Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Posted January 8, 2008 · January 8, 2008

Hi!

I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's Windows 2003 Server.

The server is using Temporary Licenses yet, and these licenses will espire on

20th of January. The 10 TS User CAL Tokens are installed but not issued, so

they're ready to be used.

However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will work fine on 20th of

January. I want to check if they will work before the expiration date of

temporary licenses.

The TS Licenses looks like this:

SERVER

|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built in - unlimited - 0

issued

|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0 issued (they're

purchased licenses)

Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion correct?

Thanks.

Posted January 8, 2008 · January 8, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to use the Per

Device licensing mode. You have to change it, otherwise your

clients will not be able to connect when their licenses expire.

You can do that in terminal Services Configuration - Server

settings.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

=?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 08 jan 2008:

> Hi!

>

> I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's Windows

> 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary Licenses yet, and

> these licenses will espire on 20th of January. The 10 TS User

> CAL Tokens are installed but not issued, so they're ready to be

> used.

>

> However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will work

> fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they will work

> before the expiration date of temporary licenses.

>

> The TS Licenses looks like this:

>

> SERVER

>|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

>|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built in -

>|unlimited - 0

> issued

>|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0 issued

>|(they're

> purchased licenses)

>

> Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion correct?

>

> Thanks.

Posted January 8, 2008 · January 8, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Thanks Vera,

however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server Settings looks like:

Delete temporary folders... : Yes

Use temporary folders by session: Yes

Licenses: Per User

Active Desktop: Disable

Permission compatibility: Full security

User by session... : Yes

License servers detection mode: Automatic

Is this right?

How can I check the purchased licenses?

Thanks!!

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to use the Per

> Device licensing mode. You have to change it, otherwise your

> clients will not be able to connect when their licenses expire.

> You can do that in terminal Services Configuration - Server

> settings.

>

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

>

> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote on 08 jan 2008:

>

> > Hi!

> >

> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's Windows

> > 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary Licenses yet, and

> > these licenses will espire on 20th of January. The 10 TS User

> > CAL Tokens are installed but not issued, so they're ready to be

> > used.

> >

> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will work

> > fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they will work

> > before the expiration date of temporary licenses.

> >

> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

> >

> > SERVER

> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

> >|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built in -

> >|unlimited - 0

> > issued

> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0 issued

> >|(they're

> > purchased licenses)

> >

> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion correct?

> >

> > Thanks.

>

Posted January 8, 2008 · January 8, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Then everything should be fine.

Per User licenses are never issued, since they are currently

unmanaged.

Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the date on which

they were issued. This must be before you installed the Per user TS

CALs and switched the TS to use Per User licenseing (i.e. no new

temporary licenses were issued after switching licensing mode).

There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye on the

EventLog on your server. If users were still on temporarry Per

Device licenses, they will get a warning everytime they connect,

starting 14 days before the temporary license expires. Since your

temporary licenses expire on 20 january, you are already past that

date.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 08 jan 2008 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Thanks Vera,

>

> however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server Settings

> looks like:

>

> Delete temporary folders... : Yes

> Use temporary folders by session: Yes

> Licenses: Per User

> Active Desktop: Disable

> Permission compatibility: Full security

> User by session... : Yes

> License servers detection mode: Automatic

>

> Is this right?

>

> How can I check the purchased licenses?

>

> Thanks!!

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to use the

>> Per Device licensing mode. You have to change it, otherwise

>> your clients will not be able to connect when their licenses

>> expire. You can do that in terminal Services Configuration -

>> Server settings.

>>

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote on 08 jan 2008:

>>

>> > Hi!

>> >

>> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's

>> > Windows 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary Licenses

>> > yet, and these licenses will espire on 20th of January. The

>> > 10 TS User CAL Tokens are installed but not issued, so

>> > they're ready to be used.

>> >

>> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will work

>> > fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they will work

>> > before the expiration date of temporary licenses.

>> >

>> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

>> >

>> > SERVER

>> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

>> >|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built in -

>> >|unlimited - 0

>> > issued

>> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0 issued

>> >|(they're

>> > purchased licenses)

>> >

>> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion

>> > correct?

>> >

>> > Thanks.

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Hi again Vera,

My temporary Per Device licenses show like this:

Issued to Issued on Expires on

DEVICE01 24-10-07 22-01-08

DEVICE02 23-10-07 21-01-08

....

DEVICE19 04-10-07 02-01-08

However, I tried to connect from DEVICE19 to Terminal Server (because the

license appears as expired) and everything was right and there wasn't any

problems. (But DEVICE19 temporary license had expired)

I thought like you about Expiration Message on Event Log, but no messages

have appeared on it (and it starts to be a bit strange for me...)

