Guest Job Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs. The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the last five people in the universe that is still using Windows ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the serious stuff. I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are: CDex Express Rip WinAmp dBpoweramp Music Converter Exact Audio Copy All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my CD-RW drive nor my CD-R drive. Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It just gave error message "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly! (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" I started Googling and did not find anything specifically talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP). My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1 so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't help. Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME doing any "ripping"? What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo? Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas. Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need advice about ripping pants!"
Guest Mike M Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing optical media. This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather dated and no longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi layer (the two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think, missing from XP. In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be installed (free) if you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I think this is no longer the case - it can be downloaded from http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm. The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for those running Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file to the folder containing the program that requires the layer such as Exact Audio Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working correctly. Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following note: Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of this file without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs. > The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself > wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling > started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped > the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this > fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the > last five people in the universe that is still using Windows > ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the > serious stuff. > > I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will > rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are: > CDex > Express Rip > WinAmp > dBpoweramp Music Converter > Exact Audio Copy > > All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my > CD-RW drive nor > my CD-R drive. > > Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It > just gave error message > "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly! > (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" > > I started Googling and did not find anything specifically > talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems > with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed > fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that > <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or > updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks > running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP). > > My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1 > so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't > help. > > Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME > doing any "ripping"? > What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent > whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be > corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo? > > Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas. > > > Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need > advice about ripping pants!"
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hi Mike. Been a long while since our last exchange of posts so thanks for the quick reply. Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version 4.71.2.. If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will have to try the snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file to the folder containing the program that requires the layer such as Exact Audio Copy<snip Since I don't use Nero I'll probably download a Trial and "borrow" the DLL to stick in EAC. I lurk around the group often to keep abreast of what's happening. I enjoy that the old regulars still use this as a meeting place. This is a good time to wish you and yours the best in times to come. Take care. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing optical media. This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather dated and no longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi layer (the two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think, missing from XP. In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be installed (free) if you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I think this is no longer the case - it can be downloaded from http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm. The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for those running Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file to the folder containing the program that requires the layer such as Exact Audio Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working correctly. Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following note: Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of this file without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs. > The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself > wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling > started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped > the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this > fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the > last five people in the universe that is still using Windows > ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the > serious stuff. > > I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will > rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are: > CDex > Express Rip > WinAmp > dBpoweramp Music Converter > Exact Audio Copy > > All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my > CD-RW drive nor > my CD-R drive. > > Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It > just gave error message > "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly! > (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" > > I started Googling and did not find anything specifically > talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems > with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed > fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that > <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or > updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks > running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP). > > My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1 > so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't > help. > > Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME > doing any "ripping"? > What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent > whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be > corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo? > > Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas. > > > Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need > advice about ripping pants!"
Guest O.J. Newman Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hello: The Adaptec site says that updated software (v.4.71.2 vs. v.4.70) is available at: http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_xp?productId=ASPI-4.70&dn=Windows+ASPI+Package . Cheers, O.J. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be installed (free) if > you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I think this is no > longer the case - it can be downloaded from > http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.
Guest O.J. Newman Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hello: I am out of my field of experience with your question, but at: http://aspi.radified.com/aspi_layer.htm , there was a recommendation: "If you still have problems ripping or burning after installing the latest Adaptec ASPI layer drivers, it's usually due to a problem with your burner or CD-ROM drive. It might be a good idea to try ripping with a program such as AudioCrusher, which doesn't require/use an ASPI layer." To access AudioCrusher, see: http://www.sysdesk.de/ and click on the "Downloads" button to see the latest version, or click on: http://www.sysdesk.de/download/AudioCrusher14.exe . HTH, O.J. "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from > snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which > AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both > showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version > 4.71.2.. > > If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will > have to try the > snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file > to the > folder containing the program that requires the layer such > as Exact Audio > Copy
Guest O.J. Newman Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hello Again: There is also some info at "Bart's page about ASPI" at: http://www.nu2.nu/aspi/ . However, the download link for the Nero WNASPI32.dll no longer works, and just takes you to Nero's home page. It seems you'll have to download the entire Nero 7 for Win 98/ME at: http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero7-98me.php . Then you'll be able to copy the WNASPI32.dll as you had planned. Cheers again, O.J. "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will > have to try the > Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file > to the > folder containing the program that requires the layer such > as Exact Audio > Copy
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Thank you for your research O.J. I got the adaptec ver 4.71.2 earlier today. "O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message news:ejkCcK4PIHA.5016@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Hello: The Adaptec site says that updated software (v.4.71.2 vs. v.4.70) is available at: http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_xp?productId=ASPI-4.70&dn=Windows+ASPI+Package . Cheers, O.J. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be installed (free) if > you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I think this is no > longer the case - it can be downloaded from > http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm.
