Guest CharlesW Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 I have a confidential document the company president wants available on the network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to PDF and set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending via email. Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 Any suggestions? Thanks in advanced Charles W
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions "CharlesW" <nospam@vrtlweb.com> wrote in message news:uOxSmkFWIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I have a confidential document the company president wants available on the >network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to PDF and >set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. > My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from > making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending via > email. > > Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 > Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 > > Any suggestions? > > > Thanks in advanced > > Charles W > You're asking for the impossible. Think of it like this: If end users can read the document then they can at the very least print the screen and send that screen print to anyone they whish.
Guest California SBS Dreaming Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions Pegasus is 100% correct. If they can read not only can they screen print but they can actually save a copy elsewhere. I'm curious as to how you prevent users from printing that document? "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message news:OtgLJ7FWIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "CharlesW" <nospam@vrtlweb.com> wrote in message > news:uOxSmkFWIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>I have a confidential document the company president wants available on >>the network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to PDF >>and set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. >> My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from >> making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending via >> email. >> >> Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 >> Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> Thanks in advanced >> >> Charles W >> > > You're asking for the impossible. Think of it like this: If end > users can read the document then they can at the very least > print the screen and send that screen print to anyone they whish. >
Guest Al Dunbar Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions .... or keep them from remembering what it said and telling someone they meet in a bar. Seriously, now, the president needs to decide if the staff can be trusted with confidential information. If he does not think they can be trusted, he would be better off not sharing it with them. If he thinks they can be trusted, well, he will just have to trust them. /Al "California SBS Dreaming" <noreply@NoEmail.com> wrote in message news:efkuIwGWIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Pegasus is 100% correct. If they can read not only can they screen print > but they can actually save a copy elsewhere. I'm curious as to how you > prevent users from printing that document? > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message > news:OtgLJ7FWIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> "CharlesW" <nospam@vrtlweb.com> wrote in message >> news:uOxSmkFWIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>I have a confidential document the company president wants available on >>>the network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to >>>PDF and set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. >>> My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from >>> making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending via >>> email. >>> >>> Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 >>> Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 >>> >>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advanced >>> >>> Charles W >>> >> >> You're asking for the impossible. Think of it like this: If end >> users can read the document then they can at the very least >> print the screen and send that screen print to anyone they whish. >> > >
Guest Roger Abell [MVP] Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions It might not be a matter of trust. I have at times wanted to force single-sourcing of some files so that everyone would have to be working from the same page, so to speak, and so that there could not be any stale version of the file laying around (with some people not realizing their source is stale). Roger "Al Dunbar" <AlanDrub@hotmail.com.nospaam> wrote in message news:%23%234AYOYWIHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > ... or keep them from remembering what it said and telling someone they > meet in a bar. > > Seriously, now, the president needs to decide if the staff can be trusted > with confidential information. If he does not think they can be trusted, > he would be better off not sharing it with them. If he thinks they can be > trusted, well, he will just have to trust them. > > /Al > > "California SBS Dreaming" <noreply@NoEmail.com> wrote in message > news:efkuIwGWIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Pegasus is 100% correct. If they can read not only can they screen print >> but they can actually save a copy elsewhere. I'm curious as to how you >> prevent users from printing that document? >> >> >> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message >> news:OtgLJ7FWIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "CharlesW" <nospam@vrtlweb.com> wrote in message >>> news:uOxSmkFWIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>I have a confidential document the company president wants available on >>>>the network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to >>>>PDF and set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. >>>> My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from >>>> making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending >>>> via email. >>>> >>>> Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 >>>> Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 >>>> >>>> Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advanced >>>> >>>> Charles W >>>> >>> >>> You're asking for the impossible. Think of it like this: If end >>> users can read the document then they can at the very least >>> print the screen and send that screen print to anyone they whish. >>> >> >> > >
