Backup solution system for network

January 28, 2008

Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or only for

outlokk folder of computers.

I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs into a

specific folder.

I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their PST in to

a server.

No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough space in

the tapes for that.

For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy past is

that users forgot to close outlook.

I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST files if

their being used.

Regards in advance.

Marco

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

Marco <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or

> only for outlokk folder of computers.

>

> I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

>

> But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs

> into a specific folder.

>

> I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their

> PST in to a server.

>

> No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough

> space in the tapes for that.

>

> For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy

> past is that users forgot to close outlook.

>

> I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST

> files if their being used.

>

> Regards in advance.

> Marco

Nothing can copy a PST file if it's being used. Have your users log out at

night. I also suggest you look into Exchange (either in house or hosted) -

you should avoid PST files entirely if at all possible. They aren't network

friendly and have a lot of other disadvantages.

However, I suppose you could put something in a logoff script that would

copy their PST files to the network after ensuring that Outlook is fully

closed (it will make logoff take a while, note).

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

"Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:B0D62B11-2C86-4D67-90E8-D627D07BFB2B@microsoft.com...

> Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or only

> for

> outlokk folder of computers.

>

> I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

>

> But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs into

> a

> specific folder.

>

> I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their PST in

> to

> a server.

>

> No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough space

> in

> the tapes for that.

>

> For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy past

> is

> that users forgot to close outlook.

>

> I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST files if

> their being used.

>

> Regards in advance.

> Marco

You could use the Task Scheduler on each user's machine to run the

command below. It uses the Shadow Copy technique to back up

open files. However, using Exchange to store your mail data would

be a much better solution.

ntbackup backup "@c:\Outlook.bks" /n "Outlook" /d "Outlook" /v:no /r:no

/rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Outlook" /l:s /f "\\Server\Share\Backup.bkf"

Shadow Copy is available on WinXP machines and on Windows

2003 servers. I suspect that it is not implemented on Win2000

machines.

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

Do you know any script that closes Outlook?

Thanks,

Marco

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Marco <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> > Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or

> > only for outlokk folder of computers.

> >

> > I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

> >

> > But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs

> > into a specific folder.

> >

> > I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their

> > PST in to a server.

> >

> > No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough

> > space in the tapes for that.

> >

> > For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy

> > past is that users forgot to close outlook.

> >

> > I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST

> > files if their being used.

> >

> > Regards in advance.

> > Marco

>

> Nothing can copy a PST file if it's being used. Have your users log out at

> night. I also suggest you look into Exchange (either in house or hosted) -

> you should avoid PST files entirely if at all possible. They aren't network

> friendly and have a lot of other disadvantages.

>

> However, I suppose you could put something in a logoff script that would

> copy their PST files to the network after ensuring that Outlook is fully

> closed (it will make logoff take a while, note).

>

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

Thanks to you both.

My only problem is to save locals PST files.

I have Exschange server, but it's not manage by me.

In order to not have a big exchange file in the servers, users have to copy

their e-mail into local PST files.

to avoid losses of PST files when computers HDD get broken, I would like to

copy temporaly the PST files into a local server.

I tried with NTBackup, set up local machines but I notest when my users

forget to close Outlook the copy of PST files are not made.

One of theses solutions, will help, if I find a script that closes outlook

for me the NTBackup will work.

This shadow copy It will work.

Does this shadow copy work with multiple PST files?

regards,

Marco

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B0D62B11-2C86-4D67-90E8-D627D07BFB2B@microsoft.com...

> > Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or only

> > for

> > outlokk folder of computers.

> >

> > I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

> >

> > But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs into

> > a

> > specific folder.

> >

> > I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their PST in

> > to

> > a server.

> >

> > No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough space

> > in

> > the tapes for that.

> >

> > For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy past

> > is

> > that users forgot to close outlook.

> >

> > I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST files if

> > their being used.

> >

> > Regards in advance.

> > Marco

>

> You could use the Task Scheduler on each user's machine to run the

> command below. It uses the Shadow Copy technique to back up

> open files. However, using Exchange to store your mail data would

> be a much better solution.

>

> ntbackup backup "@c:\Outlook.bks" /n "Outlook" /d "Outlook" /v:no /r:no

> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Outlook" /l:s /f "\\Server\Share\Backup.bkf"

>

> Shadow Copy is available on WinXP machines and on Windows

> 2003 servers. I suspect that it is not implemented on Win2000

> machines.

>

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

Shadow Copy will work with any number of files.

"Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:446EC3F1-0F9A-4C03-A1F9-76D3C577DEAB@microsoft.com...

> Thanks to you both.

>

> My only problem is to save locals PST files.

>

> I have Exschange server, but it's not manage by me.