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Google is gloriously grand in a great way. O.J. you discovered the same bit of info that I found today. I'll tell you I'm regretting that I ever thought I wanted to rip CDs <VBG>. I appreciate your help. Have a good weekend. "O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message news:eHXjyY4PIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Hello Again: There is also some info at "Bart's page about ASPI" at: http://www.nu2.nu/aspi/ . However, the download link for the Nero WNASPI32.dll no longer works, and just takes you to Nero's home page. It seems you'll have to download the entire Nero 7 for Win 98/ME at: http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero7-98me.php . Then you'll be able to copy the WNASPI32.dll as you had planned. Cheers again, O.J. "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will > have to try the > Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file > to the > folder containing the program that requires the layer such > as Exact Audio > Copy
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Good tip O.J. I am surely going to look at AudioCrusher. Thanko mucho. "O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message news:%23GBE9R4PIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Hello: I am out of my field of experience with your question, but at: http://aspi.radified.com/aspi_layer.htm , there was a recommendation: "If you still have problems ripping or burning after installing the latest Adaptec ASPI layer drivers, it's usually due to a problem with your burner or CD-ROM drive. It might be a good idea to try ripping with a program such as AudioCrusher, which doesn't require/use an ASPI layer." To access AudioCrusher, see: http://www.sysdesk.de/ and click on the "Downloads" button to see the latest version, or click on: http://www.sysdesk.de/download/AudioCrusher14.exe . HTH, O.J. "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from > snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which > AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both > showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version > 4.71.2.. > > If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will > have to try the > snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file > to the > folder containing the program that requires the layer such > as Exact Audio > Copy
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Well O.J. things are never easy. Looks like AudioCrusher might be a small, simple program..........however..........I downloaded and when it opened got error msg. "No supported CD drives were found in your PC. Either they are not properly set up or they are not yet supported by AudioCrusher." I sent a bug report giving them the error and the type of drives that I have. Job says, "Some things ventured are a waste of tim.....no that's doesn't sound right. What is that saying? ? ? ? Oh yeah! Nothing ventured nothing gained." "O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message news:%23GBE9R4PIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Hello: I am out of my field of experience with your question, but at: http://aspi.radified.com/aspi_layer.htm , there was a recommendation: "If you still have problems ripping or burning after installing the latest Adaptec ASPI layer drivers, it's usually due to a problem with your burner or CD-ROM drive. It might be a good idea to try ripping with a program such as AudioCrusher, which doesn't require/use an ASPI layer." To access AudioCrusher, see: http://www.sysdesk.de/ and click on the "Downloads" button to see the latest version, or click on: http://www.sysdesk.de/download/AudioCrusher14.exe . HTH, O.J. "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message news:O%23i$W53PIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Earlier today I had downloaded aspi_471a2.exe from > snapfiles.com and then ran "install.bat x86" after which > AspiChk showed my APIX.VXD and WNASPI32.DLL were both > showing that Version 4.71.1 had been replaced with Version > 4.71.2.. > > If you had success with EAC on an ME machine then I will > have to try the > snip>Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file > to the > folder containing the program that requires the layer such > as Exact Audio > Copy
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hello again Mike. I downloaded Nero Ver. 6 Package 1 from http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero6-update.php and copied its WNASPI32.DLL into the EAC folder. Still when I attempt to open EAC I get the error message "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly! (Error E8h) (No host adapters found) Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not compatible, at least on my system. When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine? P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237 M) "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing optical media. This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather dated and no longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi layer (the two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think, missing from XP. In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be installed (free) if you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I think this is no longer the case - it can be downloaded from http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm. The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for those running Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy this file to the folder containing the program that requires the layer such as Exact Audio Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working correctly. Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following note: Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of this file without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs. > The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself > wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling > started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped > the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this > fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the > last five people in the universe that is still using Windows > ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the > serious stuff. > > I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will > rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are: > CDex > Express Rip > WinAmp > dBpoweramp Music Converter > Exact Audio Copy > > All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my > CD-RW drive nor > my CD-R drive. > > Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It > just gave error message > "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly! > (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" > > I started Googling and did not find anything specifically > talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems > with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed > fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that > <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or > updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks > running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP). > > My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1 > so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't > help. > > Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME > doing any "ripping"? > What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent > whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be > corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo? > > Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas. > > > Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need > advice about ripping pants!"
