Scheduled backups fail to start

[Guest Frances Butcher]

We have been using Win Backup on Win Svr 2003 for at least 18months now and

suddenly it is refusing to work. If I run a manual backup it backs up no

problem. However the scheduled backups do not start. No log is generated in

the backup GUI and the very few messages which appear in the event viewer do

not seem applicable. I have rebooted the server and also deleted and

recreated all the scheduled tasks and media but it has made no difference. -

The only clue I have is that if I select properties on any of the tasks then

the following error appears:

>General page initialization failed. The specific error is: 0x80090016:keyset does not exist. An error has occurred attempting to retrieve task account information you may continue editing the task object, but will be unable to change the task ac info.

 

No changes have been made to the system and a similar server on the network

does not give this error. Currently we are on Win Svr 2003 SP1. I have not

tried to upgrade to SP2 yet.

 

Can anyone assist please?

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

 

"Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:3624C5FC-D93B-4046-9F14-BE8D7866B826@microsoft.com...

> We have been using Win Backup on Win Svr 2003 for at least 18months now

> and

> suddenly it is refusing to work. If I run a manual backup it backs up no

> problem. However the scheduled backups do not start. No log is generated

> in

> the backup GUI and the very few messages which appear in the event viewer

> do

> not seem applicable. I have rebooted the server and also deleted and

> recreated all the scheduled tasks and media but it has made no

> difference. -

> The only clue I have is that if I select properties on any of the tasks

> then

> the following error appears:

>>General page initialization failed. The specific error is:

>>0x80090016:keyset does not exist. An error has occurred attempting to

>>retrieve task account information you may continue editing the task

>>object, but will be unable to change the task ac info.

>

> No changes have been made to the system and a similar server on the

> network

> does not give this error. Currently we are on Win Svr 2003 SP1. I have not

> tried to upgrade to SP2 yet.

>

> Can anyone assist please?

 

Your first job should be to establish if the task does start or

not. Even though you think that it does not, I suspect that it

does. Grab the command line from the scheduled task and

insert it into a batch file like so:

 

@echo off

echo The backup job started on %date% at %time%. Account=%UserName% >>

c:\test.log

ntbackup /.. /.. /..

echo The backup job ended on %date% at %time%. >> c:\test.log

echo. >> c:\test.log

 

Now use the Task Scheduler to run this job instead of ntbackup.exe,

then have a look at c:\test.log

 

It would also help if you posted the exact command line you

currently have, and the contents of your .bks file.

[Guest Frances Butcher]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

Hi and thanks for your help.

 

The .bks file contains the following:

C:\

D:\

Systemstate

 

Normally we run and manage the Backups and schedule entirely through the GUI

located in Accessories, System tools, Backup.

When we try to run in a batch file as you suggested then a log is made which

is visible in the Backup GUI.

 

When we run using batch file it seems ok but when i try to run using the

scheduler the '0x80090016: keyset does not exist' message appears again. - I

think message may be the key to the problem.

 

Any more ideas or assistance is definately welcome.

 

Thanks and regards

 

Frances.

 

 

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:3624C5FC-D93B-4046-9F14-BE8D7866B826@microsoft.com...

> > We have been using Win Backup on Win Svr 2003 for at least 18months now

> > and

> > suddenly it is refusing to work. If I run a manual backup it backs up no

> > problem. However the scheduled backups do not start. No log is generated

> > in

> > the backup GUI and the very few messages which appear in the event viewer

> > do

> > not seem applicable. I have rebooted the server and also deleted and

> > recreated all the scheduled tasks and media but it has made no

> > difference. -

> > The only clue I have is that if I select properties on any of the tasks

> > then

> > the following error appears:

> >>General page initialization failed. The specific error is:

> >>0x80090016:keyset does not exist. An error has occurred attempting to

> >>retrieve task account information you may continue editing the task

> >>object, but will be unable to change the task ac info.

> >

> > No changes have been made to the system and a similar server on the

> > network

> > does not give this error. Currently we are on Win Svr 2003 SP1. I have not

> > tried to upgrade to SP2 yet.

> >

> > Can anyone assist please?

>

> Your first job should be to establish if the task does start or

> not. Even though you think that it does not, I suspect that it

> does. Grab the command line from the scheduled task and

> insert it into a batch file like so:

>

> @echo off

> echo The backup job started on %date% at %time%. Account=%UserName% >>

> c:\test.log

> ntbackup /.. /.. /..

