that if we were

to upgrade to XP that the ME network protocols that are missing that would

make the modem connect would still be used by XP. I believe the missing

protocols were deleted the day that we got Cox high speed internet and that

was six years ago. Now, would it be better for me to install ME over the

top of itself or get a XP upgrade to fix this and was the tech guy full of

BS?

 

BTW, is there another type of start-up disk besides the emergency start up

one? I think he was confusing that with a restoration disk that comes with

boxes that weren't built from the ground up like this one is.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

I suspect the problem has nothing to do with "protocols" but rather has a

lot to do with the modem driver and if USB, given that your system appears

to be an OEM install (that is the PC came with Win Me pre-installed), that

the problem could well be that the modem could not find certain Win Me

files required for usb operation. If this is the case then this should be

easy to fix.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> A while back we tried to get DSL running on this ME box. During the

> process of installing the modem for some reason or another the modem

> couldn't find the correct protocols to use to connect. The tech guy

> they sent out couldn't get the ting to work.

>

> Now, here's where XP comes into play. The tech guy told us that if

> we were to upgrade to XP that the ME network protocols that are

> missing that would make the modem connect would still be used by XP.

> I believe the missing protocols were deleted the day that we got Cox

> high speed internet and that was six years ago. Now, would it be

> better for me to install ME over the top of itself or get a XP

> upgrade to fix this and was the tech guy full of BS?

>

> BTW, is there another type of start-up disk besides the emergency

> start up one? I think he was confusing that with a restoration disk

> that comes with boxes that weren't built from the ground up like this

> one is.

[Guest oops!!]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Start with a winsock fix:

 

http://downloads.subratam.org/WinsockFix.zip

 

Download, unzip and launch.

 

Click the FIX button and reboot when finished.

 

Test.

 

Zee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"SSJ04 Mewtwo" <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:fj0uft$m3q$1@news.datemas.de...

>A while back we tried to get DSL running on this ME box. During the

>process

> of installing the modem for some reason or another the modem couldn't find

> the correct protocols to use to connect. The tech guy they sent out

> couldn't get the ting to work.

>

> Now, here's where XP comes into play. The tech guy told us that if we

> were

> to upgrade to XP that the ME network protocols that are missing that would

> make the modem connect would still be used by XP. I believe the missing

> protocols were deleted the day that we got Cox high speed internet and

> that

> was six years ago. Now, would it be better for me to install ME over the

> top of itself or get a XP upgrade to fix this and was the tech guy full of

> BS?

>

> BTW, is there another type of start-up disk besides the emergency start up

> one? I think he was confusing that with a restoration disk that comes

> with

> boxes that weren't built from the ground up like this one is.

>

>

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

 

I suspect the problem has nothing to do with "protocols" but rather has a

lot to do with the modem driver and if USB, given that your system appears

to be an OEM install (that is the PC came with Win Me pre-installed), that

the problem could well be that the modem could not find certain Win Me

files required for USB operation. If this is the case then this should be

easy to fix.

 

You're right, it was a USB modem, but it also could be connected to the

network card as well. So even though that during the installation when it

brought up an empty list view to choose a protocol it still could be an USB

problem? Alright, how would I fix this? I also have a scanner and a camera

that uses the USB ports just fine.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

If all that is missing is a protocol, the only one of which that should be

relevant is TCP/IP then add it manually and then bind it to the modem or

NIC. What do you see for Configuration when you right click and select

Properties on Network Neighbourhood? It's bit difficult to guide you as I

no longer have a Win Me box here with any sort of modem attached, just a

network card.

 

I think your problem could still be an install problem rather than due to

your having removed a protocol. Just out of curiosity could you please

look for a file named BASE2.CAB and post back its location if found. By

default it should be in either C:\Windows\Options\Install or

C:\Windows\Options\Install but the computer builder may have relocated the

folder containing this file.and placed it elsewhere.

 

As a test, what happens if you right click on Network Neighbourhood,

select and open Properties, open the Configuration tab and then click Add?

