Guest PCR Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? SANTANDER wrote: | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:%23drcE2YTIHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... ....snip |> [E:\OPTIONS\CABS] |> HH.EXE Updated 5.2.3644.0 6/10/02 5.2.3790.30 |> 4/13/05 No |> |> And the actual current version of that file I have is... |> 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540). I see all of that in the file's Properties in Explorer. |> SO... SFC isn't great with that one! The version number is too big! ....snip | OK, SFC will not help in this case anyway. Just want update hh.exe | with latest version for win98. Its microsoft Windows Help file, it | seems. Where to get latest vers. for win98? I think I must agree with glee on that. At... "START button, Run, QFECheck" ....I can see that HH.exe is included actually with 3 critical updates in the W98 section... UPD323255 UPD811630 UPD896358 They all show a version number of 5.2.3790.309 (but not the rest of what I see in the Properties of that file). The first 2 actually show 6 files apiece, all with that version number. The last shows only 5 of the files, but those 5 also match in version number. It lacks HHCTRLUI.dll (v.5.2.3664.0), which is the only file with a version number different from 5.2.3790.309. I would first go to Windows Update & see what is offered to you there... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
Guest SANTANDER Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:%233QPUSNUIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > SANTANDER wrote: > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > | news:%23drcE2YTIHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > ...snip > |> [E:\OPTIONS\CABS] > |> HH.EXE Updated 5.2.3644.0 6/10/02 5.2.3790.30 > |> 4/13/05 No > |> > |> And the actual current version of that file I have is... > |> 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540). > > I see all of that in the file's Properties in Explorer. > > |> SO... SFC isn't great with that one! The version number is too big! > > ...snip > | OK, SFC will not help in this case anyway. Just want update hh.exe > | with latest version for win98. Its microsoft Windows Help file, it > | seems. Where to get latest vers. for win98? > > I think I must agree with glee on that. At... > > "START button, Run, QFECheck" > > ...I can see that HH.exe is included actually with 3 critical updates in > the W98 section... > > UPD323255 > UPD811630 > UPD896358 > > They all show a version number of 5.2.3790.309 (but not the rest of what > I see in the Properties of that file). The first 2 actually show 6 files > apiece, all with that version number. The last shows only 5 of the > files, but those 5 also match in version number. It lacks HHCTRLUI.dll > (v.5.2.3664.0), which is the only file with a version number different > from 5.2.3790.309. > > I would first go to Windows Update & see what is offered to you there... > http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp --------- I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest updates. I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the actual current version is(3 files in different locations): 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
Guest PCR Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? SANTANDER wrote: | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:%233QPUSNUIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... |> SANTANDER wrote: |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message |> | news:%23drcE2YTIHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> |> ...snip |> |> [E:\OPTIONS\CABS] |> |> HH.EXE Updated 5.2.3644.0 6/10/02 5.2.3790.30 |> |> 4/13/05 No |> |> |> |> And the actual current version of that file I have is... |> |> 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540). |> |> I see all of that in the file's Properties in Explorer. |> |> |> SO... SFC isn't great with that one! The version number is too |> |> big! |> |> ...snip |> | OK, SFC will not help in this case anyway. Just want update hh.exe |> | with latest version for win98. Its microsoft Windows Help file, it |> | seems. Where to get latest vers. for win98? |> |> I think I must agree with glee on that. At... |> |> "START button, Run, QFECheck" |> |> ...I can see that HH.exe is included actually with 3 critical |> updates in the W98 section... |> |> UPD323255 |> UPD811630 |> UPD896358 |> |> They all show a version number of 5.2.3790.309 (but not the rest of |> what I see in the Properties of that file). The first 2 actually |> show 6 files apiece, all with that version number. The last shows |> only 5 of the files, but those 5 also match in version number. It |> lacks HHCTRLUI.dll (v.5.2.3664.0), which is the only file with a |> version number different from 5.2.3790.309. |> |> I would first go to Windows Update & see what is offered to you |> there... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp | --------- | | I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest updates. | I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the actual current | version is(3 files in different locations): | | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS | 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM <--- no good! (says PCR) | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS That looks good-- EXCEPT for the one in ...System\. Rename it to HH.ex_ (that's an underline instead of an "e"). If all goes for 3 years, remember eventually to delete it. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest glee Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:OhawJIXUIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > SANTANDER wrote: > | snip > | I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest updates. > | I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the actual current > | version is(3 files in different locations): > | > | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS > | 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM <--- no good! (says PCR) > | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS > > That looks good-- EXCEPT for the one in ...System\. > Rename it to HH.ex_ (that's an underline instead of an "e"). > If all goes for 3 years, remember eventually to delete it. Right.....there should not even be a copy of hh.exe in the Windows\System folder. As you may see, the version in the Windows directory and in Options\Cabs are newer than the one supplied by the update I mentioned (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811630), which contains version 5.2.3644.0 of hh.exe. So, there was at least one later update that included a newer version of hh.exe, and Santander got it already, through Windows Update. That is why it is always best to get the updates following a scan at the WU site. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