> echo The backup job ended on %date% at %time%. >> c:\test.log

> echo. >> c:\test.log

>

> Now use the Task Scheduler to run this job instead of ntbackup.exe,

> then have a look at c:\test.log

>

> It would also help if you posted the exact command line you

> currently have, and the contents of your .bks file.

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

Your reply is inconclusive:

- When you scheduled your backup, did you schedule the ntbackup.exe

command or did you schedule a batch file to run?

- If it is the batch file, what does it look like?

- What is the contents of the log file c:\test.log?

 

"Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:EAE9D8E5-6D03-4CBB-9471-40AAAD3E2D77@microsoft.com...

> Hi and thanks for your help.

>

> The .bks file contains the following:

> C:\

> D:\

> Systemstate

>

> Normally we run and manage the Backups and schedule entirely through the

> GUI

> located in Accessories, System tools, Backup.

> When we try to run in a batch file as you suggested then a log is made

> which

> is visible in the Backup GUI.

>

> When we run using batch file it seems ok but when i try to run using the

> scheduler the '0x80090016: keyset does not exist' message appears again. -

> I

> think message may be the key to the problem.

>

> Any more ideas or assistance is definately welcome.

>

> Thanks and regards

>

> Frances.

>

>

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>>

>> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> message news:3624C5FC-D93B-4046-9F14-BE8D7866B826@microsoft.com...

>> > We have been using Win Backup on Win Svr 2003 for at least 18months now

>> > and

>> > suddenly it is refusing to work. If I run a manual backup it backs up

>> > no

>> > problem. However the scheduled backups do not start. No log is

>> > generated

>> > in

>> > the backup GUI and the very few messages which appear in the event

>> > viewer

>> > do

>> > not seem applicable. I have rebooted the server and also deleted and

>> > recreated all the scheduled tasks and media but it has made no

>> > difference. -

>> > The only clue I have is that if I select properties on any of the tasks

>> > then

>> > the following error appears:

>> >>General page initialization failed. The specific error is:

>> >>0x80090016:keyset does not exist. An error has occurred attempting to

>> >>retrieve task account information you may continue editing the task

>> >>object, but will be unable to change the task ac info.

>> >

>> > No changes have been made to the system and a similar server on the

>> > network

>> > does not give this error. Currently we are on Win Svr 2003 SP1. I have

>> > not

>> > tried to upgrade to SP2 yet.

>> >

>> > Can anyone assist please?

>>

>> Your first job should be to establish if the task does start or

>> not. Even though you think that it does not, I suspect that it

>> does. Grab the command line from the scheduled task and

>> insert it into a batch file like so:

>>

>> @echo off

>> echo The backup job started on %date% at %time%. Account=%UserName% >>

>> c:\test.log

>> ntbackup /.. /.. /..

>> echo The backup job ended on %date% at %time%. >> c:\test.log

>> echo. >> c:\test.log

>>

>> Now use the Task Scheduler to run this job instead of ntbackup.exe,

>> then have a look at c:\test.log

>>

>> It would also help if you posted the exact command line you

>> currently have, and the contents of your .bks file.

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Frances Butcher]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

Sorry this is not something which we have a great deal of experience in.

I am not quite sure what you mean or how we can tell what type of backup is

created by the Backup icon. It creates a job which shows in Accessories,

System tools, scheduled tasks. When I right click and choose properties for

one of the backup tasks, first the error (keyset does not exist) shows and

then in the Run box the details "MON" /l:s /g

"bfdf13a7-555d-43f5-af7d-3fb9dcbaa0a4" show. There is a browse button here

but due to the errors it does not work. When the list of scheduled tasks is

open all the backups have a status of 'Could not start' and Last result of

'0x0'.

Reviewing all the old log files again it seems that the last time the backup

job started correctly was on the 21st Dec. On this date it failed at the

verify stage due to a ....Hardware or media error.... , this is not unusual,

it happens maybe once every two months, so I created a new media and ran the

backup manually. - But I dont think this is connected to the error.

 

The log file C:\test.log says the following:

The backup job started on 07/10/2008 at 16.53.56.88. Account=Administrator

The backup job ended on 07/10/2008 at 16.54.02.18.

 

It says the same message (different times) each time we run it as you

suggested in a batch file.

