Multiple TS Servers License Q

January 24, 2008

I have recently setup a TS and don't have much, if any experience with TS

tools. My servers are Server 2003, SP2. I purchased 10 licenses and set

them up per device. I setup a TS license server and the four users that so

far are using TS have had no problems.

TS was setup in Bldg A and current TS users are in Bldg A, IT staff remoring

to workstations and servers in other buildings, or connecting tho the TS

server from Bldg B.

Now I have a staff that needs to connect from bldg A to a server in Bldg C

where there are files that are to be modified and used on a regular basis.

Do I need to add TS as a service on the server in bldg C ??

What basic steps do I need to follow to have this staff log on remotely to

the Bldg C server in oreder to use MS Office products to use Office files?

dave Admini

January 24, 2008

Re: Multiple TS Servers License Q

I don't understand what the different buildings have to do with it.

Can't you just make the datafiles accessible to this user when he

is logged on to the existing TS?

Data files should never be located on a TS, they should be located

on a file server which you can access throughout the network,

either from a workstation or from within a TS session.

Or am I missing something?

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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"dave m" <dmackler@mds.acsol.net> wrote on 24 jan 2008 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I have recently setup a TS and don't have much, if any

> experience with TS tools. My servers are Server 2003, SP2. I

> purchased 10 licenses and set them up per device. I setup a TS

> license server and the four users that so far are using TS have

> had no problems.

>

> TS was setup in Bldg A and current TS users are in Bldg A, IT

> staff remoring to workstations and servers in other buildings,

> or connecting tho the TS server from Bldg B.

>

> Now I have a staff that needs to connect from bldg A to a server

> in Bldg C where there are files that are to be modified and used

> on a regular basis.

>

> Do I need to add TS as a service on the server in bldg C ??

>

> What basic steps do I need to follow to have this staff log on

> remotely to the Bldg C server in oreder to use MS Office

> products to use Office files?

>

> dave Admini

January 25, 2008

Re: Multiple TS Servers License Q

Vera,

Perhaps, as usual for me, I have done a poor job of explaining.

The user works in Bldg. A and for 95% of her work, accesses files on servers

in Bldg A. She has need to access and modify files in Bldg C. Bldg C is

connected by DSL. So although mapping a drive to the appropriate folder, or

shareed folder, does work, it can take 30 seconds to open the file. So I

want to user to be able to log on to the server in Bldg C and run Excel and

WORD in a TS session. Bldg C only has about 10 users, most who only use

Outlook and WORD. There is a single server which is a DC and also the local

file server and print server.

The existing TS was setup in Bldg A to support users in Bldg C who needed to

access files in Bldg A. After setup I found that users could NOT log on to

the server in Bldg C unless they where added to the Remote Desktop Users

group. As far as I could determine, once I added TS to my AD network, any

user accessing a server remotely must be in that group and appropriate TS

licensing requirements must be met. I have no problem with that.

Perhaps I don't have a problem. The server in Bldg is not setup as a TS,

only that the user must be in the Remote Desktop Users group. The TS server

in Bldg does not have any data files located on it. Is there a practical

difference between using TS as opposed to remotely logging in to a

workstation or server ??? Really dumb question ??

dave

"Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message

news:Xns9A2FD9B88B590veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...

>I don't understand what the different buildings have to do with it.

> Can't you just make the datafiles accessible to this user when he

> is logged on to the existing TS?

> Data files should never be located on a TS, they should be located

> on a file server which you can access throughout the network,

> either from a workstation or from within a TS session.

> Or am I missing something?

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> "dave m" <dmackler@mds.acsol.net> wrote on 24 jan 2008 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

>> I have recently setup a TS and don't have much, if any

>> experience with TS tools. My servers are Server 2003, SP2. I

>> purchased 10 licenses and set them up per device. I setup a TS

>> license server and the four users that so far are using TS have

>> had no problems.

>>

>> TS was setup in Bldg A and current TS users are in Bldg A, IT

>> staff remoring to workstations and servers in other buildings,

>> or connecting tho the TS server from Bldg B.

>>

>> Now I have a staff that needs to connect from bldg A to a server

>> in Bldg C where there are files that are to be modified and used

>> on a regular basis.

>>

>> Do I need to add TS as a service on the server in bldg C ??

>>

>> What basic steps do I need to follow to have this staff log on

>> remotely to the Bldg C server in oreder to use MS Office

>> products to use Office files?

>>

>> dave Admini

>

January 25, 2008

Re: Multiple TS Servers License Q

On Jan 25, 7:56 am, "dave m" <dmack...@mds.acsol.net> wrote:

> Vera,

>

> Perhaps, as usual for me, I have done a poor job of explaining.

