Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

[Guest Bob]

'opefully there is still time for me to learn to control our WinMe

computer. I've noticed since I got to messing around with it, that

System Restore points dissappearing for no reason I was aware of. I

don't run some of the Disk Cleaning Utilities nearly as much as I used

to. I used to Defragment alot (every night) because I had seen how

disk (file) fragmentation can degrade system response time.

 

Back then I never used System Restore points - was barely aware they

existed. It also seemed I never needed them.

 

Nowadays things have changed (Dunno why / wish I did)

System Restore points can really save your system.

 

In these circumstances, I am pretty sure that the Defragment utility

destroys Restore points.

 

Can some one please clarify this situation?

 

HTH

Bob from Oceanside

[Guest Dapper Dan]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

Bob

 

This NG is getting quieter and quieter so not sure if one of the guru's will

appear with expert knowledge. In the meantime, rest assured that disk

defragging does not negatively impact System Restore. The first thing to

check is to ensure that you have the patch for SR, namely KB290700.

 

HTH

 

Dan

 

SierraBrother@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> 'opefully there is still time for me to learn to control our WinMe

> computer. I've noticed since I got to messing around with it, that

> System Restore points dissappearing for no reason I was aware of. I

> don't run some of the Disk Cleaning Utilities nearly as much as I used

> to. I used to Defragment alot (every night) because I had seen how

> disk (file) fragmentation can degrade system response time.

>

> Back then I never used System Restore points - was barely aware they

> existed. It also seemed I never needed them.

>

> Nowadays things have changed (Dunno why / wish I did)

> System Restore points can really save your system.

>

> In these circumstances, I am pretty sure that the Defragment utility

> destroys Restore points.

>

> Can some one please clarify this situation?

>

> HTH

> Bob from Oceanside

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

Bob <SierraBrother@gmail.com> wrote:

> 'opefully there is still time for me to learn to control our WinMe

> computer. I've noticed since I got to messing around with it, that

> System Restore points dissappearing for no reason I was aware of.

 

One good reason for this is obviously your messing about

> I

> don't run some of the Disk Cleaning Utilities nearly as much as I used

> to. I used to Defragment alot (every night) because I had seen how

> disk (file) fragmentation can degrade system response time.

>

> Back then I never used System Restore points - was barely aware they

> existed. It also seemed I never needed them.

>

> Nowadays things have changed (Dunno why / wish I did)

> System Restore points can really save your system.

>

> In these circumstances, I am pretty sure that the Defragment utility

> destroys Restore points.

>

> Can some one please clarify this situation?

 

Answer. Stop fiddling <g> and instead explain exactly what is happening.

You have provided no details, no error messages, nothing other than

admitting you fiddled with your system and that system restore now no

longer works.

 

Meanwhile may I suggest you try the following quick test the results of

which might give a clue as to what is happening.

 

a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.

b) Create a manual checkpoint

Could you create a checkpoint?

c) Delete the shortcut

d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.

Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?

e) Reboot your PC

Was the checkpoint retained?

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[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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>

> Bob <SierraBrother@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > 'opefully there is still time for me to learn to control our WinMe

> > computer. I've noticed since I got to messing around with it, that

> > System Restore points dissappearing for no reason I was aware of.

>

> One good reason for this is obviously your messing about

>

> > I

> > don't run some of the Disk Cleaning Utilities nearly as much as I used

> > to. I used to Defragment alot (every night) because I had seen how

> > disk (file) fragmentation can degrade system response time.

> >

> > Back then I never used System Restore points - was barely aware they

> > existed. It also seemed I never needed them.

> >

> > Nowadays things have changed (Dunno why / wish I did)

> > System Restore points can really save your system.

> >

> > In these circumstances, I am pretty sure that the Defragment utility

> > destroys Restore points.

> >

> > Can some one please clarify this situation?

>

> Answer. Stop fiddling <g> and instead explain exactly what is happening.

