OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

[Guest DaffyD®]

I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my computer,

going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

stay lit.

 

I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller or

what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

 

Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

 

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my computer,

> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

> stay lit.

>

> I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller or

> what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

>

> Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

 

Merry Christmas Daffy,

 

That's an indication that the ribbon data cable is reversed ( pin 1 on wrong side )

on the floppy. Although many FD's have a notch and 1 pin removed, and many cable

connectors match to it, not all do and the cable is easily reversed mistakenly.

 

--

 

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[Guest philo]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my computer,

> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

> stay lit.

>

 

 

Plain and simple...the floppy ribbon cable is reversed.

Flip it around and do nothing else.

[Guest glee]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

Floppy drive light ON all the time usually indicates the flat data ribbon cable is

plugged into the drive backwards. What you think is Pin 1 on the drive may not be.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:%23Z%23%23YysRIHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my computer,

> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

> stay lit.

>

> I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller or

> what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

>

> Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

[Guest Robert Baer]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

Brian A. wrote:

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:%23Z%23%23YysRIHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

>> computer,

>> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

>> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

>> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

>> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

>> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

>> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

>> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

>> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

>> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

>> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

>> stay lit.

>>

>> I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller or

>> what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

>>

>> Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

>> --

>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>

>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>>

>>

>

> Merry Christmas Daffy,

>

> That's an indication that the ribbon data cable is reversed ( pin 1 on

> wrong side ) on the floppy. Although many FD's have a notch and 1 pin

> removed, and many cable connectors match to it, not all do and the cable

> is easily reversed mistakenly.

>

Check and double check!

[Guest Robert Baer]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

philo wrote:

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:%23Z%23%23YysRIHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my computer,

>>going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

>>disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

>>the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

>>tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

>>making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

>>Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

>>connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

>>bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

>>correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

>>that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

>>stay lit.

>>

>

>

>

> Plain and simple...the floppy ribbon cable is reversed.

> Flip it around and do nothing else.

>

>

Yup!

[Guest PCR]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

work...

 

Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers during

any boot after the power supply was replaced?

 

If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

 

Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

 

(1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

(2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

 

If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may have

a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode. Point it

to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

 

But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

 

(3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

(Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

(4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

(5) Click the "Next" button.

(6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

(7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

 

Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

 

(It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But, all

is working well, & I will let that be.)

 

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

| computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back

| in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd

| light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through

| almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in

| there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is

| connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply is in there

| properly. I tried flipping some connections around just to see if

| that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new fdd and installed

| it, again making sure all connections were correct, and still had the

| same problem. I've disconnected the drive so that I don't hear that

| frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED stay lit.

|

| I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

| controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new

| PS.

|

| Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

| --

| { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|

| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

[Guest Robert Baer]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

PCR wrote:

> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

> work...

>

> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers during

> any boot after the power supply was replaced?

>

> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

>

> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

>

> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

>

> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may have

> a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode. Point it

> to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

>

> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

>

> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

> (5) Click the "Next" button.

> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

>

> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

> Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

> Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

> pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

> descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

> see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

> just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

>

> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But, all

> is working well, & I will let that be.)

>

>

It might also be useful to check what the BIOS sees for the floppy,

and check elsewhere in the BIOS to see if it is enabled.

Certainly if it is plugged in wrong (light on and constantly running

indicates that is the case), the BIOS will not "see" a floppy drive.

As far as "red stripe" on the cable goes, it can be plugged in wrong

on either end (plugged in wrong on both ends is the same as being correct).

And it does not hurt to make sure the cable is fully seated on both ends.

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I had to flip

the data cable around using my feet.

 

Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

> work...

>

> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers during

> any boot after the power supply was replaced?

>

> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

>

> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

>

> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

>

> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may have

> a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode. Point it

> to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

>

> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

>

> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

> (5) Click the "Next" button.

> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

>

> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

> Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

> Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

> pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

> descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

> see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

> just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

>

> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But, all

> is working well, & I will let that be.)

