Guest Scott Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for Acronis image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows 2000 system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it looks for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). Is there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on a Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, just a standard USB 2.0 cable. Thanks! Scott
Guest philo Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... > I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for Acronis > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows 2000 > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it looks > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). Is > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on a > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, just a > standard USB 2.0 cable. > > Thanks! > Scott If the drive is NTFS...win98 will not be able to read it even if win98 drivers were avail for the device
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver You're just muddying the waters. The drive still needs to be recognized and drivers installed. It needs to appear as a hard drive in Device Manager, whether it's formatted NTFS, FAT32 or any other file system. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message news:%23TJtGMZSIHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... >> I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for Acronis >> image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows >> 2000 >> system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it > looks >> for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). Is >> there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on a >> Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, just > a >> standard USB 2.0 cable. >> >> Thanks! >> Scott > > If the drive is NTFS...win98 will not be able to read it even if win98 > drivers were avail for the device > >
Guest philo Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:u$dDadZSIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > You're just muddying the waters. The drive still needs to be recognized and > drivers installed. It needs to appear as a hard drive in Device Manager, > whether it's formatted NTFS, FAT32 or any other file system. > Nope, not at all. If the drive is NTFS...it would be *totally* senseless to try to install it on a Win98 machine as no data could be read.
Guest AlmostBob Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver Google is your friend: there are utilities to let win 98 read ntfs drives and as many more mass storage drivers -- -- -- -- -- -- Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de spybot http://www.safer-networking.org AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/ Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com Panda online AntiSpyware Scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2) http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387 Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters _ "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message news:%23hj6FjZSIHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:u$dDadZSIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > You're just muddying the waters. The drive still needs to be recognized > and > > drivers installed. It needs to appear as a hard drive in Device Manager, > > whether it's formatted NTFS, FAT32 or any other file system. > > > > Nope, not at all. > If the drive is NTFS...it would be *totally* senseless to try to install it > on a Win98 machine > as no data could be read. > >
Guest Scott Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver philo wrote: > > "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... > > I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for Acronis > > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows 2000 > > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it > looks > > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). Is > > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on a > > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, just > a > > standard USB 2.0 cable. > > > > Thanks! > > Scott > > If the drive is NTFS...win98 will not be able to read it even if win98 > drivers were avail for the device philo, Oops, I should have explained that I partitioned the external drive into two sections...one is NTFS for my Win XP machines. The second partition is FAT 32, specifically for my Win 98 machines. If there's a driver that will let my Win98 system see the FAT32 portion of the drive, then I'm in business. Any ideas? Thanks! Scott
Guest Scott Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver AlmostBob wrote: > > Google is your friend: > there are utilities to let win 98 read ntfs drives > and as many more mass storage drivers > > -- > -- -- -- -- -- > Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de > spybot http://www.safer-networking.org > AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/ > Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan > http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx > Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ > Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com > Panda online AntiSpyware Scan > http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ > Catalog of removal tools (1) > http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ > Catalog of removal tools (2) > http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387 > Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ > Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm > links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before > use > Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters > _ > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:%23hj6FjZSIHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > news:u$dDadZSIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > You're just muddying the waters. The drive still needs to be recognized > > and > > > drivers installed. It needs to appear as a hard drive in Device Manager, > > > whether it's formatted NTFS, FAT32 or any other file system. > > > > > > > Nope, not at all. > > If the drive is NTFS...it would be *totally* senseless to try to install > it > > on a Win98 machine > > as no data could be read. > > > > Any idea which mass storage driver to look for? Scott
