Guest John Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Hi I have several win xp pro pcs connected to a windows server. I need to replace the server with a new windows server. Is there a way to preserve the old win xp user profiles between the two servers so I don't have to recreate them? I am going to use the same usernames as previous server if that would help. Thanks Regards
Guest Danny Sanders Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Re: Preserving user profiles Is this a domain? DDS "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message news:ONe62BtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hi > > I have several win xp pro pcs connected to a windows server. I need to > replace the server with a new windows server. Is there a way to preserve > the old win xp user profiles between the two servers so I don't have to > recreate them? I am going to use the same usernames as previous server if > that would help. > > Thanks > > Regards >
Guest John Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Re: Preserving user profiles Yes "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message news:OEekfOtXIHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Is this a domain? > > DDS > > "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message > news:ONe62BtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Hi >> >> I have several win xp pro pcs connected to a windows server. I need to >> replace the server with a new windows server. Is there a way to preserve >> the old win xp user profiles between the two servers so I don't have to >> recreate them? I am going to use the same usernames as previous server if >> that would help. >> >> Thanks >> >> Regards >> > >
Guest Danny Sanders Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Re: Preserving user profiles Are they roaming profiles or local? DDS "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message news:ORzF2QtXIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Yes > > "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message > news:OEekfOtXIHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Is this a domain? >> >> DDS >> >> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:ONe62BtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Hi >>> >>> I have several win xp pro pcs connected to a windows server. I need to >>> replace the server with a new windows server. Is there a way to preserve >>> the old win xp user profiles between the two servers so I don't have to >>> recreate them? I am going to use the same usernames as previous server >>> if that would help. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Regards >>> >> >> > >
Guest John Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Re: Preserving user profiles Local but can be made roaming if that helps. Thanks Regards "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message news:u8JluwtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Are they roaming profiles or local? > > DDS > > "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message > news:ORzF2QtXIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Yes >> >> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message >> news:OEekfOtXIHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Is this a domain? >>> >>> DDS >>> >>> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:ONe62BtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I have several win xp pro pcs connected to a windows server. I need to >>>> replace the server with a new windows server. Is there a way to >>>> preserve the old win xp user profiles between the two servers so I >>>> don't have to recreate them? I am going to use the same usernames as >>>> previous server if that would help. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Danny Sanders Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Re: Preserving user profiles It ain't pretty See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324734/en-us hth DDS "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message news:eTVTbAuXIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Local but can be made roaming if that helps. > > Thanks > > Regards > > "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message > news:u8JluwtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Are they roaming profiles or local? >> >> DDS >> >> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:ORzF2QtXIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Yes >>> >>> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message >>> news:OEekfOtXIHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Is this a domain? >>>> >>>> DDS >>>> >>>> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:ONe62BtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I have several win xp pro pcs connected to a windows server. I need to >>>>> replace the server with a new windows server. Is there a way to >>>>> preserve the old win xp user profiles between the two servers so I >>>>> don't have to recreate them? I am going to use the same usernames as >>>>> previous server if that would help. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Re: Preserving user profiles John <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote: > Local but can be made roaming if that helps. It does. Here's my boilerplate on roaming profiles... General tips: 1. Set up a share on the server. For example - d:\profiles, shared as profiles$ to make it hidden from browsing. Make sure this share is *not* set to allow offline files/caching! (that's on by default - disable it) 2. Make sure the share permissions on profiles$ indicate everyone=full control. Set the NTFS security to administrators, system, and users=full control. 3. In the users' ADUC properties, specify \\server\profiles$\%username% in the profiles field 4. Have each user log into the domain once from their usual workstation (where their existing profile lives) and log out. The profile is now roaming. 5. If you want the administrators group to automatically have permissions to the profiles folders, you'll need to make the appropriate change in group policy. Look in computer configuration/administrative templates/system/user profiles - there's an option to add administrators group to the roaming profiles permissions. Notes: * Make sure users understand that they should not log into multiple computers at the same time when they have roaming profiles (unless you make the profiles mandatory by renaming ntuser.dat to ntuser.man so they can't change them). Explain that the "last one out wins," when it comes to uploading the final, changed copy of the profile. * Keep your profiles TINY. Via group policy, redirect My Documents at the very least - to a subfolder of the user's home directory or user folder. Also consider redirecting Desktop & Application Data similarly..... so the user will have: \\server\home$\%username%\My Documents, \\server\home$\%username%\Desktop, \\server\home$\%username%\Application Data. Alternatively, just manually re-target My Documents to \\server\home$\%username% (this is not optimal, however!) If you aren't going to also redirect the desktop using policies, tell users that they are not to store any files on the desktop or you will beat them with a stick. Big profile=slow login/logout, and possible profile corruption. * Note that user profiles are not compatible between different OS versions, even between W2k/XP. Keep all your computers. Keep your workstations as identical as possible - meaning, OS version is the same, SP level is the same, app load is (as much as possible) the same. * Do not let people store any data locally - all data belongs on the server. * The User Profile Hive Cleanup Utility should be running on all your computers. You can download it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1B286E6D-8912-4E18-B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en Roaming profile & folder redirection article - http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Profile-Folder-Redirection-Windows-Server-2003.html > > Thanks > > Regards > > "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message > news:u8JluwtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Are they roaming profiles or local? >> >> DDS >> >> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:ORzF2QtXIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Yes >>> >>> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message >>> news:OEekfOtXIHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Is this a domain? >>>> >>>> DDS >>>> >>>> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:ONe62BtXIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I have several win xp pro pcs connected to a windows server. I >>>>> need to replace the server with a new windows server. Is there a >>>>> way to preserve the old win xp user profiles between the two >>>>> servers so I don't have to recreate them? I am going to use the >>>>> same usernames as previous server if that would help. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Regards
Guest Anteaus Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 RE: Preserving user profiles I thinka point of clarification here is that if the profiles are non-roaming then they aren't on the server anyway, they are in the local "Documents ansd settings" folders of the clients. Only the useraccounts are on the server. The issue that you will meet is that if a computer is joined to a new domain, then users in that domain are effectiely treated as new users. Therefore they get a new, blank profile. The best way to avoid this is to make the new server a secondary controller within the same domain, then once it has synchronised with the existing server, promote it and turn off the old one. That way, the accounts belong to the same domain so it's a much simpler handover. If you can't do this, then you need to follow a fairly involved process of transferring the profiles, on each computer. BTW, it is because of issues like this that I generally don't use domain topology on small sites.
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