Guest Scott Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the computer manually. Thanks! Scott
Guest Bill Watt Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote: >What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting >down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the computer >manually. > >Thanks! >Scott Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement. If not see these: Startup and Shutdown Problems http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer Try #2 and # 6. Regards, Bill Watt Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
Guest kayjay Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message news:mpndp35c2rek6fm4ka5pfdlultts0icqt9@4ax.com... > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote: > > >What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting > >down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the computer > >manually. > > > >Thanks! > >Scott > > Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable > Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually > fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have > been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast > Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement. > > If not see these: > Startup and Shutdown Problems > http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer > > Try #2 and # 6. > > Regards, > > Bill Watt > Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ >
Guest Bill Watt Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown Hi, I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I discontinued using them. Regards, Bill Watt Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ ___________________________________________________ On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> wrote: >I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a >desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the >article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. >http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm > > > >"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message >news:mpndp35c2rek6fm4ka5pfdlultts0icqt9@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote: >> >> >What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting >> >down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the >computer >> >manually. >> > >> >Thanks! >> >Scott >> >> Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable >> Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually >> fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have >> been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast >> Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement. >> >> If not see these: >> Startup and Shutdown Problems >> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer >> >> Try #2 and # 6. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bill Watt >> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but not good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very group, eh Bill? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com... > > Hi, > > I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall > using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I > discontinued using them. > > Regards, > > Bill Watt > Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ > ___________________________________________________ > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> > wrote: > >>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a >>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the >>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. >>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm >> >> >> >>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message >>news:mpndp35c2rek6fm4ka5pfdlultts0icqt9@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote: >>> >>> >What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting >>> >down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the >>computer >>> >manually. >>> > >>> >Thanks! >>> >Scott >>> >>> Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable >>> Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually >>> fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have >>> been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast >>> Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement. >>> >>> If not see these: >>> Startup and Shutdown Problems >>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer >>> >>> Try #2 and # 6. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Bill Watt >>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ >>> >> >
Guest Bill Watt Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-) That's when I stopped using them. I kinda miss the old days. Regards, Bill Watt Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ _________________________________________________ On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: >I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but not >good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very group, >eh Bill? > >-- >Gary S. Terhune >MS-MVP Shell/User >http://www.grystmill.com > >"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message >news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com... >> >> Hi, >> >> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall >> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I >> discontinued using them. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bill Watt >> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ >> ___________________________________________________ >> >> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> >> wrote: >> >>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a >>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the >>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. >>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm SNIP
Guest glee Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com... > > Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-) > That's when I stopped using them. > I kinda miss the old days. <heh> Welcome to the club. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: > >>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but not >>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very group, >>eh Bill? >> >>-- >>Gary S. Terhune >>MS-MVP Shell/User >>http://www.grystmill.com >> >>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message >>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com... >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall >>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I >>> discontinued using them. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Bill Watt >>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ >>> ___________________________________________________ >>> >>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a >>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the >>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. >>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm > > SNIP >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message news:e15412FYIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message > news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com... >> >> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-) >> That's when I stopped using them. >> I kinda miss the old days. > > > <heh> Welcome to the club. > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ > http://dts-l.net/ > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > > >> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: >> >>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but >>>not >>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very >>>group, >>>eh Bill? >>> >>>-- >>>Gary S. Terhune >>>MS-MVP Shell/User >>>http://www.grystmill.com >>> >>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message >>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall >>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I >>>> discontinued using them. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Bill Watt >>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ >>>> ___________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make >>>>>a >>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is >>>>>the >>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. >>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm >> >> SNIP >> >