 

When I try to look at the Application logs for the nights of the 20th

(successful) and 21st (unsucessful), I notice that at the time the backup

failed (during D drive verify stage) the error Event ID 1030, Source Userenv

was logged, followed by error Event ID 1058. Source Userenv -I do not know if

this has any relevance.

 

Beyond this I am afraid we are out of our depth as to finding the reason.

 

Many thanks for your help.

 

Regards

 

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Your reply is inconclusive:

> - When you scheduled your backup, did you schedule the ntbackup.exe

> command or did you schedule a batch file to run?

> - If it is the batch file, what does it look like?

> - What is the contents of the log file c:\test.log?

>

> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:EAE9D8E5-6D03-4CBB-9471-40AAAD3E2D77@microsoft.com...

> > Hi and thanks for your help.

> >

> > The .bks file contains the following:

> > C:\

> > D:\

> > Systemstate

> >

> > Normally we run and manage the Backups and schedule entirely through the

> > GUI

> > located in Accessories, System tools, Backup.

> > When we try to run in a batch file as you suggested then a log is made

> > which

> > is visible in the Backup GUI.

> >

> > When we run using batch file it seems ok but when i try to run using the

> > scheduler the '0x80090016: keyset does not exist' message appears again. -

> > I

> > think message may be the key to the problem.

> >

> > Any more ideas or assistance is definately welcome.

> >

> > Thanks and regards

> >

> > Frances.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> message news:3624C5FC-D93B-4046-9F14-BE8D7866B826@microsoft.com...

> >> > We have been using Win Backup on Win Svr 2003 for at least 18months now

> >> > and

> >> > suddenly it is refusing to work. If I run a manual backup it backs up

> >> > no

> >> > problem. However the scheduled backups do not start. No log is

> >> > generated

> >> > in

> >> > the backup GUI and the very few messages which appear in the event

> >> > viewer

> >> > do

> >> > not seem applicable. I have rebooted the server and also deleted and

> >> > recreated all the scheduled tasks and media but it has made no

> >> > difference. -

> >> > The only clue I have is that if I select properties on any of the tasks

> >> > then

> >> > the following error appears:

> >> >>General page initialization failed. The specific error is:

> >> >>0x80090016:keyset does not exist. An error has occurred attempting to

> >> >>retrieve task account information you may continue editing the task

> >> >>object, but will be unable to change the task ac info.

> >> >

> >> > No changes have been made to the system and a similar server on the

> >> > network

> >> > does not give this error. Currently we are on Win Svr 2003 SP1. I have

> >> > not

> >> > tried to upgrade to SP2 yet.

> >> >

> >> > Can anyone assist please?

> >>

> >> Your first job should be to establish if the task does start or

> >> not. Even though you think that it does not, I suspect that it

> >> does. Grab the command line from the scheduled task and

> >> insert it into a batch file like so:

> >>

> >> @echo off

> >> echo The backup job started on %date% at %time%. Account=%UserName% >>

> >> c:\test.log

> >> ntbackup /.. /.. /..

> >> echo The backup job ended on %date% at %time%. >> c:\test.log

> >> echo. >> c:\test.log

> >>

> >> Now use the Task Scheduler to run this job instead of ntbackup.exe,

> >> then have a look at c:\test.log

> >>

> >> It would also help if you posted the exact command line you

> >> currently have, and the contents of your .bks file.

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

Let's move away from your backup jobs for a moment. Can

you schedule any tasks at all? Can you run this batch file as

a scheduled task?

@echo off

echo %date% %time% >> c:\test.log

 

"Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:CA4B5B67-7743-4350-89B8-AB3503CEE435@microsoft.com...

> Sorry this is not something which we have a great deal of experience in.

> I am not quite sure what you mean or how we can tell what type of backup

> is

> created by the Backup icon. It creates a job which shows in Accessories,

> System tools, scheduled tasks. When I right click and choose properties

> for

> one of the backup tasks, first the error (keyset does not exist) shows and

> then in the Run box the details "MON" /l:s /g

> "bfdf13a7-555d-43f5-af7d-3fb9dcbaa0a4" show. There is a browse button here

> but due to the errors it does not work. When the list of scheduled tasks

> is

> open all the backups have a status of 'Could not start' and Last result of

> '0x0'.

> Reviewing all the old log files again it seems that the last time the

> backup

> job started correctly was on the 21st Dec. On this date it failed at the

> verify stage due to a ....Hardware or media error.... , this is not

> unusual,

> it happens maybe once every two months, so I created a new media and ran

> the

> backup manually. - But I dont think this is connected to the error.

