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Guest Otto Sykora
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Todays PC have almost all only SATA harddrives.

What is the experience to install on such hardware w98se?

Are ther drivers avaiable for such systems for w98 or how do you deal with it?

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Guest David H. Lipman
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Re: w98se and SATA

 

From: "Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora@discussions.microsoft.com>

 

| Todays PC have almost all only SATA harddrives.

| What is the experience to install on such hardware w98se?

| Are ther drivers avaiable for such systems for w98 or how do you deal with it?

|

 

You would have to check with the manufacturer/vendor of the SATA Controller if they provide

Win9x/ME drivers.

 

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Guest Otto Sykora
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Re: w98se and SATA

 

This is clearly a problem. I thought just someone would have some experience

with it, or someone knows already some controllers with drivers for w98 or

even dos etc.

 

To simply buy a computer and then try to find out abt drivers ist not

practical, and to even find out whyt hardware is in a particular computer in

advance is nott easy.

 

Did someone mange to find any drivers for SATA for w98 at all?

 

 

 

"David H. Lipman" wrote:

> From: "Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora@discussions.microsoft.com>

>

> | Todays PC have almost all only SATA harddrives.

> | What is the experience to install on such hardware w98se?

> | Are ther drivers avaiable for such systems for w98 or how do you deal with it?

> |

>

> You would have to check with the manufacturer/vendor of the SATA Controller if they provide

> Win9x/ME drivers.

>

> --

> Dave

> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

>

>

>

Guest AlmostBob
Posted

Re: w98se and SATA

 

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"Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0213A3BA-B06B-4BFC-8686-6950EB96EF2C@microsoft.com...

> This is clearly a problem. I thought just someone would have some

experience

> with it, or someone knows already some controllers with drivers for w98 or

> even dos etc.

>

> To simply buy a computer and then try to find out abt drivers ist not

> practical, and to even find out whyt hardware is in a particular computer

in

> advance is nott easy.

>

> Did someone mange to find any drivers for SATA for w98 at all?

>

>

>

> "David H. Lipman" wrote:

>

> > From: "Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora@discussions.microsoft.com>

> >

> > | Todays PC have almost all only SATA harddrives.

> > | What is the experience to install on such hardware w98se?

> > | Are ther drivers avaiable for such systems for w98 or how do you deal

with it?

> > |

> >

> > You would have to check with the manufacturer/vendor of the SATA

Controller if they provide

> > Win9x/ME drivers.

> >

> > --

> > Dave

> > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

> > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

> >

> >

> >

Posted

Re: w98se and SATA

 

 

 

"Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0213A3BA-B06B-4BFC-8686-6950EB96EF2C@microsoft.com...

| This is clearly a problem. I thought just someone would have some

experience

| with it, or someone knows already some controllers with drivers for w98 or

| even dos etc.

|

| To simply buy a computer and then try to find out abt drivers ist not

| practical, and to even find out whyt hardware is in a particular computer

in

| advance is nott easy.

|

| Did someone mange to find any drivers for SATA for w98 at all?

|

 

Hi Otto,

 

You bring some good questions, again, for the group to ponder.

 

What we have previously found here is that:

 

1. When using DOS, the BIOS or controller will handle the

functioning/translation of the SATA drive. HOWEVER, some have noted that

some MBs/cards will NOT allow booting the 9X OS without drivers.

 

2. WIN9X will generally run [appending the above] in DOS drive compatibility

mode [using the BIOS translation support, adapter cards might require a

driver] with SATA drives/controllers UNLESS there is a driver available.

As a board which has BIOS SATA support also generally has a fast processor,

the relative impact [speedwise] may not be all that important, though there

may be additional impact on other functions as well.. The boards which DID

supply drivers for 9X were generally transitional boards - during the

support period for XP and 9X era.

 

3. "MSFN" has or had several discussions concerning this issue and 9X, and

some suggestions for potential fixes.

 

4. "48bit" also had or has some discussions and suggestions related to SATA.

 

5. As you noted, the primary issues relate to the lack of native SATA

support in 9X and manufacturer provided drivers for SATA in 9X. I haven't

found a comprehensive list [not saying there isn't one though as I haven't

looked in awhile] of motherboards or controllers which supply drivers for

9X; and most newer boards have no support drivers.

Think like this: the newer motherboards are specifically designed for the

multi-core processors which 9X also does not support, so expecting to find

manufacturer drivers for those boards isn't realistic {though it still would

be nice! Note LINUX has the ability to support multi processors/multi-core

processors and SATA}. On the other hand, add-in adapter cards SHOULD have

drivers as the systems these cards are most useful in ARE the older

motherboards, regretfully many apparently don't. An interesting point: there

are several manufacturers creating cheap/people boards/computers {check the

various News sources}; whether these will suppost 9X is unknown to me.

 

As for supposed 9X generic SATA drivers: you will need to find support for

your particular adapter/motherboard/BIOS listed for those mods, which may or

may not function as indicated. You might need to try a few before giving up.

 

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|

| "David H. Lipman" wrote:

|

| > From: "Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora@discussions.microsoft.com>

| >

| > | Todays PC have almost all only SATA harddrives.

| > | What is the experience to install on such hardware w98se?

| > | Are ther drivers avaiable for such systems for w98 or how do you deal

with it?

| > |

| >

| > You would have to check with the manufacturer/vendor of the SATA

Controller if they provide

| > Win9x/ME drivers.

| >

| > --

| > Dave

| > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

| > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

| >

| >

| >


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