Guest PCR Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown Gary S. Terhune wrote: | I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days. Uhuh! I almost became unconscious trying to determine what you meant by...!... news:uNCzBd8XIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... .....Quote....... In my book, periodic scans with both apps are insensible, just in case real-time protection or passive blocking apps fail top do the job. .....EOQ......... But you meant "indispensible!" | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | http://www.grystmill.com | | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message | news:e15412FYIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... |> "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message |> news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com... |>> |>> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-) |>> That's when I stopped using them. |>> I kinda miss the old days. |> |> |> <heh> Welcome to the club. |> -- |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ |> http://dts-l.net/ |> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm |> |> |>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: |>> |>>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special |>>>situations, but not |>>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very |>>>group, |>>>eh Bill? |>>> |>>>-- |>>>Gary S. Terhune |>>>MS-MVP Shell/User |>>>http://www.grystmill.com |>>> |>>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message |>>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com... |>>>> |>>>> Hi, |>>>> |>>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall |>>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so |>>>> I discontinued using them. |>>>> |>>>> Regards, |>>>> |>>>> Bill Watt |>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information |>>>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ |>>>> ___________________________________________________ |>>>> |>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> |>>>> wrote: |>>>> |>>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to |>>>>>make a |>>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. |>>>>>This is the |>>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. |>>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm |>> |>> SNIP -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown I rest my case! -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:uXTrXhIYIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: > | I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days. > > Uhuh! I almost became unconscious trying to determine what you meant > by...!... > > news:uNCzBd8XIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > ....Quote....... > In my book, periodic scans with both apps are insensible, just in case > real-time protection or passive blocking apps fail top do the job. > ....EOQ......... > > But you meant "indispensible!" > > | -- > | Gary S. Terhune > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message > | news:e15412FYIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > |> "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message > |> news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com... > |>> > |>> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-) > |>> That's when I stopped using them. > |>> I kinda miss the old days. > |> > |> > |> <heh> Welcome to the club. > |> -- > |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ > |> http://dts-l.net/ > |> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > |> > |> > |>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: > |>> > |>>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special > |>>>situations, but not > |>>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very > |>>>group, > |>>>eh Bill? > |>>> > |>>>-- > |>>>Gary S. Terhune > |>>>MS-MVP Shell/User > |>>>http://www.grystmill.com > |>>> > |>>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message > |>>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com... > |>>>> > |>>>> Hi, > |>>>> > |>>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall > |>>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so > |>>>> I discontinued using them. > |>>>> > |>>>> Regards, > |>>>> > |>>>> Bill Watt > |>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information > |>>>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ > |>>>> ___________________________________________________ > |>>>> > |>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> > |>>>> wrote: > |>>>> > |>>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to > |>>>>>make a > |>>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. > |>>>>>This is the > |>>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. > |>>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm > |>> > |>> SNIP > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net > >
Guest PCR Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Re: Hangs During Shutdown Gary S. Terhune wrote: | I rest my case! OK, then. And I'll try to remember where you've left it. OK, bye. | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | http://www.grystmill.com | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:uXTrXhIYIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... |> Gary S. Terhune wrote: |> | I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days. |> |> Uhuh! I almost became unconscious trying to determine what you meant |> by...!... |> |> news:uNCzBd8XIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... |> ....Quote....... |> In my book, periodic scans with both apps are insensible, just in |> case real-time protection or passive blocking apps fail top do the |> job. ....EOQ......... |> |> But you meant "indispensible!" |> |> | -- |> | Gary S. Terhune |> | MS-MVP Shell/User |> | http://www.grystmill.com |> | |> | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message |> | news:e15412FYIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... |> |> "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message |> |> news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com... |> |>> |> |>> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-) |> |>> That's when I stopped using them. |> |>> I kinda miss the old days. |> |> |> |> |> |> <heh> Welcome to the club. |> |> -- |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ |> |> http://dts-l.net/ |> |> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm |> |> |> |> |> |>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> |> |>> wrote: |> |>> |> |>>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special |> |>>>situations, but not |> |>>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this |> |>>>very group, |> |>>>eh Bill? |> |>>> |> |>>>-- |> |>>>Gary S. Terhune |> |>>>MS-MVP Shell/User |> |>>>http://www.grystmill.com |> |>>> |> |>>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message |> |>>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com... |> |>>>> |> |>>>> Hi, |> |>>>> |> |>>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall |> |>>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, |> |>>>> so I discontinued using them. |> |>>>> |> |>>>> Regards, |> |>>>> |> |>>>> Bill Watt |> |>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information |> |>>>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ |> |>>>> ___________________________________________________ |> |>>>> |> |>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com> |> |>>>> wrote: |> |>>>> |> |>>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was |> |>>>>>to make a |> |>>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. |> |>>>>>This is the |> |>>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut. |> |>>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm |> |>> |> |>> SNIP -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
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