Motherboard issue

[puregreen]

First of all, Thank you to The administrators of this forum Very Fast Activation thought i was going to waiting a while,

 

anyway to the point,

 

First my Spec,

 

QX9770 3.2 (not OC'ed)

1 GIG OCZ DDR3 (14400 not OC'ed)asus stiker II extreame Mobo

Geforce 9800 Gx2

Creative X-fi Pro sound card

 

im running on a Dell 3008 WTP 30" screen and at Desktop i run at 2560 X 1600

 

and on games i tend to run at 2560 X 1600 also,

 

the issue i have and i have never really found my Anser i sometimes when im playing a game sometimes i have Sorta like lag everything somthing BIG happens like for EG i will be playing L4d and a Tank Apears or a Boomber Blows up, i get like almost a second where it just sorta locks.. and the sound can sometimes loop for that second, its not inoprable .. but its annoying and when im in windows xp i if i have 2 or more transfers going at the same time lets say i have like 4 going, (like yesterday) they dont just go up by like 10 mins (so like from 14, to 24) they All go Sky Rocket! to likke 120 mins and dont Apear to copy anything, and if i try click any Progame it dose nothing and i cant click any Windows at all untill its loaded the progamme i clicked, and the only way to get it to normal is cancelin some of the transfers, i mean i know most ppl dont transfer like 5+ items at a time but i mean i didnt have a problem with my old P3 pc or my P4 pc.. my main guess would be that i only have 1 gig of ram, but at the same time a while back i had a water leek on my Water cooling, but i apeared to solve it all.

 

i dryed it ages ago like 4 months ago i toke it all apart and Dryed it and used a hair Dryer on the low Setting at a Distance And it Dosent appear damaged... anyway if i remember anything more that could help ill Post it.. thats it for now.

 

got a dog To look after.. So yeah ill cheak when i get home, or maybe in a lil bit if i get the chance to get on the pc again,

 

Cheers guys! i really hope you can help, Anything you think could help please post it anyway i dont care! anything to help, .. So yeah my hunch is mobo.. or Ram Maybe cpu... but i dough it... no Lockups... at all really the occausnal BSOD that makes no sence and is Random.. ( like Every 2 - 3 weeks)

 

anyway Cheers!!

 

puregreen

 

PS Sorry For my REALLY bad Spelling... im a Awful speller.. i have a Broad Vocabulary but when it gets to spelling them instead of saying them.... well, yeah cheers.

Edited April 1, 2009 by puregreen

[maynardvdm]

Hi

 

Welcome to Extreme Tech Support - Free PC Help.

 

First place to start is, do you have the latest drivers for your graphics card.

 

You can find it here: Drivers - Download NVIDIA Drivers

[puregreen]

@Maynardvdm

First of all Thank for for such a fast Reply!

 

i knew there is somthing i forgot to post! Sorry,

 

Yeah All drivers are up to date, i have used some old drivers and the New Drivers and some beta drivers and the Omega Drivers for my Grafix card in Attempt to See if it was the Grafic Card, And i get the same issue with all of them, it Dosent help,

 

as for my Mobo im useing the lateist chipset Drivers

and the Lastist soundcard drivers, (when i take my Sound card out it dosent make a Diffrence it still dose the same thing (lagging) but i just dont hear the sound

 

 

Cheers!

 

Puregreen

[maynardvdm]

Hi

 

Ok my second suggestion is make sure there is no dust build up on the fans and that all is working.

 

Do you know the temp of your CPU and GPU?

[puregreen]

Yeah done that already i built it and Maintain it, every 3 - 4 weeks i do a clean out

no dust anywhere

 

CPU temps

 

IDLE:

CORE 1 22

CORE 2 21

CORE 3 14 (odd i know..)

CORE 4 23

 

LOAD: (left it for about 20 mins)

CORE 1 30

CORE 2 25

CORE 3 28

CORE 4 26

[Dalo Harkin]

2560x1600 is a huge resolution even for that card - I used to have the same monitor and opted to sell it and get 2x 22'' ones - anyhow back to your issue.

 

When you say that you have removed the GPU drivers and installed the latest ones - this is my definition of uninstalling a GPU driver.

 

Go to nvidia.com and get the latest GPU driver.

go to add/remove and uninstall the old GPU driver

Restart

Go to C:/program files/nvidia and check that all the files eg 192.16 etc are all gone.

and then install the new driver you downloaded and restart.

 

Is that the process you use? you may need to get Nvidia driver cleaner and run that.

 

As for your issue for lag in transfers - thats down to the transfer rate of the HDD and your RAM and 1GB of RAM will NOT be helping your gaming experience either

 

Hope this helps

[puregreen]

Thanks for your input Dalo,

 

Yeah i have tryed both, i normal use the driver cleaner anyway but i have tryed the bog Standard way Too, still no luck,

 

i would have guess the ram could be buggering it up, i ordered 4 gigs of OCZ platanum last night anyway just to be on the save side i will use them anyway evan if it dosent HELP my problem,

 

i miss not having loads of ram lol,

 

Yeah.. i think it may be the HDD.. i have a SDD but i stuffed it in my ps3 because it only had a 30 gig (and the SSD is 64 gig) my main intention was just more space,

 

it wasnt to go "MY PS3 has a SSD HARDDRIVE!!! WOOGHOO"

i was gonig to pull it out and put it back in my machine just to install the OS and a few games, and have this Drive (750) as a Data dump

 

but i managed to loose track of where the 'Safe' place i put it was lol...

