Ripping Audio CD Problems

[Guest Job]

I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs.

The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself

wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling

started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped

the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this

fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the

last five people in the universe that is still using Windows

ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the

serious stuff.

 

I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will

rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are:

CDex

Express Rip

WinAmp

dBpoweramp Music Converter

Exact Audio Copy

 

All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my

CD-RW drive nor

my CD-R drive.

 

Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It

just gave error message

"The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly!

(Error E8h) (No host adapters found)"

 

I started Googling and did not find anything specifically

talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems

with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed

fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that

<bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or

updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks

running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP).

 

My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1

so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't

help.

 

Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME

doing any "ripping"?

What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent

whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be

corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo?

 

Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas.

 

 

Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need

advice about ripping pants!"

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing optical media.

This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather dated and no

longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi layer (the

two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think, missing from XP.

In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be installed (free) if

you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I think this is no

longer the case - it can be downloaded from

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.

The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for those running

Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file to the

folder containing the program that requires the layer such as Exact Audio

Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working correctly.

 

Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following note:

Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of this file

without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs.

> The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself

> wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling

> started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped

> the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this

> fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the

> last five people in the universe that is still using Windows

> ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the

> serious stuff.

>

> I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will

> rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are:

> CDex

> Express Rip

> WinAmp

> dBpoweramp Music Converter

> Exact Audio Copy

>

> All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my

> CD-RW drive nor

> my CD-R drive.

>

> Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It

> just gave error message

> "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly!

> (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)"

>

> I started Googling and did not find anything specifically

> talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems

> with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed

> fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that

> <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or

> updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks

> running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP).

>

> My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1

> so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't

> help.

>

> Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME

> doing any "ripping"?

> What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent

> whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be

> corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo?

>

> Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas.

>

>

> Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need

> advice about ripping pants!"

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hi Mike.

 

Been a long while since our last exchange of posts so thanks

for the quick reply.

 

Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from

snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which

AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both

showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version

4.71.2..

 

If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will

have to try the

snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file

to the

folder containing the program that requires the layer such

as Exact Audio

Copy<snip

 

Since I don't use Nero I'll probably download a Trial and

"borrow" the DLL to stick in EAC.

 

I lurk around the group often to keep abreast of what's

happening. I enjoy that the old regulars still use this as

a meeting place. This is a good time to wish you and yours

the best in times to come.

 

Take care.

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing

optical media.

This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather

dated and no

longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi

layer (the

two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think,

missing from XP.

In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be

installed (free) if

you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I

think this is no

longer the case - it can be downloaded from

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.

The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for

those running

Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy

this file to the

folder containing the program that requires the layer such

as Exact Audio

Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working

correctly.

 

Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following

note:

Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of

this file

without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs.

> The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself

> wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling

> started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth,

wiped

> the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this

> fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the

> last five people in the universe that is still using

Windows

> ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the

> serious stuff.

>

> I have downloaded various programs that advertise they

will

> rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are:

> CDex

> Express Rip

> WinAmp

> dBpoweramp Music Converter

> Exact Audio Copy

>

> All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my

> CD-RW drive nor

> my CD-R drive.

>

> Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open.

It

> just gave error message

> "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly!

> (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)"

>

> I started Googling and did not find anything specifically

> talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems

> with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of

proposed

> fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood

that

> <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or

> updated. Most of the problems being reported were by

folks

> running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP).

>

> My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version

4.71.1

> so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that

didn't

> help.

>

> Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use

ME

> doing any "ripping"?

> What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent

> whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can

be

> corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo?

>

> Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas.

>

>

> Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need

> advice about ripping pants!"

[Guest O.J. Newman]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hello:

 

The Adaptec site says that updated software (v.4.71.2 vs. v.4.70) is

available at:

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_xp?productId=ASPI-4.70&dn=Windows+ASPI+Package .

 

Cheers,

O.J.

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be installed (free) if

> you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I think this is no

> longer the case - it can be downloaded from

> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.

[Guest O.J. Newman]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hello:

 

I am out of my field of experience with your question, but at:

http://aspi.radified.com/aspi_layer.htm , there was a recommendation:

 

"If you still have problems ripping or burning after installing the latest

Adaptec ASPI layer drivers, it's usually due to a problem with your burner

or CD-ROM drive. It might be a good idea to try ripping with a program such

as AudioCrusher, which doesn't require/use an ASPI layer."

 

To access AudioCrusher, see: http://www.sysdesk.de/ and click on the

"Downloads" button to see the latest version, or click on:

http://www.sysdesk.de/download/AudioCrusher14.exe .

 

HTH,

O.J.

 

 

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message

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>

> Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from

> snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which

> AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both

> showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version

> 4.71.2..

>

> If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will

> have to try the

> snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file

> to the

> folder containing the program that requires the layer such

> as Exact Audio

> Copy

[Guest O.J. Newman]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hello Again:

 

There is also some info at "Bart's page about ASPI" at:

http://www.nu2.nu/aspi/ .

 

However, the download link for the Nero WNASPI32.dll no longer works, and

just takes you to Nero's home page. It seems you'll have to download the

entire Nero 7 for Win 98/ME at:

http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero7-98me.php . Then you'll be able to

copy the WNASPI32.dll as you had planned.