Guest Roger Abell [MVP] Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions A digital rights management system is about as close as the industry has come to satisfying your stated requirement. "CharlesW" <nospam@vrtlweb.com> wrote in message news:uOxSmkFWIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I have a confidential document the company president wants available on the >network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to PDF and >set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. > My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from > making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending via > email. > > Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 > Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 > > Any suggestions? > > > Thanks in advanced > > Charles W >
Guest DaveMo Posted January 22, 2008 Posted January 22, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions On Jan 16, 8:03 am, "CharlesW" <nos...@vrtlweb.com> wrote: > I have a confidential document the company president wants available on the > network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to PDF and > set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. > My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from > making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending via > email. > > Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 > Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advanced > > Charles W You should have a look at Windows Rights Management Services (RMS). HTH, Dave
Guest Al Dunbar Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions Understood. But that is a different context from a document so confidential that it is to be available only for viewing. /Al "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message news:OHMOUD$WIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > It might not be a matter of trust. > I have at times wanted to force single-sourcing of some > files so that everyone would have to be working from the > same page, so to speak, and so that there could not be any > stale version of the file laying around (with some people > not realizing their source is stale). > > Roger > > "Al Dunbar" <AlanDrub@hotmail.com.nospaam> wrote in message > news:%23%234AYOYWIHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> ... or keep them from remembering what it said and telling someone they >> meet in a bar. >> >> Seriously, now, the president needs to decide if the staff can be trusted >> with confidential information. If he does not think they can be trusted, >> he would be better off not sharing it with them. If he thinks they can be >> trusted, well, he will just have to trust them. >> >> /Al >> >> "California SBS Dreaming" <noreply@NoEmail.com> wrote in message >> news:efkuIwGWIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Pegasus is 100% correct. If they can read not only can they screen print >>> but they can actually save a copy elsewhere. I'm curious as to how you >>> prevent users from printing that document? >>> >>> >>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message >>> news:OtgLJ7FWIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> "CharlesW" <nospam@vrtlweb.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uOxSmkFWIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>I have a confidential document the company president wants available on >>>>>the network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over to >>>>>PDF and set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. >>>>> My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users from >>>>> making copies of the file and storing in another location or sending >>>>> via email. >>>>> >>>>> Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 >>>>> Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advanced >>>>> >>>>> Charles W >>>>> >>>> >>>> You're asking for the impossible. Think of it like this: If end >>>> users can read the document then they can at the very least >>>> print the screen and send that screen print to anyone they whish. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Roger Abell [MVP] Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Re: File Security Permissions "Al Dunbar" <AlanDrub@hotmail.com.nospaam> wrote in message news:unBmZQIYIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Understood. But that is a different context from a document so > confidential that it is to be available only for viewing. > Sure, true enough Al, and refocusing on initial posting accepted, yet the different contexts (could) have the same (potential) solution. Roger > > "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message > news:OHMOUD$WIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> It might not be a matter of trust. >> I have at times wanted to force single-sourcing of some >> files so that everyone would have to be working from the >> same page, so to speak, and so that there could not be any >> stale version of the file laying around (with some people >> not realizing their source is stale). >> >> Roger >> >> "Al Dunbar" <AlanDrub@hotmail.com.nospaam> wrote in message >> news:%23%234AYOYWIHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> ... or keep them from remembering what it said and telling someone they >>> meet in a bar. >>> >>> Seriously, now, the president needs to decide if the staff can be >>> trusted with confidential information. If he does not think they can be >>> trusted, he would be better off not sharing it with them. If he thinks >>> they can be trusted, well, he will just have to trust them. >>> >>> /Al >>> >>> "California SBS Dreaming" <noreply@NoEmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:efkuIwGWIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Pegasus is 100% correct. If they can read not only can they screen >>>> print but they can actually save a copy elsewhere. I'm curious as to >>>> how you prevent users from printing that document? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message >>>> news:OtgLJ7FWIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>> "CharlesW" <nospam@vrtlweb.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:uOxSmkFWIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>I have a confidential document the company president wants available >>>>>>on the network for users to view only. I converted the excel file over >>>>>>to PDF and set the security so it can't be modified, printed, etc. >>>>>> My only problem is that I still need to be able to keep end users >>>>>> from making copies of the file and storing in another location or >>>>>> sending via email. >>>>>> >>>>>> Server: Windows Storage Server 3002 R2 >>>>>> Clients: Windows XP and Windows 2000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advanced >>>>>> >>>>>> Charles W >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You're asking for the impossible. Think of it like this: If end >>>>> users can read the document then they can at the very least >>>>> print the screen and send that screen print to anyone they whish. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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