>

> The log file C:\test.log says the following:

> The backup job started on 07/10/2008 at 16.53.56.88. Account=Administrator

> The backup job ended on 07/10/2008 at 16.54.02.18.

>

> It says the same message (different times) each time we run it as you

> suggested in a batch file.

>

> When I try to look at the Application logs for the nights of the 20th

> (successful) and 21st (unsucessful), I notice that at the time the backup

> failed (during D drive verify stage) the error Event ID 1030, Source

> Userenv

> was logged, followed by error Event ID 1058. Source Userenv -I do not know

> if

> this has any relevance.

>

> Beyond this I am afraid we are out of our depth as to finding the reason.

>

> Many thanks for your help.

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Your reply is inconclusive:

>> - When you scheduled your backup, did you schedule the ntbackup.exe

>> command or did you schedule a batch file to run?

>> - If it is the batch file, what does it look like?

>> - What is the contents of the log file c:\test.log?

>>

>> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> message news:EAE9D8E5-6D03-4CBB-9471-40AAAD3E2D77@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi and thanks for your help.

>> >

>> > The .bks file contains the following:

>> > C:\

>> > D:\

>> > Systemstate

>> >

>> > Normally we run and manage the Backups and schedule entirely through

>> > the

>> > GUI

>> > located in Accessories, System tools, Backup.

>> > When we try to run in a batch file as you suggested then a log is made

>> > which

>> > is visible in the Backup GUI.

>> >

>> > When we run using batch file it seems ok but when i try to run using

>> > the

>> > scheduler the '0x80090016: keyset does not exist' message appears

>> > again. -

>> > I

>> > think message may be the key to the problem.

>> >

>> > Any more ideas or assistance is definately welcome.

>> >

>> > Thanks and regards

>> >

>> > Frances.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> >> message news:3624C5FC-D93B-4046-9F14-BE8D7866B826@microsoft.com...

>> >> > We have been using Win Backup on Win Svr 2003 for at least 18months

>> >> > now

>> >> > and

>> >> > suddenly it is refusing to work. If I run a manual backup it backs

>> >> > up

>> >> > no

>> >> > problem. However the scheduled backups do not start. No log is

>> >> > generated

>> >> > in

>> >> > the backup GUI and the very few messages which appear in the event

>> >> > viewer

>> >> > do

>> >> > not seem applicable. I have rebooted the server and also deleted and

>> >> > recreated all the scheduled tasks and media but it has made no

>> >> > difference. -

>> >> > The only clue I have is that if I select properties on any of the

>> >> > tasks

>> >> > then

>> >> > the following error appears:

>> >> >>General page initialization failed. The specific error is:

>> >> >>0x80090016:keyset does not exist. An error has occurred attempting

>> >> >>to

>> >> >>retrieve task account information you may continue editing the task

>> >> >>object, but will be unable to change the task ac info.

>> >> >

>> >> > No changes have been made to the system and a similar server on the

>> >> > network

>> >> > does not give this error. Currently we are on Win Svr 2003 SP1. I

>> >> > have

>> >> > not

>> >> > tried to upgrade to SP2 yet.

>> >> >

>> >> > Can anyone assist please?

>> >>

>> >> Your first job should be to establish if the task does start or

>> >> not. Even though you think that it does not, I suspect that it

>> >> does. Grab the command line from the scheduled task and

>> >> insert it into a batch file like so:

>> >>

>> >> @echo off

>> >> echo The backup job started on %date% at %time%. Account=%UserName% >>

>> >> c:\test.log

>> >> ntbackup /.. /.. /..

>> >> echo The backup job ended on %date% at %time%. >> c:\test.log

>> >> echo. >> c:\test.log

>> >>

>> >> Now use the Task Scheduler to run this job instead of ntbackup.exe,

>> >> then have a look at c:\test.log

>> >>

>> >> It would also help if you posted the exact command line you

>> >> currently have, and the contents of your .bks file.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Frances Butcher]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

You are correct - it seems that we cannot run any scheduled tasks (I had not

tried this before) - when I try to run the batch file as you suggest it fails

the same as the backup tasks. --Normally the backup jobs are the only

scheduled tasks that we run.