 

Cheers again,

O.J.

 

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message

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>

> If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will

> have to try the

> Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file

> to the

> folder containing the program that requires the layer such

> as Exact Audio

> Copy

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Thank you for your research O.J.

 

I got the adaptec ver 4.71.2 earlier today.

 

 

 

 

"O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

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Hello:

 

The Adaptec site says that updated software (v.4.71.2 vs.

v.4.70) is

available at:

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_xp?productId=ASPI-4.70&dn=Windows+ASPI+Package .

 

Cheers,

O.J.

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be

installed (free) if

> you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I

think this is no

> longer the case - it can be downloaded from

>

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Google is gloriously grand in a great way. O.J. you

discovered the same bit of info that I found today. I'll

tell you I'm regretting that I ever thought I wanted to rip

CDs <VBG>. I appreciate your help.

 

Have a good weekend.

 

 

 

"O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

news:eHXjyY4PIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Hello Again:

 

There is also some info at "Bart's page about ASPI" at:

http://www.nu2.nu/aspi/ .

 

However, the download link for the Nero WNASPI32.dll no

longer works, and

just takes you to Nero's home page. It seems you'll have to

download the

entire Nero 7 for Win 98/ME at:

http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero7-98me.php . Then

you'll be able to

copy the WNASPI32.dll as you had planned.

 

Cheers again,

O.J.

 

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message

news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

> If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will

> have to try the

> Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file

> to the

> folder containing the program that requires the layer such

> as Exact Audio

> Copy

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Good tip O.J. I am surely going to look at AudioCrusher.

 

Thanko mucho.

 

 

 

"O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

news:%23GBE9R4PIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

Hello:

 

I am out of my field of experience with your question, but

at:

http://aspi.radified.com/aspi_layer.htm , there was a

recommendation:

 

"If you still have problems ripping or burning after

installing the latest

Adaptec ASPI layer drivers, it's usually due to a problem

with your burner

or CD-ROM drive. It might be a good idea to try ripping with

a program such

as AudioCrusher, which doesn't require/use an ASPI layer."

 

To access AudioCrusher, see: http://www.sysdesk.de/ and

click on the

"Downloads" button to see the latest version, or click on:

http://www.sysdesk.de/download/AudioCrusher14.exe .

 

HTH,

O.J.

 

 

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message

news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

> Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from

> snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which

> AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both

> showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version

> 4.71.2..

>

> If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will

> have to try the

> snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this

file

> to the

> folder containing the program that requires the layer such

> as Exact Audio

> Copy

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Well O.J. things are never easy. Looks like AudioCrusher

might be a small, simple program..........however..........I

downloaded and when it opened got error msg.

"No supported CD drives were found in your PC. Either they

are not properly set up or they are not yet supported by

AudioCrusher." I sent a bug report giving them the error

and the type of drives that I have.

 

Job says, "Some things ventured are a waste of tim.....no

that's doesn't sound right. What is that saying? ? ? ?

Oh yeah! Nothing ventured nothing gained."

 

 

 

 

"O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

news:%23GBE9R4PIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

Hello:

 

I am out of my field of experience with your question, but

at:

http://aspi.radified.com/aspi_layer.htm , there was a

recommendation:

 

"If you still have problems ripping or burning after

installing the latest

Adaptec ASPI layer drivers, it's usually due to a problem

with your burner

or CD-ROM drive. It might be a good idea to try ripping with

a program such

as AudioCrusher, which doesn't require/use an ASPI layer."

 

To access AudioCrusher, see: http://www.sysdesk.de/ and

click on the

"Downloads" button to see the latest version, or click on:

http://www.sysdesk.de/download/AudioCrusher14.exe .

 

HTH,

O.J.

 

 

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message

news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

> Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from

> snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which

> AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both

> showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version

> 4.71.2..

>

> If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will

> have to try the

> snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this

file

> to the

> folder containing the program that requires the layer such

> as Exact Audio

> Copy

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hello again Mike.

 

I downloaded Nero Ver. 6 Package 1 from

http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero6-update.php and

copied its WNASPI32.DLL into the EAC folder. Still when I

attempt to open EAC I get the error message "The ASPI

interface could not be initialized correctly! (Error E8h)

(No host adapters found)

 

Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not

compatible, at least on my system.

 

When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work

correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine?

 

P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237

M)

 

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing

optical media.

This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather

dated and no

longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi

layer (the

two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think,

missing from XP.

In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be

installed (free) if

you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I

think this is no

longer the case - it can be downloaded from

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.

The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for

those running

Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy

this file to the

folder containing the program that requires the layer such

as Exact Audio

Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working

correctly.

 

Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following

note:

Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of

this file

without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs.

> The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself

> wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling

> started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth,

wiped

> the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this

> fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the

> last five people in the universe that is still using

Windows

> ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the

> serious stuff.

>

> I have downloaded various programs that advertise they

will

> rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are:

> CDex

> Express Rip

> WinAmp

> dBpoweramp Music Converter

> Exact Audio Copy

>

> All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my

> CD-RW drive nor

> my CD-R drive.

>

> Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open.

