Delete roaming profile on TS server.

[Guest Marcus]

Hello,

 

The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on to our terminal

server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and these profiles take up a lot of

space on the Terminal servers. Folder redirection is implemented on the

following:

 

*Application Data

*Desktop

*My Documents

*Start menu

 

Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs very time the

users logs of. or does anyone have any better suggestion?

 

All help is much appreciated

 

Regards

 

Marcus

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Delete roaming profile on TS server.

 

Yes, you can use this setting in a Group Policy:

 

Computer Configuration - Administrative Templates - System - User

profiles

"Delete cached copies of roaming profiles"

 

But your first priority should be to minimize the size of these

profiles!

What's making them so big, when you have already redirected most

folders out of the profile? Could be Internet Explorer cache,

althought it's by default configured to not roam with the profile.

But maybe the IE Temp files have never been deleted from the

server, if the cached roaming profiles never have been deleted?

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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=?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

06 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hello,

>

> The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on to

> our terminal server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and these

> profiles take up a lot of space on the Terminal servers. Folder

> redirection is implemented on the following:

>

> *Application Data

> *Desktop

> *My Documents

> *Start menu

>

> Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs

> very time the users logs of. or does anyone have any better

> suggestion?

>

> All help is much appreciated

>

> Regards

>

> Marcus

[Guest Marcus]

Re: Delete roaming profile on TS server.

 

Hi Vera,

 

The folder that is giving me the most trouble is Local Settings -->

Application Data. And I do not know if it is so good to delete that folder.

What I have read it can't be roamed Either.

 

//Marcus

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Yes, you can use this setting in a Group Policy:

>

> Computer Configuration - Administrative Templates - System - User

> profiles

> "Delete cached copies of roaming profiles"

>

> But your first priority should be to minimize the size of these

> profiles!

> What's making them so big, when you have already redirected most

> folders out of the profile? Could be Internet Explorer cache,

> althought it's by default configured to not roam with the profile.

> But maybe the IE Temp files have never been deleted from the

> server, if the cached roaming profiles never have been deleted?

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

> 06 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on to

> > our terminal server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and these

> > profiles take up a lot of space on the Terminal servers. Folder

> > redirection is implemented on the following:

> >

> > *Application Data

> > *Desktop

> > *My Documents

> > *Start menu

> >

> > Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs

> > very time the users logs of. or does anyone have any better

> > suggestion?

> >

> > All help is much appreciated

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Marcus

>

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Delete roaming profile on TS server.

 

Aren't they mostly local cache folders?

I've run for years with 1500 users with roaming TS profiles and

always deleted the cached copy. Never noticed a problem with lost

settings, but that doesn't mean that it can't occur. Depends on

where applications store there persistent data, but I would assume

that they use the Application Data folder for that (the one that

you have already redirected).

 

Set up a test user and test, I would say.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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=?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

06 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hi Vera,

>

> The folder that is giving me the most trouble is Local Settings

> --> Application Data. And I do not know if it is so good to

> delete that folder. What I have read it can't be roamed Either.

>

> //Marcus

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Yes, you can use this setting in a Group Policy:

>>

>> Computer Configuration - Administrative Templates - System -

>> User profiles

>> "Delete cached copies of roaming profiles"

>>

>> But your first priority should be to minimize the size of these

>> profiles!

>> What's making them so big, when you have already redirected

>> most folders out of the profile? Could be Internet Explorer

>> cache, althought it's by default configured to not roam with

>> the profile. But maybe the IE Temp files have never been

>> deleted from the server, if the cached roaming profiles never

>> have been deleted?

>> _________________________________________________________ Vera

>> Noest MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>> on 06 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > Hello,

>> >

>> > The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on

>> > to our terminal server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and

>> > these profiles take up a lot of space on the Terminal

>> > servers. Folder redirection is implemented on the following:

>> >

>> > *Application Data

>> > *Desktop

>> > *My Documents

>> > *Start menu

>> >

>> > Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs

>> > very time the users logs of. or does anyone have any better

>> > suggestion?

>> >

>> > All help is much appreciated

>> >

>> > Regards

>> >

>> > Marcus

[Guest Marcus]

Re: Delete roaming profile on TS server.

 

Hej Vera,

 

I will try it. Thank you for your help.

 

//Marcus

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Aren't they mostly local cache folders?

> I've run for years with 1500 users with roaming TS profiles and

> always deleted the cached copy. Never noticed a problem with lost

> settings, but that doesn't mean that it can't occur. Depends on

> where applications store there persistent data, but I would assume

> that they use the Application Data folder for that (the one that

> you have already redirected).

>

> Set up a test user and test, I would say.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

> 06 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Hi Vera,

> >

> > The folder that is giving me the most trouble is Local Settings

> > --> Application Data. And I do not know if it is so good to

> > delete that folder. What I have read it can't be roamed Either.

> >

> > //Marcus

> >

> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> Yes, you can use this setting in a Group Policy:

> >>

> >> Computer Configuration - Administrative Templates - System -

> >> User profiles

> >> "Delete cached copies of roaming profiles"

> >>

> >> But your first priority should be to minimize the size of these

> >> profiles!