>

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> DaffyD® wrote:

> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

> | computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back

> | in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd

> | light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through

> | almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in

> | there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is

> | connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply is in there

> | properly. I tried flipping some connections around just to see if

> | that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new fdd and installed

> | it, again making sure all connections were correct, and still had the

> | same problem. I've disconnected the drive so that I don't hear that

> | frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED stay lit.

> |

> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new

> | PS.

> |

> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> | --

> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> |

> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

My thanks to you all for coming thru, as always.

 

What's strange in this situation is that I never touched the ribbon cable

during the power supply install. I did unplug the molex connector to the

drive and that was it.

 

I have also tried flipping the ribbon data cable in all configurations and

it didn't make any difference. That's why I was wondering if it was the

controller. I've also checked the bios and things looked ok there. I'll try

the ribbon cable again and the other suggestions and report back.

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my computer,

> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

> stay lit.

>

> I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller or

> what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

>

> Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

If the light stays on all the time no matter which way you turn the data cable, it's

possible you are not getting the cable plugged in securely. You may need to push a

little harder when connecting the cable.

 

Also, make sure the molex power cable is connected right side up and firmly seated.

 

Make sure you have the data cable aligned properly to all the pins on the connector,

with no pins bent to the side, and that you are not plugging the cable in off set so

that you are not on a couple of pins at one end of the connector.

 

It's also possible the controller board on the drive got damaged when you were

switching the molex...they can get loose and then crack.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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> My thanks to you all for coming thru, as always.

>

> What's strange in this situation is that I never touched the ribbon cable

> during the power supply install. I did unplug the molex connector to the

> drive and that was it.

>

> I have also tried flipping the ribbon data cable in all configurations and

> it didn't make any difference. That's why I was wondering if it was the

> controller. I've also checked the bios and things looked ok there. I'll try

> the ribbon cable again and the other suggestions and report back.

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:%23Z%23%23YysRIHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my computer,

>> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the floppy

>> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front of

>> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

>> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

>> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

>> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping some

>> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even

>> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

>> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so

>> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

>> stay lit.

>>

>> I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller or

>> what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

>>

>> Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

>> --

>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>

>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Robert Baer]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

DaffyD® wrote:

> Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I had to flip

> the data cable around using my feet.

>

> Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

>

> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

>>stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

>>work...

>>

>>Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

>>problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers during

>>any boot after the power supply was replaced?

>>

>>If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

>>

>>Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

>>

>>(1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

>>(2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

>>

>> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may have

>>a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode. Point it

>>to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

>>

>> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

>>

>>(3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

>> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

>>(4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

>>(5) Click the "Next" button.

>>(6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

>>(7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

>>

>>Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

>>Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

>>Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

>>pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

>>descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

>>see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

>>just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

>>

>>(It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But, all

>>is working well, & I will let that be.)

>>

>>

>>--

>>Thanks or Good Luck,

>>There may be humor in this post, and,

>>Naturally, you will not sue,

>>Should things get worse after this,

>>PCR

>>pcrrcp@netzero.net

>>

>>DaffyD® wrote:

>>| I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

>>| computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back

>>| in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd

>>| light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through

>>| almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in

>>| there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is

>>| connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply is in there

>>| properly. I tried flipping some connections around just to see if

>>| that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new fdd and installed

>>| it, again making sure all connections were correct, and still had the

>>| same problem. I've disconnected the drive so that I don't hear that

>>| frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED stay lit.

>>|

>>| I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

>>| controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new

>>| PS.

>>|

>>| Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

>>| --

>>| { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>|

>>| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>>

>>

>

>

>

*READ* what he said ---> "head" !!!

[Guest PCR]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

Robert Baer wrote:

| PCR wrote:

|> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

|> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

|> work...

|>

|> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

|> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers

|> during any boot after the power supply was replaced?

|>

|> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

|>

|> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

|>

|> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

|> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

|>

|> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may

|> have a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode.

|> Point it to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

|>

|> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

|>

|> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

|> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

|> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

|> (5) Click the "Next" button.

|> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

|> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

|>

|> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

|> Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

|> Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

|> pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

|> descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

|> see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

|> just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

|>

|> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But,

|> all is working well, & I will let that be.)

|>

|>

| It might also be useful to check what the BIOS sees for the floppy,

| and check elsewhere in the BIOS to see if it is enabled.

| Certainly if it is plugged in wrong (light on and constantly

| running indicates that is the case), the BIOS will not "see" a floppy

| drive. As far as "red stripe" on the cable goes, it can be plugged

| in wrong

| on either end (plugged in wrong on both ends is the same as being

| correct). And it does not hurt to make sure the cable is fully

| seated on both ends.