It

> just gave error message

> "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly!

> (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)"

>

> I started Googling and did not find anything specifically

> talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems

> with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of

proposed

> fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood

that

> <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or

> updated. Most of the problems being reported were by

folks

> running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP).

>

> My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version

4.71.1

> so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that

didn't

> help.

>

> Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use

ME

> doing any "ripping"?

> What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent

> whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can

be

> corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo?

>

> Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas.

>

>

> Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need

> advice about ripping pants!"

[Guest O.J. Newman]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hello Job:

 

Sorry to have sent you on a wild goose chase :( .

 

O.J.

 

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message

news:%231rp005PIHA.5140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Well O.J. things are never easy. Looks like AudioCrusher

> might be a small, simple program..........however..........I

> downloaded and when it opened got error msg.

> "No supported CD drives were found in your PC. Either they

> are not properly set up or they are not yet supported by

> AudioCrusher." I sent a bug report giving them the error

> and the type of drives that I have.

>

> Job says, "Some things ventured are a waste of tim.....no

> that's doesn't sound right. What is that saying? ? ? ?

> Oh yeah! Nothing ventured nothing gained."

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

> Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not

> compatible, at least on my system.

 

On _your_ system maybe but the problem isn't intrinsic to Win Me. In fact

you are probably one of few having such problems in the seven plus years

since Win Me was released. There are lots of availalble applications

including even Windows own Windows Media Player - not that I would

recommend using WMP. Your problem would appear to be communicating with

your optical drive, details of which such as make and model I don't think

you have mentioned.

> When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work

> correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine?

 

I've used EAC without problem on PCs running Win 98SE, Win Me and XP.

> P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237

> M)

 

I have never needed to use an additional ASPI layer my Win Me PC - I

simply mentioned this as a possible fix for when EAC cannot see the

optical drives. It was on a PC running XP where EAC having worked without

problem for a number of years that suddenly couldn't see the drives where

I solved the problem by placing a copy of WNASPI32.DLL from Nero in the

EAC program folder. Ahead/Nero's file WNASPI32.DLL isn't tied to a

specific version of Nero. The version I am using is 2.0.1.74 dated

October 2004. EAC on other machines running XP has never needed the

addition of this file nor have my PCs running Win Me (only one of which I

still have).

 

As a check In the last few minutes I have installed and run EAC with no

problems on a clean install of Win Me. I didn't need to use/install

Adaptec's aspi layer not did I have to use a copy of WNASPI32.DLL from

Nero. It just worked, As a test I have installed and used without

problem a number of different versions of EAC ranging from v0.85b from

Sept 1999 to the most recent v0.99pb3 released August 2007.

 

Your problem doesn't lie with EAC but elsewhere, I'm guessing something

you have installed has made a registry change that is perhaps causing the

problem. As to what that change might be, I am unable to help.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> Hello again Mike.

>

> I downloaded Nero Ver. 6 Package 1 from

> http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero6-update.php and

> copied its WNASPI32.DLL into the EAC folder. Still when I

> attempt to open EAC I get the error message "The ASPI

> interface could not be initialized correctly! (Error E8h)

> (No host adapters found)

>

> Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not

> compatible, at least on my system.

>

> When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work

> correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine?

>

> P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237

> M)

>

>

>

> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

> news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing

> optical media.

> This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather

> dated and no

> longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi

> layer (the

> two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think,

> missing from XP.

> In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be

> installed (free) if

> you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I

> think this is no

> longer the case - it can be downloaded from

> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.

> The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for

> those running

> Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy

> this file to the

> folder containing the program that requires the layer such

> as Exact Audio

> Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working

> correctly.

>

> Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following

> note:

> Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of

> this file

> without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products.

>

>> I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs.

>> The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself

>> wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling

>> started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped

>> the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this

>> fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the

>> last five people in the universe that is still using Windows

>> ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the

>> serious stuff.

>>

>> I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will

>> rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are:

>> CDex

>> Express Rip

>> WinAmp

>> dBpoweramp Music Converter

>> Exact Audio Copy

>>

>> All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my

>> CD-RW drive nor

>> my CD-R drive.

>>

>> Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It

>> just gave error message

>> "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly!

>> (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)"

>>

>> I started Googling and did not find anything specifically

>> talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems

>> with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed

>> fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that

>> <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or

>> updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks

>> running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP).

>>

>> My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1

>> so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't

>> help.

>>

>> Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME

>> doing any "ripping"?

>> What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent

>> whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be

>> corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo?

>>

>> Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas.

>>

>>

>> Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need

>> advice about ripping pants!"

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

>Your problem would appear to be communicating with

>your optical drive, details of which such as make and model

I don't think

>you have mentioned.

 

You are correct that the "ripping programs" I listed in my

original post won't communicate with my drives. However, my

"audio player" programs and Easy CD Creator can communicate

with the drives. I don't understand this so I have done a

System Restore to take me back to before I started

installing "rippers" and before I started copying/pasting

WNASPI.DLLs. Who needs a "ripper" anyway <bg>.

 

Yes I did neglect to include the type of drives. They are

MITSUMI CR-48X5TE and

SAMSUNG SC-148C.

