Guest Ryan Small Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 I have looked all over Microsoft's site and searched Google and have yet to find the answer to what should be a very basic question: Do any of the server products (Windows Server, SQL Server, etc.) electronically enforce usage based upon the number of CAL's or are they simply a paper-based license? Example: A Windows Server is configured for 5 CAL'S. If 6 users attempt to access the server simultaneously, what will happen since there are more users accessing it than there are CAL's? Please, please, please help me to answer this question. Specifically, here is the exact problem I am trying to troubleshoot: A Windows Server 2003 has a Microsoft SQL Instance installed on it. Periodically, problems are experienced from the clients trying to connect to the database. We are trying to troubleshoot this problem to see whether it is a licensing problem with either Windows Server or SQL Server. If the CAL licensing is not electronically enforced than I know that the problem must lie elsewhere; however, if it is electronically enforced than it could be a problem of licensing for either Windows or SQL Server. Thanks, Ryan
Guest Danny Sanders Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Re: Total CAL (Licensing) Frustration! > Example: A Windows Server is configured for 5 CAL'S. If 6 users attempt > to access the server simultaneously, what will happen since there are more > users accessing it than there are CAL's? That depends on if you are in per seat or per server. In per server the 6th connection will be refused. In per seat the 6th connection will be accepted. If the license logging service is stopped and disabled the 6th connection will be accepted. > Specifically, here is the exact problem I am trying to troubleshoot: > > A Windows Server 2003 has a Microsoft SQL Instance installed on it. > Periodically, problems are experienced from the clients trying to connect > to the database. We are trying to troubleshoot this problem to see > whether it is a licensing problem with either Windows Server or SQL > Server. If the CAL licensing is not electronically enforced than I know > that the problem must lie elsewhere; however, if it is electronically > enforced than it could be a problem of licensing for either Windows or SQL > Server. Not having enough CAL for the server will not cause this. Not having enough SQL licenses will not cause this either. You might look in the event viewer. hth DDS "Ryan Small" <ryan.small@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23NHSwzpNIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I have looked all over Microsoft's site and searched Google and have yet to >find the answer to what should be a very basic question: > > Do any of the server products (Windows Server, SQL Server, etc.) > electronically enforce usage based upon the number of CAL's or are they > simply a paper-based license? > > Example: A Windows Server is configured for 5 CAL'S. If 6 users attempt > to access the server simultaneously, what will happen since there are more > users accessing it than there are CAL's? > > Please, please, please help me to answer this question. > > Specifically, here is the exact problem I am trying to troubleshoot: > > A Windows Server 2003 has a Microsoft SQL Instance installed on it. > Periodically, problems are experienced from the clients trying to connect > to the database. We are trying to troubleshoot this problem to see > whether it is a licensing problem with either Windows Server or SQL > Server. If the CAL licensing is not electronically enforced than I know > that the problem must lie elsewhere; however, if it is electronically > enforced than it could be a problem of licensing for either Windows or SQL > Server. > > Thanks, > > Ryan
Guest Ryan Small Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Re: Total CAL (Licensing) Frustration! Thank you so much for your reply! So, just to confirm: In "Per Server" licensing, usage is enforced provided that the licensing service is not stopped. In "Per Seat" licensing, usage is not enforced (regardless of the status of the licensing service). -Ryan Danny Sanders wrote: >> Example: A Windows Server is configured for 5 CAL'S. If 6 users attempt >> to access the server simultaneously, what will happen since there are more >> users accessing it than there are CAL's? > > > That depends on if you are in per seat or per server. In per server the 6th > connection will be refused. In per seat the 6th connection will be accepted. > If the license logging service is stopped and disabled the 6th connection > will be accepted. > >> Specifically, here is the exact problem I am trying to troubleshoot: >> >> A Windows Server 2003 has a Microsoft SQL Instance installed on it. >> Periodically, problems are experienced from the clients trying to connect >> to the database. We are trying to troubleshoot this problem to see >> whether it is a licensing problem with either Windows Server or SQL >> Server. If the CAL licensing is not electronically enforced than I know >> that the problem must lie elsewhere; however, if it is electronically >> enforced than it could be a problem of licensing for either Windows or SQL >> Server. > > Not having enough CAL for the server will not cause this. Not having enough > SQL licenses will not cause this either. You might look in the event viewer. > > hth > DDS > > "Ryan Small" <ryan.small@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23NHSwzpNIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I