Guest Heather Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion LOL!! Can't remember how long it has been for me.....2.5 years?? Anyway, the old WinME is behind me and I don't think it is working. But it did cross my mind to mess about with it and learn more about stuff. And this news group is a good place to do that!! Get Mike to bail me out when I screw up, grin. So I totally understand what you are saying. Cheers from snowy Brampton......I think we got more yesterday than you did.....Heather "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message news:%23NUmHEpbIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I've been on XP for a couple of years Heather (sounds like a disease, > doesn't it). However my wife's Win Me was replaced with a Vista Laptop > a couple of months ago. > Translation: I can now play with the Me all I want without disrupting > dearly beloved. It's been fun because there is no pressure to fix what > I break, if that makes any sense! Given this NG is virtually dead, I > feel comfortable coming back every once in a while looking for support > for something I did wrong, whether it's related to the Me, XP or > Vista. > > Dan > > > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:eyX58onbIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23MDBbDnbIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my >>>> name >>>> is Heather, not Harry!! (G) >>>> >>>> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP, >>> >>> Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and >>> this is an ME group, YL. :)<<< >> >> It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are >> the only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get >> into the 21st Century, old guy. >> >> Young Lady. >> >> > >
Guest Dapper Dan Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion Looked like maybe 15cm-20cm in Oakville (6"-8" for our American friends). Nice light stuff so the snow blower ran exceptionally well today, unlike some of our earlier storms. Hopefully the end is in sight; another few weeks and Spring will set in which basically starts our golf season! Dan "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:%23p7slJpbIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > LOL!! Can't remember how long it has been for me.....2.5 years?? Anyway, > the old WinME is behind me and I don't think it is working. But it did > cross my mind to mess about with it and learn more about stuff. > > And this news group is a good place to do that!! Get Mike to bail me out > when I screw up, grin. So I totally understand what you are saying. > > Cheers from snowy Brampton......I think we got more yesterday than you > did.....Heather > > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message > news:%23NUmHEpbIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> I've been on XP for a couple of years Heather (sounds like a disease, >> doesn't it). However my wife's Win Me was replaced with a Vista Laptop a >> couple of months ago. >> Translation: I can now play with the Me all I want without disrupting >> dearly beloved. It's been fun because there is no pressure to fix what I >> break, if that makes any sense! Given this NG is virtually dead, I feel >> comfortable coming back every once in a while looking for support for >> something I did wrong, whether it's related to the Me, XP or Vista. >> >> Dan >> >> >> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:eyX58onbIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23MDBbDnbIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my >>>>> name >>>>> is Heather, not Harry!! (G) >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP, >>>> >>>> Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this >>>> is an ME group, YL. :)<<< >>> >>> It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are the >>> only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get into the >>> 21st Century, old guy. >>> >>> Young Lady. >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Bob Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion On Feb 13, 2:37 pm, "Dapper Dan" <dapper...@home.com> wrote: > I've been on XP for a couple of years Heather (sounds like a disease, > doesn't it). However my wife's Win Me was replaced with a Vista Laptop a > couple of months ago. > Translation: I can now play with the Me all I want without disrupting dearly > beloved. It's been fun because there is no pressure to fix what I break, if > that makes any sense! Given this NG is virtually dead, I feel comfortable > coming back every once in a while looking for support for something I did > wrong, whether it's related to the Me, XP or Vista. > > Dan > > "Heather" <fig...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > > news:eyX58onbIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > "webster72n" <webster...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:%23MDBbDnbIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > >> "Heather" <fig...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > >>news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my name > >>> is Heather, not Harry!! (G) > > >>> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP, > > >> Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this is > >> an ME group, YL. :)<<< > > > It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are the > > only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get into the > > 21st Century, old guy. > > > Young Lady.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Hmmm. Maybe its not the fiddling, just the bow. Or maybe the resin? I did ask about the XML file list as I did notice it was quite a piece of work. And Mike M's elaboration got my attention. Fortunately or not, I haven't fiddled at all beyond looking <yet>... I think I may have mis-spoke. I mentioned ScanDisk but I should have said what-ever-that-thing is-called-that-one-edits-the-Scheduler-to- specify-when-and-how-often it runs. I'm sure you all have it right if I can just describe it right. Tonight I am bushed and will probably get it wronger ;) I will have more tomorrow. One other thing about the Scheduler... that must be messed up too is it seems when it gets to the scheduled date/time, it then asks for a confirmation before it gets down to business. I thought the point of scheduling it was to run it at times when you are away from your computer (sleeping for example). A confirmation is not useful at such a time. So, when I get to my winME computer planning to do some work, if I find the confirmation request from the Scheduler, I almost always do NOT confirm. And I think I've noticed that I was keeping about two months worth of restore points (same thing as check point?). In November or so I went to a much larger C drive and I seem to be keeping more restore points (except, dare I say it, when I loose them because I let the scheduler go ahead and run disk housekeeping even though I'd rather it did it when I was sleeping, if you know what I mean). Night'all. Bob in Oceanside