I did briefly wonder if it was something to do with the permissions or

authorities as this server runs as a quasi BDC with our other Win2003 server

as the PDC. However absolutely nothing has been changed on either server and

I have rebooted both servers in the hope that any loss of connections would

be resolved.

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Let's move away from your backup jobs for a moment. Can

> you schedule any tasks at all? Can you run this batch file as

> a scheduled task?

> @echo off

> echo %date% %time% >> c:\test.log

>

> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:CA4B5B67-7743-4350-89B8-AB3503CEE435@microsoft.com...

> > Sorry this is not something which we have a great deal of experience in.

> > I am not quite sure what you mean or how we can tell what type of backup

> > is

> > created by the Backup icon. It creates a job which shows in Accessories,

> > System tools, scheduled tasks. When I right click and choose properties

> > for

> > one of the backup tasks, first the error (keyset does not exist) shows and

> > then in the Run box the details "MON" /l:s /g

> > "bfdf13a7-555d-43f5-af7d-3fb9dcbaa0a4" show. There is a browse button here

> > but due to the errors it does not work. When the list of scheduled tasks

> > is

> > open all the backups have a status of 'Could not start' and Last result of

> > '0x0'.

> > Reviewing all the old log files again it seems that the last time the

> > backup

> > job started correctly was on the 21st Dec. On this date it failed at the

> > verify stage due to a ....Hardware or media error.... , this is not

> > unusual,

> > it happens maybe once every two months, so I created a new media and ran

> > the

> > backup manually. - But I dont think this is connected to the error.

> >

> > The log file C:\test.log says the following:

> > The backup job started on 07/10/2008 at 16.53.56.88. Account=Administrator

> > The backup job ended on 07/10/2008 at 16.54.02.18.

> >

> > It says the same message (different times) each time we run it as you

> > suggested in a batch file.

> >

> > When I try to look at the Application logs for the nights of the 20th

> > (successful) and 21st (unsucessful), I notice that at the time the backup

> > failed (during D drive verify stage) the error Event ID 1030, Source

> > Userenv

> > was logged, followed by error Event ID 1058. Source Userenv -I do not know

> > if

> > this has any relevance.

> >

> > Beyond this I am afraid we are out of our depth as to finding the reason.

> >

> > Many thanks for your help.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >> Your reply is inconclusive:

> >> - When you scheduled your backup, did you schedule the ntbackup.exe

> >> command or did you schedule a batch file to run?

> >> - If it is the batch file, what does it look like?

> >> - What is the contents of the log file c:\test.log?

> >>

> >> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> message news:EAE9D8E5-6D03-4CBB-9471-40AAAD3E2D77@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi and thanks for your help.

> >> >

> >> > The .bks file contains the following:

> >> > C:\

> >> > D:\

> >> > Systemstate

> >> >

> >> > Normally we run and manage the Backups and schedule entirely through

> >> > the

> >> > GUI

> >> > located in Accessories, System tools, Backup.

> >> > When we try to run in a batch file as you suggested then a log is made

> >> > which

> >> > is visible in the Backup GUI.

> >> >

> >> > When we run using batch file it seems ok but when i try to run using

> >> > the

> >> > scheduler the '0x80090016: keyset does not exist' message appears

> >> > again. -

> >> > I

> >> > think message may be the key to the problem.

> >> >

> >> > Any more ideas or assistance is definately welcome.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks and regards

> >> >

> >> > Frances.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> >> message news:3624C5FC-D93B-4046-9F14-BE8D7866B826@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > We have been using Win Backup on Win Svr 2003 for at least 18months

> >> >> > now

> >> >> > and

> >> >> > suddenly it is refusing to work. If I run a manual backup it backs

> >> >> > up

> >> >> > no

> >> >> > problem. However the scheduled backups do not start. No log is

> >> >> > generated

> >> >> > in

> >> >> > the backup GUI and the very few messages which appear in the event

> >> >> > viewer

> >> >> > do

> >> >> > not seem applicable. I have rebooted the server and also deleted and

> >> >> > recreated all the scheduled tasks and media but it has made no

> >> >> > difference. -

> >> >> > The only clue I have is that if I select properties on any of the

> >> >> > tasks

> >> >> > then

> >> >> > the following error appears:

> >> >> >>General page initialization failed. The specific error is:

> >> >> >>0x80090016:keyset does not exist. An error has occurred attempting

> >> >> >>to

> >> >> >>retrieve task account information you may continue editing the task

> >> >> >>object, but will be unable to change the task ac info.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > No changes have been made to the system and a similar server on the

> >> >> > network

> >> >> > does not give this error. Currently we are on Win Svr 2003 SP1. I

> >> >> > have

> >> >> > not

> >> >> > tried to upgrade to SP2 yet.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Can anyone assist please?