Do you get presented with the option to add a Client, Protocol or Service?

If yes, select Protocol, click Add, do you see a selection of six

protocols that can be added?

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You're right, it was a USB modem, but it also could be connected to

> the network card as well. So even though that during the

> installation when it brought up an empty list view to choose a

> protocol it still could be an USB problem? Alright, how would I fix

> this? I also have a scanner and a camera that uses the USB ports

> just fine.

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> Wrote:

 

look for a file named BASE2.CAB and post back its location if found.

 

I couldn't find that .cab file.

 

As a test, what happens if you right click on Network Neighborhood,

select and open Properties, open the Configuration tab and then click Add?

Do you get presented with the option to add a Client, Protocol or Service?

If yes, select Protocol, click Add, do you see a selection of six

protocols that can be added?

 

I got past the first step, but when I went to protocols I saw zero instead

of the six..

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

OK, the problem is that you don't have the Win Me install files on your PC

which means that when you go to add a component and it needs a Win Me file

that is not already present it is unable to extract the file from the Win

Me cab set which is how the system was designed to operate by Microsoft.

Either the user mistakenly chose to delete the folder containing BASE2.CAB

(and all the other cab files) thinking they served no purpose and to gain

some space, about 153MB, or the OEM (computer manufacturer) failed to

install Win Me as they should have and removed or deleted this folder.

Either way you're fubared unless your recovery CD or whatever contains an

accessible folder (possibly called Win9x) that contains these cab files

(about 20 odd plus setup.exe and a few others) in which case post back and

I'll explain what you need to do.

 

Out of curiosity, if you are familiar with the program regedit, what data

do you see for the value SourcePath found at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup

Does that folder exist and if so what does it contain?

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I got past the first step, but when I went to protocols I saw zero

> instead of the six..

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only>

 

Out of curiosity, if you are familiar with the program regedit, what data

do you see for the value SourcePath found at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup

Does that folder exist and if so what does it contain?

 

Yes I am and here is the file list:

 

 

HCUPDATE.EXE

HELPCTR.EXE

PCHSETUP.EXE

ITIRCL.DLL

MARSCORE.DLL

SMGR.DLL

KMIXER.SYS

PORTCLS.SYS

RT.SYS

SYSAUDIO.SYS

USBAUDIO.SYS

WDMAUD.SYS

WIN_17.CAB

WIN_18.CAB

WIN_9.CAB

 

I do have the WinME setup CD if that'll help.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

The correct folder list is as follows for a clean Win Me install.

Installing certain patches from the Windows Update site will add further

files to both Windows\Options\Install and Windows\Options\Cabs but perhaps

not to the folder if located elsewhere.

 