Guest PCR Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? glee wrote: | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:OhawJIXUIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> SANTANDER wrote: |> | snip |> | I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest |> | updates. I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the actual |> | current version is(3 files in different locations): |> | |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS |> | 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM <--- no good! (says PCR) |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS |> |> That looks good-- EXCEPT for the one in ...System\. |> Rename it to HH.ex_ (that's an underline instead of an "e"). |> If all goes for 3 years, remember eventually to delete it. ^... well | | Right.....there should not even be a copy of hh.exe in the | Windows\System folder. Good. Thanks for the confirmation. | As you may see, the version in the Windows directory and in | Options\Cabs are newer than the one supplied by the update I mentioned | (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811630), which contains version | 5.2.3644.0 of hh.exe. So, there was at least one later update that | included a newer version of hh.exe, and Santander got it already, | through Windows Update. OK. That must have been what shows as UPD896358 in QFECheck. After that one came in, the 2 prior updates that involved HH.exe now also seem to indicate they contained that updated version of the file. But it makes sense as you say that they originally had older versions. | That is why it is always best to get the | updates following a scan at the WU site. I agree. Although yesterday & today I am shocked to see Windows Update offer me... Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB916281) ....all over again, I think it may be my own fault somehow. I can see in "IE, About" I already took that. ALSO, I took the later one-- Q918439. And, QFECheck is complaining that UPD918547 is missing its files (KB918547.exe & Q918547.dll). Yet, the files are both in "C:\Windows\System\KB918547", & the .exe is running! And "918547" is mentioned in 12 Registry keys outside of MRU lists! I did do a full system restore recently. But things should have been fine with that. It could be a big in/un-install to blame. I'll get to the bottom of it! -- | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | http://dts-l.net/ | http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest SANTANDER Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:OhawJIXUIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > SANTANDER wrote: > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > | news:%233QPUSNUIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > |> SANTANDER wrote: > |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > |> | news:%23drcE2YTIHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > |> > |> ...snip > |> |> [E:\OPTIONS\CABS] > |> |> HH.EXE Updated 5.2.3644.0 6/10/02 5.2.3790.30 > |> |> 4/13/05 No > |> |> > |> |> And the actual current version of that file I have is... > |> |> 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540). > |> > |> I see all of that in the file's Properties in Explorer. > |> > |> |> SO... SFC isn't great with that one! The version number is too > |> |> big! > |> > |> ...snip > |> | OK, SFC will not help in this case anyway. Just want update hh.exe > |> | with latest version for win98. Its microsoft Windows Help file, it > |> | seems. Where to get latest vers. for win98? > |> > |> I think I must agree with glee on that. At... > |> > |> "START button, Run, QFECheck" > |> > |> ...I can see that HH.exe is included actually with 3 critical > |> updates in the W98 section... > |> > |> UPD323255 > |> UPD811630 > |> UPD896358 > |> > |> They all show a version number of 5.2.3790.309 (but not the rest of > |> what I see in the Properties of that file). The first 2 actually > |> show 6 files apiece, all with that version number. The last shows > |> only 5 of the files, but those 5 also match in version number. It > |> lacks HHCTRLUI.dll (v.5.2.3664.0), which is the only file with a > |> version number different from 5.2.3790.309. > |> > |> I would first go to Windows Update & see what is offered to you > |> there... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp > | --------- > | > | I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest updates. > | I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the actual current > | version is(3 files in different locations): > | > | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS > | 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM <--- no good! (says PCR) > | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS > > That looks good-- EXCEPT for the one in ...System\. > Rename it to HH.ex_ (that's an underline instead of an "e"). > If all goes for 3 years, remember eventually to delete it. > > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net ------------ I renamed Hh.exe to Hh.ex_ in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM I noticed that many CHM files have changed standard icon to another icon, from '1-4a rename'. Some file have normal CHM icon, some CHM files have changed icon to this utility. I just downloaded and tried it once. Something wrong in this utility, it changes a lot of CHM icons. http://www.1-4a.com/rename/download.htm