>

> In order to not have a big exchange file in the servers, users have to

> copy

> their e-mail into local PST files.

>

> to avoid losses of PST files when computers HDD get broken, I would like

> to

> copy temporaly the PST files into a local server.

>

> I tried with NTBackup, set up local machines but I notest when my users

> forget to close Outlook the copy of PST files are not made.

>

> One of theses solutions, will help, if I find a script that closes outlook

> for me the NTBackup will work.

>

> This shadow copy It will work.

>

> Does this shadow copy work with multiple PST files?

>

> regards,

> Marco

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>>

>> "Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:B0D62B11-2C86-4D67-90E8-D627D07BFB2B@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or

>> > only

>> > for

>> > outlokk folder of computers.

>> >

>> > I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

>> >

>> > But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs

>> > into

>> > a

>> > specific folder.

>> >

>> > I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their PST

>> > in

>> > to

>> > a server.

>> >

>> > No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough

>> > space

>> > in

>> > the tapes for that.

>> >

>> > For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy

>> > past

>> > is

>> > that users forgot to close outlook.

>> >

>> > I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST files

>> > if

>> > their being used.

>> >

>> > Regards in advance.

>> > Marco

>>

>> You could use the Task Scheduler on each user's machine to run the

>> command below. It uses the Shadow Copy technique to back up

>> open files. However, using Exchange to store your mail data would

>> be a much better solution.

>>

>> ntbackup backup "@c:\Outlook.bks" /n "Outlook" /d "Outlook" /v:no /r:no

>> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Outlook" /l:s /f "\\Server\Share\Backup.bkf"

>>

>> Shadow Copy is available on WinXP machines and on Windows

>> 2003 servers. I suspect that it is not implemented on Win2000

>> machines.

>>

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

Hi.

What this wants to mean.

"@c:\Outlook.bks"

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Shadow Copy will work with any number of files.

>

> "Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:446EC3F1-0F9A-4C03-A1F9-76D3C577DEAB@microsoft.com...

> > Thanks to you both.

> >

> > My only problem is to save locals PST files.

> >

> > I have Exschange server, but it's not manage by me.

> >

> > In order to not have a big exchange file in the servers, users have to

> > copy

> > their e-mail into local PST files.

> >

> > to avoid losses of PST files when computers HDD get broken, I would like

> > to

> > copy temporaly the PST files into a local server.

> >

> > I tried with NTBackup, set up local machines but I notest when my users

> > forget to close Outlook the copy of PST files are not made.

> >

> > One of theses solutions, will help, if I find a script that closes outlook

> > for me the NTBackup will work.

> >

> > This shadow copy It will work.

> >

> > Does this shadow copy work with multiple PST files?

> >

> > regards,

> > Marco

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> "Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:B0D62B11-2C86-4D67-90E8-D627D07BFB2B@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or

> >> > only

> >> > for

> >> > outlokk folder of computers.

> >> >

> >> > I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

> >> >

> >> > But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs

> >> > into

> >> > a

> >> > specific folder.

> >> >

> >> > I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their PST

> >> > in

> >> > to

> >> > a server.

> >> >

> >> > No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough

> >> > space

> >> > in

> >> > the tapes for that.

> >> >

> >> > For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy

> >> > past

> >> > is

> >> > that users forgot to close outlook.

> >> >

> >> > I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST files

> >> > if

> >> > their being used.

> >> >

> >> > Regards in advance.

> >> > Marco

> >>

> >> You could use the Task Scheduler on each user's machine to run the

> >> command below. It uses the Shadow Copy technique to back up

> >> open files. However, using Exchange to store your mail data would

> >> be a much better solution.

> >>

> >> ntbackup backup "@c:\Outlook.bks" /n "Outlook" /d "Outlook" /v:no /r:no

> >> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Outlook" /l:s /f "\\Server\Share\Backup.bkf"

> >>

> >> Shadow Copy is available on WinXP machines and on Windows

> >> 2003 servers. I suspect that it is not implemented on Win2000

> >> machines.

> >>

>

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

Marco <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Do you know any script that closes Outlook?

Nope,sorry. But your users should be trained to log out every night anyway.

>

> Thanks,

> Marco

>

> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

>

>> Marco <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>> Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or

>>> only for outlokk folder of computers.

>>>

>>> I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

>>>

>>> But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs

>>> into a specific folder.

>>>

>>> I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their

>>> PST in to a server.

>>>

>>> No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough

>>> space in the tapes for that.

>>>

>>> For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy

>>> past is that users forgot to close outlook.

>>>

>>> I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST

>>> files if their being used.

>>>

>>> Regards in advance.

