Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatability issues!

[Guest Teflon]

I decided to upgrade 98FE to SE on an IBM i1400-2911-411 via an OEM CD

for an older Gateway desktop model that my son had discarded. Don't

know the model.

 

Things are working, after a fashion, but the display adapter and

driver installed is the basic VGA, ala minimum colors and screen

density. Can't adjust either via Control Panel.

 

Wanting to have more than this grainy screen to read, to deal with

some other Windows' incompatabilities and peculiarities, I went to the

Lenovo site and downloaded the video driver for the original 98FE

installation - Neomagic MagicGraph 128ZV+. Installed it and the

machine upchucked - Windows damage message, Win stopped loading.

 

Got in to Safe Mode and got it back to the basic VGA, now Windows

loads again, but would like to have more than this grainy screen. Any

ideas and / or paths to follow?

 

Several curiosity items, the Windows SE startup flash screen looks

exactly like the old FE screen. Thought it would say something about

it being SE. No? Plus, that screen, and all the boot message screens

leading up to Windows loading, are in good shape. It's only when it

gets to the Windows login screen that it goes to the VGA bit. You're

probably going to tell me the MB is driving those screens and hands it

off to SE, which uses the basic VGA. OK, but back to getting SE up to

snuff, any ideas?

[Guest philo]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatability issues!

 

 

"Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1e64afef-8178-43df-ab3d-4cfa03d72d42@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> I decided to upgrade 98FE to SE on an IBM i1400-2911-411 via an OEM CD

> for an older Gateway desktop model that my son had discarded. Don't

> know the model.

>

> Things are working, after a fashion, but the display adapter and

> driver installed is the basic VGA, ala minimum colors and screen

> density. Can't adjust either via Control Panel.

>

>

 

 

You need to install the video chip drivers...

you should be able to get them from the mfg's website

[Guest Teflon]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

> > Things are working, after a fashion, but the display adapter and

> > driver installed is the basic VGA, ala minimum colors and screen

> > density.  Can't adjust either via Control Panel.

>

> You need to install the video chip drivers...

> you should be able to get them from the mfg's website

 

OK, but isn't that what I did when I got and installed the NeoMagic

driver (Neomagic MagicGraph 128ZV+) from the Lenovo website? That was

the only video driver available for that model ThinkPad. Is there

another set of drivers required for those video chips?

 

OR, since that ThinkPad originally had WIN98FE installed, does WIN98SE

now take a different driver?

 

If so, which one?

 

Thanks for your input.

[Guest philo]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatability issues!

 

 

"Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:2bbb0faa-7084-4efe-8fb9-1bcdd1ac93ca@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> > Things are working, after a fashion, but the display adapter and

> > driver installed is the basic VGA, ala minimum colors and screen

> > density. Can't adjust either via Control Panel.

>

> You need to install the video chip drivers...

> you should be able to get them from the mfg's website

 

OK, but isn't that what I did when I got and installed the NeoMagic

driver (Neomagic MagicGraph 128ZV+) from the Lenovo website? That was

the only video driver available for that model ThinkPad. Is there

another set of drivers required for those video chips?

 

OR, since that ThinkPad originally had WIN98FE installed, does WIN98SE

now take a different driver?

 

If so, which one?

 

Thanks for your input.

 

 

Win98FE & Win98SE should use the same driver.

 

Was the driver on the website written for win98 or was it for XP???

[Guest Ben Myers]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatability issues!

 

"Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1e64afef-8178-43df-ab3d-4cfa03d72d42@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> I decided to upgrade 98FE to SE on an IBM i1400-2911-411 via an OEM CD

> for an older Gateway desktop model that my son had discarded. Don't

> know the model.

> Things are working, after a fashion, but the display adapter and

> driver installed is the basic VGA, ala minimum colors and screen

> density. Can't adjust either via Control Panel.

<snip>

 

If it's a 2611 and not a 2911, see

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DSHY-3ZQULQ

 

Ben

[Guest Teflon]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

On Dec 28, 7:27 am, "Ben Myers" <benjmy...@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com>

wrote:

> "Teflon" <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1e64afef-8178-43df-ab3d-4cfa03d72d42@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> > I decided to upgrade 98FE to SE on an IBM i1400-2911-411 via an OEM CD

> > for an older Gateway desktop model that my son had discarded.  Don't

> > know the model.

> > Things are working, after a fashion, but the display adapter and

> > driver installed is the basic VGA, ala minimum colors and screen

> > density.  Can't adjust either via Control Panel.

>

> <snip>

>

> If it's a 2611 and not a 2911, seehttp://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DSHY-3...

>

> Ben

 

Thanks Ben, 2611 is the model, These old eyes can't read upside down

as well as they used to, plus staring at that grainy screen has all

but ruined them.

 

That is the website I went to and that is the driver I installed that

caused the SE upchuck problem. Haven't been able to find another, and

if FE or SE doesn't make a difference, could there be any conflict

regarding Gateway's version of SE for a desktop versus IBM's for a

ThinkPad?

 

Slowly going blind here. The good news is, SE is fairly stable now.

[Guest Ben Myers]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatability issues!

 

"Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message news:8a7f00ba-402d-4cc5-ba9b-904a5f4a36f3@x29g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

On Dec 28, 7:27 am, "Ben Myers" <benjmy...@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com>

wrote:

> "Teflon" <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1e64afef-8178-43df-ab3d-4cfa03d72d42@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> > I decided to upgrade 98FE to SE on an IBM i1400-2911-411 via an OEM CD

> > for an older Gateway desktop model that my son had discarded. Don't

> > know the model.