The only answer about it, at the moment, is that Expiration Dates on

temporary Per Device licenses are incorrect (I hope).

I'm very worried about this situation because my customer is using Terminal

Services to connect to the W2003 Server and then use Navision ERP system in

several Point of Sale shops, so, there will be a disaster (locally XD) if

they can't connect to TS and work as fine as before.

Thanks Vera. I'll wait your answers helpfully.

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Then everything should be fine.

> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are currently

> unmanaged.

> Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the date on which

> they were issued. This must be before you installed the Per user TS

> CALs and switched the TS to use Per User licenseing (i.e. no new

> temporary licenses were issued after switching licensing mode).

>

> There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye on the

> EventLog on your server. If users were still on temporarry Per

> Device licenses, they will get a warning everytime they connect,

> starting 14 days before the temporary license expires. Since your

> temporary licenses expire on 20 january, you are already past that

> date.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote on 08 jan 2008 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Thanks Vera,

> >

> > however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server Settings

> > looks like:

> >

> > Delete temporary folders... : Yes

> > Use temporary folders by session: Yes

> > Licenses: Per User

> > Active Desktop: Disable

> > Permission compatibility: Full security

> > User by session... : Yes

> > License servers detection mode: Automatic

> >

> > Is this right?

> >

> > How can I check the purchased licenses?

> >

> > Thanks!!

> >

> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to use the

> >> Per Device licensing mode. You have to change it, otherwise

> >> your clients will not be able to connect when their licenses

> >> expire. You can do that in terminal Services Configuration -

> >> Server settings.

> >>

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> Vera Noest

> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

> >>

> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> >> wrote on 08 jan 2008:

> >>

> >> > Hi!

> >> >

> >> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's

> >> > Windows 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary Licenses

> >> > yet, and these licenses will espire on 20th of January. The

> >> > 10 TS User CAL Tokens are installed but not issued, so

> >> > they're ready to be used.

> >> >

> >> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will work

> >> > fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they will work

> >> > before the expiration date of temporary licenses.

> >> >

> >> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

> >> >

> >> > SERVER

> >> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

> >> >|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built in -

> >> >|unlimited - 0

> >> > issued

> >> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0 issued

> >> >|(they're

> >> > purchased licenses)

> >> >

> >> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion

> >> > correct?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks.

>

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Again, you do not need to worry, everything is as it should be.

No, the expiration dates are not incorrect, but you are not using

Per Device licenses anymore, so that's why there will not be any

messages about expired licenses. All your clients are connecting on

per user licenses, and have been doing so since you installed them

and switched the licensing mode of the TS to Per user.

And your test with device19 proves that it still can connect,

because your TS is in Per User licensing mode.

The temporary Per Device licenses will automatically be deleted

from the TS Licensing Manager. This happens 31 days after

expiration.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hi again Vera,

>

> My temporary Per Device licenses show like this:

>

> Issued to Issued on Expires on

> DEVICE01 24-10-07 22-01-08

> DEVICE02 23-10-07 21-01-08

> ...

> DEVICE19 04-10-07 02-01-08

>

> However, I tried to connect from DEVICE19 to Terminal Server

> (because the license appears as expired) and everything was

> right and there wasn't any problems. (But DEVICE19 temporary

> license had expired)

>

> I thought like you about Expiration Message on Event Log, but no

> messages have appeared on it (and it starts to be a bit strange

> for me...)

>

> The only answer about it, at the moment, is that Expiration

> Dates on temporary Per Device licenses are incorrect (I hope).

>

> I'm very worried about this situation because my customer is

> using Terminal Services to connect to the W2003 Server and then

> use Navision ERP system in several Point of Sale shops, so,

> there will be a disaster (locally XD) if they can't connect to

> TS and work as fine as before.

>

> Thanks Vera. I'll wait your answers helpfully.

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Then everything should be fine.

>> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are currently

>> unmanaged.

>> Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the date on

>> which they were issued. This must be before you installed the

>> Per user TS CALs and switched the TS to use Per User licenseing

>> (i.e. no new temporary licenses were issued after switching

>> licensing mode).

>>

>> There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye on the

>> EventLog on your server. If users were still on temporarry Per

>> Device licenses, they will get a warning everytime they

>> connect, starting 14 days before the temporary license expires.

>> Since your temporary licenses expire on 20 january, you are

>> already past that date.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote on 08 jan 2008 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > Thanks Vera,

>> >

>> > however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server Settings

>> > looks like:

>> >

>> > Delete temporary folders... : Yes

>> > Use temporary folders by session: Yes

>> > Licenses: Per User

>> > Active Desktop: Disable

>> > Permission compatibility: Full security

>> > User by session... : Yes

>> > License servers detection mode: Automatic

>> >

>> > Is this right?

