Windows xp system restore

>> http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi

Member: http://dts-l.net

Crawdad wrote:

> Curt,

>

> Good point. On that subject, just what is it that Sys Restore does

> restore.?.

>

> Example; you later discover that OS (sys) files may have been corrupted, or

> Reg setting corrupted - [which does happen without warning.]... are they

> fixed by a 'Restore' ?

>

> GerryH

>

> "Curt Christianson" wrote:

>

>> Spammer,

>>

>> Do you even have an "inkling" as to how invaluable Sys Restore can be?

>>

>> Get lost!

>>

>> --

>> HTH,

>>

>> Curt

>>

>> http://dundats.mvps.org/

>> http://www.aumha.org/ <snipped due to utter insanity>

>>

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

And keep in mind if you run System Restore to restore to an earlier set

point, any recent previously saved exe, dll, etc files, etc., can get

deleted, UNLESS you have saved them in your personal My Doc folder under

Documents and Settings (etc).

Bert Kinney wrote:

> In the restore process using System Restore in Windows XP, what's restored

> and what's not!

> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#19

>

> Regards,

> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi

> Member: http://dts-l.net

>

> Crawdad wrote:

>> Curt,

>>

>> Good point. On that subject, just what is it that Sys Restore does

>> restore.?.

>>

>> Example; you later discover that OS (sys) files may have been corrupted,

>> or

>> Reg setting corrupted - [which does happen without warning.]... are they

>> fixed by a 'Restore' ?

>>

>> GerryH

>>

>> "Curt Christianson" wrote:

>>

>>> Spammer,

>>>

>>> Do you even have an "inkling" as to how invaluable Sys Restore can be?

>>>

>>> Get lost!

>>>

>>> --

>>> HTH,

>>>

>>> Curt

>>>

>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/

>>> http://www.aumha.org/ <snipped due to utter insanity>

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in question

was created, they will be gone.

What should I do before running System Restore?

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#12

What should I do after restoring my system to an earlier date?

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#13

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

Member: http://dts-l.net

Bill in Co. wrote:

> And keep in mind if you run System Restore to restore to an earlier set

> point, any recent previously saved exe, dll, etc files, etc., can get

> deleted, UNLESS you have saved them in your personal My Doc folder under

> Documents and Settings (etc).

>

> Bert Kinney wrote:

>> In the restore process using System Restore in Windows XP, what's restored

>> and what's not!

>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#19

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#12

>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>

>> Crawdad wrote:

>>> Curt,

>>>

>>> Good point. On that subject, just what is it that Sys Restore does

>>> restore.?.

>>>

>>> Example; you later discover that OS (sys) files may have been corrupted,

>>> or

>>> Reg setting corrupted - [which does happen without warning.]... are they

>>> fixed by a 'Restore' ?

>>>

>>> GerryH

>>>

>>> "Curt Christianson" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Spammer,

>>>>

>>>> Do you even have an "inkling" as to how invaluable Sys Restore can be?

>>>>

>>>> Get lost!

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> HTH,

>>>>

>>>> Curt

>>>>

>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/

>>>> http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi

>>>> http://www.aumha.org/ <snipped due to utter insanity>

>

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

Indeed, and it's a bit annoying, but in its simplicity, System Restore

*assumes* ANY such files could be problematic. It's not quite intelligent

enough to know which ones are ok to leave alone. :-)

Bert Kinney wrote:

> Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in

> question

> was created, they will be gone.

>

> What should I do before running System Restore?

>

> What should I do after restoring my system to an earlier date?

> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#13

>

> Regards,

> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

> Member: http://dts-l.net

>

> Bill in Co. wrote:

>> And keep in mind if you run System Restore to restore to an earlier set

>> point, any recent previously saved exe, dll, etc files, etc., can get

>> deleted, UNLESS you have saved them in your personal My Doc folder under

>> Documents and Settings (etc).

>>

>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>> In the restore process using System Restore in Windows XP, what's

>>> restored

>>> and what's not!

>>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#19

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>

>>> Crawdad wrote:

>>>> Curt,

>>>>

>>>> Good point. On that subject, just what is it that Sys Restore does

>>>> restore.?.

