usb turntables

[Guest M.I.5¾]

Re: usb turntables

 

 

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

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> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:

>

>>There was also something called 'Melody Cards' that you could buy (late

>>50's

>>to early 60's), write a greeting and the address on one side and then post

>>to someone. The other side had a plastic lamination with a recording

>>pressed into it which could be played on a standard record player (at 45

>>RPM

>>IIRC).

>

> Those floppy 45s used to turn up in magazines once in a while, as ads

> or whatever. In the early PC era, computer magazines would distribute

> programs on these things. You were supposed to put the floppy 45 onto

> your turntable, record it onto an audio cassette, then read that into

> your computer! This was the dark ages, when 8-bit computers used

> standard portable audio cassette recorders as an I/O device.

>

 

'Flimsies' (as they were properly known) were a different thing completely

from 'melody cards'. The former were a thin plastic sheet, whereas the

latter was a card/plastic laminate. I remember the software supplied on

them as well, but I used to read them direct from the flimsie.

[Guest Martin C]

Re: usb turntables

 

One excellent software application you could try out is Spin It Again. You

can find out more at this link:

http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/

I initially tried to use a VERY long lead from my hifi downstairs to my PC

upstairs, but it introduced too much noise. I had downloaded a trial of Spin

It Again and it performed an incredible job of removing the noise, but it

was not good enough for me. I will have to move my turntable upstairs and

use my preamp with a short lead before trying again.

Basically, the application is quite easy to use and very tweakable so that

you can do extra editing - well see the web site and judge for yourself.

Good luck with the turntable.

 

Martin

 

"sandy j" <sandyj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Hi,

> Does anyone have an opinion as to which inexpensive usb turntable is the

> best? I've read a couple of reviews, and all I got was confused. Also,

> do

> you have a suggestion for software that will remove most of the noise?

>

> Thanks for your help

> --

> sandy j

[Guest Thee Chicago Wolf]

Re: usb turntables

 

>There was also something called 'Melody Cards' that you could buy (late 50's

>to early 60's), write a greeting and the address on one side and then post

>to someone. The other side had a plastic lamination with a recording

>pressed into it which could be played on a standard record player (at 45 RPM

>IIRC).

 

Yeah, I remember those. My folks had gobs of those. As a kid I used to

drop the needle on those in the 70s. Old school. I recall the sound

quality being that of a broken bottle being pulled through a cats @ss.

I know them as Flexies.

 

- Thee Chicago Wolf

[Guest Thee Chicago Wolf]

Re: usb turntables

 

>Actually there was no standard 78 RPM stylis radius. The 0.003" radius

>normally encountered was a compromise that worked reasonably well with most

>record labels, but in fact the requirement was different between labels.

>Here in the UK, Columbia required a 0.0028" stylus and His Master's Voice

>required 0.0032". The smallest that I know of was 0.0018" and the largest

>0.0042". This latter would barely play with a "standard" 78 stylus. This

>is often the reason why home reproduced 78s seem to have distortion on the

>louder passages of music. Played with the correct stylus, the distortion

>almost disappears. A dedicated 78 collector will most likely have 4 (or

>more) styli to cover most of the encountered records. The better cartridge

>manufacturers will supply these, though they usually have to be specially

>ordered. Steel needles for wind up gramophones generally come in one

>radius.

 

I do have three stylii for my 78s for the above mentioned reason. My

turntable plays everything from 16RPM all the way up through 90+ RPM

as the 78RPM was by no means a"standard" at all. All companies put out

oddball speed 78s and sometimes the recordings you hear on CD aren't

even at the right speed! Crazy!

 

- Thee Chicago Wolf

[Guest Thee Chicago Wolf]

Re: usb turntables

 

> Are you sure of that, Allen (or whoever)? I thought some of the old

>broadcast

>transcription disks ran at near 78 rpm, but had to be so large (like perhaps

>16 inches in diameter) to be able to go for 15 minutes on one side. (I'm

>thinking of some of the material that was also shortwave broadcasted and/or

>delivered overseas to our troops during WWII, like Command Performance, or

>GI Jive).

>

> This is not to be confused with some of the 16 rpm records used for speech

>that came a bit later, I think.

