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Guest bill allemann
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I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

 

It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than domain

server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing PC's were in

a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing the local

network.

 

I'm dealing with a small LAN with a few PC's, one of which is XP Home, and

it doesn't appear that I can make it a client computer on the new server.

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Guest Danny Sanders
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Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

>I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

>server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

 

Yes, don't run dcpromo. The initial install is a standalone/workgroup

server.

> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing PC's

> were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing the

> local network.

 

If this was after running dcpromo, you made it a DC. go to start run - and

type dcpromo. You will want to remove AD to make the Domain controller a

standalone/workgroup server.

 

hth

DDS

 

"bill allemann" <custom4173@sbcglobal.netINVALID> wrote in message

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>I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

>server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

>

> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing PC's

> were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing the

> local network.

>

> I'm dealing with a small LAN with a few PC's, one of which is XP Home, and

> it doesn't appear that I can make it a client computer on the new server.

>

>

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)
Posted

Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

 

"bill allemann" <custom4173@sbcglobal.netINVALID> wrote in message

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>I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

>server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

>

> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing PC's

> were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing the

> local network.

>

> I'm dealing with a small LAN with a few PC's, one of which is XP Home, and

> it doesn't appear that I can make it a client computer on the new server.

>

 

WinXP Home cannot join a domain.

 

You can use (abuse?) any Windows server as a workgroup

server. As long as the users' local accounts/passwords are

synchronised with the server-based accounts/passwords, they

can map drive letters to shares that reside on the server etc.

Guest bill allemann
Posted

Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

Danny,

 

I guess I already ran DCPROMO, but I never saw any mention

of config'g as standalone server along the way.

I'm a newbie with this, so you have to be kind of specific :)

>You will want to remove AD to make the Domain controller a

>standalone/workgroup server

 

So I need to run DCPROMO from the command line?

I'm not clear on what is "Remove AD" ??

Menu choice, removing characters from a command. ....?

 

Thanks,

Bill

 

 

 

"Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message

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> >I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

> >server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

>

> Yes, don't run dcpromo. The initial install is a standalone/workgroup

> server.

>

>> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

>> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing

>> PC's were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing

>> the local network.

>

> If this was after running dcpromo, you made it a DC. go to start run - and

> type dcpromo. You will want to remove AD to make the Domain controller a

> standalone/workgroup server.

>

> hth

> DDS

>

> "bill allemann" <custom4173@sbcglobal.netINVALID> wrote in message

> news:%234aKTaOQIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

>>server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

>>

>> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

>> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing

>> PC's were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing

>> the local network.

>>

Guest Danny Sanders
Posted

Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

> I guess I already ran DCPROMO, but I never saw any mention

> of config'g as standalone server along the way.

> I'm a newbie with this, so you have to be kind of specific :)

 

It was a workgroup server BEFORE you ran dcpromo. You will not see an option

for "standalone" server when running dcpromo. Dcpromo will install Active

Directory and change a standalone server into a domain controller (period)

there are NO other choices when running dcpromo.

 

Don't run dcpromo = standalone/member server. Run dcpromo and your ONLY

option is Domain Controller.

> So I need to run DCPROMO from the command line?

> I'm not clear on what is "Remove AD" ??

> Menu choice, removing characters from a command

 

You install Active Directory on a standalone server to make it a domain

controller. You remove Active Directory from a Domain Controller to make it

a standalone server.

 

Go to start - run - then type dcpromo. A wizard will appear and what you

want to do is remove Active directory. I don't have a domain controller here

that I can go through the steps and tell you step by step what each page on

the wizard says. If you follow the wizard and remove Active Directory you

will end up with a standalone server.

 

hth

DDS

 

 

"bill allemann" <custom4173@sbcglobal.netINVALID> wrote in message

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> Danny,

>

> I guess I already ran DCPROMO, but I never saw any mention

> of config'g as standalone server along the way.

> I'm a newbie with this, so you have to be kind of specific :)

>

>>You will want to remove AD to make the Domain controller a

>>standalone/workgroup server

>

> So I need to run DCPROMO from the command line?