 

I agree with all of that. Others, like glee, have often said to check

that BIOS is seeing the right size floppy drive, if there are choices in

there. Even my own Compaq BIOS seems to have a section for that!

 

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest PCR]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I had

| to flip the data cable around using my feet.

 

I did say "head", as Baer has pointed out. You can still use your hands

that way! (But wait for them to heal now.) Anyhow, I was only agreeing

with Brian A. & the others on that one! (Now/then I do borrow their

ideas. In fact, the rest of it may have come originally from them too.)

 

| Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

 

You are welcome, & I hope something will solve it. Also, Baer may be

onto something-- check that BIOS is seeing the right size/whatever

floppy.

 

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

|> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

|> work...

|>

|> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

|> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers

|> during any boot after the power supply was replaced?

|>

|> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

|>

|> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

|>

|> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

|> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

|>

|> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may

|> have a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode.

|> Point it to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

|>

|> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

|>

|> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

|> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

|> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

|> (5) Click the "Next" button.

|> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

|> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

|>

|> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

|> Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

|> Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

|> pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

|> descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

|> see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

|> just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

|>

|> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But,

|> all is working well, & I will let that be.)

|>

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> DaffyD® wrote:

|> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

|> | computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything

|> | back in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and

|> | the fdd light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've

|> | gone through almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to

|> | be sure it's in there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable

|> | red wire side is connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply

|> | is in there properly. I tried flipping some connections around

|> | just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new

|> | fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

|> | correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the

|> | drive so that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and

|> | see the green LED stay lit.

|> |

|> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

|> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the

|> | new PS.

|> |

|> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

|> | --

|> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> |

|> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest PCR]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I had

| to flip the data cable around using my feet.

|

| Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

 

You are welcome. One final thought, going by the symptom you report that

there is a constant access of the floppy drive...

 

(1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

(2) Open the "Disk drives" branch.

(3) D-Clk the floppy drive that appears under it for Properties.

(Mine is "Generic NEC Floppy Disk".)

(4) At the Settings tab, ensure "Removable" is unchecked.

 

(It just sounds as if that might relate.)

 

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

|> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

|> work...

|>

|> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

|> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers

|> during any boot after the power supply was replaced?

|>

|> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

|>

|> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

|>

|> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

|> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

|>

|> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may

|> have a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode.

|> Point it to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

|>

|> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

|>

|> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

|> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

|> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

|> (5) Click the "Next" button.

|> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

|> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

|>

|> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

|> Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

|> Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

|> pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

|> descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

|> see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

|> just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

|>

|> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But,

|> all is working well, & I will let that be.)

|>

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> DaffyD® wrote:

|> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

|> | computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything

|> | back in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and

|> | the fdd light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've

|> | gone through almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to

|> | be sure it's in there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable

|> | red wire side is connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply

|> | is in there properly. I tried flipping some connections around

|> | just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new

|> | fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

|> | correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the

|> | drive so that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and

|> | see the green LED stay lit.

|> |

|> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

|> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the

|> | new PS.

|> |

|> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

|> | --

|> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> |

|> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest PCR]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

PCR wrote:

| DaffyD® wrote:

|| Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I had

|| to flip the data cable around using my feet.

||

|| Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

|

| You are welcome. One final thought, going by the symptom you report

| that there is a constant access of the floppy drive...

|

| (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

| (2) Open the "Disk drives" branch.

| (3) D-Clk the floppy drive that appears under it for Properties.

| (Mine is "Generic NEC Floppy Disk".)

| (4) At the Settings tab, ensure "Removable" is unchecked.

|

| (It just sounds as if that might relate.)

 

SHEESH-- I mean ensure it is CHECKED!