 

Cheers for everyones input, ill keep you updated how it preforms when i put the 4 gigs of ram in (its DDR3 too)

[puregreen]

oh yeah not that it matters, but i forgot, The PSU wouldnt give me this problem would it?... its a Silverstone 1.3Kwat.. cant remember the model number .. but it was about 260 when i borught it,

 

Cheers.

Puregreen

[puregreen]

OKIES update,

 

got 4 gigs of Ram now worked a treat.. Sorted lag problems out Straght away.

 

Still Lock up now and then, pluss sometimes when it locks up, and then i restart, the pc lights just Flash REALLY quick.. i mean like Flash (all the lights) evan the mobo lights, Soundcard, Grafic card.. almost like my PSU is givng the issue.. What do you think?...

 

i still have a hunch it might be the mobo since the water damage..

 

I might try another PSU and see how it goes,

 

anyone have any idears?.. :) cheers guys thanks for all the help so far..

 

Cheers,

Puregreen

[puregreen]

Also What is the most Common Coruse of Lockups

i mean it cant be the ram, its Fie, Passed memtest (windows one and dos one) pluss its new ram

CPU seems fine i think, might sit it on a PRIME 95 unless theres a better CPU tester?......

Grafic Card is fine i think

 

i have always wanted to ask but never fought of the right way to say it..

 

cheers guys

Puregreen

[DirtyPolo]

'Lock ups' are generally caused by Driver issues, or compatibility issues I would also say overheating but we've already counted this out as you say you maintain your PC well enough.

 

Since you have put the new RAM in, what were you doing when it locks up now?

 

is it just random lock ups or is it when you are putting the pc under some strain?

[puregreen]

It Almost seems random.. sometimes when im doing something like a game, Sometimes i can not evan be useing it.. and it just LOCKS..

 

i Recently installed windows 7 to test (im still useing windows XP as a duel boot)

 

and its not been as BAD.. but it Still locks up, Vista just hated my Whole System..

 

i cant help feel Frustrated, that i have such a high Sped machine and its not working Properly.. lol :(

 

Cheers,

Puregreen

[maynardvdm]

Hi

 

You can try another PSU to rule that out as a cause.

[puregreen]

OK. News update its a lot more random now, it has locked a few times in Bios and evan when Starting windows, its defiantly a hardware issue.. no way its anything software based.

 

Ill cheak another PSU if i can.

 

Ill let you know once i have tested the PSU,

 

got a feeling its the motherboard tho...

but Hey, one Step at a time!

 

Cheers,

Puregreen

[Match]

I know in post #5 you answered about CPU temps, but what do you class as load?

 

I also know that is quite often the case that windows applications that read the bios temps have a % of error but by comparing what Bios reads to the application can give an accurate temperature.

 

which brings me to the point of Temperature under load!! my version of under load is Both cores (Yes you have more but we wont talk about that) running at 100% in task manager (Transcoding Video is good), then monitor the temps A) to make sure that there is no more than a couple of degree's variance per single core B) to work out the average temp per single core

 

And why I say this is that you have a core sitting at 14C that goes up to 28C sitting idle in bios (I take it that's where you are getting your readings from).

[DirtyPolo]

I believe, given your latest installments of information, that your problem is regulating from either the PSU or your motherboard.

[puregreen]

@Match as for under load i use Prime95 and Burnintest with the MAXUIM HEAT SETTING on,

 

and witch ever one gives me the hottist temps after 30 mins i post, (not running togeather oviusly,

 

so all 4 cores are at about 97 - 100%

 

@Dirtpolo

 

Yeah i got a hunch that its the motherbaord... i realyl do. im going to put some cash aside from work this week and see if i can get one, was looking at this board, do you think it will do the job?.. its not where as good as the one i have.. but then again mine seems broke.. So anything seems better.. ^^

 

i couldnt really find a decent review on it.. but it seemd OK in reviews, (wanted one for about £100 - £130)

 

Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3LR

LINK : Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3LR Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

 

I Quoted the link because on some forums they ask ppl to quote it :)

 

cheers,

Puregreen

[puregreen]

New info, i have disabled 2 of the cores, so im only useing core 1 and core 2, core3 and core 4 is disabled

 

and so far.. i mean it still locks up... just not much.. i can leave it on almost 5 - 10 hurs with no lockups and playing games with no lock ups for ages.. but it still locks up.. just not as quick..

 

any idears?...

[Dalo Harkin]

Have you installed the CPU driver? from the Intel site?

[puregreen]

Drivers...?.. for cpus.. i tought it was more just a architecture..

 

anyhow.. no i guess not, tryed googling a QX9770 Driver .. no info.. went on the site and looked for what they have on my cpu.. and its just this

 

"

Processor Idenifcation utility

 

"

[Dalo Harkin]

Right - when you originally installed the OS - can you tell us EXACTLY what you did after that.

If a system is not setup correctly to start then it will never run as it should.

 

You are missing either a BIOS update or an updated chipset driver in my opinion

[puregreen]

well, the bios is as far as it goes, i think its like F06 or F09 ill cheak later when it boots,

 

anyway once my OS was installed the first thing was my chipset drivers

then i restarted, and i insatlled my soundcard then restarteed then my grafix card and restarted then my lan drivers then restarted, then once all my drivers where on i poped my anti virus on and sorted that out, then i pluged my pc in to my network and updated it and enabled the firewall properly.

[puregreen]

news update going to try another motherboard if i can

[Dalo Harkin]

I doubt the MOBO will be causing any lag

Lags are normally created by software and not hardware, hardware that can effect lags are RAM, CPU and HDD

 

There have been lots of issues in the past with Quads being used on certain MOBO - but these resulted in hard crashes, not lock ups.

 

I would say the next thing to have a look at would be the RAM voltages and timings - adding an additional 2GB of RAM normally requires this anyway