Guest Bob Harris Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver The win98 drivers usually come from the device manufacturer, in this case Western Digital. However, you might have another option: Acronis True Image can be run from a bootable CD, which it will create for you. This CD is useful when you are attempting to restore the parition containing the operating system, or in case you need to replace the internal hard drive. But, it can also be used to get around any win98 limitations for creating a image. The CD runs a flavor of LINUX, and has both read and write capability for NTFS file systems. (I have personally tested this for verison 8 of True Image; I assume that any newer version also has this ability.) Just plug the USB drive into the PC, insert the Acronis CD, then reboot. (If it boots directly into win98, reboot and change the BIOS setup to boot from CD before hard drive.) True Image is very good about showing all hard drives, and all recognizeable partitions. Just be aware that some of the higher drive letter designations (D:, E:, F:, etc) may be slightly different than you see within windows, although "C:\" always seems to be C:\. Look at the size of the partitions and their format to help determine which is which. "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... >I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for Acronis > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows 2000 > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it > looks > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). Is > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on a > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, just > a > standard USB 2.0 cable. > > Thanks! > Scott
Guest AlmostBob Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver wd have drivers for external drives in win98 at the support downloads tab -- -- -- -- -- -- Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de spybot http://www.safer-networking.org AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/ Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com Panda online AntiSpyware Scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2) http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387 Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters _ "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message news:477591CB.FFDA5ACC@uslink.net... > > > AlmostBob wrote: > > > > Google is your friend: > > there are utilities to let win 98 read ntfs drives > > and as many more mass storage drivers > > > > -- > > -- -- -- -- -- > > Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de > > spybot http://www.safer-networking.org > > AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/ > > Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan > > http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx > > Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ > > Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com > > Panda online AntiSpyware Scan > > http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ > > Catalog of removal tools (1) > > http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ > > Catalog of removal tools (2) > > http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387 > > Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ > > Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm > > links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before > > use > > Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters > > _ > > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message > > news:%23hj6FjZSIHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > > news:u$dDadZSIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > You're just muddying the waters. The drive still needs to be recognized > > > and > > > > drivers installed. It needs to appear as a hard drive in Device Manager, > > > > whether it's formatted NTFS, FAT32 or any other file system. > > > > > > > > > > Nope, not at all. > > > If the drive is NTFS...it would be *totally* senseless to try to install > > it > > > on a Win98 machine > > > as no data could be read. > > > > > > > > Any idea which mass storage driver to look for? > > Scott
Guest philo Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message news:4775919A.CA707F5A@uslink.net... > > > philo wrote: > > > > "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > > news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... > > > I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for Acronis > > > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows 2000 > > > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it > > looks > > > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). Is > > > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on a > > > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, just > > a > > > standard USB 2.0 cable. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Scott > > > > If the drive is NTFS...win98 will not be able to read it even if win98 > > drivers were avail for the device > > philo, > > Oops, I should have explained that I partitioned the external drive into two > sections...one is NTFS for my Win XP machines. The second partition is FAT 32, > specifically for my Win 98 machines. If there's a driver that will let my > Win98 system see the FAT32 portion of the drive, then I'm in business. Any > ideas? > > Thanks! > Scott Ok, now that it's been established the drive has fat32 on it...it's worth proceeding. Did you check the device mfg's website to see if they have a driver for win98??? If they do...you're in luck.