Guest O.J. Newman Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hello Job: Sorry to have sent you on a wild goose chase :( . O.J. "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message news:%231rp005PIHA.5140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Well O.J. things are never easy. Looks like AudioCrusher > might be a small, simple program..........however..........I > downloaded and when it opened got error msg. > "No supported CD drives were found in your PC. Either they > are not properly set up or they are not yet supported by > AudioCrusher." I sent a bug report giving them the error > and the type of drives that I have. > > Job says, "Some things ventured are a waste of tim.....no > that's doesn't sound right. What is that saying? ? ? ? > Oh yeah! Nothing ventured nothing gained." >
Guest Mike M Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems > Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not > compatible, at least on my system. On _your_ system maybe but the problem isn't intrinsic to Win Me. In fact you are probably one of few having such problems in the seven plus years since Win Me was released. There are lots of availalble applications including even Windows own Windows Media Player - not that I would recommend using WMP. Your problem would appear to be communicating with your optical drive, details of which such as make and model I don't think you have mentioned. > When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work > correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine? I've used EAC without problem on PCs running Win 98SE, Win Me and XP. > P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237 > M) I have never needed to use an additional ASPI layer my Win Me PC - I simply mentioned this as a possible fix for when EAC cannot see the optical drives. It was on a PC running XP where EAC having worked without problem for a number of years that suddenly couldn't see the drives where I solved the problem by placing a copy of WNASPI32.DLL from Nero in the EAC program folder. Ahead/Nero's file WNASPI32.DLL isn't tied to a specific version of Nero. The version I am using is 2.0.1.74 dated October 2004. EAC on other machines running XP has never needed the addition of this file nor have my PCs running Win Me (only one of which I still have). As a check In the last few minutes I have installed and run EAC with no problems on a clean install of Win Me. I didn't need to use/install Adaptec's aspi layer not did I have to use a copy of WNASPI32.DLL from Nero. It just worked, As a test I have installed and used without problem a number of different versions of EAC ranging from v0.85b from Sept 1999 to the most recent v0.99pb3 released August 2007. Your problem doesn't lie with EAC but elsewhere, I'm guessing something you have installed has made a registry change that is perhaps causing the problem. As to what that change might be, I am unable to help. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > Hello again Mike. > > I downloaded Nero Ver. 6 Package 1 from > http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero6-update.php and > copied its WNASPI32.DLL into the EAC folder. Still when I > attempt to open EAC I get the error message "The ASPI > interface could not be initialized correctly! (Error E8h) > (No host adapters found) > > Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not > compatible, at least on my system. > > When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work > correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine? > > P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237 > M) > > > > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message > news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing > optical media. > This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather > dated and no > longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi > layer (the > two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think, > missing from XP. > In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be > installed (free) if > you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I > think this is no > longer the case - it can be downloaded from > http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm. > The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for > those running > Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy > this file to the > folder containing the program that requires the layer such > as Exact Audio > Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working > correctly. > > Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following > note: > Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of > this file > without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products. > >> I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs. >> The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself >> wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling >> started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped >> the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this >> fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the >> last five people in the universe that is still using Windows >> ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the >> serious stuff. >> >> I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will >> rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are: >> CDex >> Express Rip >> WinAmp >> dBpoweramp Music Converter >> Exact Audio Copy >> >> All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my >> CD-RW drive nor >> my CD-R drive. >> >> Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It >> just gave error message >> "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly! >> (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" >> >> I started Googling and did not find anything specifically >> talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems >> with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed >> fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that >> <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or >> updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks >> running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP). >> >> My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1 >> so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't >> help. >> >> Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME >> doing any "ripping"? >> What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent >> whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be >> corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo? >> >> Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas. >> >> >> Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need >> advice about ripping pants!"