 

|| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|| news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

||> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

||> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

||> work...

||>

||> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

||> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers

||> during any boot after the power supply was replaced?

||>

||> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

||>

||> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

||>

||> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

||> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

||>

||> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may

||> have a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode.

||> Point it to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

||>

||> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

||>

||> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

||> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

||> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

||> (5) Click the "Next" button.

||> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

||> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

||>

||> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in

||> the Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller"

||> in the Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in

||> the left pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left

||> pane, descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state

||> what you see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to

||> the original just to shake things up. To switch, select one, &

||> click "Next".

||>

||> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But,

||> all is working well, & I will let that be.)

||>

||>

||> --

||> Thanks or Good Luck,

||> There may be humor in this post, and,

||> Naturally, you will not sue,

||> Should things get worse after this,

||> PCR

||> pcrrcp@netzero.net

||>

||> DaffyD® wrote:

||> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

||> | computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything

||> | back in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and

||> | the fdd light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've

||> | gone through almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to

||> | be sure it's in there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable

||> | red wire side is connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply

||> | is in there properly. I tried flipping some connections around

||> | just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new

||> | fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

||> | correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the

||> | drive so that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and

||> | see the green LED stay lit.

||> |

||> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

||> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the

||> | new PS.

||> |

||> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

||> | --

||> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

||> |

||> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

|

| --

| Thanks or Good Luck,

| There may be humor in this post, and,

| Naturally, you will not sue,

| Should things get worse after this,

| PCR

| pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

How do I know if the molex connector is right side up? Does the red wire go

on the lefthand side?

 

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:ufbo%23TQSIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> If the light stays on all the time no matter which way you turn the data

cable, it's

> possible you are not getting the cable plugged in securely. You may need

to push a

> little harder when connecting the cable.

>

> Also, make sure the molex power cable is connected right side up and

firmly seated.

>

> Make sure you have the data cable aligned properly to all the pins on the

connector,

> with no pins bent to the side, and that you are not plugging the cable in

off set so

> that you are not on a couple of pins at one end of the connector.

>

> It's also possible the controller board on the drive got damaged when you

were

> switching the molex...they can get loose and then crack.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:uf7b94OSIHA.4128@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > My thanks to you all for coming thru, as always.

> >

> > What's strange in this situation is that I never touched the ribbon

cable

> > during the power supply install. I did unplug the molex connector to

the

> > drive and that was it.

> >

> > I have also tried flipping the ribbon data cable in all configurations

and

> > it didn't make any difference. That's why I was wondering if it was the

> > controller. I've also checked the bios and things looked ok there. I'll

try

> > the ribbon cable again and the other suggestions and report back.

> >

> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23Z%23%23YysRIHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

computer,

> >> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the

floppy

> >> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front

of

> >> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

> >> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

> >> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

> >> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping

some

> >> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I

even

> >> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections

were

> >> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive

so

> >> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green

LED

> >> stay lit.

> >>

> >> I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller

or

> >> what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

> >>

> >> Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> >> --

> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >>

> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

I'll give this a try and report back to the group. I may need to break into

the box again which I hate to do since it's very old somewhat difficult to

maneuver around inside without pulling out other power ribbon cables. I also

need to unscrew expansion cards from the back of the box if I need to slide

out the motherboard to give me even more room inside to poke around.

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

> work...

>

> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers during

> any boot after the power supply was replaced?

>

> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

>

> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

>

> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

>

> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may have

> a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode. Point it

> to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

>

> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

>

> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

> (5) Click the "Next" button.

> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

>

> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

> Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

> Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

> pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

> descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

> see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

> just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

>

> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But, all

> is working well, & I will let that be.)

>

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> DaffyD® wrote:

> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

> | computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back

> | in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd

> | light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through

> | almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in

> | there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is

> | connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply is in there

> | properly. I tried flipping some connections around just to see if

> | that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new fdd and installed

> | it, again making sure all connections were correct, and still had the

> | same problem. I've disconnected the drive so that I don't hear that

> | frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED stay lit.

> |

> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new

> | PS.

> |

> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> | --

> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> |

> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

 

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message

news:13n99djd4e1tcb@corp.supernews.com...

> DaffyD® wrote:

>

> > Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I had to

flip

> > the data cable around using my feet.