> > Things are working, after a fashion, but the display adapter and

> > driver installed is the basic VGA, ala minimum colors and screen

> > density. Can't adjust either via Control Panel.

> <snip>

>

> If it's a 2611 and not a 2911, seehttp://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DSHY-3...

>Thanks Ben, 2611 is the model, These old eyes can't read upside down

>as well as they used to, plus staring at that grainy screen has all

>but ruined them.

>That is the website I went to and that is the driver I installed that

>caused the SE upchuck problem. Haven't been able to find another, and

>if FE or SE doesn't make a difference, could there be any conflict

>regarding Gateway's version of SE for a desktop versus IBM's for a

>ThinkPad?

>Slowly going blind here. The good news is, SE is fairly stable now.

 

Go into the BIOS setup and make sure the video is properly configured.

Be sure to save any changes when exiting. If this doesn't help, you might

try downloading a fresh copy of the driver and installing it in Safe mode.

 

Ben

[Guest Teflon]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

> Go into the BIOS setup and make sure the video is properly configured.

> Be sure to save any changes when exiting.  If this doesn't help, you might

> try downloading a fresh copy of the driver and installing it in Safe mode.

>

> Ben- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

Since this box was running quite well on 98FE, and all I've done is

install SE, I didn't mess with the BIOS, so, there shouldn't be any

changes in the BIOS, should there?

 

I will check the BIOS and see if anything is amis. Was there a

required BIOS update for SE?

 

If Gary Trehune is reading this thread; Gary, you have an incorrect

DOS parameter in the FORMAT command of your 'Clean Install' cookbook.

There's no \ after the drive letter - C: (Of course I know you knew

that, but it had me going for awhile, no DOS coding background, just

SPS, FARGO and Autocoder.)

[Guest Ben Myers]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatability issues!

 

"Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message news:beb31f42-9e74-4fee-8382-62f94ed0d827@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> Go into the BIOS setup and make sure the video is properly configured.

> Be sure to save any changes when exiting. If this doesn't help, you might

> try downloading a fresh copy of the driver and installing it in Safe mode.

>

> Ben- Hide quoted text -

>Since this box was running quite well on 98FE, and all I've done is

>install SE, I didn't mess with the BIOS, so, there shouldn't be any

>changes in the BIOS, should there?

 

Probably not.

>I will check the BIOS and see if anything is amis. Was there a

>required BIOS update for SE?

 

I didn't see one on the Lenovo site. You might try starting the

computer in Safe mode and using Control Panel, Device Manager

to remove the driver for the display adapter. When Windows

restarts normally and redetects the adapter, click "Have disk"

and use the downloaded driver.

>If Gary Trehune is reading this thread; Gary, you have an incorrect

>DOS parameter in the FORMAT command of your 'Clean Install' cookbook.

>There's no \ after the drive letter - C: (Of course I know you knew

>that, but it had me going for awhile, no DOS coding background, just

>SPS, FARGO and Autocoder.)

 

Ben

[Guest Teflon]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatabilityissues!

 

> You might try starting the

> computer in Safe mode and using Control Panel, Device Manager

> to remove the driver for the display adapter.  When Windows

> restarts normally and redetects the adapter, click "Have disk"

> and use the downloaded driver.

> Ben

 

That's the process I used that caused WIN to upchuck. It installed

the driver, but when I restarted the computer normally to have WIN

complete the install, I got that 'windows damage' message. Switched

drivers and stopped getting the message, but lot of instability. Went

into msconfig - Sys.ini and found several of the components of that

Lenovo drive were still getting started, Unchecked them, rebooted and

stability returned, but the fixed 16 color and the 640X480 pixel

settings were still there.

 

Went in to Device manager and specified the Monitor as a Laptop

Display Panel (1024X768), that seemd to crisp a few things up. Either

that, or my eyes are getting used to the fuzz. It's becoming an

acquired taste. Still can't adjust the color or pixel settings.

 

While in Device Manager, realized I've also lost the Touch Point

device. Guess Gateway didn't provide the drivers or recognition for

that device in their OEM rendering of 98SE. Not a big deal, as long

as the mouse works, just another puzzle to solve. Sure beats

crosswords.

[Guest Ben Myers]

Re: Gateway desktop OEM SE on IBM Laptop - display compatability issues!

 

"Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message news:effdd1c7-2df8-4bca-9469-0ab64f1fa97d@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

>That's the process I used that caused WIN to upchuck. It installed

>the driver, but when I restarted the computer normally to have WIN

>complete the install, I got that 'windows damage' message. Switched

>drivers and stopped getting the message, but lot of instability. Went

>into msconfig - Sys.ini and found several of the components of that

>Lenovo drive were still getting started, Unchecked them, rebooted and

>stability returned, but the fixed 16 color and the 640X480 pixel

>settings were still there.

>Went in to Device manager and specified the Monitor as a Laptop

>Display Panel (1024X768), that seemd to crisp a few things up. Either

>that, or my eyes are getting used to the fuzz. It's becoming an

>acquired taste. Still can't adjust the color or pixel settings.

>While in Device Manager, realized I've also lost the Touch Point

>device. Guess Gateway didn't provide the drivers or recognition for

>that device in their OEM rendering of 98SE. Not a big deal, as long

>as the mouse works, just another puzzle to solve. Sure beats

>crosswords.

 

If you mean Track Point device, see

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=DSHY-3PWQT4

 

Ben