>I'm guessing something you have installed has made a

registry change that is >perhaps causing the problem. As to

what that change might be, I am unable to help.

 

Hee hee, now Mike I know you're mighty good but I don't

expect you to perform the impossible from across the pond.

But wait, if I mailed my tower to you then I'll bet you

could ........ nah, bad idea.

 

Thanks again for helping

 

 

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:%23Kbmqp9PIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not

> compatible, at least on my system.

 

On _your_ system maybe but the problem isn't intrinsic to

Win Me. In fact

you are probably one of few having such problems in the

seven plus years

since Win Me was released. There are lots of availalble

applications

including even Windows own Windows Media Player - not that I

would

recommend using WMP. Your problem would appear to be

communicating with

your optical drive, details of which such as make and model

I don't think

you have mentioned.

> When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work

> correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine?

 

I've used EAC without problem on PCs running Win 98SE, Win

Me and XP.

> P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237

> M)

 

I have never needed to use an additional ASPI layer my Win

Me PC - I

simply mentioned this as a possible fix for when EAC cannot

see the

optical drives. It was on a PC running XP where EAC having

worked without

problem for a number of years that suddenly couldn't see the

drives where

I solved the problem by placing a copy of WNASPI32.DLL from

Nero in the

EAC program folder. Ahead/Nero's file WNASPI32.DLL isn't

tied to a

specific version of Nero. The version I am using is

2.0.1.74 dated

October 2004. EAC on other machines running XP has never

needed the

addition of this file nor have my PCs running Win Me (only

one of which I

still have).

 

As a check In the last few minutes I have installed and run

EAC with no

problems on a clean install of Win Me. I didn't need to

use/install

Adaptec's aspi layer not did I have to use a copy of

WNASPI32.DLL from

Nero. It just worked, As a test I have installed and used

without

problem a number of different versions of EAC ranging from

v0.85b from

Sept 1999 to the most recent v0.99pb3 released August 2007.

 

Your problem doesn't lie with EAC but elsewhere, I'm

guessing something

you have installed has made a registry change that is

perhaps causing the

problem. As to what that change might be, I am unable to

help.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> Hello again Mike.

>

> I downloaded Nero Ver. 6 Package 1 from

> http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero6-update.php and

> copied its WNASPI32.DLL into the EAC folder. Still when I

> attempt to open EAC I get the error message "The ASPI

> interface could not be initialized correctly! (Error E8h)

> (No host adapters found)

>

> Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not

> compatible, at least on my system.

>

> When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work

> correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine?

>

> P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237

> M)

>

>

>

> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

> news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing

> optical media.

> This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather

> dated and no

> longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary

aspi

> layer (the

> two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think,

> missing from XP.

> In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be

> installed (free) if

> you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I

> think this is no

> longer the case - it can be downloaded from

>

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.

> The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is

for

> those running

> Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy

> this file to the

> folder containing the program that requires the layer such

> as Exact Audio

> Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working

> correctly.

>

> Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following

> note:

> Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of

> this file

> without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products.

>

>> I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs.

>> The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself

>> wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling

>> started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth,

wiped

>> the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this

>> fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the

>> last five people in the universe that is still using

Windows

>> ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the

>> serious stuff.

>>

>> I have downloaded various programs that advertise they

will

>> rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are:

>> CDex

>> Express Rip

>> WinAmp

>> dBpoweramp Music Converter

>> Exact Audio Copy

>>

>> All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my

>> CD-RW drive nor

>> my CD-R drive.

>>

>> Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open.

It

>> just gave error message

>> "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly!

>> (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)"

>>

>> I started Googling and did not find anything specifically

>> talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems

>> with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of

proposed

>> fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood

that

>> <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or

>> updated. Most of the problems being reported were by

folks

>> running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on

XP).

>>

>> My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version

4.71.1

>> so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that

didn't

>> help.

>>

>> Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use

ME

>> doing any "ripping"?

>> What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent

>> whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can

be

>> corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo?

>>

>> Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas.

>>

>>

>> Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need

>> advice about ripping pants!"

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Just sorry I wasn't able to help more since demonstrating that the problem

is with your setup rather than with Win Me per se is hardly satisfying for

either of us. Sorry about that. If I can come up with a fix I'll try and

remember to let you know but don't hold your breath.

 

Thought(s) for the day. You mention having Easy CD Creator installed. My

recent testing was done on Win Me systems, one real one virtual, that had

no CD/DVD burner, just CD and DVD ROMs, so have never had any burning

software installed. This prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due

to what is called an upper, or perhaps lower, filter installed by the

burning software. You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have

DirectCD installed as it is possible that this might also be running

interference.

 

Cheers,

--

Mike M

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

>> Your problem would appear to be communicating with

>> your optical drive, details of which such as make and model I don't

>> think you have mentioned.

>

> You are correct that the "ripping programs" I listed in my

> original post won't communicate with my drives. However, my

> "audio player" programs and Easy CD Creator can communicate

> with the drives. I don't understand this so I have done a

> System Restore to take me back to before I started

> installing "rippers" and before I started copying/pasting

> WNASPI.DLLs. Who needs a "ripper" anyway <bg>.