BASE2 CAB 2,239,963 08/06/00 17:00 BASE2.CAB

CATALOG CAB 2,033,798 08/06/00 17:00 CATALOG.CAB

CLEANHD TXT 13,809 08/06/00 17:00 CLEANHD.TXT

DELTEMP COM 496 08/06/00 17:00 DELTEMP.COM

DOSSETUP BIN 85,404 08/06/00 17:00 DOSSETUP.BIN

DRIVER5 CAB 6,123,008 08/06/00 17:00 DRIVER5.CAB

DRIVER6 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 DRIVER6.CAB

DRIVER7 CAB 1,928,446 08/06/00 17:00 DRIVER7.CAB

EXTRACT EXE 53,767 08/06/00 17:00 EXTRACT.EXE

FORMAT COM 49,415 08/06/00 17:00 FORMAT.COM

INTL TXT 6,965 08/06/00 17:00 INTL.TXT

MINI CAB 686,680 08/06/00 17:00 MINI.CAB

NET3 CAB 1,190,400 08/06/00 17:00 NET3.CAB

NET4 CAB 2,068,753 08/06/00 17:00 NET4.CAB

OEMSETUP BIN 3,270 08/06/00 17:00 OEMSETUP.BIN

OEMSETUP EXE 76,604 08/06/00 17:00 OEMSETUP.EXE

PRECOPY1 CAB 2,696,962 08/06/00 17:00 PRECOPY1.CAB

SAVE32 COM 920 08/06/00 17:00 SAVE32.COM

SCANDISK EXE 245,324 08/06/00 17:00 SCANDISK.EXE

SCANDISK PIF 2,857 08/06/00 17:00 SCANDISK.PIF

SCANPROG EXE 4,630 08/06/00 17:00 SCANPROG.EXE

SCANREG EXE 172,494 08/06/00 17:00 SCANREG.EXE

SETUP EXE 5,712 08/06/00 17:00 SETUP.EXE

SETUP TXT 37,455 08/06/00 17:00 SETUP.TXT

SETUP0 WAV 439,824 08/06/00 17:00 SETUP0.WAV

SMARTDRV EXE 45,379 08/06/00 17:00 SMARTDRV.EXE

SUBACK BIN 244,918 08/06/00 17:00 SUBACK.BIN

SUBACK16 BIN 122,998 08/06/00 17:00 SUBACK16.BIN

SUHELPER BIN 1,488 08/06/00 17:00 SUHELPER.BIN

W9XSETUP BIN 187,520 08/06/00 17:00 W9XSETUP.BIN

WB16OFF EXE 537 08/06/00 17:00 WB16OFF.EXE

WIN1024 BIN 18,720 08/06/00 17:00 WIN1024.BIN

WIN640 BIN 7,788 08/06/00 17:00 WIN640.BIN

WIN800 BIN 11,664 08/06/00 17:00 WIN800.BIN

WINME WMV 11,624,034 08/06/00 17:00 WINME.WMV

WIN_10 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_10.CAB

WIN_11 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_11.CAB

WIN_12 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_12.CAB

WIN_13 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_13.CAB

WIN_14 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_14.CAB

WIN_15 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_15.CAB

WIN_16 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_16.CAB

WIN_17 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_17.CAB

WIN_18 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_18.CAB

WIN_19 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_19.CAB

WIN_20 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_20.CAB

WIN_21 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_21.CAB

WIN_22 CAB 6,166,571 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_22.CAB

WIN_8 CAB 6,263,296 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_8.CAB

WIN_9 CAB 8,192,000 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_9.CAB

WIN_OL CAB 1,049,932 08/06/00 17:00 WIN_OL.CAB

XMSMMGR EXE 14,144 08/06/00 17:00 XMSMMGR.EXE

 

52 file(s) 160,613,945 bytes

 

A fully updated Win Me install running IE6 SP1 could be expected to have

had the following 24 files added to the folder. Additional patches and

some drivers will also add files to the folder.

 