> You have provided no details, no error messages, nothing other than

> admitting you fiddled with your system and that system restore now no

> longer works.

>

> Meanwhile may I suggest you try the following quick test the results of

> which might give a clue as to what is happening.

>

> a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.

> b) Create a manual checkpoint

> Could you create a checkpoint?

> c) Delete the shortcut

> d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.

> Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?

> e) Reboot your PC

> Was the checkpoint retained?

 

Don't mean to interfere, Mike, but oddly enough the same thing happened to

me after my last defragmentation with 'Diskeeper Light', I lost all of my

restore points and only realized the reason, when reading this post. I

followed your recommended procedure and was unable to retain the checkpoint,

the shortcut remained in the recycle bin and was not reproduced on the

desktop..

There were no error messages and the reboot is automatic.

Nothing else seems to be wrong.

<H>.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

Harry,

 

I personally doubt that running diskeeper light has much to do with your

problem otherwise we would have seen many such reports over the last eight

years. Defragging a system doesn't delete files from the system restore

archive. You say you were unable to retain a checkpoint after rebooting

your system. Something else is at play here, probably something you run

each time you boot your system but in the absence of information I'll

leave it to you to establish what that might be.

> shortcut remained in the recycle bin

 

As I would expect. System Restore has no interest in the recycle bin nor

its contents. Restored files are not restored from the recycle bin but

rather from the system restore archive.

--

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mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don't mean to interfere, Mike, but oddly enough the same thing

> happened to me after my last defragmentation with 'Diskeeper Light',

> I lost all of my restore points and only realized the reason, when

> reading this post. I followed your recommended procedure and was

> unable to retain the checkpoint, the shortcut remained in the recycle

> bin and was not reproduced on the desktop..

> There were no error messages and the reboot is automatic.

> Nothing else seems to be wrong.

> <H>.

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> Harry,

>

> I personally doubt that running diskeeper light has much to do with your

> problem otherwise we would have seen many such reports over the last eight

> years. Defragging a system doesn't delete files from the system restore

> archive. You say you were unable to retain a checkpoint after rebooting

> your system.

 

My mistake, I phrased it wrong: I was unable to retain the shortcut within

the checkpoint, it stayed in the recycle bin.

Since I don't have any problems creating a System CheckPoint and System

Restore works fine otherwise, I'll have to be on the look-out for any

inconsistencies in this area.

Thanks for the enlightenment, Mike.

 

Harry.

> Something else is at play here, probably something you run

> each time you boot your system but in the absence of information I'll

> leave it to you to establish what that might be.

>

> > shortcut remained in the recycle bin

>

> As I would expect. System Restore has no interest in the recycle bin nor

> its contents. Restored files are not restored from the recycle bin but

> rather from the system restore archive.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > Don't mean to interfere, Mike, but oddly enough the same thing

> > happened to me after my last defragmentation with 'Diskeeper Light',

> > I lost all of my restore points and only realized the reason, when

> > reading this post. I followed your recommended procedure and was

> > unable to retain the checkpoint, the shortcut remained in the recycle

> > bin and was not reproduced on the desktop..

> > There were no error messages and the reboot is automatic.

> > Nothing else seems to be wrong.

> > <H>.

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

At the risk of repeating myself THE RECYCLE BIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

SYSTEM RESTORE. System Restore does not use the recycle bin, it does not

undelete files from the recycle bin. After eight years I would have hoped

that you would know this.

> My mistake, I phrased it wrong: I was unable to retain the shortcut

> within the checkpoint, it stayed in the recycle bin.

 

Nonsensical. A checkpoint is exactly that, a snapshot frozen in time of

the state of the system at that point. So if snapshot/checkpoint "A" was

made when the shortcut/file or whatever was present, then if subsequently

the shortcut or file is deleted, restoring to snapshot/checkpoint "A" will

restore the deleted file or shortcut regardless of whether it is in the

recycle bin PROVIDED that the file is a) of a type monitored by system

restore (and shortcuts are) and b) the file/shortcut is in a monitored

location such as the desktop unless you have chosen to modify filelist.xml

and exclude that location.