>

> Yes I did neglect to include the type of drives. They are

> MITSUMI CR-48X5TE and

> SAMSUNG SC-148C.

>

>> I'm guessing something you have installed has made a

> registry change that is >perhaps causing the problem. As to

> what that change might be, I am unable to help.

>

> Hee hee, now Mike I know you're mighty good but I don't

> expect you to perform the impossible from across the pond.

> But wait, if I mailed my tower to you then I'll bet you

> could ........ nah, bad idea.

>

> Thanks again for helping

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved

problems for me in the past and I know you will again.

>prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is

called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by the

burning software.

 

Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists?

>You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have

DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also

be running interference.

 

Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To

tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

 

 

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:u0BnLUCQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Just sorry I wasn't able to help more since demonstrating

that the problem

is with your setup rather than with Win Me per se is hardly

satisfying for

either of us. Sorry about that. If I can come up with a

fix I'll try and

remember to let you know but don't hold your breath.

 

Thought(s) for the day. You mention having Easy CD Creator

installed. My

recent testing was done on Win Me systems, one real one

virtual, that had

no CD/DVD burner, just CD and DVD ROMs, so have never had

any burning

software installed. This prompts me to wonder if the

problem might be due

to what is called an upper, or perhaps lower, filter

installed by the

burning software. You don't mention, and I never asked,

whether you have

DirectCD installed as it is possible that this might also be

running

interference.

 

Cheers,

--

Mike M

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

>> Your problem would appear to be communicating with

>> your optical drive, details of which such as make and

model I don't

>> think you have mentioned.

>

> You are correct that the "ripping programs" I listed in my

> original post won't communicate with my drives. However,

my

> "audio player" programs and Easy CD Creator can

communicate

> with the drives. I don't understand this so I have done a

> System Restore to take me back to before I started

> installing "rippers" and before I started copying/pasting

> WNASPI.DLLs. Who needs a "ripper" anyway <bg>.

>

> Yes I did neglect to include the type of drives. They are

> MITSUMI CR-48X5TE and

> SAMSUNG SC-148C.

>

>> I'm guessing something you have installed has made a

> registry change that is >perhaps causing the problem. As

to

> what that change might be, I am unable to help.

>

> Hee hee, now Mike I know you're mighty good but I don't

> expect you to perform the impossible from across the pond.

> But wait, if I mailed my tower to you then I'll bet you

> could ........ nah, bad idea.

>

> Thanks again for helping

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

> Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To

> tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

 

I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be

installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program (EasyCD or in

the case of InCD, Nero).

 

Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD installed could

well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a quick Google on

EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the following:

 

"I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec direct cd. now I

get this error:

The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly! (Error E8h)

(No host adapters found)"

 

which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire thread but I

found it at

http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html

 

Best of luck,

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved

> problems for me in the past and I know you will again.

>

>> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is

> called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by the

> burning software.

>

> Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists?

>

>> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have

> DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also

> be running interference.

>

> Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To

> tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Thanks a heap Mike. I am going now to check the link.

 

I really need to learn how to ask Google the right

questions.

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:%23RFOaGDQIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it.

To

> tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

 

I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be

installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program

(EasyCD or in

the case of InCD, Nero).

 

Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD

installed could

well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a

quick Google on

EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the

following:

 

"I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec

direct cd. now I

get this error:

The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly!

(Error E8h)

(No host adapters found)"

 

which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire

thread but I

found it at

http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html

 

Best of luck,

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved

> problems for me in the past and I know you will again.

>

>> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what

is

> called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by

the

> burning software.

>

> Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists?

>

>> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have

> DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also

> be running interference.

>

> Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it.

To

> tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

 

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message

news:OdjvIUDQIHA.2376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Thanks a heap Mike. I am going now to check the link.

>

> I really need to learn how to ask Google the right

> questions.

 

Just type them in exactly as you formulate them, i.e. according to what you

are asking.

Harry.

>

>

> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

> news:%23RFOaGDQIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it.

> To

> > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> > Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

>

> I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be

> installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program

> (EasyCD or in

> the case of InCD, Nero).

>

> Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD

> installed could

> well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a

> quick Google on

> EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the

> following:

>

> "I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec

> direct cd. now I

> get this error:

> The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly!

> (Error E8h)

> (No host adapters found)"

>

> which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire

> thread but I

> found it at

>

http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html

>

> Best of luck,

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

>

> Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

>

> > Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved

> > problems for me in the past and I know you will again.

> >

> >> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what

> is

> > called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by

> the

> > burning software.

> >

> > Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists?

> >

> >> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have

> > DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also

> > be running interference.

> >

> > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it.

> To

> > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> > Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

>

>

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Hi Mike,

 

I wanted to share this with you since you were so willing to

help. I just ripped some tunes from a CD on my ME system

using Exact Audio Copy.

 

These are the steps that made it possible. First I went and

read the instructions at

http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm . I then downloaded

the "older version of aspi_check" from

http://radified.com/Files/. (I had got a copy of

ASPICHK.exe from Adaptec yesterday but it didn't work well

in my opinion.)

 

I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results:

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056

WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536

APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723

ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A

 

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more

components

have been replaced with older versions of the

software.