 

The 16" transcription discs used to play radio shows as well as some

recorded interview type stuff. Even a 16" at 78 couldn't possibly hold

15 minutes. Check out some info here:

http://www.auldworks.com/articles/dtrans2.htm

 

16" discs did come in 16.66+/1 RPM and 33 1/3 as well.

 

- Thee Chicago Wolf

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: usb turntables

 

Thee Chicago Wolf wrote:

>> Are you sure of that, Allen (or whoever)? I thought some of the old

>> broadcast

>> transcription disks ran at near 78 rpm, but had to be so large (like

>> perhaps

>> 16 inches in diameter) to be able to go for 15 minutes on one side.

>> (I'm

>> thinking of some of the material that was also shortwave broadcasted

>> and/or

>> delivered overseas to our troops during WWII, like Command Performance,

>> or

>> GI Jive).

>>

>> This is not to be confused with some of the 16 rpm records used for

>> speech

>> that came a bit later, I think.

>

> The 16" transcription discs used to play radio shows as well as some

> recorded interview type stuff. Even a 16" at 78 couldn't possibly hold

> 15 minutes. Check out some info here:

> http://www.auldworks.com/articles/dtrans2.htm

>

> 16" discs did come in 16.66+/1 RPM and 33 1/3 as well.

>

> - Thee Chicago Wolf

 

Thanks for the link. It was quite interesting!

[Guest M.I.5¾]

Re: usb turntables

 

 

"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message

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>> Are you sure of that, Allen (or whoever)? I thought some of the old

>>broadcast

>>transcription disks ran at near 78 rpm, but had to be so large (like

>>perhaps

>>16 inches in diameter) to be able to go for 15 minutes on one side. (I'm

>>thinking of some of the material that was also shortwave broadcasted

>>and/or

>>delivered overseas to our troops during WWII, like Command Performance, or

>>GI Jive).

>>

>> This is not to be confused with some of the 16 rpm records used for

>> speech

>>that came a bit later, I think.

>

> The 16" transcription discs used to play radio shows as well as some

> recorded interview type stuff. Even a 16" at 78 couldn't possibly hold

> 15 minutes. Check out some info here:

> http://www.auldworks.com/articles/dtrans2.htm

>

>

That was obviously written by a yank because it is so US-centric. It

completely ignores that things were different on the other side of the great

divide. For instance, the standard speed of 78 discs in Europe was 77.92

rpm - a little slower than in the US.

 

A 16" 78 rpm record would not have held more than 6 1/2 minutes even if it

had the smallest encountered label size at 2 inches - and even these

predated the 78 era.

 

Now does anyone know at what speed C1927 black label His Master's Voice

records should be played at?

[Guest Thee Chicago Wolf]

Re: usb turntables

 

>That was obviously written by a yank because it is so US-centric. It

>completely ignores that things were different on the other side of the great

>divide. For instance, the standard speed of 78 discs in Europe was 77.92

>rpm - a little slower than in the US.

>

>A 16" 78 rpm record would not have held more than 6 1/2 minutes even if it

>had the smallest encountered label size at 2 inches - and even these

>predated the 78 era.

>

>Now does anyone know at what speed C1927 black label His Master's Voice

>records should be played at?

 

I once had this page bookmarked that did tell you what all the correct

speeds of 78s were but I'll be damned if I can find it now. Try Google

yet?

 

- Thee Chicago Wolf

[Guest M.I.5¾]

Re: usb turntables

 

 

"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message

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> >That was obviously written by a yank because it is so US-centric. It

>>completely ignores that things were different on the other side of the

>>great

>>divide. For instance, the standard speed of 78 discs in Europe was 77.92

>>rpm - a little slower than in the US.

>>

>>A 16" 78 rpm record would not have held more than 6 1/2 minutes even if it

>>had the smallest encountered label size at 2 inches - and even these

>>predated the 78 era.

>>

>>Now does anyone know at what speed C1927 black label His Master's Voice

>>records should be played at?

>

> I once had this page bookmarked that did tell you what all the correct

> speeds of 78s were but I'll be damned if I can find it now. Try Google

> yet?

>

 

Certainly have, but have drawn a blank so far.