> >

> > Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

> >

> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >

> >>I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

> >>stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

> >>work...

> >>

> >>Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

> >>problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers during

> >>any boot after the power supply was replaced?

> >>

> >>If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

> >>

> >>Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

> >>

> >>(1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

> >>(2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

> >>

> >> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may have

> >>a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode. Point it

> >>to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

> >>

> >> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

> >>

> >>(3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

> >> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

> >>(4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

> >>(5) Click the "Next" button.

> >>(6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

> >>(7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

> >>

> >>Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

> >>Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

> >>Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

> >>pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

> >>descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

> >>see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

> >>just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

> >>

> >>(It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But, all

> >>is working well, & I will let that be.)

> >>

> >>

> >>--

> >>Thanks or Good Luck,

> >>There may be humor in this post, and,

> >>Naturally, you will not sue,

> >>Should things get worse after this,

> >>PCR

> >>pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >>

> >>DaffyD® wrote:

> >>| I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

> >>| computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back

> >>| in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd

> >>| light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through

> >>| almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in

> >>| there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is

> >>| connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply is in there

> >>| properly. I tried flipping some connections around just to see if

> >>| that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new fdd and installed

> >>| it, again making sure all connections were correct, and still had the

> >>| same problem. I've disconnected the drive so that I don't hear that

> >>| frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED stay lit.

> >>|

> >>| I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

> >>| controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new

> >>| PS.

> >>|

> >>| Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> >>| --

> >>| { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >>|

> >>| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> *READ* what he said ---> "head" !!!

 

Oops. I meant to type "head". It was a late night...

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:u0WAhebSIHA.6036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> PCR wrote:

> | DaffyD® wrote:

> || Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I had

> || to flip the data cable around using my feet.

> ||

> || Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

> |

> | You are welcome. One final thought, going by the symptom you report

> | that there is a constant access of the floppy drive...

> |

> | (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

> | (2) Open the "Disk drives" branch.

> | (3) D-Clk the floppy drive that appears under it for Properties.

> | (Mine is "Generic NEC Floppy Disk".)

> | (4) At the Settings tab, ensure "Removable" is unchecked.

> |

> | (It just sounds as if that might relate.)

>

> SHEESH-- I mean ensure it is CHECKED!

 

NOW you tell me!

>

> || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> || news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> ||> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

> ||> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

> ||> work...

> ||>

> ||> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

> ||> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers

> ||> during any boot after the power supply was replaced?

> ||>

> ||> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

> ||>

> ||> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

> ||>

> ||> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

> ||> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

> ||>

> ||> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may

> ||> have a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode.

> ||> Point it to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

> ||>

> ||> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

> ||>

> ||> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

> ||> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

> ||> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

> ||> (5) Click the "Next" button.

> ||> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

> ||> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

> ||>

> ||> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in

> ||> the Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller"

> ||> in the Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in

> ||> the left pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left

> ||> pane, descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state

> ||> what you see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to

> ||> the original just to shake things up. To switch, select one, &

> ||> click "Next".

> ||>

> ||> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But,

> ||> all is working well, & I will let that be.)

> ||>

> ||>

> ||> --

> ||> Thanks or Good Luck,

> ||> There may be humor in this post, and,

> ||> Naturally, you will not sue,

> ||> Should things get worse after this,

> ||> PCR

> ||> pcrrcp@netzero.net

> ||>

> ||> DaffyD® wrote:

> ||> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

> ||> | computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything

> ||> | back in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and

> ||> | the fdd light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've

> ||> | gone through almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to

> ||> | be sure it's in there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable

> ||> | red wire side is connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply

> ||> | is in there properly. I tried flipping some connections around

> ||> | just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new

> ||> | fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

> ||> | correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the

> ||> | drive so that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and

> ||> | see the green LED stay lit.

> ||> |

> ||> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

> ||> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the

> ||> | new PS.

> ||> |

> ||> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

> ||> | --

> ||> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> ||> |

> ||> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> |

> | --

> | Thanks or Good Luck,

> | There may be humor in this post, and,

> | Naturally, you will not sue,

> | Should things get worse after this,

> | PCR

> | pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

Thanks, Robert. I did try plugging it in using every configuration I could

think of, including reversing the ends, but still couldn't get it to work.