Guest Scott Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver Bob Harris wrote: > > The win98 drivers usually come from the device manufacturer, in this case > Western Digital. > > However, you might have another option: Acronis True Image can be run from > a bootable CD, which it will create for you. This CD is useful when you are > attempting to restore the parition containing the operating system, or in > case you need to replace the internal hard drive. But, it can also be used > to get around any win98 limitations for creating a image. The CD runs a > flavor of LINUX, and has both read and write capability for NTFS file > systems. (I have personally tested this for verison 8 of True Image; I > assume that any newer version also has this ability.) Just plug the USB > drive into the PC, insert the Acronis CD, then reboot. (If it boots > directly into win98, reboot and change the BIOS setup to boot from CD before > hard drive.) True Image is very good about showing all hard drives, and all > recognizeable partitions. Just be aware that some of the higher drive > letter designations (D:, E:, F:, etc) may be slightly different than you see > within windows, although "C:\" always seems to be C:\. Look at the size of > the partitions and their format to help determine which is which. > > "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... > >I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for Acronis > > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows 2000 > > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it > > looks > > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). Is > > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on a > > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, just > > a > > standard USB 2.0 cable. > > > > Thanks! > > Scott Bob, Of course!! I can't believe I was so dumb! I have Acronis v.8, and I've used the bootable Win98 CD many times to restore an image. You reminded me that it can also create an image. I just plugged in the WD My Book external drive, booted to the CD, and it's now creating an image to the external drive on the FAT32 partition (which it sees just fine). It works like a charm. Bob, you're a genius!! Happy New Year!! Thanks again! Scott
Guest Scott Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver philo wrote: > > "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > news:4775919A.CA707F5A@uslink.net... > > > > > > philo wrote: > > > > > > "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > > > news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... > > > > I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for > Acronis > > > > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows > 2000 > > > > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it > > > looks > > > > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). > Is > > > > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on > a > > > > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, > just > > > a > > > > standard USB 2.0 cable. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Scott > > > > > > If the drive is NTFS...win98 will not be able to read it even if win98 > > > drivers were avail for the device > > > > philo, > > > > Oops, I should have explained that I partitioned the external drive into > two > > sections...one is NTFS for my Win XP machines. The second partition is FAT > 32, > > specifically for my Win 98 machines. If there's a driver that will let my > > Win98 system see the FAT32 portion of the drive, then I'm in business. > Any > > ideas? > > > > Thanks! > > Scott > > Ok, now that it's been established the drive has fat32 on it...it's worth > proceeding. > Did you check the device mfg's website to see if they have a driver for > win98??? > > If they do...you're in luck. philo, I found the correct Win98SE driver for this model on Western Digital's site. I ran setup and installed it, but it still doesn't see the drive (the FAT32 partition). However, the problem was solved, thanks to Bob Harris's post below. Thanks for your input. Scott
Guest philo Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver > > > > Ok, now that it's been established the drive has fat32 on it...it's worth > > proceeding. > > Did you check the device mfg's website to see if they have a driver for > > win98??? > > > > If they do...you're in luck. > > philo, > > I found the correct Win98SE driver for this model on Western Digital's site. I > ran setup and installed it, but it still doesn't see the drive (the FAT32 partition). > However, the problem was solved, thanks to Bob Harris's post below. > > Thanks for your input. > Scott Glad you got it all worked out. I also use Acronis and as mentioned... with multiple drives and partitions...the bootable CD sees the configuration differently than when used from within the OS
Guest Lil' Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message news:4775CFFD.DAE27A18@uslink.net... > > > Bob Harris wrote: >> >> The win98 drivers usually come from the device manufacturer, in this case >> Western Digital. >> >> However, you might have another option: Acronis True Image can be run >> from >> a bootable CD, which it will create for you. This CD is useful when you >> are >> attempting to restore the parition containing the operating system, or in >> case you need to replace the internal hard drive. But, it can also be >> used >> to get around any win98 limitations for creating a image. The CD runs a >> flavor of LINUX, and has both read and write capability for NTFS file >> systems. (I have personally tested this for verison 8 of True Image; I >> assume that any newer version also has this ability.) Just plug the USB >> drive into the PC, insert the Acronis