 

I then downloaded and extracted ForceASPI17.zip shown in

Installation instructions at

http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm

 

Next I initiated the KILLASPI.BAT, then initiated the

INSTASPI.BAT, then rebooted.

 

Another run of aspi_chk.exe showed the following:

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 45056

WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600

APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603

ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(10210) 09/10/99 7743

 

ASPI is properly installed and is fully

operational.

One host adapter has been detected.

 

I downloaded and installed EAC from the EAC_095pb5.zip at

http://radified.com/Files/

and GLORYBE I can rip now.

 

 

Job says, "Feels so good if I still smoked I would have an

after "action" cigarette."

 

 

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:%23RFOaGDQIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it.

To

> tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

 

I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be

installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program

(EasyCD or in

the case of InCD, Nero).

 

Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD

installed could

well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a

quick Google on

EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the

following:

 

"I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec

direct cd. now I

get this error:

The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly!

(Error E8h)

(No host adapters found)"

 

which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire

thread but I

found it at

http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html

 

Best of luck,

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved

> problems for me in the past and I know you will again.

>

>> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what

is

> called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by

the

> burning software.

>

> Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists?

>

>> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have

> DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also

> be running interference.

>

> Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it.

To

> tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD

> Creator. Can I/should I remove it?

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

It's good to read that you've now managed to solve the problem and that a

pooched ASPI layer was the cause of your problems. I'm not sure what you

meant when you said the copy of aspichk from Adaptec didn't work

correctly - was the download perhaps incomplete or damaged?

> I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results:

> Component Version Date Size

> WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056

> WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536

> APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723

> ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A

 

WNASPI.32.DLL and APIX.VXD are not the original copies, running an older

version of aspichk (v1.0.0.6) on a Win Me system with EAC working as it

should and that has never installed an application that modifies the ASPI

layer such as EasyCD Creator or DirectCD, I see

 

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 36864

WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536

APIX.VXD 4.00(952) 05/08/100 29497

ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A

 

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components

have been replaced with older versions of the software.

 

I was unable to install Any of Adaptec's Aspi v4.60, 4.70 or 4.71.2 due to

there being no Adaptec adapter or an existing copy of Adaptec's aspi layer

so used an old copy of ForceASPI to install v4.60 of the Adaptec ASPI

layer after which I rebooted and then ran aspichk where I now saw

 

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 46056

WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600

APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603

ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743

 

ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational

One host adapter has been detected

 

Note that it is ESSENTIAL to reboot following updating the ASPI layer.

 

 

Reinstalled EAC v0.99pb3 and all proceeded as it should, my CD-ROM

recognised and CD ripped.

 

Having forced the installation of the Adaptec ASPI layer I then tried

installing Adaptec's last release of their aspi layer (v4.71-2), after

which I rebooted and ran aspichk which now reported the ASPI layer as

being broken!

 

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 4.712(0) 07/17/02 45056

WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600

APIX.VXD 4.712(0) 07/17/02 23115

ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743

 

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components

have been replaced with older versions of the software.

 

Just as with your example it appears that only WNASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD

were updated to the version being installed. However despite this

apparently broken ASPI layer EAC continued to work without problem. I now

uninstalled EAC and attempted to reinstall to see if the broken ASPI layer

would prevent the installation. It did not. I was still able to install

EAC and rip a CD. It would appear that having mixed Adaptec versions of

the four aspi files (as I did) works but not if the files are a mixture of

native Win Me and Adaptec files as was the case in your example.

 

So what I have learned? Not much other than that EAC can be installed and

work with both Win Me's native aspi layer and also Adaptec's layer if

forcibly installed using ForceASPI. I was even able to run EAC where the

Adaptec ASPI layer was broken, or rather had mixed components from

versions v4.60 and v4.71.2.

 

I should perhaps add that I had none of these problems when running Win Me

as my main system in 1999/2000 however that was an all scsi system that

included an Adaptec 2940UW scsi card. As a result I was always able to

install Adaptec's aspi layer without problem.

 

One final, OT, comment. I just wish I could get my second hand Nikon

LS2000 slide scanner to work correctly on my XP box. This is a scsi

scanner and the Nikon Scan software requires a working scsi layer and I've

never managed to get it to work and instead have to use Ed Hamrick's

VueScan software instead. I've been told the problem might be because

that box has a Tekram scsi card and that the Nikon Scan software might

work if I were to instead use an Adaptec scsi card. Time perhaps to dig

out that old 29040UW, either that or fork out for a slide scanner that

connects via USB 2.0.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> Hi Mike,

>

> I wanted to share this with you since you were so willing to

> help. I just ripped some tunes from a CD on my ME system

> using Exact Audio Copy.

>

> These are the steps that made it possible. First I went and

> read the instructions at

> http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm . I then downloaded

> the "older version of aspi_check" from

> http://radified.com/Files/. (I had got a copy of

> ASPICHK.exe from Adaptec yesterday but it didn't work well

> in my opinion.)

>

> I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results:

> Component Version Date Size

> WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056

> WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536

> APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723

> ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A

>

> ASPI is not properly installed. One or more

> components

> have been replaced with older versions of the

> software.