CRYPT32 DLL 468,752 09-12-02 3:51p CRYPT32.DLL

CRYPTDLG DLL 90,384 09-25-02 12:36p CRYPTDLG.DLL

DUNZIP32 DLL 98,064 06-18-02 4:33p DUNZIP32.DLL

DZIP32 DLL 130,320 06-18-02 4:33p DZIP32.DLL

HELPCTR EXE 499,984 01-08-03 9:24a HELPCTR.EXE

HH EXE 10,752 04-13-05 5:06p hh.exe

HHCTRL OCX 519,168 04-14-05 12:44p hhctrl.ocx

HHCTRLUI DLL 88,064 05-20-02 11:09a HHCTRLUI.DLL

HHSETUP DLL 38,912 04-14-05 12:44p hhsetup.dll

HLINK DLL 68,096 11-16-04 1:32p HLINK.DLL

HTML32 CNV 311,864 06-26-03 10:19p HTML32.CNV

IFSMGR VXD 185,910 09-19-00 2:10p IFSMGR.VXD

ITIRCL DLL 143,872 04-14-05 12:44p itircl.dll

ITSS DLL 128,000 04-14-05 12:44p itss.dll

KB918547 EXE 8,256 04-24-06 2:24a KB918547.EXE

MOVIEMK EXE 774,219 01-12-01 3:18p MovieMk.exe

MSCONV97 DLL 116,288 06-26-03 10:19p MSCONV97.DLL

NWLINK VXD 51,535 11-28-00 7:10p NWLINK.VXD

Q918547 DLL 4,288 04-24-06 2:24a Q918547.dll

SMGR DLL 225,552 02-23-01 1:45p SMGR.DLL

SSDPAPI DLL 39,184 12-13-01 5:37p SSDPAPI.DLL

SSDPSRV EXE 57,104 12-13-01 5:38p SSDPSRV.EXE

T2EMBED DLL 163,600 11-24-05 4:54p t2embed.dll

UPNP DLL 133,904 12-13-01 5:39p UPNP.DLL

VMOUSE VXD 30,565 04-04-02 10:03a VMOUSE.VXD

VSERVER VXD 112,896 01-04-01 6:06p VSERVER.VXD

XENROLL DLL 1 72,664 07-09-02 8:45a XENROLL.DLL

ZIPFLDR DLL 193,296 09-10-02 4:13p ZIPFLDR.DLL

> I do have the WinME setup CD if that'll help.

 

If you have a Win Me CD rather than an OEM recovery CD, copy the contents

of the Win9x folder (omitting the OLS folder and perhaps WINME.WMV if

space is tight) to the location contained in the value SourcePath.

Alternatively choose a location to suit your needs (it does not have to be

on C: if you have more than one drive), copy the contents of the Win9x

folder on the CD to that location and then, most importantly, set

SourcePath's data to your chosen location.

 

Please post back with details of how you get on.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only>

>

> Out of curiosity, if you are familiar with the program regedit, what

> data do you see for the value SourcePath found at

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup

> Does that folder exist and if so what does it contain?

>

> Yes I am and here is the file list:

>

>

> HCUPDATE.EXE

> HELPCTR.EXE

> PCHSETUP.EXE

> ITIRCL.DLL

> MARSCORE.DLL

> SMGR.DLL

> KMIXER.SYS

> PORTCLS.SYS

> RT.SYS

> SYSAUDIO.SYS

> USBAUDIO.SYS

> WDMAUD.SYS

> WIN_17.CAB

> WIN_18.CAB

> WIN_9.CAB

>

> I do have the WinME setup CD if that'll help.

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Hey Mike,

 

I copied all those files excluding the ones in the OLS folder. I had enough

room for WINME.WMV.

 

I went back to My Network Places's properties and tried it again but still

zero showing in the list view after clicking on protocols.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Try uninstalling a networking component such as a network card or modem,

perhaps by deleting the relevant entry in the Device Manager, reboot and

then reinstall. Hopefully this should now rebuild the missing components.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey Mike,

>

> I copied all those files excluding the ones in the OLS folder. I had

> enough room for WINME.WMV.

>

> I went back to My Network Places's properties and tried it again but

> still zero showing in the list view after clicking on protocols.

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

 

Try uninstalling a networking component such as a network card or modem,

perhaps by deleting the relevant entry in the Device Manager, reboot and

then reinstall. Hopefully this should now rebuild the missing components.

 

Tried removing my dial-up modem and re-installing it. No change.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

It would appear that not only were the Win Me installation files missing

from your PC but also some at least of the INF files that should have been

placed in the Windows\Inf folder when Win Me was installed. Check whether

you have a copy of the files nettrans.inf (protocols), netcli.inf

(clients) and netserv.inf (services) in the C:\Windows\Inf folder, if not

extract new copies from PRECOPY1.CAB by double clicking on PRECOPY1.CAB

and when the cab file opens dragging copies of the three files to

C:\Windows\Inf.

 

Now check what protocols, services and clients are available.

 

I can't help but wonder what other files are missing or have been removed

from the system. Hopefully none.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

>

> Try uninstalling a networking component such as a network card or

> modem, perhaps by deleting the relevant entry in the Device Manager,

> reboot and then reinstall. Hopefully this should now rebuild the

> missing components.

>

> Tried removing my dial-up modem and re-installing it. No change.