CD, then reboot. (If it boots >> directly into win98, reboot and change the BIOS setup to boot from CD >> before >> hard drive.) True Image is very good about showing all hard drives, and >> all >> recognizeable partitions. Just be aware that some of the higher drive >> letter designations (D:, E:, F:, etc) may be slightly different than you >> see >> within windows, although "C:\" always seems to be C:\. Look at the size >> of >> the partitions and their format to help determine which is which. >> >> "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message >> news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... >> >I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for >> >Acronis >> > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows >> > 2000 >> > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it >> > looks >> > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). >> > Is >> > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on >> > a >> > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, >> > just >> > a >> > standard USB 2.0 cable. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > Scott > > Bob, > > Of course!! I can't believe I was so dumb! I have Acronis v.8, and I've > used the > bootable Win98 CD many times to restore an image. You reminded me that it > can > also create an image. I just plugged in the WD My Book external drive, > booted to > the CD, and it's now creating an image to the external drive on the FAT32 > partition > (which it sees just fine). It works like a charm. Bob, you're a genius!! > Happy > New Year!! > > Thanks again! > Scott Glad you're satisfied. However, I believe you said the problem was with 98SE not seeing any partitions on the USB hard drive. Not writing a image file to that partition with Acronis. Old drive image 2002 could write to NTFS or FAT/FAT32 partitions an image file either in 98, or from its boot media. It could not see USB or Firewire drives though without aid of a windows environment to see such. Install of DI 2002 did not allow windows explorer to "see" NTFS partitions. Only under the DI 2002 application. Dave
Guest Scott Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 Re: External Hard Drive Driver Lil' Dave wrote: > > "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > news:4775CFFD.DAE27A18@uslink.net... > > > > > > Bob Harris wrote: > >> > >> The win98 drivers usually come from the device manufacturer, in this case > >> Western Digital. > >> > >> However, you might have another option: Acronis True Image can be run > >> from > >> a bootable CD, which it will create for you. This CD is useful when you > >> are > >> attempting to restore the parition containing the operating system, or in > >> case you need to replace the internal hard drive. But, it can also be > >> used > >> to get around any win98 limitations for creating a image. The CD runs a > >> flavor of LINUX, and has both read and write capability for NTFS file > >> systems. (I have personally tested this for verison 8 of True Image; I > >> assume that any newer version also has this ability.) Just plug the USB > >> drive into the PC, insert the Acronis CD, then reboot. (If it boots > >> directly into win98, reboot and change the BIOS setup to boot from CD > >> before > >> hard drive.) True Image is very good about showing all hard drives, and > >> all > >> recognizeable partitions. Just be aware that some of the higher drive > >> letter designations (D:, E:, F:, etc) may be slightly different than you > >> see > >> within windows, although "C:\" always seems to be C:\. Look at the size > >> of > >> the partitions and their format to help determine which is which. > >> > >> "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message > >> news:47755121.71EDF3D1@uslink.net... > >> >I have a 500GB Western Digital external hard drive that I use for > >> >Acronis > >> > image backups for my various systems. The drive is set up for Windows > >> > 2000 > >> > system and above. When I connect it via USB to my Win 98SE machine, it > >> > looks > >> > for driver, but can't locate one. (none came with the external drive). > >> > Is > >> > there any way to find a driver that will allow me to use this drive on > >> > a > >> > Win 98 machine? There's no special software on this external drive, > >> > just > >> > a > >> > standard USB 2.0 cable. > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > Scott > > > > Bob, > > > > Of course!! I can't believe I was so dumb! I have Acronis v.8, and I've > > used the > > bootable Win98 CD many times to restore an image. You reminded me that it > > can > > also create an image. I just plugged in the WD My Book external drive, > > booted to > > the CD, and it's now creating an image to the external drive on the FAT32 > > partition > > (which it sees just fine). It works like a charm. Bob, you're a genius!! > > Happy > > New Year!! > > > > Thanks again! > > Scott > > Glad you're satisfied. However, I believe you said the problem was with > 98SE not seeing any partitions on the USB hard drive. Not writing a image > file to that partition with Acronis. > > Old drive image 2002 could write to NTFS or FAT/FAT32 partitions an image > file either in 98, or from its boot media. It could not see USB or Firewire > drives though without aid of a windows environment to see such. Install of > DI 2002 did not allow windows explorer to "see" NTFS partitions. Only under > the DI 2002 application. > > Dave Dave, Any idea why the Win98SE driver for the WD My Book external drive, which I got from Western Digital's website, wouldn't let me see the FAT32 partition on the external drive from My Computer? It seems pretty straightfoward. Thanks! Scott
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