>> >

>> > How can I check the purchased licenses?

>> >

>> > Thanks!!

>> >

>> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to use

>> >> the Per Device licensing mode. You have to change it,

>> >> otherwise your clients will not be able to connect when

>> >> their licenses expire. You can do that in terminal Services

>> >> Configuration - Server settings.

>> >>

>> >> _________________________________________________________

>> >> Vera Noest

>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

>> >>

>> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

>> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan 2008:

>> >>

>> >> > Hi!

>> >> >

>> >> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's

>> >> > Windows 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary

>> >> > Licenses yet, and these licenses will espire on 20th of

>> >> > January. The 10 TS User CAL Tokens are installed but not

>> >> > issued, so they're ready to be used.

>> >> >

>> >> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will

>> >> > work fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they will

>> >> > work before the expiration date of temporary licenses.

>> >> >

>> >> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

>> >> >

>> >> > SERVER

>> >> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

>> >> >|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built in

>> >> >|- unlimited - 0

>> >> > issued

>> >> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0

>> >> >|issued (they're

>> >> > purchased licenses)

>> >> >

>> >> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion

>> >> > correct?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks.

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Thanks again Vera,

however no TS Per User licenses are assigned to users. Do they appear in

assigned licenses? I think Per User licenses are assigned automatically to

users according to connections but... ...is there a way to change this

assigned tokens later?

Thanks.

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Again, you do not need to worry, everything is as it should be.

> No, the expiration dates are not incorrect, but you are not using

> Per Device licenses anymore, so that's why there will not be any

> messages about expired licenses. All your clients are connecting on

> per user licenses, and have been doing so since you installed them

> and switched the licensing mode of the TS to Per user.

> And your test with device19 proves that it still can connect,

> because your TS is in Per User licensing mode.

>

> The temporary Per Device licenses will automatically be deleted

> from the TS Licensing Manager. This happens 31 days after

> expiration.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Hi again Vera,

> >

> > My temporary Per Device licenses show like this:

> >

> > Issued to Issued on Expires on

> > DEVICE01 24-10-07 22-01-08

> > DEVICE02 23-10-07 21-01-08

> > ...

> > DEVICE19 04-10-07 02-01-08

> >

> > However, I tried to connect from DEVICE19 to Terminal Server

> > (because the license appears as expired) and everything was

> > right and there wasn't any problems. (But DEVICE19 temporary

> > license had expired)

> >

> > I thought like you about Expiration Message on Event Log, but no

> > messages have appeared on it (and it starts to be a bit strange

> > for me...)

> >

> > The only answer about it, at the moment, is that Expiration

> > Dates on temporary Per Device licenses are incorrect (I hope).

> >

> > I'm very worried about this situation because my customer is

> > using Terminal Services to connect to the W2003 Server and then

> > use Navision ERP system in several Point of Sale shops, so,

> > there will be a disaster (locally XD) if they can't connect to

> > TS and work as fine as before.

> >

> > Thanks Vera. I'll wait your answers helpfully.

> >

> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> Then everything should be fine.

> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are currently

> >> unmanaged.

> >> Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the date on

> >> which they were issued. This must be before you installed the

> >> Per user TS CALs and switched the TS to use Per User licenseing

> >> (i.e. no new temporary licenses were issued after switching

> >> licensing mode).

> >>

> >> There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye on the

> >> EventLog on your server. If users were still on temporarry Per

> >> Device licenses, they will get a warning everytime they

> >> connect, starting 14 days before the temporary license expires.

> >> Since your temporary licenses expire on 20 january, you are

> >> already past that date.

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> Vera Noest

> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >>

> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> >> wrote on 08 jan 2008 in

> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >>

> >> > Thanks Vera,

> >> >

> >> > however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server Settings

> >> > looks like:

> >> >

> >> > Delete temporary folders... : Yes

> >> > Use temporary folders by session: Yes

> >> > Licenses: Per User

> >> > Active Desktop: Disable

> >> > Permission compatibility: Full security

> >> > User by session... : Yes

> >> > License servers detection mode: Automatic

> >> >

> >> > Is this right?

> >> >

> >> > How can I check the purchased licenses?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks!!

> >> >

> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to use

> >> >> the Per Device licensing mode. You have to change it,

> >> >> otherwise your clients will not be able to connect when

> >> >> their licenses expire. You can do that in terminal Services

> >> >> Configuration - Server settings.

> >> >>

> >> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> >> Vera Noest

> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> >> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

> >> >>

> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan 2008:

> >> >>

> >> >> > Hi!

