Guest Ed B Posted December 25, 2007 Posted December 25, 2007 I just installed & setup a new pc with Server 2003 to be used only as a file & application server in a workgroup setting. There are only 10 pcs in the network/office. I chose the per device/user licensing mode. The company has QuickBooks Enterprise Edition licensed for 10 users. If I installed QuickBooks with the QB database on the 2003 server, would there be any problem with the workstations (all running XP Pro or XP Home) accessing the database on the server? The reason why I ask this is that the Server 2003 Licensing (CAL Terminal Servers) confuses me. I do not think that using QuickBooks on the Server 2003 qualifies as a Terminal Service & therefore will be okay choosing the per device/user licensing. I really appreciate your input on this. Thank you & happy holidays. Ed B.
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted December 25, 2007 Posted December 25, 2007 Re: Server 2003 Licensing Modes & QuickBooks Hello Ed, Think the easiest and safest way is to contact MS support or your software vendor, to get the needed information. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > I just installed & setup a new pc with Server 2003 to be used only as > a > file & application server in a workgroup setting. There are only 10 > pcs in > the network/office. I chose the per device/user licensing mode. The > company > has QuickBooks Enterprise Edition licensed for 10 users. If I > installed > QuickBooks with the QB database on the 2003 server, would there be any > problem with the workstations (all running XP Pro or XP Home) > accessing the > database on the server? > The reason why I ask this is that the Server 2003 Licensing (CAL > Terminal > Servers) confuses me. I do not think that using QuickBooks on the > Server > 2003 qualifies as a Terminal Service & therefore will be okay choosing > the > per device/user licensing. > I really appreciate your input on this. > Thank you & happy holidays. > Ed B.
Guest Hank Arnold (MVP) Posted December 25, 2007 Posted December 25, 2007 Re: Server 2003 Licensing Modes & QuickBooks Ed B wrote: > I just installed & setup a new pc with Server 2003 to be used only as a > file & application server in a workgroup setting. There are only 10 pcs in > the network/office. I chose the per device/user licensing mode. The company > has QuickBooks Enterprise Edition licensed for 10 users. If I installed > QuickBooks with the QB database on the 2003 server, would there be any > problem with the workstations (all running XP Pro or XP Home) accessing the > database on the server? > The reason why I ask this is that the Server 2003 Licensing (CAL Terminal > Servers) confuses me. I do not think that using QuickBooks on the Server > 2003 qualifies as a Terminal Service & therefore will be okay choosing the > per device/user licensing. > I really appreciate your input on this. > > Thank you & happy holidays. > Ed B. > > What is "per device/user"? It's either "per device" or "per user". Which is it? If you're not going to use Terminal Services. then you need to contact the vendor on how to access it with your 10 licenses... -- Regards, Hank Arnold Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
Guest Ed B Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 Re: Server 2003 Licensing Modes & QuickBooks "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message news:eNrRSQyRIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Ed B wrote: >> I just installed & setup a new pc with Server 2003 to be used only as a >> file & application server in a workgroup setting. There are only 10 pcs >> in the network/office. I chose the per device/user licensing mode. The >> company has QuickBooks Enterprise Edition licensed for 10 users. If I >> installed QuickBooks with the QB database on the 2003 server, would there >> be any problem with the workstations (all running XP Pro or XP Home) >> accessing the database on the server? >> The reason why I ask this is that the Server 2003 Licensing (CAL Terminal >> Servers) confuses me. I do not think that using QuickBooks on the Server >> 2003 qualifies as a Terminal Service & therefore will be okay choosing >> the per device/user licensing. >> I really appreciate your input on this. >> >> Thank you & happy holidays. >> Ed B. > > What is "per device/user"? It's either "per device" or "per user". Which > is it? > > If you're not going to use Terminal Services. then you need to contact the > vendor on how to access it with your 10 licenses... > > -- > > Regards, > Hank Arnold > Microsoft MVP > Windows Server - Directory Services Hank, Thank you for your reply. Allow me to better explain what "per device/user" is... During a stage of the installation setup,a window pops up with the heading "Windows Setup" and titled "Licensing Modes". Underneath that is a sentence that says "Windows Server 2003 supports two licensing modes." Then in the gray box below that: "Select the licensing mode you want to use." One choice said, "Per Server. Number of concurrent connections" & there was a menu where select I a number. It then continued to say, "Each connection must have his own client license." The other choice said "Per Device or Per User. Each device or user must have his own Client Access License" This is what I am referring to. I'm sorry for not being clearer in my initial question. This is a Dell Server that came with 5 CAL licenses. I have setup a similar multi user QuickBooks Server database to run on a Windows XP Professional (which allows up to 10 simultaneous connections) pc without any problems. So I thought it might run smoother & quicker on a pc that was designed to be a server running a server OS. This has nothing to do with Terminal Services. Maybe I should not have mentioned the 10 licenses in reference to the QuickBooks Software which limits the access to their database to 10 users. So, to better phrase my question: Having made the "PerDevice or Per User" licensing mode choice I mentioned above, will Server 2003 allow me to run a simple file sharing application (Quick Books) on the local intranet with up to 10 users simultaneously onnected? Thank you for your time, patience & the unselfish sharing of your wisdom. Ed B.
Guest dan Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 Re: Server 2003 Licensing Modes & QuickBooks "Ed B" <ezgoined2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1clcj.718$pA7.241@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message > news:eNrRSQyRIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Ed B wrote: >>> I just installed & setup a new pc with Server 2003 to be used only as a >>> file & application server in a workgroup setting. There are only 10 pcs >>> in the network/office. I chose the per device/user licensing mode. The >>> company has QuickBooks Enterprise Edition licensed for 10 users. If I >>> installed QuickBooks with the QB database on the 2003 server, would >>> there be any problem with the workstations (all running XP Pro or XP >>> Home) accessing the database on the server? >>> The reason why I ask this is that the Server 2003 Licensing (CAL >>> Terminal Servers) confuses me. I do not think that using QuickBooks on >>> the Server 2003 qualifies as a Terminal Service & therefore will be okay >>> choosing the per device/user licensing. >>> I really appreciate your input on this. >>> >>> Thank you & happy holidays. >>> Ed B. >> >> What is "per device/user"? It's either "per device" or "per user". Which >> is it? >> >> If you're not going to use Terminal Services. then you need to contact >> the vendor on how to access it with your 10 licenses... >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Hank Arnold >> Microsoft MVP >> Windows Server - Directory Services > > Hank, > Thank you for your reply. Allow me to better explain what "per > device/user" is... > During a stage of the installation setup,a window pops up with the heading > "Windows Setup" and titled "Licensing Modes". > Underneath that is a sentence that says "Windows Server 2003 supports two > licensing modes." > Then in the gray box below that: > "Select the licensing mode you want to use." > > One choice said, "Per Server. Number of concurrent connections" & there > was a menu where select I a number. It then continued to say, > "Each connection must have his own client license." > > The other choice said "Per Device or Per User. Each device or user must > have his own Client Access License" > > This is what I am referring to. I'm sorry for not being clearer in my > initial question. This is a Dell Server that came with 5 CAL licenses. > I have setup a similar multi user QuickBooks Server database to run on a > Windows XP Professional (which allows up to 10 simultaneous connections) > pc without any problems. So I thought it might run smoother & quicker on a > pc that was designed to be a server running a server OS. > This has nothing to do with Terminal Services. Maybe I should not have > mentioned the 10 licenses in reference to the QuickBooks Software which > limits the access to their database to 10 users. > > So, to better phrase my question: Having made the "PerDevice or Per User" > licensing mode choice I mentioned above, will Server 2003 allow me to run > a simple file sharing application (Quick Books) on the local intranet with > up to 10 users simultaneously onnected? > > Thank you for your time, patience & the unselfish sharing of your wisdom. Ed, with the licensing you have for Quickbooks, you should have no problem putting it on the server and supporting 10 simultaneous connections. However, since you have 10 users, you need 10 CALs for Windows Server 2003. This is independent of the Quickbooks question. > > Ed B. > >