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote

 

It would appear that not only were the Win Me installation files missing

from your PC but also some at least of the INF files that should have been

placed in the Windows\Inf folder when Win Me was installed. Check whether

you have a copy of the files nettrans.inf (protocols), netcli.inf

(clients) and netserv.inf (services) in the C:\Windows\Inf folder, if not

extract new copies from PRECOPY1.CAB by double clicking on PRECOPY1.CAB

and when the cab file opens dragging copies of the three files to

C:\Windows\Inf.

 

I was able to find netcli.inf in the .cab file but I didn't see the other

two files. I found a netserve.inf file that maybe the one, but I can't find

one that is close to the file name of "nettrans.inf"

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I was able to find netcli.inf in the .cab file but I didn't see the

> other two files. I found a netserve.inf file that maybe the one, but

> I can't find one that is close to the file name of "nettrans.inf"

 

As I stated earlier all three files are in PRECOPY1.CAB.

 

Contents of the Precopy1.cab File

1394 inf 7,964 06-08-00 5:00p 1394.inf

61883 inf 1,328 06-08-00 5:00p 61883.inf

<snip>

Netcem33 inf 2,460 06-08-00 5:00p Netcem33.inf

Netcli inf 15,034 06-08-00 5:00p Netcli.inf <<<<<<<<<<

Netcli3 inf 22,387 06-08-00 5:00p Netcli3.inf

<snip>

Netrtsnt inf 8,178 06-08-00 5:00p Netrtsnt.inf

Netservr inf 12,018 06-08-00 5:00p Netservr.inf <<<<<<<<

Netsilc inf 4,718 06-08-00 5:00p Netsilc.inf

<snip>

Nettdkp inf 2,875 06-08-00 5:00p Nettdkp.inf

Nettrans inf 35,672 06-08-00 5:00p Nettrans.inf <<<<<<<

Nettsbnt inf 2,751 06-08-00 5:00p Nettsbnt.inf

<snip>

Wstcodec inf 2,356 06-08-00 5:00p Wstcodec.inf

Wupdate inf 6,846 06-08-00 5:00p Wupdate.inf

 

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Ok Mike, I found all three files.

 

For Clients I have:

 

Client for Microsoft Networks

Client for NetWare Networks

 

For protocols there are two list views. The first just has Microsoft in it

and the second has the following:

 

IPX/SPX compatible protocol

NetBEUI

TCP/IP

 

For services I have:

 

File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

File and Printer Sharing for NetWare Networks

 

--

So says the cat

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Looks as if you may now almost be back in business as TCP/IP and Client

for Microsoft Networks are what are needed for most net connections but

see below. If you then wanted to share Files or Printers then you would,

of course, need File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks.

 

Let me check with a Win Me box that has just a modem. Right clicking on

Network Neighbourhood shows:

Client for Microsoft Networks

Intel NIC (bound to TCP/IP)

TCP/IP (bound to Client for MS Networks & File & printer sharing)

File and printer sharing for MS Networks

> For Clients I have:

>

> Client for Microsoft Networks

> Client for NetWare Networks

 

I also have Microsoft Family Logon as an option. If required extract a

copy of NETFAM.INF from PRECOPY1.CAB and place in the C;\Windows\Inf

folder.

> For protocols there are two list views. The first just has Microsoft

> in it

 

That's correct for a default install.

> and the second has the following:

>

> IPX/SPX compatible protocol

> NetBEUI

> TCP/IP

 

I also have

ATM Call Manager (ATMUNI.INF)

ATM LAN Emulation Client (NETLANE.INF)

PPP over ATM (NETPPPOA.INF)

If required extract a copy of ATMUNI.INF and/or NETLANE.INF from

PRECOPY1.CAB and/or NETPPPOA.INF from WIN_18.CAB and place them in the

C;\Windows\Inf folder.

> For services I have:

>

> File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

> File and Printer Sharing for NetWare Networks

 

I also have Service for Netware Directory Services. If required extract a

copy of NDSCLI.INF from PRECOPY1.CAB and place in the C;\Windows\Inf

folder.