I hate to think about cracking open the box again but I'll give it a try.

 

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message

news:13n6chk7jnmf7ad@corp.supernews.com...

> PCR wrote:

> > I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

> > stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

> > work...

> >

> > Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

> > problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers during

> > any boot after the power supply was replaced?

> >

> > If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

> >

> > Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

> >

> > (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

> > (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

> >

> > If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may have

> > a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode. Point it

> > to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

> >

> > But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

> >

> > (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

> > (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

> > (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

> > (5) Click the "Next" button.

> > (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

> > (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

> >

> > Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

> > Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

> > Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

> > pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

> > descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

> > see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

> > just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

> >

> > (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But, all

> > is working well, & I will let that be.)

> >

> >

> It might also be useful to check what the BIOS sees for the floppy,

> and check elsewhere in the BIOS to see if it is enabled.

> Certainly if it is plugged in wrong (light on and constantly running

> indicates that is the case), the BIOS will not "see" a floppy drive.

> As far as "red stripe" on the cable goes, it can be plugged in wrong

> on either end (plugged in wrong on both ends is the same as being

correct).

> And it does not hurt to make sure the cable is fully seated on both

ends.

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

Looking at the connector straight-on, the flat side (top/bottom) with the side ends

extruding slightly past goes towards the male connector. Also the matching pin holes

will be closest to that edge.

 

 

--

 

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:OoYdQsoSIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> How do I know if the molex connector is right side up? Does the red wire go

> on the lefthand side?

>

> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> news:ufbo%23TQSIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> If the light stays on all the time no matter which way you turn the data

> cable, it's

>> possible you are not getting the cable plugged in securely. You may need

> to push a

>> little harder when connecting the cable.

>>

>> Also, make sure the molex power cable is connected right side up and

> firmly seated.

>>

>> Make sure you have the data cable aligned properly to all the pins on the

> connector,

>> with no pins bent to the side, and that you are not plugging the cable in

> off set so

>> that you are not on a couple of pins at one end of the connector.

>>

>> It's also possible the controller board on the drive got damaged when you

> were

>> switching the molex...they can get loose and then crack.

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> http://dts-l.net/

>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>>

>>

>> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:uf7b94OSIHA.4128@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > My thanks to you all for coming thru, as always.

>> >

>> > What's strange in this situation is that I never touched the ribbon

> cable

>> > during the power supply install. I did unplug the molex connector to

> the

>> > drive and that was it.

>> >

>> > I have also tried flipping the ribbon data cable in all configurations

> and

>> > it didn't make any difference. That's why I was wondering if it was the

>> > controller. I've also checked the bios and things looked ok there. I'll

> try

>> > the ribbon cable again and the other suggestions and report back.

>> >

>> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> > news:%23Z%23%23YysRIHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

> computer,

>> >> going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the

> floppy

>> >> disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front

> of

>> >> the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

>> >> tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

>> >> making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

>> >> Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping

> some

>> >> connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I

> even

>> >> bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections

> were

>> >> correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive

> so

>> >> that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green

> LED

>> >> stay lit.

>> >>

>> >> I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller

> or

>> >> what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

>> >>

>> >> Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

>> >> --

>> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>> >>

>> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>>

>

>

[Guest PCR]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| I'll give this a try and report back to the group. I may need to

| break into the box again which I hate to do since it's very old

| somewhat difficult to maneuver around inside without pulling out

| other power ribbon cables. I also need to unscrew expansion cards

| from the back of the box if I need to slide out the motherboard to

| give me even more room inside to poke around.

 

OK. Yea, be careful in there. Go in only if all driver fiddling fails.

Then, ensure all is plugged in right on all the drives & cards & even

that the RAM is in secure. It could be some device other than the floppy

is plugged bad & is the actual culprit somehow. Also, try an alternative

power plug for the floppy, if within reach. Keep us informed.

