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Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

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>> > "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

>> > news:5tlqaaF1e3mk8U1@mid.individual.net...

>> >> I'm using a P166 that was in an earlier thread as a test machine.

>> >> I have connected a series of used small hard drives to check their

>> >> status.

>> >> When sucessful, first get Setup screen, auto detect the hard

>> >> drive,

>

>> > then

>> >> reboot with a W98 boot disk, fdisk, then format.

>> >> Having success with 4 different drives, the motherboard, power

> cable,

>> >> data cable all are OK.

>> >> But 2 drives gave initially 1782 Disk Controller Failure.

>> >> I searched, find that if above items are ok, maybe the

>> >> master/slave

>

>> >> setting may cause this error.

>> >> One drive had a diagram, so it gave the error when set for Master.

>> >> The other, Western Digital 31000, saved a data page but not sure

>> >> of

>

>> > the

>> >> diagram for the plug.

>> >> Is it likely that both drives are defective from the above data?

>> "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

>> > Try the drives on a known good computer

>> > If this is the Compaq 8702, the diagnostic utility may be helpful.

>> > ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp02001-02500/sp2141.exe

>

>> Thanks, Ben,

>> That Compaq utility is the one you recommended before, when I see the

> A

>> drive, it does allow configuring the BIOS for the drive, I used it on

>> several drives that were FAT-32 in this machine.

>> But it seems the 3 problem drives can only be tried on a NT type

> machine,

>

> NTFS, FAT32 and FAT are file systems, not computer types.

> The "NTDLR is missing" message you are receiving is being generated by

> a NT style boot loader on the disks themselves.

>

>> I have one but it's not handy for this, and my intent is for these

> drives

>> to be used in a W98 machine. So if they check out as NT drives, it

> does

>> not get me FAT-32.

>

> The "NTDLR is missing" message does not necessarily mean there are

> NTFS partitions on the drive. Use the Windows 98 version of fdisk to

> examine them.

>

>> When these drives hook to either a DOS or W98 machine, I can't see

>> the

> A

>> drive due to the NTLDR error message.

>

> Try creating a fresh Windows 98 boot floppy and make sure the boot

> sequence is correct. Don't forget to save any changes to the BIOS

> setup.

>

> http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

>

>> IMO, I just need to see the A drive so I can wipe the drives, then

>> proceed.

>

> If there are NTFS partitions and the Windows 98 version of fdisk won't

> delete them, see

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/103049

>

> Ben

>

Thanks, Ben. Will post back.

 

ms

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Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

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>> > then

>> >> reboot with a W98 boot disk, fdisk, then format.

>> >> Having success with 4 different drives, the motherboard, power

> cable,

>> >> data cable all are OK.

>> >> But 2 drives gave initially 1782 Disk Controller Failure.

>> >> I searched, find that if above items are ok, maybe the

>> >> master/slave

>

>> >> setting may cause this error.

>> >> One drive had a diagram, so it gave the error when set for Master.

>> >> The other, Western Digital 31000, saved a data page but not sure

>> >> of

>

>> > the

>> >> diagram for the plug.

>> >> Is it likely that both drives are defective from the above data?

>> "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

>> > Try the drives on a known good computer

>> > If this is the Compaq 8702, the diagnostic utility may be helpful.

>> > ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp02001-02500/sp2141.exe

>

>> Thanks, Ben,

>> That Compaq utility is the one you recommended before, when I see the

> A

>> drive, it does allow configuring the BIOS for the drive, I used it on

>> several drives that were FAT-32 in this machine.

>> But it seems the 3 problem drives can only be tried on a NT type

> machine,

>

> NTFS, FAT32 and FAT are file systems, not computer types.

> The "NTDLR is missing" message you are receiving is being generated by

> a NT style boot loader on the disks themselves.

>

>> I have one but it's not handy for this, and my intent is for these

> drives

>> to be used in a W98 machine. So if they check out as NT drives, it

> does

>> not get me FAT-32.

>

> The "NTDLR is missing" message does not necessarily mean there are

> NTFS partitions on the drive. Use the Windows 98 version of fdisk to

> examine them.

>

>> When these drives hook to either a DOS or W98 machine, I can't see

>> the

> A

>> drive due to the NTLDR error message.