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems >Your problem would appear to be communicating with >your optical drive, details of which such as make and model I don't think >you have mentioned. You are correct that the "ripping programs" I listed in my original post won't communicate with my drives. However, my "audio player" programs and Easy CD Creator can communicate with the drives. I don't understand this so I have done a System Restore to take me back to before I started installing "rippers" and before I started copying/pasting WNASPI.DLLs. Who needs a "ripper" anyway <bg>. Yes I did neglect to include the type of drives. They are MITSUMI CR-48X5TE and SAMSUNG SC-148C. >I'm guessing something you have installed has made a registry change that is >perhaps causing the problem. As to what that change might be, I am unable to help. Hee hee, now Mike I know you're mighty good but I don't expect you to perform the impossible from across the pond. But wait, if I mailed my tower to you then I'll bet you could ........ nah, bad idea. Thanks again for helping "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:%23Kbmqp9PIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not > compatible, at least on my system. On _your_ system maybe but the problem isn't intrinsic to Win Me. In fact you are probably one of few having such problems in the seven plus years since Win Me was released. There are lots of availalble applications including even Windows own Windows Media Player - not that I would recommend using WMP. Your problem would appear to be communicating with your optical drive, details of which such as make and model I don't think you have mentioned. > When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work > correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine? I've used EAC without problem on PCs running Win 98SE, Win Me and XP. > P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237 > M) I have never needed to use an additional ASPI layer my Win Me PC - I simply mentioned this as a possible fix for when EAC cannot see the optical drives. It was on a PC running XP where EAC having worked without problem for a number of years that suddenly couldn't see the drives where I solved the problem by placing a copy of WNASPI32.DLL from Nero in the EAC program folder. Ahead/Nero's file WNASPI32.DLL isn't tied to a specific version of Nero. The version I am using is 2.0.1.74 dated October 2004. EAC on other machines running XP has never needed the addition of this file nor have my PCs running Win Me (only one of which I still have). As a check In the last few minutes I have installed and run EAC with no problems on a clean install of Win Me. I didn't need to use/install Adaptec's aspi layer not did I have to use a copy of WNASPI32.DLL from Nero. It just worked, As a test I have installed and used without problem a number of different versions of EAC ranging from v0.85b from Sept 1999 to the most recent v0.99pb3 released August 2007. Your problem doesn't lie with EAC but elsewhere, I'm guessing something you have installed has made a registry change that is perhaps causing the problem. As to what that change might be, I am unable to help. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > Hello again Mike. > > I downloaded Nero Ver. 6 Package 1 from > http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero6-update.php and > copied its WNASPI32.DLL into the EAC folder. Still when I > attempt to open EAC I get the error message "The ASPI > interface could not be initialized correctly! (Error E8h) > (No host adapters found) > > Looks like Windows ME and "Ripping" programs are just not > compatible, at least on my system. > > When you said that was what you did to get EAC to work > correctly was that on your ME machine or your XP machine? > > P.S. I downloaded Nero Ver 6 (34 M) instead of Ver 7 (237 > M) > > > > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message > news:ezzUIK3PIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Lack of the ASPI layer can cause problems when accessing > optical media. > This is an interface designed by Adaptec and now rather > dated and no > longer really supported. Win Me contains a rudimentary aspi > layer (the > two files apix.vxd and wnaspi32.dll) and it is, I think, > missing from XP. > In the past the full/proper ASPI layer could only be > installed (free) if > you had an item of Adaptec hardware on the system but I > think this is no > longer the case - it can be downloaded from > http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_v470_exe.htm. > The more usual method today of creating an aspi layer is for > those running > Nero to use Nero's ASPI layer (WNASPI32.DLL) and to copy > this file to the > folder containing the program that requires the layer such > as Exact Audio > Copy. That is what I have done here to get EAC working > correctly. > > Ah! I see that the Adaptec site includes the following > note: > Notes: At this time Adaptec is allowing the download of > this file > without regard to ownership of retail Adaptec Products. > >> I've been trying to find a way/software to rip some CDs. >> The only thing I've accomplished so far is to get myself >> wrapped around the axle so tightly that a rabid feeling >> started coming over me. So.....I unclenched my teeth, wiped >> the foam from my mouth and decided to come dip into this >> fountain of knowledge. And yes, I'm probably one of the >> last five people in the universe that is still using Windows >> ME (and proud of it podner). Enough frivolity, on to the >> serious stuff. >> >> I have downloaded various programs that advertise they will >> rip CDs and will work with Windows ME. The programs are: >> CDex >> Express Rip >> WinAmp >> dBpoweramp Music Converter >> Exact Audio Copy >> >> All of them except Exact Audio Copy did not show/list my >> CD-RW drive nor >> my CD-R drive. >> >> Exact Audio Copy although installed would not even open. It >> just gave error message >> "The ASPI interface could not be initialized correctly! >> (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" >> >> I started Googling and did not find anything specifically >> talking about ME yet there are quite a number of problems >> with "Rippers" failing to detect drives. A lot of proposed >> fixes talked about ASPI layers (yeah, like I understood that >> <bg>) and that WNASPI32.DLL needed to be installed or >> updated. Most of the problems being reported were by folks >> running XP (not unexpected as most of the world is on XP). >> >> My WNASPI32.DLL in Windows\System folder was Version 4.71.1 >> so I downloaded and installed Version 4.71.2 but that didn't >> help. >> >> Now I'm done with my whimpering. Are any of you who use ME >> doing any "ripping"? >> What 'Ripper" do you use? After reading my incoherent >> whining, any scientific guesses as to how my problems can be >> corrected so I can become a rip-roarin' buckaroo? >> >> Thanks and Merry 9 Days Til Christmas. >> >> >> Job says, "Hmmm......I gain more weight and I won't need >> advice about ripping pants!"