--

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mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> My mistake, I phrased it wrong: I was unable to retain the shortcut

> within the checkpoint, it stayed in the recycle bin.

> Since I don't have any problems creating a System CheckPoint and

> System Restore works fine otherwise, I'll have to be on the look-out

> for any inconsistencies in this area.

> Thanks for the enlightenment, Mike.

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> At the risk of repeating myself THE RECYCLE BIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

> SYSTEM RESTORE. System Restore does not use the recycle bin, it does not

> undelete files from the recycle bin. After eight years I would have hoped

> that you would know this.

>

> > My mistake, I phrased it wrong: I was unable to retain the shortcut

> > within the checkpoint, it stayed in the recycle bin.

>

> Nonsensical. A checkpoint is exactly that, a snapshot frozen in time of

> the state of the system at that point. So if snapshot/checkpoint "A" was

> made when the shortcut/file or whatever was present, then if subsequently

> the shortcut or file is deleted, restoring to snapshot/checkpoint "A" will

> restore the deleted file or shortcut regardless of whether it is in the

> recycle bin PROVIDED that the file is a) of a type monitored by system

> restore (and shortcuts are) and b) the file/shortcut is in a monitored

> location such as the desktop unless you have chosen to modify filelist.xml

> and exclude that location.

 

Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

I don't go into details, as modifying filelist.xml and the like.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > My mistake, I phrased it wrong: I was unable to retain the shortcut

> > within the checkpoint, it stayed in the recycle bin.

> > Since I don't have any problems creating a System CheckPoint and

> > System Restore works fine otherwise, I'll have to be on the look-out

> > for any inconsistencies in this area.

> > Thanks for the enlightenment, Mike.

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

> Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

 

Yes, Shortcuts to a file or folder have a (hidden) LNK extension whereas

those to sites have a (hidden) URL extension. System Restore only

monitors LNK files, not URL files as it has no interest in user data,

That is why, in my initial post, I stated "a) Create a shortcut on your

desktop to a file" rather than a shortcut to an internet location or site

 

Repeating myself briefly.

Create shortcut

Create checkpoint to a file on the system

Delete shortcut

Rollback to checkpoint

The checkpoint should now be restored.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

> I don't go into details, as modifying filelist.xml and the like.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

Correction (Thanks G or perhaps that should be webster999)

> Create checkpoint to a file on the system

should, of course, have read

Create SHORTCUT to a file on the system.

 

Se what you're doing to me now Harry? I just can't even think straight

any more! <vbg>

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mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

>> Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

>

> Yes, Shortcuts to a file or folder have a (hidden) LNK extension

> whereas those to sites have a (hidden) URL extension. System Restore

> only monitors LNK files, not URL files as it has no interest in user

> data, That is why, in my initial post, I stated "a) Create a shortcut

> on your desktop to a file" rather than a shortcut to an internet

> location or site

> Repeating myself briefly.

> Create shortcut

> Create checkpoint to a file on the system

> Delete shortcut

> Rollback to checkpoint

> The checkpoint should now be restored.

>

>> Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

>> I don't go into details, as modifying filelist.xml and the like.

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> Correction (Thanks G or perhaps that should be webster999)

> > Create checkpoint to a file on the system

> should, of course, have read

> Create SHORTCUT to a file on the system.

>

> Se what you're doing to me now Harry? I just can't even think straight

> any more! <vbg>

 

My sentiments also, exactly, Mike.

I've gotten the drift on this by now and let you know where I stand when I'm

done.

Thanks, <H>.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

> Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:

>

> >> Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

> >

> > Yes, Shortcuts to a file or folder have a (hidden) LNK extension

> > whereas those to sites have a (hidden) URL extension. System Restore

> > only monitors LNK files, not URL files as it has no interest in user

> > data, That is why, in my initial post, I stated "a) Create a shortcut

> > on your desktop to a file" rather than a shortcut to an internet

> > location or site

> > Repeating myself briefly.