>

> Try creating a fresh Windows 98 boot floppy and make sure the boot

> sequence is correct. Don't forget to save any changes to the BIOS

> setup.

>

> http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

>

>> IMO, I just need to see the A drive so I can wipe the drives, then

>> proceed.

>

> If there are NTFS partitions and the Windows 98 version of fdisk won't

> delete them, see

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/103049

>

> Ben

 

Earlier in thread, I used a W98 boot disk from IIRC, your earlier advice.

 

I got another W98SE w/o ram drive boot disk again, this time much better

results. A puzzle there, they should have been the same boot disk.

 

2 of the 3 problem drives showed A, I was able to fisk and format, one

will replace a smaller hard drive for use with a old DOS game.

 

The third drive was 15 GB, would be useful, but this one shows:

1790- Disk 0 error. Believe that is a bad drive. Is there anything I can

do to check that drive out? Would have to get past that screen.

 

Thanks for the help, salvaged 2 small drives.

 

ms

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:5u500hF1fesm0U1@mid.individual.net...

> Earlier in thread, I used a W98 boot disk from IIRC, your earlier advice.

> I got another W98SE w/o ram drive boot disk again, this time much better

> results. A puzzle there, they should have been the same boot disk.

 

Sounds like the boot sector was overwritten. Try a virus scan on it.

> 2 of the 3 problem drives showed A, I was able to fisk and format, one

> will replace a smaller hard drive for use with a old DOS game.

> The third drive was 15 GB, would be useful, but this one shows:

> 1790- Disk 0 error. Believe that is a bad drive. Is there anything I can

> do to check that drive out? Would have to get past that screen.

 

The 8702 originally shipped with a 2.5 gigabyte drive, so its BIOS may

not be able to handle a 15 gigabyte. The support site doesn't show a

BIOS update to help with this, so the only way to use the drive at its

full capacity in this computer would probably be a drive overlay program

from the drive's manufacturer. Also, try hitting F1 to get past the error

message.

 

Maxtor and Seagate http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/

Western Digital http://support.wdc.com/download/dlg/dlg11_dos.exe

 

Ben

Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

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> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:5u500hF1fesm0U1@mid.individual.net...

>> Earlier in thread, I used a W98 boot disk from IIRC, your earlier

> advice.

>> I got another W98SE w/o ram drive boot disk again, this time much

> better

>> results. A puzzle there, they should have been the same boot disk.

>

> Sounds like the boot sector was overwritten. Try a virus scan on it.

>

>> 2 of the 3 problem drives showed A, I was able to fisk and format,

>> one

>

>> will replace a smaller hard drive for use with a old DOS game.

>> The third drive was 15 GB, would be useful, but this one shows:

>> 1790- Disk 0 error. Believe that is a bad drive. Is there anything I

> can

>> do to check that drive out? Would have to get past that screen.

>

> The 8702 originally shipped with a 2.5 gigabyte drive, so its BIOS may

> not be able to handle a 15 gigabyte. The support site doesn't show a

> BIOS update to help with this, so the only way to use the drive at its

> full capacity in this computer would probably be a drive overlay

> program from the drive's manufacturer. Also, try hitting F1 to get

> past the error message.

>

> Maxtor and Seagate http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/

> Western Digital http://support.wdc.com/download/dlg/dlg11_dos.exe

>

> Ben

 

This drive would be for another computer, just want to test it in the

P166, but your comment applies.

 

Your link to a WD boot disk led to a different boot disk than before,

this one is ver. 11.0, and repeating F1 got it past the error screen.

 

The message: starting Caldera DR-DOS, then just a blinking cursor. The

floppy drive continues to read, but nothing beyond that.

 

Comment?

 

ms

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:5u77lgF1gjvmvU1@mid.individual.net...

> This drive would be for another computer, just want to test it in the

> P166, but your comment applies.

> Your link to a WD boot disk led to a different boot disk than before,

> this one is ver. 11.0, and repeating F1 got it past the error screen.

> The message: starting Caldera DR-DOS, then just a blinking cursor. The

> floppy drive continues to read, but nothing beyond that.