Guest PCR Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? SANTANDER wrote: | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:OhawJIXUIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> SANTANDER wrote: ....snip |> |> I would first go to Windows Update & see what is offered to you |> |> there... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp |> |> --------- |> | |> | I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest |> | updates. I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the actual |> | current version is(3 files in different locations): |> | |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS |> | 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM <--- no good! (says PCR) |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS |> |> That looks good-- EXCEPT for the one in ...System\. |> Rename it to HH.ex_ (that's an underline instead of an "e"). |> If all goes for 3 years, remember eventually to delete it. ....snip | I renamed Hh.exe to Hh.ex_ in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Very good. That's that, then! (Eventually, for neatness sake, delete the renamed one, though.) | I noticed that many CHM files have changed standard icon to another | icon, from '1-4a rename'. | Some file have normal CHM icon, some CHM files have changed icon to | this utility. I just downloaded and tried it once. Something wrong in | this utility, it changes a lot of CHM icons. | | http://www.1-4a.com/rename/download.htm I doubt that renamer is at fault. I just don't see why it should be. All of my .chm files have a sheet of paper with a big yellow question mark for an icon. At... "START button, Settings, Folder Options, File Types tab" (1) Scroll the list of registered file types for "Compiled HTML Help file". (2) D-Clk that entry. The "Edit File Type" requestor should appear. (3) Click the "Change Icon" button. The "Change Icon" requestor should appear. What shows up in the File Name box? I see... c:\windows\hh.exe .... there. If you are showing "System\" in yours, remove it, & click OK. (4) Back at the "Edit File Type" requestor, D-Clk "open" in the Actions box. What shows up in the "Application used to perform action" box? I see... "c:\windows\hh.exe" ....in mine-- INCLUDING the quotes. You may need to remove "System" from there too. I think that should do it. Alternatively, search the registry for... C:\Windows\System\HH.exe ...., & change each one to... C:\Windows\HH.exe ...., which is mentioned 5 times in my Registry outside of MRU lists. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? PCR wrote: ....snip | And, QFECheck is complaining that UPD918547 is missing its files | (KB918547.exe & Q918547.dll). Yet, the files are both in | "C:\Windows\System\KB918547", & the .exe is running! And "918547" is | mentioned in 12 Registry keys outside of MRU lists! That one was fixed by adjusting the folder name in this Registry key... [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\Upda tes\W98\UPD918547] @="Windows 98 KB918547 Update" "C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\KB918547\\KB918547.EXE"="4.10.0.2224" "C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\KB918547\\Q918547.dll"="4.10.0.2224" ....I THINK I did that once before, but lost it by restoring a full system backup! ....snip -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest SANTANDER Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:unfKdflUIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > SANTANDER wrote: > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > | news:OhawJIXUIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > |> SANTANDER wrote: > > ...snip > |> |> I would first go to Windows Update & see what is offered to you > |> |> there... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp > |> |> --------- > |> | > |> | I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest > |> | updates. I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the actual > |> | current version is(3 files in different locations): > |> | > |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS > |> | 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM <--- no good! (says PCR) > |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS > |> > |> That looks good-- EXCEPT for the one in ...System\. > |> Rename it to HH.ex_ (that's an underline instead of an "e"). > |> If all goes for 3 years, remember eventually to delete it. > > ...snip > | I renamed Hh.exe to Hh.ex_ in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > > Very good. That's that, then! (Eventually, for neatness sake, delete the > renamed one, though.) > > | I noticed that many CHM files have changed standard icon to another > | icon, from '1-4a rename'. > | Some file have normal CHM icon, some CHM files have changed icon to > | this utility. I just downloaded and tried it once. Something wrong in > | this utility, it changes a lot of CHM icons. > | > | http://www.1-4a.com/rename/download.htm > > I doubt that renamer is at fault. I just don't see why it should be. All > of my .chm files have a sheet of paper with a big yellow question mark > for an icon. At... > > "START button, Settings, Folder Options, File Types tab" > > (1) Scroll the list of registered file types for > "Compiled HTML Help file". > (2) D-Clk that entry. > The "Edit File Type" requestor should appear. > (3) Click the "Change Icon" button. > The "Change Icon" requestor should appear. > > What shows up in the File Name box? I see... > > c:\windows\hh.exe > > ... there. If you are showing "System\" in yours, remove it, & click OK. > > (4) Back at the "Edit File Type" requestor, > D-Clk "open" in the Actions box. > > What shows up in the "Application used to perform action" box? I see... > > "c:\windows\hh.exe" > > ...in mine-- INCLUDING the quotes. You may need to remove "System" from > there too. I think that should do it. Alternatively, search the registry > for... > > C:\Windows\System\HH.exe > > ..., & change each one to... > > C:\Windows\HH.exe > > ..., which is mentioned 5 times in my Registry outside of MRU lists. > > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net ----------------- After rebooting all .chm icons are normal. So, it some windows issue, something with refreshing. Does this Hh.ex_ can be removed from C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM? It should not be there by default? Thanks.