Guest Kerry Brown Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 Re: Server 2003 Licensing Modes & QuickBooks You don't need to install Terminal Services to use QuickBooks so you don't need to purchase Terminal Server CALs. It does sound like you need to purchase an additional 5 Windows CALs for a total of ten. This allows either ten devices or ten users to connect to the server. If you pick device mode then any amount of users can use the ten devices (computers). You could have any number of users but they could only log on from one of the devices you assigned a CAL to so only ten users could be logged in at one time. If you assign the CALs to users then you can only have ten users but they can log on from any device. They could work from home via a VPN. A user could have a desktop computer and a laptop and log in from either device. In many cases with small workgroups it doesn't really matter which mode you pick as each user has one computer. The choice only comes into play if you have more users than computers (device mode) or more computers than users (user mode). http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/caloverview.mspx The choice you made Per Device/Per User is permanent and can't be changed. Per Server works a little differently but it is too late to switch now. I think you made the right choice in any case. Now you have to decide if you want to use per device or per user, buy five more CALs and assign them. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca "Ed B" <ezgoined2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1clcj.718$pA7.241@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message > news:eNrRSQyRIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Ed B wrote: >>> I just installed & setup a new pc with Server 2003 to be used only as a >>> file & application server in a workgroup setting. There are only 10 pcs >>> in the network/office. I chose the per device/user licensing mode. The >>> company has QuickBooks Enterprise Edition licensed for 10 users. If I >>> installed QuickBooks with the QB database on the 2003 server, would >>> there be any problem with the workstations (all running XP Pro or XP >>> Home) accessing the database on the server? >>> The reason why I ask this is that the Server 2003 Licensing (CAL >>> Terminal Servers) confuses me. I do not think that using QuickBooks on >>> the Server 2003 qualifies as a Terminal Service & therefore will be okay >>> choosing the per device/user licensing. >>> I really appreciate your input on this. >>> >>> Thank you & happy holidays. >>> Ed B. >> >> What is "per device/user"? It's either "per device" or "per user". Which >> is it? >> >> If you're not going to use Terminal Services. then you need to contact >> the vendor on how to access it with your 10 licenses... >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Hank Arnold >> Microsoft MVP >> Windows Server - Directory Services > > Hank, > Thank you for your reply. Allow me to better explain what "per > device/user" is... > During a stage of the installation setup,a window pops up with the heading > "Windows Setup" and titled "Licensing Modes". > Underneath that is a sentence that says "Windows Server 2003 supports two > licensing modes." > Then in the gray box below that: > "Select the licensing mode you want to use." > > One choice said, "Per Server. Number of concurrent connections" & there > was a menu where select I a number. It then continued to say, > "Each connection must have his own client license." > > The other choice said "Per Device or Per User. Each device or user must > have his own Client Access License" > > This is what I am referring to. I'm sorry for not being clearer in my > initial question. This is a Dell Server that came with 5 CAL licenses. > I have setup a similar multi user QuickBooks Server database to run on a > Windows XP Professional (which allows up to 10 simultaneous connections) > pc without any problems. So I thought it might run smoother & quicker on a > pc that was designed to be a server running a server OS. > This has nothing to do with Terminal Services. Maybe I should not have > mentioned the 10 licenses in reference to the QuickBooks Software which > limits the access to their database to 10 users. > > So, to better phrase my question: Having made the "PerDevice or Per User" > licensing mode choice I mentioned above, will Server 2003 allow me to run > a simple file sharing application (Quick Books) on the local intranet with > up to 10 users simultaneously onnected? > > Thank you for your time, patience & the unselfish sharing of your wisdom. > > Ed B. > >
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