 

Try running the program again using a different floppy. If this doesn't help, try

downloading the file again.

 

http://support.wdc.com/download/dlg/dlg11_dos.exe

 

Also, please note that you will probably have to repeat this procedure with the

other computer when you transfer the drive.

 

Ben

Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

news:e3F1DyvTIHA.4768@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:5u77lgF1gjvmvU1@mid.individual.net...

>> This drive would be for another computer, just want to test it in the

>> P166, but your comment applies.

>> Your link to a WD boot disk led to a different boot disk than before,

>> this one is ver. 11.0, and repeating F1 got it past the error screen.

>> The message: starting Caldera DR-DOS, then just a blinking cursor.

>> The

>

>> floppy drive continues to read, but nothing beyond that.

>

> Try running the program again using a different floppy. If this

> doesn't help, try downloading the file again.

>

> http://support.wdc.com/download/dlg/dlg11_dos.exe

>

> Also, please note that you will probably have to repeat this procedure

> with the other computer when you transfer the drive.

>

> Ben

 

A new download and rewriting a new floppy, result is the same.

 

I then tried the Compaq diagnostic boot disk, with repeated F1, I get

past the 1790 message. but then just a blinking cursor and a F1- boot

screen (normal for the Compaq disk), and the floppy drive continues to

read.

 

I then put in a W98 boot disk, hit F1, it rebooted, F1 again to get past

the error message, get the "NTLDR is missing" message, F1, just a

blinking cursor and floppy drive reads.

 

The different floppy disks read normally in another computer.

 

I have not yet with this drive been able to read the Compaq disk and

detect this drive (or attempt to) in the BIOS, as I did with the others.

 

The hard drive is still the 15 GB one you suggested the BIOS may not

handle. As discussed earlier, the "NTLDR is missing" suggests it is

starting to read the hard drive?

 

ms

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:5u7qhcF1gkhphU1@mid.individual.net...

> A new download and rewriting a new floppy, result is the same.

> I then tried the Compaq diagnostic boot disk, with repeated F1, I get

> past the 1790 message. but then just a blinking cursor and a F1- boot

> screen (normal for the Compaq disk), and the floppy drive continues to

> read.

> I then put in a W98 boot disk, hit F1, it rebooted, F1 again to get past

> the error message, get the "NTLDR is missing" message, F1, just a

> blinking cursor and floppy drive reads.

> The different floppy disks read normally in another computer.

> I have not yet with this drive been able to read the Compaq disk and

> detect this drive (or attempt to) in the BIOS, as I did with the others.

> The hard drive is still the 15 GB one you suggested the BIOS may not

> handle. As discussed earlier, the "NTLDR is missing" suggests it is

> starting to read the hard drive?

 

You might consider installing the drive in the other computer, since it

might work just fine. If you want to keep going with this one, check

the drive or its documentation to see if there is some way to use the

disk at a reduced capacity, such as 8 gigabytes. You also might try

disconnecting the drive, then going into the BIOS setup and setting

the drive parameters manually. If the BIOS won't accept the drive's

parameters, try using the largest parameters allowable. Then

reconnect the drive. Please note that even if you get the drive working,

you may have to go through all of this again on the other computer.

Also, the "NTLDR is missing" message is probably coming from a

floppy disk with a corrupt boot sector.

 

Ben

Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

news:em1jhu3TIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:5u7qhcF1gkhphU1@mid.individual.net...

>> A new download and rewriting a new floppy, result is the same.

>> I then tried the Compaq diagnostic boot disk, with repeated F1, I get

>> past the 1790 message. but then just a blinking cursor and a F1- boot

>> screen (normal for the Compaq disk), and the floppy drive continues

>> to

>

>> read.

>> I then put in a W98 boot disk, hit F1, it rebooted, F1 again to get

> past

>> the error message, get the "NTLDR is missing" message, F1, just a

>> blinking cursor and floppy drive reads.

>> The different floppy disks read normally in another computer.

>> I have not yet with this drive been able to read the Compaq disk and

>> detect this drive (or attempt to) in the BIOS, as I did with the

> others.

>> The hard drive is still the 15 GB one you suggested the BIOS may not

>> handle. As discussed earlier, the "NTLDR is missing" suggests it is

>> starting to read the hard drive?

