Guest 98 Guy Posted December 8, 2007 Posted December 8, 2007 Re: DSL support "Tiffany S." wrote: > I don't necessarily have to use this Westell E90 USB-capable > modem. Remember, I am also in temporary possession of a > Motorola 2210-02 and a 2-Wire 4200-001053-000. I don't know who or where the "2-wire" term came from, but it's not a common or useful way to refer to a modem or modem/router. > The 2-wire is obviously the best because it is also a 4-port > wireless router -- probably similar to the Linksys that was > recommended to me. You want to keep which-ever device has NAT-router functionality built into it. That would mean any of them that has more than 1 ethernet port (aka LAN port). > However, I have only one PC, no need for wi-fi, and my > philosophy is to keep it simple. If the only modem with NAT-router functionality also has wifi, or multiple LAN ports, then don't reject the modem on that basis. The wifi can be turned off, and you're not forced to buy more PC's to connect to the unused LAN ports. > The Westell is more solidly constructed than the Motorola, > but it is a reconditioned unit and most probably an obsolete > model. If you are at all interested in the relative performance of the various modems, then you should read about them in the hardware formus of DSLReports.com. You won't be able to judge how well they work by how well their external cases are constructed. > Do you think that either the Westell or Motorola is good enough, > or am I being extremely foolish if I do not use the 2-wire? Again, the use of the term "2-wire" is not appropriate in this context. Use which-ever modem has built-in NAT-router functionality as a bare minimum criteria. Above that, use which-ever modem has 4 LAN ports. > Is the 2-wire as easy to set up as the Westell? Your questions about ease of use should be posted to DSLReports forums pertaining to either your ISP or the appropriate hardware forum. > Will I be able to defeat the wi-fi so that my activity can't > be monitored by my neighbors? Most likely yes, the wifi component can be disabled. > I'm sorry to be such a PITA. You are on the virge of becoming a PITA if you don't stop staring at the modems and instead plug one of them in and turn it on and connect it to your soon-to-be-installed ethernet card.
Guest 98 Guy Posted December 8, 2007 Posted December 8, 2007 Re: DSL support Franc Zabkar wrote: > That should be 192.168.1.254 Thanks Franc. I guess I read just far enough to see the 192.168.1 and assumed the modem would be located at 192.168.1.1.
Guest 98 Guy Posted December 8, 2007 Posted December 8, 2007 Re: DSL support Full-Quoter and Top-poster "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Suggest you ignore him, also, since he is obviously piling on > stuff that is totally irrelevant to your problem. Don't be such an ass Gary. My posts have gotten Tiffany further, faster, than yours. > Yes, you *should* have a router in addition to the DSL modem, > for enhanced security of NAT. And you piss all over me for giving her the same advice.
Guest Tiffany S. Posted December 8, 2007 Posted December 8, 2007 Re: DSL support On Sat, Dec 8, 2007, 10:16am, 98@Guy.com (98 Guy) wrote: >I don't know who or where the "2-wire" term > came from, but it's not a common or useful > way to refer to a modem or modem/router. I believe it's the brand name. It's etched as a huge logo in the modem's case. >Use which-ever modem has built-in >NAT-router functionality as a bare minimum > criteria. I never would have known that if I hadn't posted numerously here. >Above that, use which-ever modem has 4 LAN > ports. I never would have known THAT if I hadn't posted numerously here. I need only ONE port, so that is one thing I would not have asked about. >Your questions about ease of use should be > posted to DSLReports forums Thank you. Now I know THAT. I *am* getting pretty good advice here, though. >You are on the virge of becoming a PITA if > you don't stop staring at the modems and > instead plug one of them in and turn it on and > connect it to your soon-to-be-installed > ethernet card. Up to this point, I have nothing to plug them into. I know I can't evaluate a modem by the appearance of its outer case. That's why I'm attempting to ask people who have used them.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted December 8, 2007 Posted December 8, 2007 Re: DSL support The USB might be useful in the future, but then, so might wireless. My bet is on the wireless. I wouldn't want the Motorola, since it has no NAT routing like the other two. Yes, you can disable the wi-fi on the 2-Wire. In my experience, the 2-Wire you describe is easy as pie to set up, but don't hit me if it isn't, OK? