Guest Krisk Posted December 11, 2007 Posted December 11, 2007 We have Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard with 5 Client License. We also have 28 clients all running on XP SP2 laptops. The server has "dhcp server" and "file server" setup. On the server a folder is shared and the laptops map to that folder. The client computers are used for students so there could be multiple users per computer. There seems to be a problem when more then 5 computers are connected to the server. Do I need to have a license for each computer on the server for this and why? If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. I thought the 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info would be great. Thanks. Kris
Guest Danny Sanders Posted December 11, 2007 Posted December 11, 2007 Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard and 28 -- XP SP2 Clients You need a Client Access License for each workstation logging into the domain. That is MS's licensing model. In your situation you have 5 CALs and to be legal you need to buy 23 more. >If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. XP is NOT a server operating system. It will only allow 10 concurrent connections. The 11th connection will be refused until one of the original 10 connections are dropped. I thought the > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > would > be great. Thanks. Kris Those are different licenses. You need a Client access license for the desktops logging into the domain. If you were audited now you would be out of compliance as far as CALs and subject to around $50,000.00 fine per violation. $50,000.00 X 23 = $$$$$$$$ hth DDS "Krisk" <Krisk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E401303E-EE9E-43C3-9200-1DCC1B90F8FB@microsoft.com... > We have Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard with 5 Client License. We also > have > 28 clients all running on XP SP2 laptops. The server has "dhcp server" > and > "file server" setup. On the server a folder is shared and the laptops map > to > that folder. > The client computers are used for students so there could be multiple > users > per computer. There seems to be a problem when more then 5 computers are > connected to the server. > > Do I need to have a license for each computer on the server for this and > why? If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. I thought > the > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > would > be great. Thanks. Kris
Guest Krisk Posted December 11, 2007 Posted December 11, 2007 Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard and 28 -- XP SP2 Clients Thanks for the info. The server isn't setup as a domain controller in this case. Is server the same way with filesharing as XP only allowing 10 concurrent users? For this to work I need to setup active directory and add licenses for all the computers? Do I need the Device-based client CALS instead of the User-based CALS? The licenses that come with the server are they user or device based or either way? Thanks, Kris "Danny Sanders" wrote: > You need a Client Access License for each workstation logging into the > domain. That is MS's licensing model. In your situation you have 5 CALs and > to be legal you need to buy 23 more. > > >If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. > > XP is NOT a server operating system. It will only allow 10 concurrent > connections. The 11th connection will be refused until one of the original > 10 connections are dropped. > > I thought the > > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > > would > > be great. Thanks. Kris > > Those are different licenses. You need a Client access license for the > desktops logging into the domain. If you were audited now you would be out > of compliance as far as CALs and subject to around $50,000.00 fine per > violation. > > $50,000.00 X 23 = $$$$$$$$ > > hth > DDS > > "Krisk" <Krisk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E401303E-EE9E-43C3-9200-1DCC1B90F8FB@microsoft.com... > > We have Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard with 5 Client License. We also > > have > > 28 clients all running on XP SP2 laptops. The server has "dhcp server" > > and > > "file server" setup. On the server a folder is shared and the laptops map > > to > > that folder. > > The client computers are used for students so there could be multiple > > users > > per computer. There seems to be a problem when more then 5 computers are > > connected to the server. > > > > Do I need to have a license for each computer on the server for this and > > why? If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. I thought > > the > > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > > would > > be great. Thanks. Kris > > >