> >> >>

> >> >> Your first job should be to establish if the task does start or

> >> >> not. Even though you think that it does not, I suspect that it

> >> >> does. Grab the command line from the scheduled task and

> >> >> insert it into a batch file like so:

> >> >>

> >> >> @echo off

> >> >> echo The backup job started on %date% at %time%. Account=%UserName% >>

> >> >> c:\test.log

> >> >> ntbackup /.. /.. /..

> >> >> echo The backup job ended on %date% at %time%. >> c:\test.log

> >> >> echo. >> c:\test.log

> >> >>

> >> >> Now use the Task Scheduler to run this job instead of ntbackup.exe,

> >> >> then have a look at c:\test.log

> >> >>

> >> >> It would also help if you posted the exact command line you

> >> >> currently have, and the contents of your .bks file.

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

Fine, so let's concentrate on the Task Scheduler.

Right-click mstask.inf in the c:\Windows\inf folder and

select "Install" in order to re-install it, then test it.

 

You should also check the permission structure of the folder

c:\windows\Tasks.

 

 

"Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:C8204003-857C-401B-9FA4-3B9C2FD95FBA@microsoft.com...

> You are correct - it seems that we cannot run any scheduled tasks (I had

> not

> tried this before) - when I try to run the batch file as you suggest it

> fails

> the same as the backup tasks. --Normally the backup jobs are the only

> scheduled tasks that we run.

> I did briefly wonder if it was something to do with the permissions or

> authorities as this server runs as a quasi BDC with our other Win2003

> server

> as the PDC. However absolutely nothing has been changed on either server

> and

> I have rebooted both servers in the hope that any loss of connections

> would

> be resolved.

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Let's move away from your backup jobs for a moment. Can

>> you schedule any tasks at all? Can you run this batch file as

>> a scheduled task?

>> @echo off

>> echo %date% %time% >> c:\test.log

>>

[Guest Frances Butcher]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

Arghhh!

Thanks for all your valuable help.

When we try to check the permission of C:\windows\tasks, we used Right click

on the folder named tasks, it does not show the 'sharing and security'

option. The permissions structure for 'windows' folder cannot be viewed as it

is shared.

Secondly when we try to reinstall C:\windows\inf it asks for a file

mstask.dll which it says should be on the service pack 1 cd - but on SP1 cd

there is only the file mstask.pdb.dll. On the Win 2003 CD there is no file

either.

 

Anyway - I am out of the office tomorrow - so I will retry on Monday.

 

Thanks again and have a good weekend.

 

 

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Fine, so let's concentrate on the Task Scheduler.

> Right-click mstask.inf in the c:\Windows\inf folder and

> select "Install" in order to re-install it, then test it.

>

> You should also check the permission structure of the folder

> c:\windows\Tasks.

>

>

> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:C8204003-857C-401B-9FA4-3B9C2FD95FBA@microsoft.com...

> > You are correct - it seems that we cannot run any scheduled tasks (I had

> > not

> > tried this before) - when I try to run the batch file as you suggest it

> > fails

> > the same as the backup tasks. --Normally the backup jobs are the only

> > scheduled tasks that we run.

> > I did briefly wonder if it was something to do with the permissions or

> > authorities as this server runs as a quasi BDC with our other Win2003

> > server

> > as the PDC. However absolutely nothing has been changed on either server

> > and

> > I have rebooted both servers in the hope that any loss of connections

> > would

> > be resolved.

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >> Let's move away from your backup jobs for a moment. Can

> >> you schedule any tasks at all? Can you run this batch file as

> >> a scheduled task?

> >> @echo off

> >> echo %date% %time% >> c:\test.log

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

Have another look! MSTask.dll exists both in the System32 folder

and in the i386 folder of your installation CD (in compressed form

as mstask.dl_).

 

 

"Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:5970C614-041F-4879-B89A-16F375FD75B1@microsoft.com...

> Arghhh!

> Thanks for all your valuable help.