Guest Heather Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion Hi Bob......I am falling asleep myself. But wait till tomorrow and Mike will sort you out. Is that "thingy" called Defrag?? And to this day, I have never used a Task Scheduler. Just rather do it myself. With my luck I would mess it up. Night.....Heather "Bob" <SierraBrother@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ead49ff5-8730-41f7-b9da-eb2dda59d5dd@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com... Hmmm. Maybe its not the fiddling, just the bow. Or maybe the resin? I did ask about the XML file list as I did notice it was quite a piece of work. And Mike M's elaboration got my attention. Fortunately or not, I haven't fiddled at all beyond looking <yet>... I think I may have mis-spoke. I mentioned ScanDisk but I should have said what-ever-that-thing is-called-that-one-edits-the-Scheduler-to- specify-when-and-how-often it runs. I'm sure you all have it right if I can just describe it right. Tonight I am bushed and will probably get it wronger ;) I will have more tomorrow. One other thing about the Scheduler... that must be messed up too is it seems when it gets to the scheduled date/time, it then asks for a confirmation before it gets down to business. I thought the point of scheduling it was to run it at times when you are away from your computer (sleeping for example). A confirmation is not useful at such a time. So, when I get to my winME computer planning to do some work, if I find the confirmation request from the Scheduler, I almost always do NOT confirm. And I think I've noticed that I was keeping about two months worth of restore points (same thing as check point?). In November or so I went to a much larger C drive and I seem to be keeping more restore points (except, dare I say it, when I loose them because I let the scheduler go ahead and run disk housekeeping even though I'd rather it did it when I was sleeping, if you know what I mean). Night'all. Bob in Oceanside
Guest Joan Archer Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion I think you were the last one weren't you Heather <g> mine is still connected to my network although not turned on as much since Kelly moved out but I do occasionally turn it on and John is supposed to be using it for storage of his guinea pig records. Looking out at the sunshine here, we've had some for the last 2 or 3 days now thank goodness, we need it to dry everywhere up <g> it's still cold though brrrrrr Joan "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:#p7slJpbIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > LOL!! Can't remember how long it has been for me.....2.5 years?? Anyway, > the old WinME is behind me and I don't think it is working. But it did > cross my mind to mess about with it and learn more about stuff. > > And this news group is a good place to do that!! Get Mike to bail me out > when I screw up, grin. So I totally understand what you are saying. > > Cheers from snowy Brampton......I think we got more yesterday than you > did.....Heather > > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message > news:%23NUmHEpbIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> I've been on XP for a couple of years Heather (sounds like a disease, >> doesn't it). However my wife's Win Me was replaced with a Vista Laptop a >> couple of months ago. >> Translation: I can now play with the Me all I want without disrupting >> dearly beloved. It's been fun because there is no pressure to fix what I >> break, if that makes any sense! Given this NG is virtually dead, I feel >> comfortable coming back every once in a while looking for support for >> something I did wrong, whether it's related to the Me, XP or Vista. >> >> Dan >> >> >> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:eyX58onbIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23MDBbDnbIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my >>>>> name >>>>> is Heather, not Harry!! (G) >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP, >>>> >>>> Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this >>>> is an ME group, YL. :)<<< >>> >>> It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are the >>> only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get into the >>> 21st Century, old guy. >>> >>> Young Lady. >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Bob Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion Hello all, Dapper Dan, Heather, Mike M, Webster72... Top O' the Morning to you. Now that I've had all the sleep I can stand, here's a sitrep... I'm loosing Restore Points. Yesterday I shot from the hip and blamed ScanDisk. I've read your insights and thank you for that. On further reflection, it isn't necessarily ScanDisk. In fact Mike M has almost convinced me it isn't ScanDisk. I admit I don't exactly know what it is. I'm pretty sure it isn't my fiddling, unless Mike is refer to my looking under the hood (in this case, looking at the XML file list with a text editor, probably Notepad). I'm tempted to twiddle more but so far I'm holding to the position "if it ain't broke don't fix it." And System Restore is not broken. At least not totally. I just checked and there are five February Restore