Guest Krisk Posted December 11, 2007 Posted December 11, 2007 Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard and 28 -- XP SP2 Clients Forgot to ask: How do you add to existing install? Thanks, Kris "Krisk" wrote: > Thanks for the info. The server isn't setup as a domain controller in this > case. Is server the same way with filesharing as XP only allowing 10 > concurrent users? > > For this to work I need to setup active directory and add licenses for all > the computers? > > Do I need the Device-based client CALS instead of the User-based CALS? > > The licenses that come with the server are they user or device based or > either way? > > Thanks, Kris > > "Danny Sanders" wrote: > > > You need a Client Access License for each workstation logging into the > > domain. That is MS's licensing model. In your situation you have 5 CALs and > > to be legal you need to buy 23 more. > > > > >If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. > > > > XP is NOT a server operating system. It will only allow 10 concurrent > > connections. The 11th connection will be refused until one of the original > > 10 connections are dropped. > > > > I thought the > > > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > > > would > > > be great. Thanks. Kris > > > > Those are different licenses. You need a Client access license for the > > desktops logging into the domain. If you were audited now you would be out > > of compliance as far as CALs and subject to around $50,000.00 fine per > > violation. > > > > $50,000.00 X 23 = $$$$$$$$ > > > > hth > > DDS > > > > "Krisk" <Krisk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:E401303E-EE9E-43C3-9200-1DCC1B90F8FB@microsoft.com... > > > We have Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard with 5 Client License. We also > > > have > > > 28 clients all running on XP SP2 laptops. The server has "dhcp server" > > > and > > > "file server" setup. On the server a folder is shared and the laptops map > > > to > > > that folder. > > > The client computers are used for students so there could be multiple > > > users > > > per computer. There seems to be a problem when more then 5 computers are > > > connected to the server. > > > > > > Do I need to have a license for each computer on the server for this and > > > why? If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. I thought > > > the > > > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > > > would > > > be great. Thanks. Kris > > > > > >
Guest Danny Sanders Posted December 11, 2007 Posted December 11, 2007 Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard and 28 -- XP SP2 Clients > Is server the same way with filesharing as XP only allowing 10 > concurrent users? No. It is a server OS. > For this to work I need to setup active directory and add licenses for all > the computers? Not necessarily. 28 users would be the reason for setting up a domain (adding AD). > Do I need the Device-based client CALS instead of the User-based CALS? > > The licenses that come with the server are they user or device based or > either way? They can be used either way. As an FYI the license logging service does not work as expected. I always stop and disable the license logging service and keep track of the licenses manually as if in per seat mode. In per seat mode, you can add as many "illegal" computers to the domain without problems. But if audited you need to be able to account for those "illegal" clients or be fined. In per server mode if you have 5 CALs only 5 concurrent connections are allowed. After that connections are refused. So Stop and disable the license logging service. If audited and the license logging service is stopped, you are assumed to be in per seat mode. Keep track of your licenses manually. Add a new client buy a CAL. hth DDS "Krisk" <Krisk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3EB204BE-92DE-4BF1-ABCB-52FE1087A6D6@microsoft.com... > Thanks for the info. The server isn't setup as a domain controller in > this > case. Is server the same way with filesharing as XP only allowing 10 > concurrent users? > > For this to work I need to setup active directory and add licenses for all > the computers? > > Do I need the Device-based client CALS instead of the User-based CALS? > > The licenses that come with the server are they user or device based or > either way? > > Thanks, Kris > > "Danny Sanders" wrote: > >> You need a Client Access License for each workstation logging into the >> domain. That is MS's licensing model. In your situation you have 5 CALs >> and >> to be legal you need to buy 23 more. >> >> >If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. >> >> XP is NOT a server operating system. It will only allow 10 concurrent >> connections. The 11th connection will be refused until one of the >> original >> 10 connections are dropped. >> >> I thought the >> > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info >> > would >> > be great. Thanks. Kris >> >> Those are different licenses. You need a Client access license for the >> desktops logging into the domain. If you were audited now you would be >> out >> of compliance as far as CALs and subject to around $50,000.00 fine per >> violation. >> >> $50,000.00 X 23 = $$$$$$$$ >> >> hth >> DDS >> >> "Krisk" <Krisk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:E401303E-EE9E-43C3-9200-1DCC1B90F8FB@microsoft.com... >> > We have Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard with 5 Client License. We also >> > have >> > 28 clients all running on XP SP2 laptops. The server has "dhcp server" >> > and >> > "file server" setup. On the server a folder is shared and the laptops >> > map >> > to >> > that folder. >> > The client computers are used for students so there could be multiple >> > users >> > per computer. There seems to be a problem when more then 5 computers >> > are >> > connected to the server. >> > >> > Do I need to have a license for each computer on the server for this >> > and >> > why? If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. I >> > thought >> > the >> > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info >> > would >> > be great. Thanks. Kris >> >> >>