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's

> >> >> > Windows 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary

> >> >> > Licenses yet, and these licenses will espire on 20th of

> >> >> > January. The 10 TS User CAL Tokens are installed but not

> >> >> > issued, so they're ready to be used.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will

> >> >> > work fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they will

> >> >> > work before the expiration date of temporary licenses.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

> >> >> >

> >> >> > SERVER

> >> >> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

> >> >> >|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built in

> >> >> >|- unlimited - 0

> >> >> > issued

> >> >> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0

> >> >> >|issued (they're

> >> >> > purchased licenses)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion

> >> >> > correct?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thanks.

>

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

As I wrote earlier:

>> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are

>> >> currently unmanaged.

So you will never see the Issued count change from N/A, and the

available count will not change either. You will manually have to

keep track of the number of connecting users, to be sure that you

are compliant with the EULA.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Thanks again Vera,

>

> however no TS Per User licenses are assigned to users. Do they

> appear in assigned licenses? I think Per User licenses are

> assigned automatically to users according to connections but...

> ...is there a way to change this assigned tokens later?

>

> Thanks.

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Again, you do not need to worry, everything is as it should be.

>> No, the expiration dates are not incorrect, but you are not

>> using Per Device licenses anymore, so that's why there will not

>> be any messages about expired licenses. All your clients are

>> connecting on per user licenses, and have been doing so since

>> you installed them and switched the licensing mode of the TS to

>> Per user. And your test with device19 proves that it still can

>> connect, because your TS is in Per User licensing mode.

>>

>> The temporary Per Device licenses will automatically be deleted

>> from the TS Licensing Manager. This happens 31 days after

>> expiration.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > Hi again Vera,

>> >

>> > My temporary Per Device licenses show like this:

>> >

>> > Issued to Issued on Expires on

>> > DEVICE01 24-10-07 22-01-08

>> > DEVICE02 23-10-07 21-01-08

>> > ...

>> > DEVICE19 04-10-07 02-01-08

>> >

>> > However, I tried to connect from DEVICE19 to Terminal Server

>> > (because the license appears as expired) and everything was

>> > right and there wasn't any problems. (But DEVICE19 temporary

>> > license had expired)

>> >

>> > I thought like you about Expiration Message on Event Log, but

>> > no messages have appeared on it (and it starts to be a bit

>> > strange for me...)

>> >

>> > The only answer about it, at the moment, is that Expiration

>> > Dates on temporary Per Device licenses are incorrect (I

>> > hope).

>> >

>> > I'm very worried about this situation because my customer is

>> > using Terminal Services to connect to the W2003 Server and

>> > then use Navision ERP system in several Point of Sale shops,

>> > so, there will be a disaster (locally XD) if they can't

>> > connect to TS and work as fine as before.

>> >

>> > Thanks Vera. I'll wait your answers helpfully.

>> >

>> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Then everything should be fine.

>> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are currently

>> >> unmanaged.

>> >> Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the date

>> >> on which they were issued. This must be before you installed

>> >> the Per user TS CALs and switched the TS to use Per User

>> >> licenseing (i.e. no new temporary licenses were issued after

>> >> switching licensing mode).

>> >>

>> >> There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye on

>> >> the EventLog on your server. If users were still on

>> >> temporarry Per Device licenses, they will get a warning

>> >> everytime they connect, starting 14 days before the

>> >> temporary license expires. Since your temporary licenses

>> >> expire on 20 january, you are already past that date.

>> >> _________________________________________________________

>> >> Vera Noest

>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>> >>

>> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

>> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan 2008

>> >> in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>> >>

>> >> > Thanks Vera,

>> >> >

>> >> > however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server

>> >> > Settings looks like:

>> >> >

>> >> > Delete temporary folders... : Yes

>> >> > Use temporary folders by session: Yes

>> >> > Licenses: Per User

>> >> > Active Desktop: Disable

>> >> > Permission compatibility: Full security

>> >> > User by session... : Yes

>> >> > License servers detection mode: Automatic

>> >> >

>> >> > Is this right?

>> >> >

>> >> > How can I check the purchased licenses?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks!!

>> >> >

>> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to

>> >> >> use the Per Device licensing mode. You have to change it,

>> >> >> otherwise your clients will not be able to connect when

>> >> >> their licenses expire. You can do that in terminal

>> >> >> Services Configuration - Server settings.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> _________________________________________________________

>> >> >> Vera Noest

>> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> >> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

>> >> >>

>> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

>> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan

>> >> >> 2008:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > Hi!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's

>> >> >> > Windows 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary

>> >> >> > Licenses yet, and these licenses will espire on 20th of

>> >> >> > January. The 10 TS User CAL Tokens are installed but

>> >> >> > not issued, so they're ready to be used.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will

>> >> >> > work fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they

>> >> >> > will work before the expiration date of temporary

>> >> >> > licenses.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > SERVER

>> >> >> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

>> >> >> >|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built

>> >> >> >|in - unlimited - 0

>> >> >> > issued

>> >> >> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0

>> >> >> >|issued (they're

>> >> >> > purchased licenses)

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion

>> >> >> > correct?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Thanks.