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Tiffany S." <NiceTiffany@webtv.net> wrote in message news:18345-475A9653-539@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > Now that I have decided to get an ethernet card, I don't necessarily > have to use this Westell E90 USB-capable modem. Remember, I am also in > temporary possession of a Motorola 2210-02 and a 2-Wire 4200-001053-000. > > The 2-wire is obviously the best because it is also a 4-port wireless > router -- probably similar to the Linksys that was recommended to me. > However, I have only one PC, no need for wi-fi, and my philosophy is to > keep it simple. > > The Westell is more solidly constructed than the Motorola, but it is a > reconditioned unit and most probably an obsolete model. > > Do you think that either the Westell or Motorola is good enough, or am I > being extremely foolish if I do not use the 2-wire? > > Is the 2-wire as easy to set up as the Westell? Will I be able to > defeat the wi-fi so that my activity can't be monitored by my neighbors? > > I'm sorry to be such a PITA. >
Guest dadiOH Posted December 8, 2007 Posted December 8, 2007 Re: DSL support 98 Guy wrote: > You are on the virge of becoming a PITA if you don't stop staring at > the modems and instead plug one of them in and turn it on and > connect it to your soon-to-be-installed ethernet card. :) The difference between success and failure is... ACTION! (Note - sometimes disaster enters in too :) -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Tiffany S. Posted December 9, 2007 Posted December 9, 2007 Re: DSL support I installed the ethernet card, plugged in the 2-Wire (sorry about the "incorrect" term, but *I* am not the one who named it) modem, and it is working. Thank you, everyone, for your help. 98 Guy, are you gonna miss me when I'm gone?
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted December 9, 2007 Posted December 9, 2007 Re: DSL support Glad to hear of your success, Tiffany. FYI, that thing is a "modem" (translates signals from a telco line into signals usable by the computer) It's also a "gateway" (provides an interface between your LAN and the ISP), and it's also a "router" with NAT (routes signals from one LAN component to another, provides individual addresses for each component, and "translates" signals from the outside to the appropriate inside address.) All three in one. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Tiffany S." <NiceTiffany@webtv.net> wrote in message news:11641-475B8EC9-612@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net... >I installed the ethernet card, plugged in the 2-Wire (sorry about the > "incorrect" term, but *I* am not the one who named it) modem, and it is > working. > > Thank you, everyone, for your help. > > 98 Guy, are you gonna miss me when I'm gone? >
Guest Tiffany S. Posted December 9, 2007 Posted December 9, 2007 Re: DSL support >FYI, that thing is a "modem" (translates > signals from a telco line into signals usable by > the computer) It's also a "gateway" (provides > an interface between your LAN and the ISP), > and it's also a "router" with NAT (routes > signals from one LAN component to another, > provides individual addresses for each > component, and "translates" signals from the > outside to the appropriate inside address.) I know that. But when I'm talking about three of them, and one is branded Motorola, one is branded 2Wire, and one is branded Westell, is it really wrong to refer to them as the Motorola, the 2Wire, and the Westell?
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted December 9, 2007 Posted December 9, 2007 Re: DSL support Not at all. I just thought you were confused about what was what. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Tiffany S." <NiceTiffany@webtv.net> wrote in message news:11641-475C41D9-651@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net... > >FYI, that thing is a "modem" (translates >> signals from a telco line into signals usable by >> the computer) It's also a "gateway" (provides >> an interface between your LAN and the ISP), >> and it's also a "router" with NAT (routes >> signals from one LAN component to another, >> provides individual addresses for each >> component, and "translates" signals from the >> outside to the appropriate inside address.) > > I know that. But when I'm talking about three of them, and one is > branded Motorola, one is branded 2Wire, and one is branded Westell, is > it really wrong to refer to them as the Motorola, the 2Wire, and the > Westell? >
Guest 98 Guy Posted December 9, 2007 Posted December 9, 2007 Re: DSL support "Tiffany S." wrote: > one is branded Motorola, one is branded 2Wire, and one is branded > Westell, is it really wrong to refer to them as the Motorola, the > 2Wire, and the Westell? Oh bloody hell. If the thing actually has "2 wire" stamped on it, then yes of course you can call it 2-wire. I've never seen a phone line that wasn't 2-wires, so why anyone would want to name a modem "2-wire" makes no sense.
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