Guest Krisk Posted December 11, 2007 Posted December 11, 2007 Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard and 28 -- XP SP2 Clients Thanks for the help. Kris "Danny Sanders" wrote: > > Is server the same way with filesharing as XP only allowing 10 > > concurrent users? > > No. It is a server OS. > > > For this to work I need to setup active directory and add licenses for all > > the computers? > > Not necessarily. 28 users would be the reason for setting up a domain > (adding AD). > > > Do I need the Device-based client CALS instead of the User-based CALS? > > > > The licenses that come with the server are they user or device based or > > either way? > > They can be used either way. > > > As an FYI the license logging service does not work as expected. I always > stop and disable the license logging service and keep track of the licenses > manually as if in per seat mode. In per seat mode, you can add as many > "illegal" computers to the domain without problems. But if audited you need > to be able to account for those "illegal" clients or be fined. > In per server mode if you have 5 CALs only 5 concurrent connections are > allowed. After that connections are refused. > > So Stop and disable the license logging service. If audited and the license > logging service is stopped, you are assumed to be in per seat mode. Keep > track of your licenses manually. Add a new client buy a CAL. > > > hth > DDS > > "Krisk" <Krisk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:3EB204BE-92DE-4BF1-ABCB-52FE1087A6D6@microsoft.com... > > Thanks for the info. The server isn't setup as a domain controller in > > this > > case. Is server the same way with filesharing as XP only allowing 10 > > concurrent users? > > > > For this to work I need to setup active directory and add licenses for all > > the computers? > > > > Do I need the Device-based client CALS instead of the User-based CALS? > > > > The licenses that come with the server are they user or device based or > > either way? > > > > Thanks, Kris > > > > "Danny Sanders" wrote: > > > >> You need a Client Access License for each workstation logging into the > >> domain. That is MS's licensing model. In your situation you have 5 CALs > >> and > >> to be legal you need to buy 23 more. > >> > >> >If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. > >> > >> XP is NOT a server operating system. It will only allow 10 concurrent > >> connections. The 11th connection will be refused until one of the > >> original > >> 10 connections are dropped. > >> > >> I thought the > >> > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > >> > would > >> > be great. Thanks. Kris > >> > >> Those are different licenses. You need a Client access license for the > >> desktops logging into the domain. If you were audited now you would be > >> out > >> of compliance as far as CALs and subject to around $50,000.00 fine per > >> violation. > >> > >> $50,000.00 X 23 = $$$$$$$$ > >> > >> hth > >> DDS > >> > >> "Krisk" <Krisk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:E401303E-EE9E-43C3-9200-1DCC1B90F8FB@microsoft.com... > >> > We have Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard with 5 Client License. We also > >> > have > >> > 28 clients all running on XP SP2 laptops. The server has "dhcp server" > >> > and > >> > "file server" setup. On the server a folder is shared and the laptops > >> > map > >> > to > >> > that folder. > >> > The client computers are used for students so there could be multiple > >> > users > >> > per computer. There seems to be a problem when more then 5 computers > >> > are > >> > connected to the server. > >> > > >> > Do I need to have a license for each computer on the server for this > >> > and > >> > why? If I used a XP computer for a file server it would work. I > >> > thought > >> > the > >> > 5 client license was for SQL or other server type software. Any info > >> > would > >> > be great. Thanks. Kris > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest oyebode oyetunji richard Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard and 28 -- XP SP2 Clients Really that's really true you need additional licenses of the type "Per seat". However the "per seat" license is now divided into two namely: 1. Per device: Used mainly for additional device connected to your domain independent of the user. 2. Per user: This inturn give access to the server once it is a particular user, independent of the device or machine. In summary, you need a little of both license in a school environment, permanent connections will require the Per DEvice license, while the Per user license will be used for roaming client ie students with their individual PC or Laptop. Thank you.
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