> > Create shortcut

> > Create checkpoint to a file on the system

> > Delete shortcut

> > Rollback to checkpoint

> > The checkpoint should now be restored.

> >

> >> Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

> >> I don't go into details, as modifying filelist.xml and the like.

>

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> > Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

>

> Yes, Shortcuts to a file or folder have a (hidden) LNK extension whereas

> those to sites have a (hidden) URL extension. System Restore only

> monitors LNK files, not URL files as it has no interest in user data,

> That is why, in my initial post, I stated "a) Create a shortcut on your

> desktop to a file" rather than a shortcut to an internet location or site

>

> Repeating myself briefly.

> Create shortcut

> Create checkpoint to a file on the system

> Delete shortcut

> Rollback to checkpoint

> The checkpoint should now be restored.

 

Restored it was, Mike, thank you, and leaving me with the conclusion, that

the removal of checkpoints must have been 'periodical', because nothing else

is effected negatively in any way.

I don't mind at all seeing my problems solved in this fashion.

<H>.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > Did I pick the wrong subject for the shortcut (Google website)?

> > I don't go into details, as modifying filelist.xml and the like.

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> Restored it was, Mike, thank you, and leaving me with the conclusion,

> that the removal of checkpoints must have been 'periodical', because

> nothing else is effected negatively in any way.

> I don't mind at all seeing my problems solved in this fashion.

> <H>.

 

Good. A result. I'd only be worried if your checkpoints regularly go

missing rather than just occasionally. How much space do you have

allocated to the archive? If a relatively small amount, as I do here,

then making a sequence of installs or uninstalls in close succession or if

using system restore to roll back through several checkpoints can cause

most checkpoints to be flushed unless the space allocated to the archive

is temporarily increased whilst all this activity is going on.

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[Guest webster72n]

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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > Restored it was, Mike, thank you, and leaving me with the conclusion,

> > that the removal of checkpoints must have been 'periodical', because

> > nothing else is effected negatively in any way.

> > I don't mind at all seeing my problems solved in this fashion.

> > <H>.

>

> Good. A result. I'd only be worried if your checkpoints regularly go

> missing rather than just occasionally. How much space do you have

> allocated to the archive?

 

1032 MB's and the way it looks to me, they are being flushed about every two

months or so.

Just didn't think it was time yet.

I do have Avast, which is interfering with SR, but don't know exactly to

what extent. <H>.

> If a relatively small amount, as I do here,

> then making a sequence of installs or uninstalls in close succession or if

> using system restore to roll back through several checkpoints can cause

> most checkpoints to be flushed unless the space allocated to the archive

> is temporarily increased whilst all this activity is going on.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> 1032 MB's and the way it looks to me, they are being flushed about

> every two months or so.

 

Checkpoints are FIFO so older checkpoints should be being dropped all the

time as new checkpoints are created. Not necessarily on a 1 for 1 basis

but often four or five will be removed at the same time.

> Just didn't think it was time yet.

> I do have Avast, which is interfering with SR, but don't know exactly

> to what extent. <H>.

 

 

In what way do you think that Avast is interfering with SR? Is it

preventing the creating of automatic checkpoints? Manual checkpoints?

Restoration?

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[Guest webster72n]

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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > 1032 MB's and the way it looks to me, they are being flushed about

> > every two months or so.

>

> Checkpoints are FIFO so older checkpoints should be being dropped all the

> time as new checkpoints are created. Not necessarily on a 1 for 1 basis

> but often four or five will be removed at the same time.

>

> > Just didn't think it was time yet.

> > I do have Avast, which is interfering with SR, but don't know exactly

> > to what extent. <H>.

>

>

> In what way do you think that Avast is interfering with SR?