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

So, the licenses will be issued to any 10 users at the same time but TS won't

show the issued licenses, won't them?

Thank you.

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> As I wrote earlier:

> >> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are

> >> >> currently unmanaged.

>

> So you will never see the Issued count change from N/A, and the

> available count will not change either. You will manually have to

> keep track of the number of connecting users, to be sure that you

> are compliant with the EULA.

>

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Thanks again Vera,

> >

> > however no TS Per User licenses are assigned to users. Do they

> > appear in assigned licenses? I think Per User licenses are

> > assigned automatically to users according to connections but...

> > ...is there a way to change this assigned tokens later?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> Again, you do not need to worry, everything is as it should be.

> >> No, the expiration dates are not incorrect, but you are not

> >> using Per Device licenses anymore, so that's why there will not

> >> be any messages about expired licenses. All your clients are

> >> connecting on per user licenses, and have been doing so since

> >> you installed them and switched the licensing mode of the TS to

> >> Per user. And your test with device19 proves that it still can

> >> connect, because your TS is in Per User licensing mode.

> >>

> >> The temporary Per Device licenses will automatically be deleted

> >> from the TS Licensing Manager. This happens 31 days after

> >> expiration.

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> Vera Noest

> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >>

> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> >> wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >>

> >> > Hi again Vera,

> >> >

> >> > My temporary Per Device licenses show like this:

> >> >

> >> > Issued to Issued on Expires on

> >> > DEVICE01 24-10-07 22-01-08

> >> > DEVICE02 23-10-07 21-01-08

> >> > ...

> >> > DEVICE19 04-10-07 02-01-08

> >> >

> >> > However, I tried to connect from DEVICE19 to Terminal Server

> >> > (because the license appears as expired) and everything was

> >> > right and there wasn't any problems. (But DEVICE19 temporary

> >> > license had expired)

> >> >

> >> > I thought like you about Expiration Message on Event Log, but

> >> > no messages have appeared on it (and it starts to be a bit

> >> > strange for me...)

> >> >

> >> > The only answer about it, at the moment, is that Expiration

> >> > Dates on temporary Per Device licenses are incorrect (I

> >> > hope).

> >> >

> >> > I'm very worried about this situation because my customer is

> >> > using Terminal Services to connect to the W2003 Server and

> >> > then use Navision ERP system in several Point of Sale shops,

> >> > so, there will be a disaster (locally XD) if they can't

> >> > connect to TS and work as fine as before.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks Vera. I'll wait your answers helpfully.

> >> >

> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Then everything should be fine.

> >> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are currently

> >> >> unmanaged.

> >> >> Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the date

> >> >> on which they were issued. This must be before you installed

> >> >> the Per user TS CALs and switched the TS to use Per User

> >> >> licenseing (i.e. no new temporary licenses were issued after

> >> >> switching licensing mode).

> >> >>

> >> >> There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye on

> >> >> the EventLog on your server. If users were still on

> >> >> temporarry Per Device licenses, they will get a warning

> >> >> everytime they connect, starting 14 days before the

> >> >> temporary license expires. Since your temporary licenses

> >> >> expire on 20 january, you are already past that date.

> >> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> >> Vera Noest

> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >> >>

> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan 2008

> >> >> in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >> >>

> >> >> > Thanks Vera,

> >> >> >

> >> >> > however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server

> >> >> > Settings looks like:

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Delete temporary folders... : Yes

> >> >> > Use temporary folders by session: Yes

> >> >> > Licenses: Per User

> >> >> > Active Desktop: Disable

> >> >> > Permission compatibility: Full security

> >> >> > User by session... : Yes

> >> >> > License servers detection mode: Automatic

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Is this right?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > How can I check the purchased licenses?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thanks!!

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured to

> >> >> >> use the Per Device licensing mode. You have to change it,

> >> >> >> otherwise your clients will not be able to connect when

> >> >> >> their licenses expire. You can do that in terminal

> >> >> >> Services Configuration - Server settings.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> >> >> Vera Noest

> >> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> >> >> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

> >> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan

> >> >> >> 2008:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > Hi!