>>>>

>>>> Example; you later discover that OS (sys) files may have been

>>>> corrupted,

>>>> or

>>>> Reg setting corrupted - [which does happen without warning.]... are

>>>> they

>>>> fixed by a 'Restore' ?

>>>>

>>>> GerryH

>>>>

>>>> "Curt Christianson" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Spammer,

>>>>>

>>>>> Do you even have an "inkling" as to how invaluable Sys Restore can be?

>>>>>

>>>>> Get lost!

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> HTH,

>>>>>

>>>>> Curt

>>>>>

>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/

>>>>> http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi

>>>>> http://www.aumha.org/ <snipped due to utter insanity>

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in question

>was created, they will be gone.

So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

really be undone, huh?

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

PD43 wrote:

> Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>

>> Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in

>> question

>> was created, they will be gone.

>

> So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

> really be undone, huh?

Get down into the field and try it, to see for yourself. (BTDT, several

times already). If you really want to know, you gotta experience it. The

short answer is, some things are undone, and some things aren't - as was

already mentioned.

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

>> really be undone, huh?

>

>Get down into the field and try it, to see for yourself. (BTDT, several

>times already). If you really want to know, you gotta experience it. The

>short answer is, some things are undone, and some things aren't - as was

>already mentioned.

No offense, but Bert has been using XP far longer than you have so

I'll wait to see his answer.

I've used SR frequently enough since upgrading to XP (Oct. 2001) - and

I'm a tinkerer/experimenter - but I've never played around with

running a restore and then undoing it just to see what it does. I've

only used it for restoring.

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

Agreed on both counts. :)

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

Member: http://dts-l.net

Bill in Co. wrote:

> Indeed, and it's a bit annoying, but in its simplicity, System Restore

> *assumes* ANY such files could be problematic. It's not quite intelligent

> enough to know which ones are ok to leave alone. :-)

>

> Bert Kinney wrote:

>> Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in

>> question

>> was created, they will be gone.

>>

>> What should I do before running System Restore?

>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#12

>>

>> What should I do after restoring my system to an earlier date?

>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#13

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>> And keep in mind if you run System Restore to restore to an earlier set

>>> point, any recent previously saved exe, dll, etc files, etc., can get

>>> deleted, UNLESS you have saved them in your personal My Doc folder under

>>> Documents and Settings (etc).

>>>

>>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>>> In the restore process using System Restore in Windows XP, what's

>>>> restored

>>>> and what's not!

>>>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#19

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>>

>>>> Crawdad wrote:

>>>>> Curt,

>>>>>

>>>>> Good point. On that subject, just what is it that Sys Restore does

>>>>> restore.?.

>>>>>

>>>>> Example; you later discover that OS (sys) files may have been

>>>>> corrupted,

>>>>> or

>>>>> Reg setting corrupted - [which does happen without warning.]... are

>>>>> they

>>>>> fixed by a 'Restore' ?

>>>>>

>>>>> GerryH

>>>>>

>>>>> "Curt Christianson" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Spammer,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Do you even have an "inkling" as to how invaluable Sys Restore can be?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Get lost!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> HTH,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Curt

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/

>>>>>> http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi

>>>>>> http://www.aumha.org/ <snipped due to utter insanity>

>

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

Sure it can. Selecting the undo restore point will restore all monitored

file types and the registry to the way they were before the undo restore

point was created.

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

Member: http://dts-l.net

PD43 wrote:

> Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>

>> Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in question

>> was created, they will be gone.

>

> So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

> really be undone, huh?

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

PD43 wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>>> So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

>>> really be undone, huh?

>> Get down into the field and try it, to see for yourself. (BTDT, several

>> times already). If you really want to know, you gotta experience it. The

>> short answer is, some things are undone, and some things aren't - as was

>> already mentioned.

>

> No offense, but Bert has been using XP far longer than you have so

> I'll wait to see his answer.

>

> I've used SR frequently enough since upgrading to XP (Oct. 2001) - and

> I'm a tinkerer/experimenter - but I've never played around with

> running a restore and then undoing it just to see what it does. I've

> only used it for restoring.