Guest Mike M Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Just sorry I wasn't able to help more since demonstrating that the problem is with your setup rather than with Win Me per se is hardly satisfying for either of us. Sorry about that. If I can come up with a fix I'll try and remember to let you know but don't hold your breath. Thought(s) for the day. You mention having Easy CD Creator installed. My recent testing was done on Win Me systems, one real one virtual, that had no CD/DVD burner, just CD and DVD ROMs, so have never had any burning software installed. This prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is called an upper, or perhaps lower, filter installed by the burning software. You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have DirectCD installed as it is possible that this might also be running interference. Cheers, -- Mike M Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: >> Your problem would appear to be communicating with >> your optical drive, details of which such as make and model I don't >> think you have mentioned. > > You are correct that the "ripping programs" I listed in my > original post won't communicate with my drives. However, my > "audio player" programs and Easy CD Creator can communicate > with the drives. I don't understand this so I have done a > System Restore to take me back to before I started > installing "rippers" and before I started copying/pasting > WNASPI.DLLs. Who needs a "ripper" anyway <bg>. > > Yes I did neglect to include the type of drives. They are > MITSUMI CR-48X5TE and > SAMSUNG SC-148C. > >> I'm guessing something you have installed has made a > registry change that is >perhaps causing the problem. As to > what that change might be, I am unable to help. > > Hee hee, now Mike I know you're mighty good but I don't > expect you to perform the impossible from across the pond. > But wait, if I mailed my tower to you then I'll bet you > could ........ nah, bad idea. > > Thanks again for helping
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved problems for me in the past and I know you will again. >prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by the burning software. Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists? >You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also be running interference. Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD Creator. Can I/should I remove it? "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:u0BnLUCQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Just sorry I wasn't able to help more since demonstrating that the problem is with your setup rather than with Win Me per se is hardly satisfying for either of us. Sorry about that. If I can come up with a fix I'll try and remember to let you know but don't hold your breath. Thought(s) for the day. You mention having Easy CD Creator installed. My recent testing was done on Win Me systems, one real one virtual, that had no CD/DVD burner, just CD and DVD ROMs, so have never had any burning software installed. This prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is called an upper, or perhaps lower, filter installed by the burning software. You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have DirectCD installed as it is possible that this might also be running interference. Cheers, -- Mike M Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: >> Your problem would appear to be communicating with >> your optical drive, details of which such as make and model I don't >> think you have mentioned. > > You are correct that the "ripping programs" I listed in my > original post won't communicate with my drives. However, my > "audio player" programs and Easy CD Creator can communicate > with the drives. I don't understand this so I have done a > System Restore to take me back to before I started > installing "rippers" and before I started copying/pasting > WNASPI.DLLs. Who needs a "ripper" anyway <bg>. > > Yes I did neglect to include the type of drives. They are > MITSUMI CR-48X5TE and > SAMSUNG SC-148C. > >> I'm guessing something you have installed has made a > registry change that is >perhaps causing the problem. As to > what that change might be, I am unable to help. > > Hee hee, now Mike I know you're mighty good but I don't > expect you to perform the impossible from across the pond. > But wait, if I mailed my tower to you then I'll bet you > could ........ nah, bad idea. > > Thanks again for helping
Guest Mike M Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > Creator. Can I/should I remove it? I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program (EasyCD or in the case of InCD, Nero). Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD installed could well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a quick Google on EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the following: "I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec direct cd. now I get this error: The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly! (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire thread but I found it at http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html Best of luck, -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved > problems for me in the past and I know you will again. > >> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is > called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by the > burning software. > > Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists? > >> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have > DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also > be running interference. > > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > Creator. Can I/should I remove it?
Guest Job Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Thanks a heap Mike. I am going now to check the link. I really need to learn how to ask Google the right questions. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:%23RFOaGDQIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > Creator. Can I/should I remove it? I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program (EasyCD or in the case of InCD, Nero). Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD installed could well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a quick Google on EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the following: "I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec direct cd. now I get this error: The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly! (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire thread but I found it at http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html Best of luck, -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved > problems for me in the past and I know you will again. > >> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is > called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by the > burning software. > > Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists? > >> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have > DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also > be running interference. > > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > Creator. Can I/should I remove it?
Guest webster72n Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message news:OdjvIUDQIHA.2376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Thanks a heap Mike. I am going now to check the link. > > I really need to learn how to ask Google the right > questions. Just type them in exactly as you formulate them, i.e. according to what you are asking. Harry. > > > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message > news:%23RFOaGDQIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. > To > > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > > Creator. Can I/should I remove it? > > I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be > installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program > (EasyCD or in > the case of InCD, Nero). > > Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD > installed could > well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a > quick Google on > EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the > following: > > "I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec > direct cd. now I > get this error: > The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly! > (Error E8h) > (No host adapters found)" > > which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire > thread but I > found it at > http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html > > Best of luck, > -- > Mike Maltby > mike.maltby@gmail.com > > > > Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > > > Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved > > problems for me in the past and I know you will again. > > > >> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what > is > > called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by > the > > burning software. > > > > Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists? > > > >> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have > > DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also > > be running interference. > > > > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. > To > > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > > Creator. Can I/should I remove it? > >
Guest Job Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Hi Mike, I wanted to share this with you since you were so willing to help. I just ripped some tunes from a CD on my ME system using Exact Audio Copy. These are the steps that made it possible. First I went and read the instructions at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm . I then downloaded the "older version of aspi_check" from http://radified.com/Files/. (I had got a copy of ASPICHK.exe from Adaptec yesterday but it didn't work well in my opinion.) I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results: Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056 WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536 APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723 ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been replaced with older versions of the software. I then downloaded and extracted ForceASPI17.zip shown in Installation instructions at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Next I initiated the KILLASPI.BAT, then initiated the INSTASPI.BAT, then rebooted. Another run of aspi_chk.exe showed the following: Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 45056 WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600 APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603 ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(10210) 09/10/99 7743 ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational. One host adapter has been detected. I downloaded and installed EAC from the EAC_095pb5.zip at http://radified.com/Files/ and GLORYBE I can rip now. Job says, "Feels so good if I still smoked I would have an after "action" cigarette." "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:%23RFOaGDQIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > Creator. Can I/should I remove it? I'm pretty certain that DirectCD, like Ahead's InCD, can be installed/uninstalled independently of its parent program (EasyCD or in the case of InCD, Nero). Sadly I've no way of checking but think that having EasyCD installed could well be a factor in your problem. OK, I've just done a quick Google on EAC and DirectCD and found quite a few hits including the following: "I had EAC running correctly, until I installed adaptec direct cd. now I get this error: The ASPI interface could not be initialised correctly! (Error E8h) (No host adapters found)" which sounds horribly familiar! I haven't read the entire thread but I found it at http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/12902-solution-aspi-problems-eac-no-cd-found-problem-5.html Best of luck, -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > Hey Mike you don't need to apologize, you have solved > problems for me in the past and I know you will again. > >> prompts me to wonder if the problem might be due to what is > called an upper, or >perhaps lower, filter installed by the > burning software. > > Is there a way for me to determine if filter exists? > >> You don't mention, and I never asked, whether you have > DirectCD installed as it is >possible that this might also > be running interference. > > Yes, DirectCD is installed although I've never used it. To > tell the truth I thought it was an integral part of EasyCD > Creator. Can I/should I remove it?