 

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug it &

|> stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that fails to

|> work...

|>

|> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only hardware

|> problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect any drivers

|> during any boot after the power supply was replaced?

|>

|> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

|>

|> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

|>

|> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

|> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

|>

|> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you may

|> have a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to Normal Mode.

|> Point it to the folder that contains your .cabs, if asked.

|>

|> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

|>

|> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

|> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

|> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

|> (5) Click the "Next" button.

|> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

|> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

|>

|> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in the

|> Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller" in the

|> Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there in the left

|> pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the left pane,

|> descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps, state what you

|> see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and back to the original

|> just to shake things up. To switch, select one, & click "Next".

|>

|> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller. But,

|> all is working well, & I will let that be.)

|>

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> DaffyD® wrote:

|> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

|> | computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything

|> | back in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and

|> | the fdd light on the front of the computer stayed on. Now, I've

|> | gone through almost all the tests--checking the Molex connector to

|> | be sure it's in there correctly; making sure the fdd ribbon cable

|> | red wire side is connected to pin 1. Making sure the power supply

|> | is in there properly. I tried flipping some connections around

|> | just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I even bought a new

|> | fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections were

|> | correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the

|> | drive so that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and

|> | see the green LED stay lit.

|> |

|> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

|> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the

|> | new PS.

|> |

|> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

|> | --

|> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> |

|> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest PCR]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:u0WAhebSIHA.6036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> PCR wrote:

|> | DaffyD® wrote:

|> || Stand on my hand? I think it would only make matters worse if I

|> || had to flip the data cable around using my feet.

|> ||

|> || Thanks for the other tips, PCR.

|> |

|> | You are welcome. One final thought, going by the symptom you report

|> | that there is a constant access of the floppy drive...

|> |

|> | (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

|> | (2) Open the "Disk drives" branch.

|> | (3) D-Clk the floppy drive that appears under it for Properties.

|> | (Mine is "Generic NEC Floppy Disk".)

|> | (4) At the Settings tab, ensure "Removable" is unchecked.

|> |

|> | (It just sounds as if that might relate.)

|

|>

|> SHEESH-- I mean ensure it is CHECKED!

|

| NOW you tell me!

 

LOL. It rolled into my head from my pinky toe as I practiced standing on

my own head. That's a long way to go!

 

|> || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> || news:eCZeAIBSIHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> ||> I think I must agree with the others, DaffyD®! You must unplug

|> ||> it & stand on your head while plugging it in again! But, if that

|> ||> fails to work...

|> ||>

|> ||> Right after replacing the power supply, was this the only

|> ||> hardware problem that showed up? Did Windows have to redetect

|> ||> any drivers during any boot after the power supply was replaced?

|> ||>

|> ||> If all else fails, it's worth a try to...

|> ||>

|> ||> Boot to Safe Mode (Hold F5 or Ctrl as you boot), &...

|> ||>

|> ||> (1) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"

|> ||> (2) Open the "Floppy disk controllers" branch.

|> ||>

|> ||> If there are more than one controller in this branch, you

|> ||> may have a "ghost". Therefore, delete them all, & reboot to

|> ||> Normal Mode. Point it to the folder that contains your .cabs, if

|> ||> asked.

|> ||>

|> ||> But, if there is already just one driver there, then...

|> ||>

|> ||> (3) D-Clk the controller that appears under it for Properties.

|> ||> (Mine is "Standard Floppy Disk Controller".)

|> ||> (4) At the Driver tab, click the "Update Driver" button.

|> ||> (5) Click the "Next" button.

|> ||> (6) Bolt "Display a list of drivers...", & click "Next".

|> ||> (7) Bolt "Show all hardware".

|> ||>

|> ||> Examine the screen. Mine is "Standard floppy disk controllers" in

|> ||> the Manufacturers (left) pane & "Standard Floppy Disk Controller"

|> ||> in the Models (right) pane. But I have four other choices there

|> ||> in the left pane-- including "Compaq". As one clicks them in the

|> ||> left pane, descriptive info shows up in the right pane. Perhaps,

|> ||> state what you see. It could be worthwhile to go to another and

|> ||> back to the original just to shake things up. To switch, select

|> ||> one, & click "Next".

|> ||>

|> ||> (It seems odd mine is the Standard & not a Compaq controller.

|> ||> But, all is working well, & I will let that be.)