>>> Marco

>>

>> Nothing can copy a PST file if it's being used. Have your users log

>> out at night. I also suggest you look into Exchange (either in house

>> or hosted) - you should avoid PST files entirely if at all possible.

>> They aren't network friendly and have a lot of other disadvantages.

>>

>> However, I suppose you could put something in a logoff script that

>> would copy their PST files to the network after ensuring that

>> Outlook is fully closed (it will make logoff take a while, note).

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

open outlook

%programfiles%\Microsoft Office\Office11\outlook.exe

close outlook

taskkill.exe /f /im outlook.exe

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Marco <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> > Do you know any script that closes Outlook?

>

> Nope,sorry. But your users should be trained to log out every night anyway.

>

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Marco

> >

> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> >

> >> Marco <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >>> Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or

> >>> only for outlokk folder of computers.

> >>>

> >>> I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

> >>>

> >>> But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs

> >>> into a specific folder.

> >>>

> >>> I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their

> >>> PST in to a server.

> >>>

> >>> No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough

> >>> space in the tapes for that.

> >>>

> >>> For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy

> >>> past is that users forgot to close outlook.

> >>>

> >>> I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST

> >>> files if their being used.

> >>>

> >>> Regards in advance.

> >>> Marco

> >>

> >> Nothing can copy a PST file if it's being used. Have your users log

> >> out at night. I also suggest you look into Exchange (either in house

> >> or hosted) - you should avoid PST files entirely if at all possible.

> >> They aren't network friendly and have a lot of other disadvantages.

> >>

> >> However, I suppose you could put something in a logoff script that

> >> would copy their PST files to the network after ensuring that

> >> Outlook is fully closed (it will make logoff take a while, note).

>

January 28, 2008

Re: Backup solution system for network

Open a Command Prompt and type this command to see

the meaning of the various switches:

ntbackup /?

"Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6C462F78-9352-46CD-AE35-8B0A19A4F8A3@microsoft.com...

> Hi.

>

> What this wants to mean.

>

> "@c:\Outlook.bks"

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Shadow Copy will work with any number of files.

>>

>> "Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:446EC3F1-0F9A-4C03-A1F9-76D3C577DEAB@microsoft.com...

>> > Thanks to you both.

>> >

>> > My only problem is to save locals PST files.

>> >

>> > I have Exschange server, but it's not manage by me.

>> >

>> > In order to not have a big exchange file in the servers, users have to

>> > copy

>> > their e-mail into local PST files.

>> >

>> > to avoid losses of PST files when computers HDD get broken, I would

>> > like

>> > to

>> > copy temporaly the PST files into a local server.

>> >

>> > I tried with NTBackup, set up local machines but I notest when my users

>> > forget to close Outlook the copy of PST files are not made.

>> >

>> > One of theses solutions, will help, if I find a script that closes

>> > outlook

>> > for me the NTBackup will work.

>> >

>> > This shadow copy It will work.

>> >

>> > Does this shadow copy work with multiple PST files?

>> >

>> > regards,

>> > Marco

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> "Marco" <Marco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:B0D62B11-2C86-4D67-90E8-D627D07BFB2B@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi. I would like to develop a system to make backups to computers or

>> >> > only

>> >> > for

>> >> > outlokk folder of computers.

>> >> >

>> >> > I have a software on my FP server that backup daily my files.

>> >> >

>> >> > But I have a problem. My users have their own PST files in their PCs

>> >> > into

>> >> > a

>> >> > specific folder.

>> >> >

>> >> > I would like to build a system that would allow me to backup their

>> >> > PST

>> >> > in

>> >> > to

>> >> > a server.

>> >> >

>> >> > No to add those files to my daily backup because there's not enough

>> >> > space

>> >> > in

>> >> > the tapes for that.

>> >> >

>> >> > For me just a symple copy past would be great. The problem with copy

>> >> > past

>> >> > is

>> >> > that users forgot to close outlook.

>> >> >

>> >> > I tried with nt backup, but I think that NTbackup cannot copy PST

>> >> > files

>> >> > if

>> >> > their being used.

>> >> >

>> >> > Regards in advance.

>> >> > Marco

>> >>

>> >> You could use the Task Scheduler on each user's machine to run the

>> >> command below. It uses the Shadow Copy technique to back up

>> >> open files. However, using Exchange to store your mail data would

>> >> be a much better solution.

>> >>

>> >> ntbackup backup "@c:\Outlook.bks" /n "Outlook" /d "Outlook" /v:no

>> >> /r:no

>> >> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Outlook" /l:s /f

>> >> "\\Server\Share\Backup.bkf"

>> >>

>> >> Shadow Copy is available on WinXP machines and on Windows

>> >> 2003 servers. I suspect that it is not implemented on Win2000

>> >> machines.

>> >>

>>

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