Guest Mike M Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems It's good to read that you've now managed to solve the problem and that a pooched ASPI layer was the cause of your problems. I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from Adaptec didn't work correctly - was the download perhaps incomplete or damaged? > I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results: > Component Version Date Size > WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056 > WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536 > APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723 > ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A WNASPI.32.DLL and APIX.VXD are not the original copies, running an older version of aspichk (v1.0.0.6) on a Win Me system with EAC working as it should and that has never installed an application that modifies the ASPI layer such as EasyCD Creator or DirectCD, I see Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 36864 WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536 APIX.VXD 4.00(952) 05/08/100 29497 ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been replaced with older versions of the software. I was unable to install Any of Adaptec's Aspi v4.60, 4.70 or 4.71.2 due to there being no Adaptec adapter or an existing copy of Adaptec's aspi layer so used an old copy of ForceASPI to install v4.60 of the Adaptec ASPI layer after which I rebooted and then ran aspichk where I now saw Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 46056 WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600 APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603 ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743 ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational One host adapter has been detected Note that it is ESSENTIAL to reboot following updating the ASPI layer. Reinstalled EAC v0.99pb3 and all proceeded as it should, my CD-ROM recognised and CD ripped. Having forced the installation of the Adaptec ASPI layer I then tried installing Adaptec's last release of their aspi layer (v4.71-2), after which I rebooted and ran aspichk which now reported the ASPI layer as being broken! Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 4.712(0) 07/17/02 45056 WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600 APIX.VXD 4.712(0) 07/17/02 23115 ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743 ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been replaced with older versions of the software. Just as with your example it appears that only WNASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD were updated to the version being installed. However despite this apparently broken ASPI layer EAC continued to work without problem. I now uninstalled EAC and attempted to reinstall to see if the broken ASPI layer would prevent the installation. It did not. I was still able to install EAC and rip a CD. It would appear that having mixed Adaptec versions of the four aspi files (as I did) works but not if the files are a mixture of native Win Me and Adaptec files as was the case in your example. So what I have learned? Not much other than that EAC can be installed and work with both Win Me's native aspi layer and also Adaptec's layer if forcibly installed using ForceASPI. I was even able to run EAC where the Adaptec ASPI layer was broken, or rather had mixed components from versions v4.60 and v4.71.2. I should perhaps add that I had none of these problems when running Win Me as my main system in 1999/2000 however that was an all scsi system that included an Adaptec 2940UW scsi card. As a result I was always able to install Adaptec's aspi layer without problem. One final, OT, comment. I just wish I could get my second hand Nikon LS2000 slide scanner to work correctly on my XP box. This is a scsi scanner and the Nikon Scan software requires a working scsi layer and I've never managed to get it to work and instead have to use Ed Hamrick's VueScan software instead. I've been told the problem might be because that box has a Tekram scsi card and that the Nikon Scan software might work if I were to instead use an Adaptec scsi card. Time perhaps to dig out that old 29040UW, either that or fork out for a slide scanner that connects via USB 2.0. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I wanted to share this with you since you were so willing to > help. I just ripped some tunes from a CD on my ME system > using Exact Audio Copy. > > These are the steps that made it possible. First I went and > read the instructions at > http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm . I then downloaded > the "older version of aspi_check" from > http://radified.com/Files/. (I had got a copy of > ASPICHK.exe from Adaptec yesterday but it didn't work well > in my opinion.) > > I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results: > Component Version Date Size > WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056 > WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536 > APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723 > ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A > > ASPI is not properly installed. One or more > components > have been replaced with older versions of the > software. > > I then downloaded and extracted ForceASPI17.zip shown in > Installation instructions at > http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm > > Next I initiated the KILLASPI.BAT, then initiated the > INSTASPI.BAT, then rebooted. > > Another run of aspi_chk.exe showed the following: > Component Version Date Size > WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 45056 > WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600 > APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603 > ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(10210) 09/10/99 7743 > > ASPI is properly installed and is fully > operational. > One host adapter has been detected. > > I downloaded and installed EAC from the EAC_095pb5.zip at > http://radified.com/Files/ > and GLORYBE I can rip now.