>

> I then downloaded and extracted ForceASPI17.zip shown in

> Installation instructions at

> http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm

>

> Next I initiated the KILLASPI.BAT, then initiated the

> INSTASPI.BAT, then rebooted.

>

> Another run of aspi_chk.exe showed the following:

> Component Version Date Size

> WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 45056

> WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600

> APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603

> ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(10210) 09/10/99 7743

>

> ASPI is properly installed and is fully

> operational.

> One host adapter has been detected.

>

> I downloaded and installed EAC from the EAC_095pb5.zip at

> http://radified.com/Files/

> and GLORYBE I can rip now.

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

>I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of

aspichk from Adaptec

>didn't work correctly

 

The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More

bothersome leading me to question validity was that the

comment ""ASPI is properly installed and is fully

operational." was very dim when I expected a darker, more

positive print.

 

Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me

back to my electronic technic'ing days.

>So what I have learned? Not much

 

If you can't make sense of it I for sure don't stand a

chance of understanding. I guess I'm happy that I can (at

least for now) use Rippers.

 

The only thing I can offer in regards to your slide scanner

problem is moral support. If anyone can resolve it I

believe you can.

 

Cheers to you guy.

 

 

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:e6WpkpLQIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

It's good to read that you've now managed to solve the

problem and that a

pooched ASPI layer was the cause of your problems. I'm not

sure what you

meant when you said the copy of aspichk from Adaptec didn't

work

correctly - was the download perhaps incomplete or damaged?

> I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results:

> Component Version Date Size

> WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056

> WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536

> APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723

> ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A

 

WNASPI.32.DLL and APIX.VXD are not the original copies,

running an older

version of aspichk (v1.0.0.6) on a Win Me system with EAC

working as it

should and that has never installed an application that

modifies the ASPI

layer such as EasyCD Creator or DirectCD, I see

 

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 36864

WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536

APIX.VXD 4.00(952) 05/08/100 29497

ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A

 

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components

have been replaced with older versions of the software.

 

I was unable to install Any of Adaptec's Aspi v4.60, 4.70 or

4.71.2 due to

there being no Adaptec adapter or an existing copy of

Adaptec's aspi layer

so used an old copy of ForceASPI to install v4.60 of the

Adaptec ASPI

layer after which I rebooted and then ran aspichk where I

now saw

 

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 46056

WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600

APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603

ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743

 

ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational

One host adapter has been detected

 

Note that it is ESSENTIAL to reboot following updating the

ASPI layer.

 

 

Reinstalled EAC v0.99pb3 and all proceeded as it should, my

CD-ROM

recognised and CD ripped.

 

Having forced the installation of the Adaptec ASPI layer I

then tried

installing Adaptec's last release of their aspi layer

(v4.71-2), after

which I rebooted and ran aspichk which now reported the ASPI

layer as

being broken!

 

Component Version Date Size

WNASPI32.DLL 4.712(0) 07/17/02 45056

WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600

APIX.VXD 4.712(0) 07/17/02 23115

ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743

 

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components

have been replaced with older versions of the software.

 

Just as with your example it appears that only WNASPI32.DLL

and APIX.VXD

were updated to the version being installed. However

despite this

apparently broken ASPI layer EAC continued to work without

problem. I now

uninstalled EAC and attempted to reinstall to see if the

broken ASPI layer

would prevent the installation. It did not. I was still

able to install

EAC and rip a CD. It would appear that having mixed Adaptec

versions of

the four aspi files (as I did) works but not if the files

are a mixture of

native Win Me and Adaptec files as was the case in your

example.

 

So what I have learned? Not much other than that EAC can be

installed and

work with both Win Me's native aspi layer and also Adaptec's

layer if

forcibly installed using ForceASPI. I was even able to run

EAC where the

Adaptec ASPI layer was broken, or rather had mixed

components from

versions v4.60 and v4.71.2.

 

I should perhaps add that I had none of these problems when

running Win Me

as my main system in 1999/2000 however that was an all scsi

system that

included an Adaptec 2940UW scsi card. As a result I was

always able to

install Adaptec's aspi layer without problem.

 

One final, OT, comment. I just wish I could get my second

hand Nikon

LS2000 slide scanner to work correctly on my XP box. This

is a scsi

scanner and the Nikon Scan software requires a working scsi

layer and I've

never managed to get it to work and instead have to use Ed

Hamrick's

VueScan software instead. I've been told the problem might

be because

that box has a Tekram scsi card and that the Nikon Scan

software might

work if I were to instead use an Adaptec scsi card. Time

perhaps to dig

out that old 29040UW, either that or fork out for a slide

scanner that

connects via USB 2.0.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> Hi Mike,

>

> I wanted to share this with you since you were so willing

to

> help. I just ripped some tunes from a CD on my ME system

> using Exact Audio Copy.

>

> These are the steps that made it possible. First I went

and

> read the instructions at

> http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm . I then

downloaded

> the "older version of aspi_check" from

> http://radified.com/Files/. (I had got a copy of

> ASPICHK.exe from Adaptec yesterday but it didn't work well

> in my opinion.)

>

> I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results:

> Component Version Date Size

> WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056

> WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536

> APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723

> ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A

>

> ASPI is not properly installed. One or more

> components

> have been replaced with older versions of the

> software.