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our customer's

> >> >> >> > Windows 2003 Server. The server is using Temporary

> >> >> >> > Licenses yet, and these licenses will espire on 20th of

> >> >> >> > January. The 10 TS User CAL Tokens are installed but

> >> >> >> > not issued, so they're ready to be used.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it will

> >> >> >> > work fine on 20th of January. I want to check if they

> >> >> >> > will work before the expiration date of temporary

> >> >> >> > licenses.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > SERVER

> >> >> >> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19 issued

> >> >> >> >|--- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per device) - built

> >> >> >> >|in - unlimited - 0

> >> >> >> > issued

> >> >> >> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 - 0

> >> >> >> >|issued (they're

> >> >> >> > purchased licenses)

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this configuracion

> >> >> >> > correct?

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Thanks.

>

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

No. "unmanaged" and "not issued" mean just that. The TS will only

check if it can find a TS Licensing server, and that's it. You're

on the honour system.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> So, the licenses will be issued to any 10 users at the same time

> but TS won't show the issued licenses, won't them?

>

> Thank you.

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> As I wrote earlier:

>> >> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are

>> >> >> currently unmanaged.

>>

>> So you will never see the Issued count change from N/A, and the

>> available count will not change either. You will manually have

>> to keep track of the number of connecting users, to be sure

>> that you are compliant with the EULA.

>>

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > Thanks again Vera,

>> >

>> > however no TS Per User licenses are assigned to users. Do

>> > they appear in assigned licenses? I think Per User licenses

>> > are assigned automatically to users according to connections

>> > but... ...is there a way to change this assigned tokens

>> > later?

>> >

>> > Thanks.

>> >

>> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Again, you do not need to worry, everything is as it should

>> >> be. No, the expiration dates are not incorrect, but you are

>> >> not using Per Device licenses anymore, so that's why there

>> >> will not be any messages about expired licenses. All your

>> >> clients are connecting on per user licenses, and have been

>> >> doing so since you installed them and switched the licensing

>> >> mode of the TS to Per user. And your test with device19

>> >> proves that it still can connect, because your TS is in Per

>> >> User licensing mode.

>> >>

>> >> The temporary Per Device licenses will automatically be

>> >> deleted from the TS Licensing Manager. This happens 31 days

>> >> after expiration.

>> >> _________________________________________________________

>> >> Vera Noest

>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>> >>

>> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

>> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 09 jan 2008

>> >> in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>> >>

>> >> > Hi again Vera,

>> >> >

>> >> > My temporary Per Device licenses show like this:

>> >> >

>> >> > Issued to Issued on Expires on

>> >> > DEVICE01 24-10-07 22-01-08

>> >> > DEVICE02 23-10-07 21-01-08

>> >> > ...

>> >> > DEVICE19 04-10-07 02-01-08

>> >> >

>> >> > However, I tried to connect from DEVICE19 to Terminal

>> >> > Server (because the license appears as expired) and

>> >> > everything was right and there wasn't any problems. (But

>> >> > DEVICE19 temporary license had expired)

>> >> >

>> >> > I thought like you about Expiration Message on Event Log,

>> >> > but no messages have appeared on it (and it starts to be a

>> >> > bit strange for me...)

>> >> >

>> >> > The only answer about it, at the moment, is that

>> >> > Expiration Dates on temporary Per Device licenses are

>> >> > incorrect (I hope).

>> >> >

>> >> > I'm very worried about this situation because my customer

>> >> > is using Terminal Services to connect to the W2003 Server

>> >> > and then use Navision ERP system in several Point of Sale

>> >> > shops, so, there will be a disaster (locally XD) if they

>> >> > can't connect to TS and work as fine as before.

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks Vera. I'll wait your answers helpfully.

>> >> >

>> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Then everything should be fine.

>> >> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are

>> >> >> currently unmanaged.

>> >> >> Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the

>> >> >> date on which they were issued. This must be before you

>> >> >> installed the Per user TS CALs and switched the TS to use

>> >> >> Per User licenseing (i.e. no new temporary licenses were

>> >> >> issued after switching licensing mode).

>> >> >>

>> >> >> There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye

>> >> >> on the EventLog on your server. If users were still on

>> >> >> temporarry Per Device licenses, they will get a warning

>> >> >> everytime they connect, starting 14 days before the

>> >> >> temporary license expires. Since your temporary licenses

>> >> >> expire on 20 january, you are already past that date.

>> >> >> _________________________________________________________

>> >> >> Vera Noest

>> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>> >> >>

>> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

>> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan

>> >> >> 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > Thanks Vera,

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server

>> >> >> > Settings looks like:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Delete temporary folders... : Yes

>> >> >> > Use temporary folders by session: Yes

>> >> >> > Licenses: Per User

>> >> >> > Active Desktop: Disable

>> >> >> > Permission compatibility: Full security

>> >> >> > User by session... : Yes

>> >> >> > License servers detection mode: Automatic

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Is this right?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > How can I check the purchased licenses?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Thanks!!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured

>> >> >> >> to use the Per Device licensing mode. You have to

>> >> >> >> change it, otherwise your clients will not be able to

>> >> >> >> connect when their licenses expire. You can do that in

>> >> >> >> terminal Services Configuration - Server settings.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________

>> >> >> >> __ Vera Noest

>> >> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> >> >> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

>> >> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan

>> >> >> >> 2008:

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > Hi!

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our

>> >> >> >> > customer's Windows 2003 Server. The server is using

>> >> >> >> > Temporary Licenses yet, and these licenses will

>> >> >> >> > espire on 20th of January. The 10 TS User CAL Tokens

>> >> >> >> > are installed but not issued, so they're ready to be

>> >> >> >> > used.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it

>> >> >> >> > will work fine on 20th of January. I want to check

>> >> >> >> > if they will work before the expiration date of

>> >> >> >> > temporary licenses.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > SERVER

>> >> >> >> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19

>> >> >> >> >|issued --- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per

>> >> >> >> >|device) - built in - unlimited - 0

>> >> >> >> > issued

>> >> >> >> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 -

>> >> >> >> >|0 issued (they're

>> >> >> >> > purchased licenses)

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this

>> >> >> >> > configuracion correct?

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Thanks.

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Thanks again.

So finally, I won't be able to manage/or view TS per User license tokens

anyway when they start to work, is it correct?

Sorry about my doubts.

Thank you.

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> No. "unmanaged" and "not issued" mean just that. The TS will only

> check if it can find a TS Licensing server, and that's it. You're

> on the honour system.

>

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > So, the licenses will be issued to any 10 users at the same time

> > but TS won't show the issued licenses, won't them?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> As I wrote earlier:

> >> >> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are

> >> >> >> currently unmanaged.

> >>

> >> So you will never see the Issued count change from N/A, and the

> >> available count will not change either. You will manually have

> >> to keep track of the number of connecting users, to be sure

> >> that you are compliant with the EULA.

> >>

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> Vera Noest

> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >>

> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?= <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com>

> >> wrote on 09 jan 2008 in

> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >>

> >> > Thanks again Vera,

> >> >

> >> > however no TS Per User licenses are assigned to users. Do

> >> > they appear in assigned licenses? I think Per User licenses

> >> > are assigned automatically to users according to connections

> >> > but... ...is there a way to change this assigned tokens

> >> > later?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks.

> >> >

> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Again, you do not need to worry, everything is as it should

> >> >> be. No, the expiration dates are not incorrect, but you are

> >> >> not using Per Device licenses anymore, so that's why there

> >> >> will not be any messages about expired licenses. All your

> >> >> clients are connecting on per user licenses, and have been

> >> >> doing so since you installed them and switched the licensing

> >> >> mode of the TS to Per user. And your test with device19

> >> >> proves that it still can connect, because your TS is in Per

> >> >> User licensing mode.

> >> >>

> >> >> The temporary Per Device licenses will automatically be

> >> >> deleted from the TS Licensing Manager. This happens 31 days

> >> >> after expiration.

> >> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> >> Vera Noest

> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >> >>

> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 09 jan 2008

> >> >> in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >> >>

> >> >> > Hi again Vera,

> >> >> >

> >> >> > My temporary Per Device licenses show like this:

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Issued to Issued on Expires on

> >> >> > DEVICE01 24-10-07 22-01-08

> >> >> > DEVICE02 23-10-07 21-01-08

> >> >> > ...

> >> >> > DEVICE19 04-10-07 02-01-08

> >> >> >

> >> >> > However, I tried to connect from DEVICE19 to Terminal

> >> >> > Server (because the license appears as expired) and

> >> >> > everything was right and there wasn't any problems. (But

> >> >> > DEVICE19 temporary license had expired)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I thought like you about Expiration Message on Event Log,

> >> >> > but no messages have appeared on it (and it starts to be a

> >> >> > bit strange for me...)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > The only answer about it, at the moment, is that

> >> >> > Expiration Dates on temporary Per Device licenses are

> >> >> > incorrect (I hope).

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I'm very worried about this situation because my customer

> >> >> > is using Terminal Services to connect to the W2003 Server

> >> >> > and then use Navision ERP system in several Point of Sale

> >> >> > shops, so, there will be a disaster (locally XD) if they

> >> >> > can't connect to TS and work as fine as before.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thanks Vera. I'll wait your answers helpfully.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Then everything should be fine.

> >> >> >> Per User licenses are never issued, since they are

> >> >> >> currently unmanaged.

> >> >> >> Check the temporary Per Device license again, for the

> >> >> >> date on which they were issued. This must be before you

> >> >> >> installed the Per user TS CALs and switched the TS to use

> >> >> >> Per User licenseing (i.e. no new temporary licenses were

> >> >> >> issued after switching licensing mode).

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> There's no real way to test, but you should keep an eye

> >> >> >> on the EventLog on your server. If users were still on

> >> >> >> temporarry Per Device licenses, they will get a warning

> >> >> >> everytime they connect, starting 14 days before the

> >> >> >> temporary license expires. Since your temporary licenses

> >> >> >> expire on 20 january, you are already past that date.

> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> >> >> Vera Noest

> >> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> >> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

> >> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan

> >> >> >> 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > Thanks Vera,

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > however, my Teminal Services Configuration - Server

> >> >> >> > Settings looks like:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Delete temporary folders... : Yes

> >> >> >> > Use temporary folders by session: Yes

> >> >> >> > Licenses: Per User

> >> >> >> > Active Desktop: Disable

> >> >> >> > Permission compatibility: Full security

> >> >> >> > User by session... : Yes

> >> >> >> > License servers detection mode: Automatic

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Is this right?

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > How can I check the purchased licenses?

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Thanks!!

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> Sounds like your Terminal Server is still configured

> >> >> >> >> to use the Per Device licensing mode. You have to

> >> >> >> >> change it, otherwise your clients will not be able to

> >> >> >> >> connect when their licenses expire. You can do that in

> >> >> >> >> terminal Services Configuration - Server settings.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________

> >> >> >> >> __ Vera Noest

> >> >> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> >> >> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> >> >> >> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> =?Utf-8?B?Zm9vbG9zb2Zv?=

> >> >> >> >> <foolosofo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 08 jan

> >> >> >> >> 2008:

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> > Hi!

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > I've installed 10 TS User CAL Tokens in our

> >> >> >> >> > customer's Windows 2003 Server. The server is using

> >> >> >> >> > Temporary Licenses yet, and these licenses will

> >> >> >> >> > espire on 20th of January. The 10 TS User CAL Tokens

> >> >> >> >> > are installed but not issued, so they're ready to be

> >> >> >> >> > used.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > However, they're not issued and I don't know if it

> >> >> >> >> > will work fine on 20th of January. I want to check

> >> >> >> >> > if they will work before the expiration date of

> >> >> >> >> > temporary licenses.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > The TS Licenses looks like this:

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > SERVER

> >> >> >> >> >|--- Temp W2003 per device CALS - temp- "-" - 19

> >> >> >> >> >|issued --- Exisiting W2000 TS token CALs (per

> >> >> >> >> >|device) - built in - unlimited - 0

> >> >> >> >> > issued

> >> >> >> >> >|--- W2003 - TS per User CAL Token - open - 10 - 10 -

> >> >> >> >> >|0 issued (they're

> >> >> >> >> > purchased licenses)

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > Is there a way to check this? Or, is this

> >> >> >> >> > configuracion correct?

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > Thanks.

>

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Hi,

Let me add some additional re-assurance to what Vera

has already provided. You will not be able to view or

manage TS Per User CALs. They are unmanaged.

There are no Per User tokens issued.

Please read the following article in general, and specifically

the section "Management limitations for user CALs":

Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server licensing issues

and requirements for deployment

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823313

Please read the following article, it describes the fact that

Windows Server 2003 does not manage Per User TS CALs:

The function of Terminal Server CALs in Windows Server 2003

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822134/

Please open up Help and Support on your 2003 server and

search for ts cal. If you read the first topic you will see mention

that Per User TS CALs are not monitored.

Thanks.

-TP

foolosofo wrote:

> Thanks again.

>

> So finally, I won't be able to manage/or view TS per User license

> tokens anyway when they start to work, is it correct?

>

> Sorry about my doubts.

>

> Thank you.

>

Posted January 9, 2008 · January 9, 2008

Re: Temp Licenses and User CAL Tokens

Thank you.

I hope it will work fine!

See you!

"TP" wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Let me add some additional re-assurance to what Vera

> has already provided. You will not be able to view or

> manage TS Per User CALs. They are unmanaged.

> There are no Per User tokens issued.

>

> Please read the following article in general, and specifically

> the section "Management limitations for user CALs":

>

> Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server licensing issues

> and requirements for deployment

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823313

>

> Please read the following article, it describes the fact that

> Windows Server 2003 does not manage Per User TS CALs:

>

> The function of Terminal Server CALs in Windows Server 2003

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822134/

>

> Please open up Help and Support on your 2003 server and

> search for ts cal. If you read the first topic you will see mention

> that Per User TS CALs are not monitored.

>

> Thanks.

>

> -TP

>

> foolosofo wrote:

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > So finally, I won't be able to manage/or view TS per User license

> > tokens anyway when they start to work, is it correct?

> >

> > Sorry about my doubts.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

>

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