Guest Job Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems >I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from Adaptec >didn't work correctly The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More bothersome leading me to question validity was that the comment ""ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational." was very dim when I expected a darker, more positive print. Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me back to my electronic technic'ing days. >So what I have learned? Not much If you can't make sense of it I for sure don't stand a chance of understanding. I guess I'm happy that I can (at least for now) use Rippers. The only thing I can offer in regards to your slide scanner problem is moral support. If anyone can resolve it I believe you can. Cheers to you guy. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:e6WpkpLQIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... It's good to read that you've now managed to solve the problem and that a pooched ASPI layer was the cause of your problems. I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from Adaptec didn't work correctly - was the download perhaps incomplete or damaged? > I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results: > Component Version Date Size > WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056 > WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536 > APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723 > ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A WNASPI.32.DLL and APIX.VXD are not the original copies, running an older version of aspichk (v1.0.0.6) on a Win Me system with EAC working as it should and that has never installed an application that modifies the ASPI layer such as EasyCD Creator or DirectCD, I see Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 36864 WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536 APIX.VXD 4.00(952) 05/08/100 29497 ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been replaced with older versions of the software. I was unable to install Any of Adaptec's Aspi v4.60, 4.70 or 4.71.2 due to there being no Adaptec adapter or an existing copy of Adaptec's aspi layer so used an old copy of ForceASPI to install v4.60 of the Adaptec ASPI layer after which I rebooted and then ran aspichk where I now saw Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 46056 WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600 APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603 ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743 ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational One host adapter has been detected Note that it is ESSENTIAL to reboot following updating the ASPI layer. Reinstalled EAC v0.99pb3 and all proceeded as it should, my CD-ROM recognised and CD ripped. Having forced the installation of the Adaptec ASPI layer I then tried installing Adaptec's last release of their aspi layer (v4.71-2), after which I rebooted and ran aspichk which now reported the ASPI layer as being broken! Component Version Date Size WNASPI32.DLL 4.712(0) 07/17/02 45056 WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600 APIX.VXD 4.712(0) 07/17/02 23115 ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 7743 ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been replaced with older versions of the software. Just as with your example it appears that only WNASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD were updated to the version being installed. However despite this apparently broken ASPI layer EAC continued to work without problem. I now uninstalled EAC and attempted to reinstall to see if the broken ASPI layer would prevent the installation. It did not. I was still able to install EAC and rip a CD. It would appear that having mixed Adaptec versions of the four aspi files (as I did) works but not if the files are a mixture of native Win Me and Adaptec files as was the case in your example. So what I have learned? Not much other than that EAC can be installed and work with both Win Me's native aspi layer and also Adaptec's layer if forcibly installed using ForceASPI. I was even able to run EAC where the Adaptec ASPI layer was broken, or rather had mixed components from versions v4.60 and v4.71.2. I should perhaps add that I had none of these problems when running Win Me as my main system in 1999/2000 however that was an all scsi system that included an Adaptec 2940UW scsi card. As a result I was always able to install Adaptec's aspi layer without problem. One final, OT, comment. I just wish I could get my second hand Nikon LS2000 slide scanner to work correctly on my XP box. This is a scsi scanner and the Nikon Scan software requires a working scsi layer and I've never managed to get it to work and instead have to use Ed Hamrick's VueScan software instead. I've been told the problem might be because that box has a Tekram scsi card and that the Nikon Scan software might work if I were to instead use an Adaptec scsi card. Time perhaps to dig out that old 29040UW, either that or fork out for a slide scanner that connects via USB 2.0. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I wanted to share this with you since you were so willing to > help. I just ripped some tunes from a CD on my ME system > using Exact Audio Copy. > > These are the steps that made it possible. First I went and > read the instructions at > http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm . I then downloaded > the "older version of aspi_check" from > http://radified.com/Files/. (I had got a copy of > ASPICHK.exe from Adaptec yesterday but it didn't work well > in my opinion.) > > I ran the aspi_chk.exe and it gave the following results: > Component Version Date Size > WNASPI32.DLL 4.711(0) 09/30/3 45056 > WINASPI.DLL 1.00(65) 05/08/100 3536 > APIX.VXD 4.711(0) 09/30/3 27723 > ASPIENUM.VXD N/A N/A N/A > > ASPI is not properly installed. One or more > components > have been replaced with older versions of the > software. > > I then downloaded and extracted ForceASPI17.zip shown in > Installation instructions at > http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm > > Next I initiated the KILLASPI.BAT, then initiated the > INSTASPI.BAT, then rebooted. > > Another run of aspi_chk.exe showed the following: > Component Version Date Size > WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 45056 > WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600 > APIX.VXD 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 22603 > ASPIENUM.VXD 4.60(10210) 09/10/99 7743 > > ASPI is properly installed and is fully > operational. > One host adapter has been detected. > > I downloaded and installed EAC from the EAC_095pb5.zip at > http://radified.com/Files/ > and GLORYBE I can rip now.