> When we try to check the permission of C:\windows\tasks, we used Right

> click

> on the folder named tasks, it does not show the 'sharing and security'

> option. The permissions structure for 'windows' folder cannot be viewed as

> it

> is shared.

> Secondly when we try to reinstall C:\windows\inf it asks for a file

> mstask.dll which it says should be on the service pack 1 cd - but on SP1

> cd

> there is only the file mstask.pdb.dll. On the Win 2003 CD there is no file

> either.

>

> Anyway - I am out of the office tomorrow - so I will retry on Monday.

>

> Thanks again and have a good weekend.

>

>

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Fine, so let's concentrate on the Task Scheduler.

>> Right-click mstask.inf in the c:\Windows\inf folder and

>> select "Install" in order to re-install it, then test it.

>>

>> You should also check the permission structure of the folder

>> c:\windows\Tasks.

>>

>>

>> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> message news:C8204003-857C-401B-9FA4-3B9C2FD95FBA@microsoft.com...

>> > You are correct - it seems that we cannot run any scheduled tasks (I

>> > had

>> > not

>> > tried this before) - when I try to run the batch file as you suggest it

>> > fails

>> > the same as the backup tasks. --Normally the backup jobs are the only

>> > scheduled tasks that we run.

>> > I did briefly wonder if it was something to do with the permissions or

>> > authorities as this server runs as a quasi BDC with our other Win2003

>> > server

>> > as the PDC. However absolutely nothing has been changed on either

>> > server

>> > and

>> > I have rebooted both servers in the hope that any loss of connections

>> > would

>> > be resolved.

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Let's move away from your backup jobs for a moment. Can

>> >> you schedule any tasks at all? Can you run this batch file as

>> >> a scheduled task?

>> >> @echo off

>> >> echo %date% %time% >> c:\test.log

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Frances Butcher]

Re: Scheduled backups fail to start

 

When we click install then our system asks for the file from the SP1 CD. I

have tried both the CD and a fresh download from the website but it rejects

both. Yes I can find the compressed file on the original install CD but this

is older than the current file on the system and I am not sure if that will

affect anything else.

Do you think that if we installed SP2 it might resolve the scheduling problem?

 

Thanks again for your help.

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Have another look! MSTask.dll exists both in the System32 folder

> and in the i386 folder of your installation CD (in compressed form

> as mstask.dl_).

>

>

> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:5970C614-041F-4879-B89A-16F375FD75B1@microsoft.com...

> > Arghhh!

> > Thanks for all your valuable help.

> > When we try to check the permission of C:\windows\tasks, we used Right

> > click

> > on the folder named tasks, it does not show the 'sharing and security'

> > option. The permissions structure for 'windows' folder cannot be viewed as

> > it

> > is shared.

> > Secondly when we try to reinstall C:\windows\inf it asks for a file

> > mstask.dll which it says should be on the service pack 1 cd - but on SP1

> > cd

> > there is only the file mstask.pdb.dll. On the Win 2003 CD there is no file

> > either.

> >

> > Anyway - I am out of the office tomorrow - so I will retry on Monday.

> >

> > Thanks again and have a good weekend.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >> Fine, so let's concentrate on the Task Scheduler.

> >> Right-click mstask.inf in the c:\Windows\inf folder and

> >> select "Install" in order to re-install it, then test it.

> >>

> >> You should also check the permission structure of the folder

> >> c:\windows\Tasks.

> >>

> >>

> >> "Frances Butcher" <FrancesButcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> message news:C8204003-857C-401B-9FA4-3B9C2FD95FBA@microsoft.com...

> >> > You are correct - it seems that we cannot run any scheduled tasks (I

> >> > had

> >> > not

> >> > tried this before) - when I try to run the batch file as you suggest it

> >> > fails

> >> > the same as the backup tasks. --Normally the backup jobs are the only

> >> > scheduled tasks that we run.

> >> > I did briefly wonder if it was something to do with the permissions or

> >> > authorities as this server runs as a quasi BDC with our other Win2003

> >> > server

> >> > as the PDC. However absolutely nothing has been changed on either

> >> > server

> >> > and

> >> > I have rebooted both servers in the hope that any loss of connections

> >> > would

> >> > be resolved.

> >> >

> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Let's move away from your backup jobs for a moment. Can

> >> >> you schedule any tasks at all? Can you run this batch file as

> >> >> a scheduled task?

> >> >> @echo off

> >> >> echo %date% %time% >> c:\test.log

> >> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>