 

From past discussions about the subject in this NG, I thought you were

familiar with the fact that Avast prevents the creation of automatic

checkpoints. Don't know if there would be other drawbacks, but I am willing

to trade this condition for the good performance (IMHO) of Avast.

> Is it

> preventing the creating of automatic checkpoints? Manual checkpoints?

> Restoration?

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>

>

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

Thanks.

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webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> From past discussions about the subject in this NG, I thought you were

> familiar with the fact that Avast prevents the creation of automatic

> checkpoints. Don't know if there would be other drawbacks, but I am

> willing to trade this condition for the good performance (IMHO) of

> Avast.

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

Mike:

I am the one to owe you "Thanks" and a whole lot more.

 

Harry.

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> Thanks.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > From past discussions about the subject in this NG, I thought you were

> > familiar with the fact that Avast prevents the creation of automatic

> > checkpoints. Don't know if there would be other drawbacks, but I am

> > willing to trade this condition for the good performance (IMHO) of

> > Avast.

>

[Guest Heather]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

Don't believe him......I have been using Avast since last August and I

have 2 - 3 months of Restore Points.......and they are all being made

automatically. Just checked them last night as a matter of fact.

 

Either he is telling *porkies*, or he is doing yet another dumb thing to

his computer. And I am quite sure that I would see this so-called

problem of Avast on either the antivirus or malware groups. It ain't

there. OTOH, I don't think Harry is quite there either.......(snicker).

 

XX Figgs

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> Thanks.

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> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> From past discussions about the subject in this NG, I thought you

>> were

>> familiar with the fact that Avast prevents the creation of automatic

>> checkpoints. Don't know if there would be other drawbacks, but I am

>> willing to trade this condition for the good performance (IMHO) of

>> Avast.

>

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

Don't believe him???

I am using Avast a lot longer than since last August and that condition was

common knowledge.

They may have changed/improved the program in the meantime. I even sent them

an email about a year ago or so with them replying that no changes could be

made at that time.

Are you sure you mean Avast and not AVG instead?

If the program is working without the flaw now, there must be a way for me

to correct the situation.

And you can save your "porkey" remarks!

 

Harry.

 

 

"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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> Don't believe him......I have been using Avast since last August and I

> have 2 - 3 months of Restore Points.......and they are all being made

> automatically. Just checked them last night as a matter of fact.

>

> Either he is telling *porkies*, or he is doing yet another dumb thing to

> his computer. And I am quite sure that I would see this so-called

> problem of Avast on either the antivirus or malware groups. It ain't

> there. OTOH, I don't think Harry is quite there either.......(snicker).

>

> XX Figgs

>

> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> > Thanks.

> > --

> > Mike Maltby

> > mike.maltby@gmail.com

> >

> >

> > webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> >> From past discussions about the subject in this NG, I thought you

> >> were

> >> familiar with the fact that Avast prevents the creation of automatic

> >> checkpoints. Don't know if there would be other drawbacks, but I am

> >> willing to trade this condition for the good performance (IMHO) of

> >> Avast.

> >

>

>

[Guest Heather]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my name

is Heather, not Harry!! (G)

 

Perhaps you should upgrade to XP, old guy.

 

 

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>

> Don't believe him???

> I am using Avast a lot longer than since last August and that

> condition was

> common knowledge.

> They may have changed/improved the program in the meantime. I even

> sent them

> an email about a year ago or so with them replying that no changes

> could be

> made at that time.

> Are you sure you mean Avast and not AVG instead?

> If the program is working without the flaw now, there must be a way

> for me

> to correct the situation.

> And you can save your "porkey" remarks!

>

> Harry.

>

>

> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:OqR3O$ebIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Don't believe him......I have been using Avast since last August and

>> I

>> have 2 - 3 months of Restore Points.......and they are all being made

>> automatically. Just checked them last night as a matter of fact.

>>

>> Either he is telling *porkies*, or he is doing yet another dumb thing

>> to

>> his computer. And I am quite sure that I would see this so-called

>> problem of Avast on either the antivirus or malware groups. It ain't

>> there. OTOH, I don't think Harry is quite there

>> either.......(snicker).