> I'm not clear on what is "Remove AD" ??

> Menu choice, removing characters from a command. ....?

>

> Thanks,

> Bill

>

>

>

> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message

> news:OAKUMkOQIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

>> >server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

>>

>> Yes, don't run dcpromo. The initial install is a standalone/workgroup

>> server.

>>

>>> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

>>> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing

>>> PC's were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing

>>> the local network.

>>

>> If this was after running dcpromo, you made it a DC. go to start run -

>> and type dcpromo. You will want to remove AD to make the Domain

>> controller a standalone/workgroup server.

>>

>> hth

>> DDS

>>

>> "bill allemann" <custom4173@sbcglobal.netINVALID> wrote in message

>> news:%234aKTaOQIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or domain

>>>server. Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup server?

>>>

>>> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

>>> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing

>>> PC's were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when browsing

>>> the local network.

>>>

>

>

Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Posted

Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

bill allemann <custom4173@sbcglobal.netINVALID> wrote:

> I think earlier versions had an option to config as workgroup or

> domain server.

 

SBS? No.

> Is there any way to make win2003 act as workgroup

> server?

 

W2003?

Yes.

 

 

SBS2003?

No. It won't work / it'll start shutting down / it violates the EULA. If you

don't want AD/Exchange, etc., SBS isn't for you.

>

> It didn't seem like there was any choice during setup for other than

> domain server. It created a new domain on the LAN, and the existing

> PC's were in a named workgroup, which shows up separately when

> browsing the local network.

 

I suggest you post SBS questions in m.p.windows.server.sbs - if you haven't

set up SBS before (even if you've worked with AD) you should be very

careful - it does things its own way, and despite all its wizards, it's very

easy to botch an install if you don't follow the right steps.

>

> I'm dealing with a small LAN with a few PC's, one of which is XP

> Home, and it doesn't appear that I can make it a client computer on

> the new server.

 

No, it can't join a domain. XP Home doesn't belong on a corporate network,

really.

Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Posted

Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

Danny Sanders <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote:

 

<snip>

>

> You install Active Directory on a standalone server to make it a

> domain controller. You remove Active Directory from a Domain

> Controller to make it a standalone server.

 

NB: The OP is talking about Small Business Server - your advice wouldn't

apply to SBS, which

a) must be a DC

b) must hold all FSMO roles and

c) must be installed using its myriad wizards

 

Also, you can't run dcpromo on a box running Exchange, which SBS does by

default.

 

<snip>

Guest Danny Sanders
Posted

Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

Ah...

 

He mentioned SBS in the title but it was just Win 2k3 in the body of the

post.

 

 

 

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Danny Sanders <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote:

>

> <snip>

>>

>> You install Active Directory on a standalone server to make it a

>> domain controller. You remove Active Directory from a Domain

>> Controller to make it a standalone server.

>

> NB: The OP is talking about Small Business Server - your advice wouldn't

> apply to SBS, which

> a) must be a DC

> b) must hold all FSMO roles and

> c) must be installed using its myriad wizards

>

> Also, you can't run dcpromo on a box running Exchange, which SBS does by

> default.

>

> <snip>

>

Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Posted

Re: "workgroup" server Win2003 sbs?

 

Danny Sanders <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote:

> Ah...

>

> He mentioned SBS in the title but it was just Win 2k3 in the body of

> the post.

 

Ayuh. Took me a few re-reads myself. :)

>

>

>

> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in

> message news:OGBsJKZQIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Danny Sanders <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote:

>>

>> <snip>

>>>

>>> You install Active Directory on a standalone server to make it a

>>> domain controller. You remove Active Directory from a Domain

>>> Controller to make it a standalone server.

>>

>> NB: The OP is talking about Small Business Server - your advice

>> wouldn't apply to SBS, which

>> a) must be a DC

>> b) must hold all FSMO roles and

>> c) must be installed using its myriad wizards

>>

>> Also, you can't run dcpromo on a box running Exchange, which SBS

>> does by default.

>>

>> <snip>


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