|> ||>

|> ||>

|> ||> --

|> ||> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> ||> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> ||> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> ||> Should things get worse after this,

|> ||> PCR

|> ||> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|> ||>

|> ||> DaffyD® wrote:

|> ||> | I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on

|> ||> | my computer, going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged

|> ||> | everything back in, the floppy disk drive kept turning like a

|> ||> | cd drive and the fdd light on the front of the computer stayed

|> ||> | on. Now, I've gone through almost all the tests--checking the

|> ||> | Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly; making

|> ||> | sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

|> ||> | Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried

|> ||> | flipping some connections around just to see if that would fix

|> ||> | things--nothing. I even bought a new fdd and installed it,

|> ||> | again making sure all connections were correct, and still had

|> ||> | the same problem. I've disconnected the drive so that I don't

|> ||> | hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green LED

|> ||> | stay lit.

|> ||> |

|> ||> | I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd

|> ||> | controller or what the deal is. The drive worked fine before

|> ||> | the new PS.

|> ||> |

|> ||> | Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first

|> ||> | question. --

|> ||> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> ||> |

|> ||> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

[Guest Robert Baer]

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

Re: OK--The Floppy Disk Drive Question--Reply To All Who Responded

 

DaffyD® wrote:

> How do I know if the molex connector is right side up? Does the red wire go

> on the lefthand side?

>

> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> news:ufbo%23TQSIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>If the light stays on all the time no matter which way you turn the data

>

> cable, it's

>

>>possible you are not getting the cable plugged in securely. You may need

>

> to push a

>

>>little harder when connecting the cable.

>>

>>Also, make sure the molex power cable is connected right side up and

>

> firmly seated.

>

>>Make sure you have the data cable aligned properly to all the pins on the

>

> connector,

>

>>with no pins bent to the side, and that you are not plugging the cable in

>

> off set so

>

>>that you are not on a couple of pins at one end of the connector.

>>

>>It's also possible the controller board on the drive got damaged when you

>

> were

>

>>switching the molex...they can get loose and then crack.

>>--

>>Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>http://dts-l.net/

>>http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>>

>>

>>"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>>news:uf7b94OSIHA.4128@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>My thanks to you all for coming thru, as always.

>>>

>>>What's strange in this situation is that I never touched the ribbon

>

> cable

>

>>>during the power supply install. I did unplug the molex connector to

>

> the

>

>>>drive and that was it.

>>>

>>>I have also tried flipping the ribbon data cable in all configurations

>

> and

>

>>>it didn't make any difference. That's why I was wondering if it was the

>>>controller. I've also checked the bios and things looked ok there. I'll

>

> try

>

>>>the ribbon cable again and the other suggestions and report back.

>>>

>>>"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>>>news:%23Z%23%23YysRIHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>>I'm running Win 98SE. I recently replaced the power supply on my

>

> computer,

>

>>>>going from a 350W to 400W. After I plugged everything back in, the

>

> floppy

>

>>>>disk drive kept turning like a cd drive and the fdd light on the front

>

> of

>

>>>>the computer stayed on. Now, I've gone through almost all the

>>>>tests--checking the Molex connector to be sure it's in there correctly;

>>>>making sure the fdd ribbon cable red wire side is connected to pin 1.

>>>>Making sure the power supply is in there properly. I tried flipping

>

> some

>

>>>>connections around just to see if that would fix things--nothing. I

>

> even

>

>>>>bought a new fdd and installed it, again making sure all connections

>

> were

>

>>>>correct, and still had the same problem. I've disconnected the drive

>

> so

>

>>>>that I don't hear that frustrating "whirring" sound and see the green

>

> LED

>

>>>>stay lit.

>>>>

>>>>I don't know if installing the power supply damaged the fdd controller

>

> or

>

>>>>what the deal is. The drive worked fine before the new PS.

>>>>

>>>>Oh, and thanks to all of you who responded to my first question.

>>>>--

>>>>{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>>>

>>>>If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

I repeat: there is *no* standard on floppy drives, so the answer is

the same as for Shrodinger's cat in the box: both dead and alive.

Ya gots to *look* at the hardware carefully; in this case at *both* ends!