>>

>> XX Figgs

>>

>> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

>> news:uX9BJycbIHA.5768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > Thanks.

>> > --

>> > Mike Maltby

>> > mike.maltby@gmail.com

>> >

>> >

>> > webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> From past discussions about the subject in this NG, I thought you

>> >> were

>> >> familiar with the fact that Avast prevents the creation of

>> >> automatic

>> >> checkpoints. Don't know if there would be other drawbacks, but I

>> >> am

>> >> willing to trade this condition for the good performance (IMHO) of

>> >> Avast.

>> >

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my name

> is Heather, not Harry!! (G)

>

> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP,

 

Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this is an

ME group, YL. :)

>old guy.

>

>

> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ed2ZhTfbIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >

> > Don't believe him???

> > I am using Avast a lot longer than since last August and that

> > condition was

> > common knowledge.

> > They may have changed/improved the program in the meantime. I even

> > sent them

> > an email about a year ago or so with them replying that no changes

> > could be

> > made at that time.

> > Are you sure you mean Avast and not AVG instead?

> > If the program is working without the flaw now, there must be a way

> > for me

> > to correct the situation.

> > And you can save your "porkey" remarks!

> >

> > Harry.

> >

> >

> > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:OqR3O$ebIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> Don't believe him......I have been using Avast since last August and

> >> I

> >> have 2 - 3 months of Restore Points.......and they are all being made

> >> automatically. Just checked them last night as a matter of fact.

> >>

> >> Either he is telling *porkies*, or he is doing yet another dumb thing

> >> to

> >> his computer. And I am quite sure that I would see this so-called

> >> problem of Avast on either the antivirus or malware groups. It ain't

> >> there. OTOH, I don't think Harry is quite there

> >> either.......(snicker).

> >>

> >> XX Figgs

> >>

> >> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

> >> news:uX9BJycbIHA.5768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > Thanks.

> >> > --

> >> > Mike Maltby

> >> > mike.maltby@gmail.com

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> From past discussions about the subject in this NG, I thought you

> >> >> were

> >> >> familiar with the fact that Avast prevents the creation of

> >> >> automatic

> >> >> checkpoints. Don't know if there would be other drawbacks, but I

> >> >> am

> >> >> willing to trade this condition for the good performance (IMHO) of

> >> >> Avast.

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest Heather]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

 

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my

>> name

>> is Heather, not Harry!! (G)

>>

>> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP,

>

> Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this

> is an ME group, YL. :)<<<

 

It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are the

only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get into the

21st Century, old guy.

 

Young Lady.

[Guest webster72n]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

You've got that right, YL:

 

Your logic escapes my "tentacles", therefore I will refrain from further

"interference".

 

Old Guy

 

 

"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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>

> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23MDBbDnbIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >

> > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my

> >> name

> >> is Heather, not Harry!! (G)

> >>

> >> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP,

> >

> > Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this

> > is an ME group, YL. :)<<<

>

> It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are the

> only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get into the

> 21st Century, old guy.

>

> Young Lady.

>

>

[Guest Dapper Dan]

Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion

 

I've been on XP for a couple of years Heather (sounds like a disease,

doesn't it). However my wife's Win Me was replaced with a Vista Laptop a

couple of months ago.

Translation: I can now play with the Me all I want without disrupting dearly

beloved. It's been fun because there is no pressure to fix what I break, if

that makes any sense! Given this NG is virtually dead, I feel comfortable

coming back every once in a while looking for support for something I did

wrong, whether it's related to the Me, XP or Vista.

 

Dan

 

 

"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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>

> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23MDBbDnbIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my name

>>> is Heather, not Harry!! (G)

>>>

>>> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP,

>>

>> Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this is

>> an ME group, YL. :)<<<

>

> It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are the

> only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get into the

> 21st Century, old guy.

>

> Young Lady.

>

>