>

> You might consider installing the drive in the other computer, since

> it might work just fine. If you want to keep going with this one,

> check the drive or its documentation to see if there is some way to

> use the disk at a reduced capacity, such as 8 gigabytes. You also

> might try disconnecting the drive, then going into the BIOS setup and

> setting the drive parameters manually. If the BIOS won't accept the

> drive's parameters, try using the largest parameters allowable. Then

> reconnect the drive. Please note that even if you get the drive

> working, you may have to go through all of this again on the other

> computer. Also, the "NTLDR is missing" message is probably coming from

> a floppy disk with a corrupt boot sector.

>

> Ben

 

I used the floppy to boot up a W98 computer, it worked fine, suggest the

boot sector is OK.

 

I will try as you suggest above, if success, will post back, if not, will

close this long thread, and later try the drive in another machine.

 

Thanks very much for the help.

 

ms

Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

news:em1jhu3TIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:5u7qhcF1gkhphU1@mid.individual.net...

>> A new download and rewriting a new floppy, result is the same.

>> I then tried the Compaq diagnostic boot disk, with repeated F1, I get

>> past the 1790 message. but then just a blinking cursor and a F1- boot

>> screen (normal for the Compaq disk), and the floppy drive continues

>> to

>

>> read.

>> I then put in a W98 boot disk, hit F1, it rebooted, F1 again to get

> past

>> the error message, get the "NTLDR is missing" message, F1, just a

>> blinking cursor and floppy drive reads.

>> The different floppy disks read normally in another computer.

>> I have not yet with this drive been able to read the Compaq disk and

>> detect this drive (or attempt to) in the BIOS, as I did with the

> others.

>> The hard drive is still the 15 GB one you suggested the BIOS may not

>> handle. As discussed earlier, the "NTLDR is missing" suggests it is

>> starting to read the hard drive?

>

> You might consider installing the drive in the other computer, since

> it might work just fine. If you want to keep going with this one,

> check the drive or its documentation to see if there is some way to

> use the disk at a reduced capacity, such as 8 gigabytes. You also

> might try disconnecting the drive, then going into the BIOS setup and

> setting the drive parameters manually. If the BIOS won't accept the

> drive's parameters, try using the largest parameters allowable. Then

> reconnect the drive. Please note that even if you get the drive

> working, you may have to go through all of this again on the other

> computer. Also, the "NTLDR is missing" message is probably coming from

> a floppy disk with a corrupt boot sector.

>

> Ben

 

Ben

 

Just a followup. I disconnected the hard drive, booted with the Compaq

diag disk. First a F1 screen, save settings, I said yes, it rebooted, I

get "NTLDR is missing" message.

 

The floppy does not give this message in another computer, I had created

it in a NT type computer. The P166 had W95 when I got it used, the Compaq

site says it had that, so where is that messge being generated in the

machine, with no hard drive, and IMO not from a bad floppy?

 

Comment?

 

ms

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:5ufkqlF1hb8stU1@mid.individual.net...

> Just a followup. I disconnected the hard drive, booted with the Compaq

> diag disk. First a F1 screen, save settings, I said yes, it rebooted, I

> get "NTLDR is missing" message.

> The floppy does not give this message in another computer, I had created

> it in a NT type computer. The P166 had W95 when I got it used, the Compaq

> site says it had that, so where is that messge being generated in the

> machine, with no hard drive, and IMO not from a bad floppy?

 

If you still have the unmodified floppy, try it on another computer now.

Note that simply reading the floppy's files and folders is not the same

as booting from the floppy. If you get something other than "NTLDR

is missing" when booting from the floppy, please repost with the details.

Also, as I'm sure you already know, the downloads at the Compaq

support site are programs that you download and run on a working

computer and will not work is you simply copy them to a floppy.

 

Ben

Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

news:ud$ShYgUIHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:5ufkqlF1hb8stU1@mid.individual.net...

>> Just a followup. I disconnected the hard drive, booted with the

>> Compaq

>

>> diag disk. First a F1 screen, save settings, I said yes, it rebooted,

> I

>> get "NTLDR is missing" message.