> >> What's making them so big, when you have already redirected

> >> most folders out of the profile? Could be Internet Explorer

> >> cache, althought it's by default configured to not roam with

> >> the profile. But maybe the IE Temp files have never been

> >> deleted from the server, if the cached roaming profiles never

> >> have been deleted?

> >> _________________________________________________________ Vera

> >> Noest MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >>

> >> =?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> >> on 06 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >>

> >> > Hello,

> >> >

> >> > The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on

> >> > to our terminal server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and

> >> > these profiles take up a lot of space on the Terminal

> >> > servers. Folder redirection is implemented on the following:

> >> >

> >> > *Application Data

> >> > *Desktop

> >> > *My Documents

> >> > *Start menu

> >> >

> >> > Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs

> >> > very time the users logs of. or does anyone have any better

> >> > suggestion?

> >> >

> >> > All help is much appreciated

> >> >

> >> > Regards

> >> >

> >> > Marcus

>

[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: Delete roaming profile on TS server.

 

Marcus wrote:

> Hi Vera,

>

> The folder that is giving me the most trouble is Local Settings -->

> Application Data. And I do not know if it is so good to delete that folder.

> What I have read it can't be roamed Either.

>

> //Marcus

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Yes, you can use this setting in a Group Policy:

>>

>> Computer Configuration - Administrative Templates - System - User

>> profiles

>> "Delete cached copies of roaming profiles"

>>

>> But your first priority should be to minimize the size of these

>> profiles!

>> What's making them so big, when you have already redirected most

>> folders out of the profile? Could be Internet Explorer cache,

>> althought it's by default configured to not roam with the profile.

>> But maybe the IE Temp files have never been deleted from the

>> server, if the cached roaming profiles never have been deleted?

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

>> 06 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>>> Hello,

>>>

>>> The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on to

>>> our terminal server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and these

>>> profiles take up a lot of space on the Terminal servers. Folder

>>> redirection is implemented on the following:

>>>

>>> *Application Data

>>> *Desktop

>>> *My Documents

>>> *Start menu

>>>

>>> Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs

>>> very time the users logs of. or does anyone have any better

>>> suggestion?

>>>

>>> All help is much appreciated

>>>

>>> Regards

>>>

>>> Marcus

 

As Vera said, I would definitely look at what happens if you turn off

folder redirection for Application Data. What application(s) is/are

storing data there? What would be the impact if the applications(s) had

different local content?

 

For example, at the Hospice I support, we use a medical database

application (Misys) on our Citrix/TS servers that stores a *LOT* of

temp/cached data in a local cache folder. I ended up excluding that

folder from the TS Roaming Profiles and it reduced the size and loading

time by a lot. Having different cache folders on each server turned out

to be no big deal. The few times it becomes an issue are easily

resolved, costing a lots less in support time than slow logons and

corrupted profiles caused...

 

The real problem you have here is the size of the profiles. Space on the

TS server is a logistical issue, not a technical one. Increase the

amount of storage and/or clean up the drive. It may be complicated, but

not a big *technical* one.

 

Having roaming profiles of 100MB+ is an invitation to slow logons and

corrupted profiles. I'm kind of surprised that this is not a bigger

issue than the space taken up on the TS server....

 

--

 

Regards,

Hank Arnold

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Directory Services

[Guest Marcus]

RE: Delete roaming profile on TS server.

 

Hi,

 

the deleteing of the cached profiles is not working 100%, I need to exclude

the following folder C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application

Data\VMware\hgfs.dat from beeing roamed. Note we run our server in an VMware

enviroment. How do i eclude that specific foldeR?

 

"Marcus" wrote:

> Hello,

>

> The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on to our terminal

> server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and these profiles take up a lot of

> space on the Terminal servers. Folder redirection is implemented on the

> following:

>

> *Application Data

> *Desktop

> *My Documents

> *Start menu

>

> Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs very time the

> users logs of. or does anyone have any better suggestion?

>

> All help is much appreciated

>

> Regards

>

> Marcus

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

RE: Delete roaming profile on TS server.

 

User Configuration - Administrative Templates - System - User

profiles

"Exclude directories in roaming profile"

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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=?Utf-8?B?TWFyY3Vz?= <Marcus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

12 feb 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hi,

>

> the deleteing of the cached profiles is not working 100%, I need

> to exclude the following folder C:\Documents and

> Settings\[username]\Application Data\VMware\hgfs.dat from beeing

> roamed. Note we run our server in an VMware enviroment. How do i

> eclude that specific foldeR?

>

> "Marcus" wrote:

>

>> Hello,

>>

>> The proplem I'm facing is that a lot of users are logging on to

>> our terminal server with big roaming profiles 100Mb+ and these

>> profiles take up a lot of space on the Terminal servers. Folder

>> redirection is implemented on the following:

>>

>> *Application Data

>> *Desktop

>> *My Documents

>> *Start menu

>>

>> Is it possible to delete some folders on the terminals severs

>> very time the users logs of. or does anyone have any better

>> suggestion?

>>

>> All help is much appreciated

>>

>> Regards

>>

>> Marcus