Guest Mike M Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems >> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from >> Adaptec didn't work correctly > > The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More I think that you were using the more recent version of aspichk which is why I decided to use the older version which is I suspect is also the version you ended up using. > Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me > back to my electronic technic'ing days. Being another "ole timer" I don't know any other way. It does mean that some problems takes a lot longer to resolve (if ever) but at least I know I will have tried most options in trying to find a solution. Cheers, Mike M Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: >> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from >> Adaptec didn't work correctly > > The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More > bothersome leading me to question validity was that the > comment ""ASPI is properly installed and is fully > operational." was very dim when I expected a darker, more > positive print. > > Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me > back to my electronic technic'ing days. > >> So what I have learned? Not much > > If you can't make sense of it I for sure don't stand a > chance of understanding. I guess I'm happy that I can (at > least for now) use Rippers. > > The only thing I can offer in regards to your slide scanner > problem is moral support. If anyone can resolve it I > believe you can. > > Cheers to you guy.
Guest Job Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems How about an OT question Mike. In the past posters have reported getting errors that a particular .exe, .dll, etc. was not found. You responded that the particular file was not part of the basic ME load. How can I determine what files constitutes an ME load? Take care. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:%23XQK9LYQIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from >> Adaptec didn't work correctly > > The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More I think that you were using the more recent version of aspichk which is why I decided to use the older version which is I suspect is also the version you ended up using. > Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me > back to my electronic technic'ing days. Being another "ole timer" I don't know any other way. It does mean that some problems takes a lot longer to resolve (if ever) but at least I know I will have tried most options in trying to find a solution. Cheers, Mike M Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: >> I'm not sure what you meant when you said the copy of aspichk from >> Adaptec didn't work correctly > > The results showed only ASPI32.DLL and APIX.VXD. More > bothersome leading me to question validity was that the > comment ""ASPI is properly installed and is fully > operational." was very dim when I expected a darker, more > positive print. > > Mike I really like your method of troubleshooting, takes me > back to my electronic technic'ing days. > >> So what I have learned? Not much > > If you can't make sense of it I for sure don't stand a > chance of understanding. I guess I'm happy that I can (at > least for now) use Rippers. > > The only thing I can offer in regards to your slide scanner > problem is moral support. If anyone can resolve it I > believe you can. > > Cheers to you guy.
Guest Mike M Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Re: Ripping Audio CD Problems Job <iam@best.slow> wrote: > How about an OT question Mike. No problem. It's quiet here and it's not as if anyone else is posting anything interesting. :-) > In the past posters have reported getting errors that a > particular .exe, .dll, etc. was not found. You responded > that the particular file was not part of the basic ME load. > How can I determine what files constitutes an ME load? > > Take care. Perhaps easiest done by checking whether the file is included in the Win Me cab set which should be found at C:\Windows\Options\Cabs (if the installation was from OEM media) or C:\Windows\Options\Install (if the installation was from Microsoft media) or in the Win9x folder if you have a Win Me install CD (not an OEM recovery disk). Some OEMs have been known to place the folder containing the cab files in another partition (incidentally I do this also) or to omit it entirely, the last often being the cause for many users over the years having problem when installing usb devices or wanting to create a Win Me boot floppy. Once you have located the cabs run a search on the folder but rather than looking for the file by placing its name in the "Search for files or folders named" box put the file name you are looking for in the "Containing text" box. This will then located the cab file containing the required file which can then be extracted from the cab file by double clicking on the cab file, selecting the required file and dragging it to the desktop. Be careful however about trying to replace files in this way as you may hit Win Me's system file protection mechanism and therefore have to make the actual file replacement from DOS (after booting from a floppy). Note that are a few, a very few, special files that for some reason have different names in the cab files from those used when in Win Me. One that immediately comes to mind is marscore.dll which is found in win_12.cab but as marspch.dll. There are other files built during the installation of the operating system such as sfpdb.db which you won't find in the cab files. Note also that the file vmm32.vxd on a Win Me system is a composite file created during the installation of Win Me that when built contains thirty or more virtual device drivers (vxd files) and is not the file vmm32.vxd in win_20.cab which is the container or template used when constructing the real vmm32.vxd. Files built into vmm32.vxd when installing Win Me include ifsmgr.vxd, shell.vxd and vcache.vxd. I hope this helps. -- Mike M
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