>

> I then downloaded and extracted ForceASPI17.zip shown in

> Installation instructions at

> http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm

>

> Next I initiated the KILLASPI.BAT, then initiated the

> INSTASPI.BAT, then rebooted.

>

> Another run of aspi_chk.exe showed the following:

> Component Version Date Size

> WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 45056

> WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600

> APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603

> ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(10210) 09/10/99 7743

>

> ASPI is properly installed and is fully

> operational.

> One host adapter has been detected.

>

> I downloaded and installed EAC from the EAC_095pb5.zip at

> http://radified.com/Files/

> and GLORYBE I can rip now.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

>> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from

>> Adaptec didn't work correctly

>

> The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More

 

I think that you were using the more recent version of aspichk which is

why I decided to use the older version which is I suspect is also the

version you ended up using.

> Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me

> back to my electronic technic'ing days.

 

Being another "ole timer" I don't know any other way. It does mean that

some problems takes a lot longer to resolve (if ever) but at least I know

I will have tried most options in trying to find a solution.

 

Cheers,

 

Mike M

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

>> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from

>> Adaptec didn't work correctly

>

> The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More

> bothersome leading me to question validity was that the

> comment ""ASPI is properly installed and is fully

> operational." was very dim when I expected a darker, more

> positive print.

>

> Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me

> back to my electronic technic'ing days.

>

>> So what I have learned? Not much

>

> If you can't make sense of it I for sure don't stand a

> chance of understanding. I guess I'm happy that I can (at

> least for now) use Rippers.

>

> The only thing I can offer in regards to your slide scanner

> problem is moral support. If anyone can resolve it I

> believe you can.

>

> Cheers to you guy.

[Guest Job]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

How about an OT question Mike.

 

In the past posters have reported getting errors that a

particular .exe, .dll, etc. was not found. You responded

that the particular file was not part of the basic ME load.

How can I determine what files constitutes an ME load?

 

Take care.

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

news:%23XQK9LYQIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of

aspichk from

>> Adaptec didn't work correctly

>

> The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More

 

I think that you were using the more recent version of

aspichk which is

why I decided to use the older version which is I suspect is

also the

version you ended up using.

> Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes

me

> back to my electronic technic'ing days.

 

Being another "ole timer" I don't know any other way. It

does mean that

some problems takes a lot longer to resolve (if ever) but at

least I know

I will have tried most options in trying to find a solution.

 

Cheers,

 

Mike M

 

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

>> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of

aspichk from

>> Adaptec didn't work correctly

>

> The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More

> bothersome leading me to question validity was that the

> comment ""ASPI is properly installed and is fully

> operational." was very dim when I expected a darker, more

> positive print.

>

> Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes

me

> back to my electronic technic'ing days.

>

>> So what I have learned? Not much

>

> If you can't make sense of it I for sure don't stand a

> chance of understanding. I guess I'm happy that I can (at

> least for now) use Rippers.

>

> The only thing I can offer in regards to your slide

scanner

> problem is moral support. If anyone can resolve it I

> believe you can.

>

> Cheers to you guy.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems

 

Job <iam@best.slow> wrote:

> How about an OT question Mike.

 

No problem. It's quiet here and it's not as if anyone else is posting

anything interesting. :-)

> In the past posters have reported getting errors that a

> particular .exe, .dll, etc. was not found. You responded

> that the particular file was not part of the basic ME load.

> How can I determine what files constitutes an ME load?

>

> Take care.

 

Perhaps easiest done by checking whether the file is included in the Win

Me cab set which should be found at C:\Windows\Options\Cabs (if the

installation was from OEM media) or C:\Windows\Options\Install (if the

installation was from Microsoft media) or in the Win9x folder if you have

a Win Me install CD (not an OEM recovery disk). Some OEMs have been known

to place the folder containing the cab files in another partition

(incidentally I do this also) or to omit it entirely, the last often being

the cause for many users over the years having problem when installing usb

devices or wanting to create a Win Me boot floppy.

 

Once you have located the cabs run a search on the folder but rather than

looking for the file by placing its name in the "Search for files or

folders named" box put the file name you are looking for in the

"Containing text" box. This will then located the cab file containing the

required file which can then be extracted from the cab file by double

clicking on the cab file, selecting the required file and dragging it to

the desktop. Be careful however about trying to replace files in this way

as you may hit Win Me's system file protection mechanism and therefore

have to make the actual file replacement from DOS (after booting from a

floppy).

 

Note that are a few, a very few, special files that for some reason have

different names in the cab files from those used when in Win Me. One that

immediately comes to mind is marscore.dll which is found in win_12.cab but

as marspch.dll. There are other files built during the installation of

the operating system such as sfpdb.db which you won't find in the cab

files.

 

Note also that the file vmm32.vxd on a Win Me system is a composite file

created during the installation of Win Me that when built contains thirty

or more virtual device drivers (vxd files) and is not the file vmm32.vxd

in win_20.cab which is the container or template used when constructing

the real vmm32.vxd. Files built into vmm32.vxd when installing Win Me

include ifsmgr.vxd, shell.vxd and vcache.vxd.

 

I hope this helps.

--

Mike M