>> The floppy does not give this message in another computer, I had

> created

>> it in a NT type computer. The P166 had W95 when I got it used, the

> Compaq

>> site says it had that, so where is that messge being generated in the

>> machine, with no hard drive, and IMO not from a bad floppy?

>

> If you still have the unmodified floppy, try it on another computer

> now. Note that simply reading the floppy's files and folders is not

> the same as booting from the floppy. If you get something other than

> "NTLDR is missing" when booting from the floppy, please repost with

> the details.

 

On bootup in a W98 computer, it has enough normal boot files that I get a

normal screen, the W98 Startup Menu that I had set up in that machine.

 

Also, as I'm sure you already know, the downloads at the

> Compaq support site are programs that you download and run on a

> working computer and will not work is you simply copy them to a

> floppy.

>

Right. I run the boot disk setup file, write to a disk formatted as FAT-

32 in a W2K computer. I have used boot disks created in this manner in

W98 and DOS computers with no NTLDR messages. It appears the initial disk

format by a NT type OS does not cause problems.

 

So the resultant Compaq boot disk seems OK, only produces the "NTLDR is

missing" when booting this P166 with no hard drive. That was the only

hard drive in that machine. I will later put a more compatible hard drive

on this machine.

 

I don't understand the results.

 

Comment?

 

ms

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:5uhl0dF1h77o4U1@mid.individual.net...

> On bootup in a W98 computer, it has enough normal boot files that I get a

> normal screen, the W98 Startup Menu that I had set up in that machine.

 

You might be booting from the hard drive. Go into the BIOS setup of this

machine and make sure that the boot sequence is set to "A:, C". Be sure

to save any changes.

> Also, as I'm sure you already know, the downloads at the

> > Compaq support site are programs that you download and run on a

> > working computer and will not work is you simply copy them to a

> > floppy.

> >

> Right. I run the boot disk setup file, write to a disk formatted as FAT-

> 32 in a W2K computer. I have used boot disks created in this manner in

> W98 and DOS computers with no NTLDR messages. It appears the initial disk

> format by a NT type OS does not cause problems.

 

If this is the Compaq sp2141.exe utility, it is my understanding that it rewrites

the entire floppy, including the boot sector.

> So the resultant Compaq boot disk seems OK, only produces the "NTLDR is

> missing" when booting this P166 with no hard drive. That was the only

> hard drive in that machine. I will later put a more compatible hard drive

> on this machine.

 

I don't think you can consider the resultant floppy OK unless it boots a

computer into the Compaq diagnostic screen. The following steps are

apparently necessary for the sp2141.exe:

 

Run the file.

Press Page Down.

Type "AGREE".

Type "a".

Insert the floppy.

Press "Enter".

Confirm in "Status" that all 80 cylinders are written.

 

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp02001-02500/sp2141.exe

 

Ben

Guest dadiOH
Posted

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ms wrote:

> On bootup in a W98 computer, it has enough normal boot files that I

> get a normal screen, the W98 Startup Menu that I had set up in that

> machine.

 

In that case, the floppy isn't being read because that menu is a

function of - ready? - *WINDOWS*. The final result from a boot floppy

is the A: prompt.

 

Either the floppy disc and/or drive and/or cable is/are bad.

 

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Posted

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"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

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> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:5uhl0dF1h77o4U1@mid.individual.net...

>> On bootup in a W98 computer, it has enough normal boot files that I

> get a

>> normal screen, the W98 Startup Menu that I had set up in that

>> machine.

>

> You might be booting from the hard drive. Go into the BIOS setup of

> this machine and make sure that the boot sequence is set to "A:, C".

> Be sure to save any changes.

>

>> Also, as I'm sure you already know, the downloads at the

>> > Compaq support site are programs that you download and run on a

>> > working computer and will not work is you simply copy them to a

>> > floppy.

>> >

>> Right. I run the boot disk setup file, write to a disk formatted as

> FAT-

>> 32 in a W2K computer. I have used boot disks created in this manner

>> in

>

>> W98 and DOS computers with no NTLDR messages. It appears the initial

> disk

>> format by a NT type OS does not cause problems.

>

> If this is the Compaq sp2141.exe utility, it is my understanding that

> it rewrites the entire floppy, including the boot sector.

