Designing Server 2003 multisite Licensing setup, CALS

[Guest frm3389]

Need help designing an effective licensing setup for our network.

article reference:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/caloverview.mspx

 

If you can answer any of my questions, i appreciate it.

 

We currently have 11 geographic sites.

Each location has its own server 2003 domain controller.

Everyone in the business maps a drive to the main location's server.

All, office's are connected via WAN.

I have setup each server to be its own license server in sites and services.

Employees may move around and work at different locations depending on what

is going on.

 

I would like to buy device CALS (more employees than computers)

 

QUESTION #1: SERVER MODES

Should I use Per User/Per Device mode or Per Server mode.

The article above says I can use either server mode with either license types.

 

Can I use different server modes on different servers or do they all have to

use the same server mode in the same domain?

 

I would like to buy say 150 device CALS and put the main server in "Per

server Mode" and add 150 CALS to it. Then each branch office location would

be in per server mode with say 10 CALS - 7 computers at each branch office

and extra CALS installed for System Admins to connect to the servers for

backups or maintenance.

So, technically speaking, I would have the main office configured to use 150

CALS + 100 CALS total at the branch offices = 250 CALS when we only

purchased 150 CALS.

 

Is this how it is suppose to work?

 

Can I mix the server modes on different domain controllers? The person who

originally designed the network setup the main server in “Per user/device”

mode and added 10,000 CALS. I know I cannot go back, but is this will this

mess anything up.

 

QUESTION #2: HOW DO THE SERVER MODES TRACK CALS.

My understanding is that when you are in Per server mode the server only

tracks concurrent connections. When a computer disconnects, by say shutting

down the computer, does the server free up a CAL?

And when you are in Per User/Device Mode the server keeps track of users -

and then you have to revoke users if they no longer work there or else new

employees or employees who move from branch to branch will be denied access.

 

Is this correct?

Does each computer keep a registry entry of is license status in the domain?

 

QUESTION #3: IF SOMEONE PRINTS TO A PRINT QUEUE AT A REMOTE OFFICE DOES

THAT COUNT AS A CAL?

 

Joe

[Guest Danny Sanders]

Re: Designing Server 2003 multisite Licensing setup, CALS

 

FYI The license logging service does not work as expected. It is an after

thought add-on that was put there to help the admin keep track of licenses.

But it does not work and has not worked since the NT 4.0 days. On *every*

server I roll out the license logging service is the first thing I stop and

disable.

 

I would suggest you stop and disable the license logging service and keep

track of your licenses manually as if in per seat mode. If ever audited and

the license logging service is stopped you are assumed to be in per seat

mode.

 

150 users in 11 sites? Buy 150 CALs and be done with it. Don't add them to

the server, just be able to prove you have them in case of an audit.

 

hth

DDS

 

"frm3389" <frm3389@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A76CDCF6-B5D2-4FBB-9BC0-2CC6A838E925@microsoft.com...

> Need help designing an effective licensing setup for our network.

> article reference:

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/caloverview.mspx

>

> If you can answer any of my questions, i appreciate it.

>

> We currently have 11 geographic sites.

> Each location has its own server 2003 domain controller.

> Everyone in the business maps a drive to the main location's server.

> All, office's are connected via WAN.

> I have setup each server to be its own license server in sites and

> services.

> Employees may move around and work at different locations depending on

> what

> is going on.

>

> I would like to buy device CALS (more employees than computers)

>

> QUESTION #1: SERVER MODES

> Should I use Per User/Per Device mode or Per Server mode.

> The article above says I can use either server mode with either license

> types.

>

> Can I use different server modes on different servers or do they all have

> to

> use the same server mode in the same domain?

>

> I would like to buy say 150 device CALS and put the main server in "Per

> server Mode" and add 150 CALS to it. Then each branch office location

> would

> be in per server mode with say 10 CALS - 7 computers at each branch office

> and extra CALS installed for System Admins to connect to the servers for

> backups or maintenance.

> So, technically speaking, I would have the main office configured to use

> 150

> CALS + 100 CALS total at the branch offices = 250 CALS when we only

> purchased 150 CALS.

>

> Is this how it is suppose to work?

>

> Can I mix the server modes on different domain controllers? The person who

> originally designed the network setup the main server in "Per user/device"

> mode and added 10,000 CALS. I know I cannot go back, but is this will

> this

> mess anything up.

>

> QUESTION #2: HOW DO THE SERVER MODES TRACK CALS.

> My understanding is that when you are in Per server mode the server only

> tracks concurrent connections. When a computer disconnects, by say

> shutting

> down the computer, does the server free up a CAL?

> And when you are in Per User/Device Mode the server keeps track of users -

> and then you have to revoke users if they no longer work there or else new

> employees or employees who move from branch to branch will be denied

> access.

>

> Is this correct?

> Does each computer keep a registry entry of is license status in the

> domain?

>

> QUESTION #3: IF SOMEONE PRINTS TO A PRINT QUEUE AT A REMOTE OFFICE DOES

> THAT COUNT AS A CAL?

>

> Joe

>

[Guest frm3389]

Re: Designing Server 2003 multisite Licensing setup, CALS

 

thanks for your response.

I thought the license logging service only reported what was going on. Are

you saying that it actually causes people to be denied access?

 

"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> FYI The license logging service .....

[Guest Danny Sanders]

Re: Designing Server 2003 multisite Licensing setup, CALS

 

If you have the license logging service running and have licenses set up in

"per server" for say 100 users, connection 101 will get denied access.

 

hth

DDS

 

"frm3389" <frm3389@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:9264261C-F217-4BB5-A878-BECF4C0C1E49@microsoft.com...

> thanks for your response.

> I thought the license logging service only reported what was going on.

> Are

> you saying that it actually causes people to be denied access?

>

> "Danny Sanders" wrote:

>

>> FYI The license logging service .....