>

> The user works in Bldg. A and for 95% of her work, accesses files on servers

> in Bldg A. She has need to access and modify files in Bldg C. Bldg C is

> connected by DSL. So although mapping a drive to the appropriate folder, or

> shareed folder, does work, it can take 30 seconds to open the file. So I

> want to user to be able to log on to the server in Bldg C and run Excel and

> WORD in a TS session. Bldg C only has about 10 users, most who only use

> Outlook and WORD. There is a single server which is a DC and also the local

> file server and print server.

>

> The existing TS was setup in Bldg A to support users in Bldg C who needed to

> access files in Bldg A. After setup I found that users could NOT log on to

> the server in Bldg C unless they where added to the Remote Desktop Users

> group. As far as I could determine, once I added TS to my AD network, any

> user accessing a server remotely must be in that group and appropriate TS

> licensing requirements must be met. I have no problem with that.

>

> Perhaps I don't have a problem. The server in Bldg is not setup as a TS,

> only that the user must be in the Remote Desktop Users group. The TS server

> in Bldg does not have any data files located on it. Is there a practical

> difference between using TS as opposed to remotely logging in to a

> workstation or server ??? Really dumb question ??

>

> dave

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in messagenews:Xns9A2FD9B88B590veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...

>

> >I don't understand what the different buildings have to do with it.

> > Can't you just make the datafiles accessible to this user when he

> > is logged on to the existing TS?

> > Data files should never be located on a TS, they should be located

> > on a file server which you can access throughout the network,

> > either from a workstation or from within a TS session.

> > Or am I missing something?

> > _________________________________________________________

> > Vera Noest

> > MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> > TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> > ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> > "dave m" <dmack...@mds.acsol.net> wrote on 24 jan 2008 in

> > microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> >> I have recently setup a TS and don't have much, if any

> >> experience with TS tools. My servers are Server 2003, SP2. I

> >> purchased 10 licenses and set them up per device. I setup a TS

> >> license server and the four users that so far are using TS have

> >> had no problems.

>

> >> TS was setup in Bldg A and current TS users are in Bldg A, IT

> >> staff remoring to workstations and servers in other buildings,

> >> or connecting tho the TS server from Bldg B.

>

> >> Now I have a staff that needs to connect from bldg A to a server

> >> in Bldg C where there are files that are to be modified and used

> >> on a regular basis.

>

> >> Do I need to add TS as a service on the server in bldg C ??

>

> >> What basic steps do I need to follow to have this staff log on

> >> remotely to the Bldg C server in oreder to use MS Office

> >> products to use Office files?

>

> >> dave Admini- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

Hello, Dave. My interpretation of the problem you have described is

that you have ONE user that spends 5% of her time creating/modifying

files on a server that is connected via a VPN over DSL and it takes 30

seconds to load her file. I would strongly recommend that you do NOT

make your domain controller in Bldg C a Terminal Server. If you are

being pushed to provide faster load/save times for this person, then I

would go with a dedicated workstation at the offsite location for her

to connect to, however, and this is just my opinion, if it only takes

30 seconds to load the file and she only spends 5% of her time doing

her work, is this really a problem or just an annoyance?

Sidney

January 25, 2008

Re: Multiple TS Servers License Q

Sidney,

Thanks for the response, You got the situation correct. This user is the

company Controller/Administration Exec, so inconvenience is an issue. Your

suggested solution is one I have used before successfully between other

locations, which has now been eliminated in other locations and replaced by

a TS server. However, in this case there is no space available in Bldg C

and dedicating a PC for this one function seems a huge resource waste.

So what's the difference between TS and simple using remote access to the

server with Office installed??

dave

"Sidney Collum" <sidneycollum@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Jan 25, 7:56 am, "dave m" <dmack...@mds.acsol.net> wrote:

> Vera,

>

> Perhaps, as usual for me, I have done a poor job of explaining.

>

> The user works in Bldg. A and for 95% of her work, accesses files on

> servers

> in Bldg A. She has need to access and modify files in Bldg C. Bldg C is

> connected by DSL. So although mapping a drive to the appropriate folder,

> or

> shareed folder, does work, it can take 30 seconds to open the file. So I

> want to user to be able to log on to the server in Bldg C and run Excel

> and

> WORD in a TS session. Bldg C only has about 10 users, most who only use

> Outlook and WORD. There is a single server which is a DC and also the

> local

> file server and print server.

>

> The existing TS was setup in Bldg A to support users in Bldg C who needed

> to

> access files in Bldg A. After setup I found that users could NOT log on to

> the server in Bldg C unless they where added to the Remote Desktop Users

> group. As far as I could determine, once I added TS to my AD network, any

> user accessing a server remotely must be in that group and appropriate TS

> licensing requirements must be met. I have no problem with that.

>

> Perhaps I don't have a problem. The server in Bldg is not setup as a TS,

> only that the user must be in the Remote Desktop Users group. The TS

> server

> in Bldg does not have any data files located on it. Is there a practical

> difference between using TS as opposed to remotely logging in to a

> workstation or server ??? Really dumb question ??

>

> dave

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in

> messagenews:Xns9A2FD9B88B590veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...