 

If you have further problems in other areas remember that you may have one

or more INF files missing in which case you would need to try and

establish which one(s) and then extract new copies from PRECOPY1.CAB. You

shouldn't have problems with missing files now you've got the Win Me cab

set on the system and the correct(ed) entry in SetupPath in the registry

pointing to where you have stored the cab files.

 

Here's hoping that all is now well.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ok Mike, I found all three files.

>

> For Clients I have:

>

> Client for Microsoft Networks

> Client for NetWare Networks

>

> For protocols there are two list views. The first just has Microsoft

> in it and the second has the following:

>

> IPX/SPX compatible protocol

> NetBEUI

> TCP/IP

>

> For services I have:

>

> File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

> File and Printer Sharing for NetWare Networks

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Thanks Mike. I'll extract those files.

 

I did a count and there are only 87 .inf files in that folder. Should I

extract all of the .inf files in each .cab file? I know I'm having another

empty list view problem on the Windows setup tab under add/remove programs.

Would doing that fix it?

 

Alright, if we call Windstream again to have them send the DSL modem and

during setup it does the same thing again what should I do?

 

Also, I think my family would rather have the question of if we should

upgrade to XP and if the upgrade would undo the fix I've just done. I think

my sister is tired of being made fun of by having a box with an OS that most

people call subpar. IMO, Vista is more subpar than ME.

--

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

> Alright, if we call Windstream again to have them send the DSL modem

> and during setup it does the same thing again what should I do?

 

Make a note of the error and post back.

 

As to whether the system can be upgraded to XP this rather depends on the

hardware involved, details of which I know nothing so cannot comment.

> I did a count and there are only 87 .inf files in that folder.

 

An "out of the box" clean install of Win Me here shows 488 INF files dated

8 June 2000 in the Windows\Inf folder. PRECOPY1.CAB contains 370 INF

files, BASE2.CAB contains 2 INF files and WIN_18.CAB a further 166, a

total of 538. I don't think that any harm is likely to result from

extracting all of these and placing them in the Windows\Inf folder.

 

Incidentally Win Me is far from a sub-par operating system, most of those

who hold that view have either never used the system or did so using

inappropriate drivers or with Norton installed. Most adverse comments are

simply due to ignorance on the part of the person making the comment.

Nevertheless XP is without doubt better but does need slightly more modern

hardware. As to Vista, I have few printable comments to make, and

incidentally I was and continue to be a Microsoft beta tester and my

client operating system testing has included Win 98, 98SE, Win Me, XP

(inc. SP1, SP2 & SP3) and Vista (inc. SP1) so feel qualified to comment.

Vista is best when supplied as part of a new modern system rather than on

an upgraded PC.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks Mike. I'll extract those files.

>

> I did a count and there are only 87 .inf files in that folder.

> Should I extract all of the .inf files in each .cab file? I know I'm

> having another empty list view problem on the Windows setup tab under

> add/remove programs. Would doing that fix it?

>

> Alright, if we call Windstream again to have them send the DSL modem

> and during setup it does the same thing again what should I do?

>

> Also, I think my family would rather have the question of if we should

> upgrade to XP and if the upgrade would undo the fix I've just done.

> I think my sister is tired of being made fun of by having a box with

> an OS that most people call subpar. IMO, Vista is more subpar than

> ME.

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

 

An "out of the box" clean install of Win Me here shows 488 INF files dated

8 June 2000 in the Windows\Inf folder. PRECOPY1.CAB contains 370 INF

files, BASE2.CAB contains 2 INF files and WIN_18.CAB a further 166, a

total of 538. I don't think that any harm is likely to result from

extracting all of these and placing them in the Windows\Inf folder.

 

I just extracted all those files and went to the Windows Setup tab and to my

surprise the list view was no longer empty! :)

 

I re-installed the games since internet checkers went missing a while back.

Hm, this machine was built back in '01, the only concern I would have is

burner for it was only for ME and Win2k. Although, is it true that most

Win2k drivers work on XP?