>

>> So the resultant Compaq boot disk seems OK, only produces the "NTLDR

> is

>> missing" when booting this P166 with no hard drive. That was the only

>> hard drive in that machine. I will later put a more compatible hard

> drive

>> on this machine.

>

> I don't think you can consider the resultant floppy OK unless it boots

> a computer into the Compaq diagnostic screen. The following steps are

> apparently necessary for the sp2141.exe:

>

> Run the file.

> Press Page Down.

> Type "AGREE".

> Type "a".

> Insert the floppy.

> Press "Enter".

> Confirm in "Status" that all 80 cylinders are written.

>

> ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp02001-02500/sp2141.exe

>

> Ben

 

I created a new boot disk. It works, I swapped with a known small hard

drive, got the Compaq setup screen, it had autodetected the smaller hard

drive.

 

I then used a W98SE boot disk, did fdisk/status.

It showed 853 MB, DOS, FAT 16. I deleted, recreated a new logical

partition as FAT-32. I then formatted it.

 

I then ran fdisk/status again, the resulting display is not what I

expected.

 

Disk Drive MB Free Usage %

1 812 100

C 812

 

41 MB less?

 

Is this a normal display for a 100% usage/one partition in FAT-32?

 

I considered starting fdisk over, in the first screen see it is now

FAT-32, active, so left it.

 

A new question if I may, your opinion on W98SE installed on only 812 MB,

with no Outlook Express, etc, minimal installation?

 

Thanks

 

ms

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:5ul6ohF1ichjlU1@mid.individual.net...

> I created a new boot disk. It works, I swapped with a known small hard

> drive, got the Compaq setup screen, it had autodetected the smaller hard

> drive.

> I then used a W98SE boot disk, did fdisk/status.

> It showed 853 MB, DOS, FAT 16. I deleted, recreated a new logical

> partition as FAT-32. I then formatted it.

 

Hopefully, fdisk shows this as "PRI DOS". Logical drives are

typically found in an extended partition.

> I then ran fdisk/status again, the resulting display is not what I

> expected.

> Disk Drive MB Free Usage %

> 1 812 100

> C 812

> 41 MB less?

> Is this a normal display for a 100% usage/one partition in FAT-32?

 

The only way to analyze the difference in disk space is to compare the

details of the two partitions, which can't be done since the original one

has been deleted. FAT32 partitions have a larger boot sector and

a much larger file allocation table, but there may be something else

involved here.

> I considered starting fdisk over, in the first screen see it is now

> FAT-32, active, so left it.

> A new question if I may, your opinion on W98SE installed on only 812 MB,

> with no Outlook Express, etc, minimal installation?

 

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/182751

 

Ben

Posted

Re: 1782- Disk Controller Failure

 

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in

news:#CYjZ04UIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:5ul6ohF1ichjlU1@mid.individual.net...

>> I created a new boot disk. It works, I swapped with a known small

>> hard

>

>> drive, got the Compaq setup screen, it had autodetected the smaller

> hard

>> drive.

>> I then used a W98SE boot disk, did fdisk/status.

>> It showed 853 MB, DOS, FAT 16. I deleted, recreated a new logical

>> partition as FAT-32. I then formatted it.

>

> Hopefully, fdisk shows this as "PRI DOS". Logical drives are

> typically found in an extended partition.

>

>> I then ran fdisk/status again, the resulting display is not what I

>> expected.

>> Disk Drive MB Free Usage %

>> 1 812 100

>> C 812

>> 41 MB less?

>> Is this a normal display for a 100% usage/one partition in FAT-32?

>

> The only way to analyze the difference in disk space is to compare the

> details of the two partitions, which can't be done since the original

> one has been deleted. FAT32 partitions have a larger boot sector and

> a much larger file allocation table, but there may be something else

> involved here.

>

>> I considered starting fdisk over, in the first screen see it is now

>> FAT-32, active, so left it.

>> A new question if I may, your opinion on W98SE installed on only 812

> MB,

>> with no Outlook Express, etc, minimal installation?

>

> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/182751

>

> Ben

>

>

 

Thanks again for the help.

 

ms

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