have looked all over Microsoft's site and searched Google and have yet to >> find the answer to what should be a very basic question: >> >> Do any of the server products (Windows Server, SQL Server, etc.) >> electronically enforce usage based upon the number of CAL's or are they >> simply a paper-based license? >> >> Example: A Windows Server is configured for 5 CAL'S. If 6 users attempt >> to access the server simultaneously, what will happen since there are more >> users accessing it than there are CAL's? >> >> Please, please, please help me to answer this question. >> >> Specifically, here is the exact problem I am trying to troubleshoot: >> >> A Windows Server 2003 has a Microsoft SQL Instance installed on it. >> Periodically, problems are experienced from the clients trying to connect >> to the database. We are trying to troubleshoot this problem to see >> whether it is a licensing problem with either Windows Server or SQL >> Server. If the CAL licensing is not electronically enforced than I know >> that the problem must lie elsewhere; however, if it is electronically >> enforced than it could be a problem of licensing for either Windows or SQL >> Server. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ryan > >
Guest Danny Sanders Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Re: Total CAL (Licensing) Frustration! Yep. As an FYI the license logging service has not- does not- and probably will never work as expected. In every server I have setup I stop and disable the license logging service. It is not needed. It is an afterthought add-on put there solely to help the administrator. But it doesn't work. If you revoke licenses they re appear and cause license issues. There was a reg hack that would reset your licenses and allow you to re enter your licenses, but that never took care of the actual problem. After the reghack if you revoked a license it would still show up again causing license issues. You get caught in a vicious circle of revoking licenses, license logging errors, running the reg hack, re entering the licenses, revoke a license, license logging errors, reg hack, re enter licenses.... I just ended up stopping and disabling the service. hth DDS "Ryan Small" <ryan.small@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23ieFAKrNIHA.820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Thank you so much for your reply! > > So, just to confirm: > > In "Per Server" licensing, usage is enforced provided that the licensing > service is not stopped. > > In "Per Seat" licensing, usage is not enforced (regardless of the status > of the licensing service). > > -Ryan > > Danny Sanders wrote: >>> Example: A Windows Server is configured for 5 CAL'S. If 6 users >>> attempt to access the server simultaneously, what will happen since >>> there are more users accessing it than there are CAL's? >> >> >> That depends on if you are in per seat or per server. In per server the >> 6th connection will be refused. In per seat the 6th connection will be >> accepted. If the license logging service is stopped and disabled the 6th >> connection will be accepted. >> >>> Specifically, here is the exact problem I am trying to troubleshoot: >>> >>> A Windows Server 2003 has a Microsoft SQL Instance installed on it. >>> Periodically, problems are experienced from the clients trying to >>> connect to the database. We are trying to troubleshoot this problem to >>> see whether it is a licensing problem with either Windows Server or SQL >>> Server. If the CAL licensing is not electronically enforced than I know >>> that the problem must lie elsewhere; however, if it is electronically >>> enforced than it could be a problem of licensing for either Windows or >>> SQL Server. >> >> Not having enough CAL for the server will not cause this. Not having >> enough SQL licenses will not cause this either. You might look in the >> event viewer. >> >> hth >> DDS >> >> "Ryan Small" <ryan.small@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23NHSwzpNIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> I have looked all over Microsoft's site and searched Google and have yet >>> to find the answer to what should be a very basic question: >>> >>> Do any of the server products (Windows Server, SQL Server, etc.) >>> electronically enforce usage based upon the number of CAL's or are they >>> simply a paper-based license? >>> >>> Example: A Windows Server is configured for 5 CAL'S. If 6 users >>> attempt to access the server simultaneously, what will happen since >>> there are more users accessing it than there are CAL's? >>> >>> Please, please, please help me to answer this question. >>> >>> Specifically, here is the exact problem I am trying to troubleshoot: >>> >>> A Windows Server 2003 has a Microsoft SQL Instance installed on it. >>> Periodically, problems are experienced from the clients trying to >>> connect to the database. We are trying to troubleshoot this problem to >>> see whether it is a licensing problem with either Windows Server or SQL >>> Server. If the CAL licensing is not electronically enforced than I know >>> that the problem must lie elsewhere; however, if it is electronically >>> enforced than it could be a problem of licensing for either Windows or >>> SQL Server. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Ryan >>
Guest Ryan Small Posted December 5, 2007 Posted December 5, 2007 Re: Total CAL (Licensing) Frustration! Many thanks!!! -Ryan
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