Points in the kitty now. On the other hand, when I checked, late January I believe, I had a dozen or more Points for January but now they are gone. I was unhappy at that time for loosing a couple about 30 for November and December. I think It is something tied to the Maintenance Wizard (as ScanDisk and Defragment are) and scheduled for periodic running thru the Maintenance Wizard Schedule function. Perhaps the Delete Unnecessary Files function is out-of-control? Some times (Most times? I don't recall.) when I have wanted to defragment, I opted to run it thru the Maintenance Wizard, NOT thru the Accessories menu. And sometimes I run it in SafeMode (probably from the SafeMode Help Menus). In regular mode I try to remember to pull the Ethernet cable from the router when I do this sort of maintenance. I haven't been turning off the AV. Maybe I'd get done faster if I did. ScanDisk has been running fairly often. Related to that, plain old System Shutdown stopped working a few weeks back. I've been planning to ask about that but just haven't gotten around to it. Saw that problem so much with Win98Se that I no longer consider it unusual. A somewhat carefully timed System Restart is a good work around. For at least the last month and probably a lot longer, I have the Delete Unnecessary Files function scheduled to run on the 1st of every month deleting "unnecessary" 1.Temporary Internet files, 2.Recycle bin (who was asking about this?), 3. Old ScanDisk files ("in the Root folder"), 4.Temporary files - HMMMM, maybe this dude?, 4.1 Temporary PC Health files, 4.2 Application Debugging information. Are RestorePoints ever considered "Unnecessary Files"? Anway, I am not dead-in-the-water, I have one or two backup drives. Unfortunately even the most recent of these is probably a year old. Kicking out McAfee + ZA and adding GriSoft are the main additions I can think of. Can the WinDiff program help out here? On Feb 14, 5:13 am, "Joan Archer" <archer_j...@nospam.com> wrote: > I think you were the last one weren't you Heather <g> mine is still > connected to my network although not turned on as much since Kelly moved out > but I do occasionally turn it on and John is supposed to be using it for > storage of his guinea pig records. > Looking out at the sunshine here, we've had some for the last 2 or 3 days > now thank goodness, we need it to dry everywhere up <g> it's still cold > though brrrrrr > Joan > > "Heather" <fig...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > > news:#p7slJpbIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > LOL!! Can't remember how long it has been for me.....2.5 years?? Anyway, > > the old WinME is behind me and I don't think it is working. But it did > > cross my mind to mess about with it and learn more about stuff. > > > And this news group is a good place to do that!! Get Mike to bail me out > > when I screw up, grin. So I totally understand what you are saying. > > > Cheers from snowy Brampton......I think we got more yesterday than you > > did.....Heather > > > "Dapper Dan" <dapper...@home.com> wrote in message > >news:%23NUmHEpbIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> I've been on XP for a couple of years Heather (sounds like a disease, > >> doesn't it). However my wife's Win Me was replaced with a Vista Laptop a > >> couple of months ago. > >> Translation: I can now play with the Me all I want without disrupting > >> dearly beloved. It's been fun because there is no pressure to fix what I > >> break, if that makes any sense! Given this NG is virtually dead, I feel > >> comfortable coming back every once in a while looking for support for > >> something I did wrong, whether it's related to the Me, XP or Vista. > > >> Dan > > >> "Heather" <fig...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > >>news:eyX58onbIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > >>> "webster72n" <webster...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>news:%23MDBbDnbIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > >>>> "Heather" <fig...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > >>>>news:Og%23SEbgbIHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>>>> I have absolutely no problem with AVAST!! (not AVG) But then, my > >>>>> name > >>>>> is Heather, not Harry!! (G) > > >>>>> Perhaps you should upgrade to XP, > > >>>> Perhaps you shouldn't have replied, because you are using XP and this > >>>> is an ME group, YL. :)<<< > > >>> It took you 12 hours to come up with that observation?? And you are the > >>> only one using ME, btw.....other than Dapper Dan. Time to get into the > >>> 21st Century, old guy. > > >>> Young Lady.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Guest Mike M Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Re: Rhyme but no Reason to System Restore points deletion You don't understand system restore do you? Not that that's a problem, we've all been in that position. Checkpoints are removed on a FIFO basis, slowly building up until the space occupied in the _RESTORE archive goes over a certain figure, let's say 80%, at which point checkpoints together with associated archived files are deleted until the space occupied drops below another figure, say 50%. Since the number of changes between checkpoints can vary the space required to store a checkpoint and associated files varies widely which is why the user variable is the space allocated to the archive rather than the number of checkpoints. This shouldn't cause problems as a user has to be either reckless or desperate to use system restore to roll their system back more than a week, perhaps two at most. If a user wants to roll their system back further they should be restoring a back-up copy rather than using system restore. I'll leave it others to comment if they wish on the rest of your post however you might find it beneficial to concentrate on one problem at a time and start a new thread for each problem once the first has been resolved. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com Bob <SierraBrother@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, Dapper Dan, Heather, Mike M, