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Guest rhazzon
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I'm having a problem with my users set up for roaming profiles. It

appears that Sun Java keeps adding a large directory \\server\profiles

\username\Application Data\Sun for each of my users. This directory

can be anywhere from a few megs to nearly 200 megs. As you can

imagine the result is an extended logon/logoff time as the data is

transferred to the client machine. Once a week I go in and view the

size of each users profile. If I notice a large profile I go in and

manually delete this directory. Are there any suggestions on how to

deal with this problem in a more efficient manner?

 

Thanks to all in advance!

 

Russ Hazzon

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Guest Anthony
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Re: Roaming profiles and Sun Java App Directory

 

Russ,

That's interesting. Obviously you can change the size of the cache or move

it to a different place, in the Java console. However I didn't know where

those settings are stored to change remotely. I ran Process Monitor and it

seems to be in the file Application

Data\Sun\Java\Deployment\deployment.properties. You can change whether

cached or not, the size of the cache and the path,

Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

"rhazzon" <russ@hazzon.com> wrote in message

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> I'm having a problem with my users set up for roaming profiles. It

> appears that Sun Java keeps adding a large directory \\server\profiles

> \username\Application Data\Sun for each of my users. This directory

> can be anywhere from a few megs to nearly 200 megs. As you can

> imagine the result is an extended logon/logoff time as the data is

> transferred to the client machine. Once a week I go in and view the

> size of each users profile. If I notice a large profile I go in and

> manually delete this directory. Are there any suggestions on how to

> deal with this problem in a more efficient manner?

>

> Thanks to all in advance!

>

> Russ Hazzon

Guest harrykrishna.nospam@online.ie
Posted

Re: Roaming profiles and Sun Java App Directory

 

rhazzon <russ@hazzon.com> wrote:

>I'm having a problem with my users set up for roaming profiles. It

>appears that Sun Java keeps adding a large directory \\server\profiles

>\username\Application Data\Sun for each of my users. This directory

>can be anywhere from a few megs to nearly 200 megs. As you can

>imagine the result is an extended logon/logoff time as the data is

>transferred to the client machine. Once a week I go in and view the

>size of each users profile. If I notice a large profile I go in and

>manually delete this directory. Are there any suggestions on how to

>deal with this problem in a more efficient manner?

>

>Thanks to all in advance!

>

>Russ Hazzon

 

If you're on a domain you could add an exclusion to the roaming

profile file list to prevent these files from roaming.

 

Open GPMC and expand User Configuration --> Administrative Templates

--> System --> User Profiles and have a look at "Exclude directories

in roaming profile"...

 

HTH

 

Ha®®y

 

HarryKrishna.nospam@online.ie

Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Posted

Re: Roaming profiles and Sun Java App Directory

 

rhazzon <russ@hazzon.com> wrote:

> I'm having a problem with my users set up for roaming profiles. It

> appears that Sun Java keeps adding a large directory \\server\profiles

> \username\Application Data\Sun for each of my users. This directory

> can be anywhere from a few megs to nearly 200 megs. As you can

> imagine the result is an extended logon/logoff time as the data is

> transferred to the client machine. Once a week I go in and view the

> size of each users profile. If I notice a large profile I go in and

> manually delete this directory. Are there any suggestions on how to

> deal with this problem in a more efficient manner?

>

> Thanks to all in advance!

>

> Russ Hazzon

 

You might approach this differently. With roaming profiles especially (but

also on a domain in general) I strongly encourage you to usefolder

redirection - for My Documents, Application Data, and Desktop. Redirect all

of thse via group policy, to subfolders of a folder set up for users on the

server (\\server\users$\%sername% .....). Check your group policy options

for more info on this. If you don't keep your profiles tiny they will cause

you no end of grief!

 

Here's my boilerplate on roaming profiles....

 

---------------

 

1. Set up a share on the server. For example - d:\profiles, shared as

profiles$ to make it hidden from browsing. Make sure this share is *not* set

to allow offline files/caching! (that's on by default - disable it)

 

2. Make sure the share permissions on profiles$ indicate everyone=full

control. Set the NTFS security to administrators, system, and users=full

control.

 

3. In the users' ADUC properties, specify \\server\profiles$\%username% in

the profiles field

 

4. Have each user log into the domain once from their usual workstation

(where their existing profile lives) and log out. The profile is now

roaming.

 

5. If you want the administrators group to automatically have permissions to

the profiles folders, you'll need to make the appropriate change in group

policy. Look in computer configuration/administrative templates/system/user

profiles - there's an option to add administrators group to the roaming

profiles permissions.

 

Notes:

 

* Make sure users understand that they should not log into multiple

computers at the same time when they have roaming profiles (unless you make

the profiles mandatory by renaming ntuser.dat to ntuser.man so they can't

change them). Explain that the

last one out wins,

when it comes to uploading the final, changed copy of the profile.

 

* Keep your profiles TINY. Via group policy, redirect My Documents at the

very least - to a subfolder of the user's home directory or user folder.

Also consider redirecting Desktop & Application Data similarly..... so the

user will have:

 

\\server\home$\%username%\My Documents,

\\server\home$\%username%\Desktop,

\\server\home$\%username%\Application Data.

 

Alternatively, just manually re-target My Documents to

\\server\home$\%username% (this is not optimal, however!)

 

If you aren't going to also redirect the desktop using policies, tell users

that

they are not to store any files on the desktop or you will beat them with a

stick. Big profile=slow login/logout, and possible profile corruption.

 

* Note that user profiles are not compatible between different OS versions,

even between W2k/XP. Keep all your computers. Keep your workstations as

identical as possible - meaning, OS version is the same, SP level is the

same, app load is (as much as possible) the same.

 

* Do not let people store any data locally - all data belongs on the server.

 

* The User Profile Hive Cleanup Utility should be running on all your

computers. You can download it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1B286E6D-8912-4E18-B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en

 

 

Roaming profile & folder redirection article -

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Profile-Folder-Redirection-Windows-Server-2003.html


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