Guest PCR Posted January 10, 2008 Posted January 10, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? SANTANDER wrote: | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:unfKdflUIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> SANTANDER wrote: |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message |> | news:OhawJIXUIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> |> SANTANDER wrote: |> |> ...snip |> |> |> I would first go to Windows Update & see what is offered to you |> |> |> there... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp |> |> |> --------- |> |> | |> |> | I have updated windows a long time ago, so it have all latest |> |> | updates. I've checked hh.exe Properties > Version, and the |> |> | actual current version is(3 files in different locations): |> |> | |> |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in C:\WINDOWS |> |> | 4.72.7286 - in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM <--- no good! (says PCR) |> |> | 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - in |> |> | C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS |> |> |> |> That looks good-- EXCEPT for the one in ...System\. |> |> Rename it to HH.ex_ (that's an underline instead of an "e"). |> |> If all goes for 3 years, remember eventually to delete it. |> |> ...snip |> | I renamed Hh.exe to Hh.ex_ in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM |> |> Very good. That's that, then! (Eventually, for neatness sake, delete |> the renamed one, though.) |> |> | I noticed that many CHM files have changed standard icon to another |> | icon, from '1-4a rename'. |> | Some file have normal CHM icon, some CHM files have changed icon to |> | this utility. I just downloaded and tried it once. Something wrong |> | in this utility, it changes a lot of CHM icons. |> | |> | http://www.1-4a.com/rename/download.htm |> |> I doubt that renamer is at fault. I just don't see why it should be. |> All of my .chm files have a sheet of paper with a big yellow |> question mark for an icon. At... |> |> "START button, Settings, Folder Options, File Types tab" |> |> (1) Scroll the list of registered file types for |> "Compiled HTML Help file". |> (2) D-Clk that entry. |> The "Edit File Type" requestor should appear. |> (3) Click the "Change Icon" button. |> The "Change Icon" requestor should appear. |> |> What shows up in the File Name box? I see... |> |> c:\windows\hh.exe |> |> ... there. If you are showing "System\" in yours, remove it, & click |> OK. |> |> (4) Back at the "Edit File Type" requestor, |> D-Clk "open" in the Actions box. |> |> What shows up in the "Application used to perform action" box? I |> see... |> |> "c:\windows\hh.exe" |> |> ...in mine-- INCLUDING the quotes. You may need to remove "System" |> from there too. I think that should do it. Alternatively, search the |> registry for... |> |> C:\Windows\System\HH.exe |> |> ..., & change each one to... |> |> C:\Windows\HH.exe |> |> ..., which is mentioned 5 times in my Registry outside of MRU lists. |> ....snip | ----------------- | | After rebooting all .chm icons are normal. So, it some windows issue, | something with refreshing. All right. I suppose your settings are fine, then. It wouldn't to go & look, though. | Does this Hh.ex_ can be removed from C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM? It should not | be there by default? Yea. Go ahead & delete it. It is obsolete. | Thanks. You are welcome. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted January 13, 2008 Posted January 13, 2008 Re: how to check windows system files integrity? PCR wrote: ....snip | Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 | (KB916281) | | ...all over again, I think it may be my own fault somehow. I can see | in "IE, About" I already took that. ALSO, I took the later one-- | Q918439. Well, that's fixed too. I uninstalled 918439. Then, I over-installed 916281 & reinstalled 918439, both from the Catalog downloads I have. NOW, Windows Update offers nothing as it should! Ah, ha, ha! ....snip -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
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