Don't know what to head this?????

[Guest Vexander]

We run all our branches on terminal server with nothing special added to it

other than Office and Bit defender AV, we just installed Kerrige (K8), at

one of our branches. K8 is our new Sales Account and so on package it runs

on redhat and a proprietary database.

 

Our problem is this. The K8 License server see’s our TS as one client and

therefore misappropriates the licenses, the licensing is a bit complicated so

I am not going to get into it, but surface to say the license server gets it

wrong, so we run out of licenses. Secondly the licensing only allows for 10

concurrent connections from one terminal, so if 10 clients log on no one else

can, which is a problem as our one branch has 23 clients and then there are

still 4 more to go on this system. But in the K8 management app each

terminal is seen separately, which is what it is supposed to do.

 

I have spoken to someone who run’s TS on this app but he has chosen the

“Start the following program at logon” option and choose to load their client

as the explorer. He says that works fine, but his users do not need access

to office and other apps where mine do. As far as I know we are their only

site to be running like that.

 

So we have a problem. I know nothing about this app so I cannot give you

much more info on how they work stuff out internally, but they are trying to

tell me that I should also look for a solution to what is essentially their

problem. So Here I am, is there any way to ‘fool’ the system into thinking

that all the connections are coming for different terminals, by changing

something in the TS config.

 

Please and help here would be a appreciated, because, firstly I need this

solved ASAP for my sake, and secondly, I would love to solve it before they

do.

 

Thanx

[Guest Patrick Rouse]

RE: Don't know what to head this?????

 

It sounds like the application is looking at the TS' IP Address or Physical

MAC Address for identification. You might be able to get TS to return

%ClientName% instead of %hostname%, and see if that does the trick. If not,

you could try using VIP-IT from Provision Networks, which will allow you to

have a different IP Address for each session. Citrix Presentation Server

also has this capability.

 

 

--

Patrick C. Rouse

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

Provision Networks VIP

Citrix Technology Professional

President - Session Computing Solutions, LLC

http://www.sessioncomputing.com

 

 

 

"Vexander" wrote:

> We run all our branches on terminal server with nothing special added to it

> other than Office and Bit defender AV, we just installed Kerrige (K8), at

> one of our branches. K8 is our new Sales Account and so on package it runs

> on redhat and a proprietary database.

>

> Our problem is this. The K8 License server see’s our TS as one client and

> therefore misappropriates the licenses, the licensing is a bit complicated so

> I am not going to get into it, but surface to say the license server gets it

> wrong, so we run out of licenses. Secondly the licensing only allows for 10

> concurrent connections from one terminal, so if 10 clients log on no one else

> can, which is a problem as our one branch has 23 clients and then there are

> still 4 more to go on this system. But in the K8 management app each

> terminal is seen separately, which is what it is supposed to do.

>

> I have spoken to someone who run’s TS on this app but he has chosen the

> “Start the following program at logon” option and choose to load their client

> as the explorer. He says that works fine, but his users do not need access

> to office and other apps where mine do. As far as I know we are their only

> site to be running like that.

>

> So we have a problem. I know nothing about this app so I cannot give you

> much more info on how they work stuff out internally, but they are trying to

> tell me that I should also look for a solution to what is essentially their

> problem. So Here I am, is there any way to ‘fool’ the system into thinking

> that all the connections are coming for different terminals, by changing

> something in the TS config.

>

> Please and help here would be a appreciated, because, firstly I need this

> solved ASAP for my sake, and secondly, I would love to solve it before they

> do.

>

> Thanx

[Guest Vexander]

RE: Don't know what to head this?????

 

I agree I think thier serve is looking at MAC/IP

 

How do you get the TS to retrun %clientname%.

 

I will look into the other software options, but in the mean time any other

feed back will be appreciated.

 

Thanx

 

"Patrick Rouse" wrote:

> It sounds like the application is looking at the TS' IP Address or Physical

> MAC Address for identification. You might be able to get TS to return

> %ClientName% instead of %hostname%, and see if that does the trick. If not,

> you could try using VIP-IT from Provision Networks, which will allow you to

> have a different IP Address for each session. Citrix Presentation Server

> also has this capability.

>

>

> --

> Patrick C. Rouse

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> Provision Networks VIP

> Citrix Technology Professional

> President - Session Computing Solutions, LLC

> http://www.sessioncomputing.com

>

>

>

> "Vexander" wrote:

>

> > We run all our branches on terminal server with nothing special added to it

> > other than Office and Bit defender AV, we just installed Kerrige (K8), at

> > one of our branches. K8 is our new Sales Account and so on package it runs

> > on redhat and a proprietary database.