Bill is correct in that experimenting is a good way to learn. Just don't do

it on a main system you rely on for day to day use.

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

Member: http://dts-l.net

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

One thing I haven't tried yet is "undoing" the restore point - and seeing if

I get back ALL of my exe (and other "monitored" files) that were (somewhat

erroneously) removed by System Restore (and I mean all the ones that

shouldn't have been!)

I think you're implying here that they will ALL be restored. So System

Restore must have a special location for all the files it deletes, but I

don't know where it hides them (so I can go look)

Bert Kinney wrote:

> Sure it can. Selecting the undo restore point will restore all monitored

> file types and the registry to the way they were before the undo restore

> point was created.

>

> Regards,

> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#14

> Member: http://dts-l.net

>

> PD43 wrote:

>> Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>

>>> Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in

>>> question

>>> was created, they will be gone.

>>

>> So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

>> really be undone, huh?

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

Think of it this way Bill. Each restore point is a snapshot of all monitored

files, folders and most of the registry at the time the restore point was

created, including an undo restore point.

Where are the System Restore files located on the drive?

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

Member: http://dts-l.net

Bill in Co. wrote:

> One thing I haven't tried yet is "undoing" the restore point - and seeing if

> I get back ALL of my exe (and other "monitored" files) that were (somewhat

> erroneously) removed by System Restore (and I mean all the ones that

> shouldn't have been!)

>

> I think you're implying here that they will ALL be restored. So System

> Restore must have a special location for all the files it deletes, but I

> don't know where it hides them (so I can go look)

>

> Bert Kinney wrote:

>> Sure it can. Selecting the undo restore point will restore all monitored

>> file types and the registry to the way they were before the undo restore

>> point was created.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#14

>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>

>> PD43 wrote:

>>> Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in

>>>> question

>>>> was created, they will be gone.

>>> So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

>>> really be undone, huh?

>

March 1, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

That's part of the problem. I'm using WinXP Home, and access is denied.

:-)

(and if I read correctly, it can't be initiated - for WinXP Home with NTFS)

But it's more than a "snapshot", Bert. It actually saves the files that

it needs to restore. But yeah, I know what you mean.

Bert Kinney wrote:

> Think of it this way Bill. Each restore point is a snapshot of all

> monitored

> files, folders and most of the registry at the time the restore point was

> created, including an undo restore point.

>

> Where are the System Restore files located on the drive?

>

> Regards,

> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

> Member: http://dts-l.net

>

> Bill in Co. wrote:

>> One thing I haven't tried yet is "undoing" the restore point - and seeing

>> if

>> I get back ALL of my exe (and other "monitored" files) that were

>> (somewhat

>> erroneously) removed by System Restore (and I mean all the ones that

>> shouldn't have been!)

>>

>> I think you're implying here that they will ALL be restored. So System

>> Restore must have a special location for all the files it deletes, but I

>> don't know where it hides them (so I can go look)

>>

>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>> Sure it can. Selecting the undo restore point will restore all monitored

>>> file types and the registry to the way they were before the undo restore

>>> point was created.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>

>>> PD43 wrote:

>>>> Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Yes, if the monitored files did not exist when the restore point in

>>>>> question

>>>>> was created, they will be gone.

>>>> So when someone decides to UNDO the previous restore... it can't

>>>> really be undone, huh?

March 2, 2008

Re: Windows xp system restore

What where you doing to produce the "access is denied" error message?

And what was the exact error message?

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

Member: http://dts-l.net

Bill in Co. wrote:

> That's part of the problem. I'm using WinXP Home, and access is denied.

> :-)

> (and if I read correctly, it can't be initiated - for WinXP Home with NTFS)

>

> But it's more than a "snapshot", Bert. It actually saves the files that

> it needs to restore. But yeah, I know what you mean.

>

> Bert Kinney wrote:

>> Think of it this way Bill. Each restore point is a snapshot of all

>> monitored

>> files, folders and most of the registry at the time the restore point was

>> created, including an undo restore point.

>>

>> Where are the System Restore files located on the drive?

>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#14

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User