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

> I just extracted all those files and went to the Windows Setup tab

> and to my surprise the list view was no longer empty! :)

 

A problem you had not previously mentioned, or at least not that I recall

in this thread, and yes, restoring the INF files would re-populate

Add/Remove Programs | Windows Setup. In addition you should now find that

you are able to create a Win Me boot floppy using Add/Remove Programs |

Startup Disk now that you have restored BASE2.CAB.

> the only concern I

> would have is burner for it was only for ME and Win2k. Although, is

> it true that most Win2k drivers work on XP?

 

I have to assume here that you mean your CD burning SOFTWARE was for Win

Me/W2K. Moving to XP would probably mean your upgrading a fair bit of

software including anti-virus, CD burning and firewall

applications/software in addition to locating and installing XP drivers

for your audio and network card(s) due to changes in how these work in XP.

In fact before making any attempt to install XP I would want to track down

and save XP compatible drivers for all my hardware.

 

Best of luck.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

>

> An "out of the box" clean install of Win Me here shows 488 INF files

> dated 8 June 2000 in the Windows\Inf folder. PRECOPY1.CAB contains

> 370 INF files, BASE2.CAB contains 2 INF files and WIN_18.CAB a

> further 166, a

> total of 538. I don't think that any harm is likely to result from

> extracting all of these and placing them in the Windows\Inf folder.

>

> I just extracted all those files and went to the Windows Setup tab

> and to my surprise the list view was no longer empty! :)

>

> I re-installed the games since internet checkers went missing a while

> back. Hm, this machine was built back in '01, the only concern I

> would have is burner for it was only for ME and Win2k. Although, is

> it true that most Win2k drivers work on XP?

[Guest SSJ04 Mewtwo]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

 

 

A problem you had not previously mentioned, or at least not that I recall

in this thread, and yes, restoring the INF files would re-populate

Add/Remove Programs | Windows Setup. In addition you should now find that

you are able to create a Win Me boot floppy using Add/Remove Programs |

Startup Disk now that you have restored BASE2.CAB.

I think I'd mentioned it in a thread way...,way back but never found a

solution. And yes, I've made a WinME boot floppy disk. I've got it safely

tucked away with my JAWS authorization floppy.

[Guest George Gee]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo

 

Anyone trying to follow this thread will probably find it hard work, as you

seem to be removing the indents that OE adds to differentiate between

posters!

 

George Gee

 

 

"SSJ04 Mewtwo" <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:fj9c62$mv1$1@news.datemas.de...

> Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

>

>

> A problem you had not previously mentioned, or at least not that I recall

> in this thread, and yes, restoring the INF files would re-populate

> Add/Remove Programs | Windows Setup. In addition you should now find that

> you are able to create a Win Me boot floppy using Add/Remove Programs |

> Startup Disk now that you have restored BASE2.CAB.

> I think I'd mentioned it in a thread way...,way back but never found a

> solution. And yes, I've made a WinME boot floppy disk. I've got it

> safely

> tucked away with my JAWS authorization floppy.

>

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

> I think I'd mentioned it in a thread way...,way back

 

Not in this thread, that information could perhaps have led me to the

cause of your problems somewhat quicker than I did. You might also want

to try and establish who deleted all the INF files and why since I am

pretty confident that nothing from Cox would have done so. The reason I

ask is that unless you know who and why there is a pretty good chance the

same might happen again.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

SSJ04 Mewtwo <ssj04mewtwo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think I'd mentioned it in a thread way...,way back but never found a

> solution. And yes, I've made a WinME boot floppy disk. I've got it

> safely tucked away with my JAWS authorization floppy.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: A question on going from ME to XP

 

George Gee <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote:

> SSJ04 Mewtwo

>

> Anyone trying to follow this thread will probably find it hard work,

> as you seem to be removing the indents that OE adds to differentiate

> between posters!

 

Indeed! I also wish that I had been more awake and realised earlier in

the thread the cause of the problem was missing INF files.

--

Mike M