> >

> > Our problem is this. The K8 License server see’s our TS as one client and

> > therefore misappropriates the licenses, the licensing is a bit complicated so

> > I am not going to get into it, but surface to say the license server gets it

> > wrong, so we run out of licenses. Secondly the licensing only allows for 10

> > concurrent connections from one terminal, so if 10 clients log on no one else

> > can, which is a problem as our one branch has 23 clients and then there are

> > still 4 more to go on this system. But in the K8 management app each

> > terminal is seen separately, which is what it is supposed to do.

> >

> > I have spoken to someone who run’s TS on this app but he has chosen the

> > “Start the following program at logon” option and choose to load their client

> > as the explorer. He says that works fine, but his users do not need access

> > to office and other apps where mine do. As far as I know we are their only

> > site to be running like that.

> >

> > So we have a problem. I know nothing about this app so I cannot give you

> > much more info on how they work stuff out internally, but they are trying to

> > tell me that I should also look for a solution to what is essentially their

> > problem. So Here I am, is there any way to ‘fool’ the system into thinking

> > that all the connections are coming for different terminals, by changing

> > something in the TS config.

> >

> > Please and help here would be a appreciated, because, firstly I need this

> > solved ASAP for my sake, and secondly, I would love to solve it before they

> > do.

> >

> > Thanx

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

RE: Don't know what to head this?????

 

I don't know if/how you can do that, but you can make the application

provide the username instead of the hostname, by setting the

0x00000010 compatibility bit.

 

Details are here:

 

186498 - Terminal Server Application Integration Information

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=186498

 

Program compatibility flags

http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/df78c476-00d5-

41f0-a21d-e1e12e3d1f8b1033.mspx?mfr=true

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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=?Utf-8?B?VmV4YW5kZXI=?= <Vexander@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 10 dec 2007 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I agree I think thier serve is looking at MAC/IP

>

> How do you get the TS to retrun %clientname%.

>

> I will look into the other software options, but in the mean

> time any other feed back will be appreciated.

>

> Thanx

>

> "Patrick Rouse" wrote:

>

>> It sounds like the application is looking at the TS' IP Address

>> or Physical MAC Address for identification. You might be able

>> to get TS to return %ClientName% instead of %hostname%, and see

>> if that does the trick. If not, you could try using VIP-IT

>> from Provision Networks, which will allow you to have a

>> different IP Address for each session. Citrix Presentation

>> Server also has this capability.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Patrick C. Rouse

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> Provision Networks VIP

>> Citrix Technology Professional

>> President - Session Computing Solutions, LLC

>> http://www.sessioncomputing.com

>>

>>

>>

>> "Vexander" wrote:

>>

>> > We run all our branches on terminal server with nothing

>> > special added to it other than Office and Bit defender AV, we

>> > just installed Kerrige (K8), at one of our branches. K8 is

>> > our new Sales Account and so on package it runs on redhat

>> > and a proprietary database.

>> >

>> > Our problem is this. The K8 License server see’s our TS as

>> > one client and therefore misappropriates the licenses, the

>> > licensing is a bit complicated so I am not going to get into

>> > it, but surface to say the license server gets it wrong, so

>> > we run out of licenses. Secondly the licensing only allows

>> > for 10 concurrent connections from one terminal, so if 10

>> > clients log on no one else can, which is a problem as our one

>> > branch has 23 clients and then there are still 4 more to go

>> > on this system. But in the K8 management app each terminal

>> > is seen separately, which is what it is supposed to do.

>> >

>> > I have spoken to someone who run’s TS on this app but he

>> > has chosen the “Start the following program at logon”

>> > option and choose to load their client as the explorer. He

>> > says that works fine, but his users do not need access to

>> > office and other apps where mine do. As far as I know we are

>> > their only site to be running like that.

>> >

>> > So we have a problem. I know nothing about this app so I

>> > cannot give you much more info on how they work stuff out

>> > internally, but they are trying to tell me that I should also

>> > look for a solution to what is essentially their problem. So

>> > Here I am, is there any way to ‘fool’ the system into

>> > thinking that all the connections are coming for different

>> > terminals, by changing something in the TS config.

>> >

>> > Please and help here would be a appreciated, because, firstly

>> > I need this solved ASAP for my sake, and secondly, I would

>> > love to solve it before they do.

>> >

>> > Thanx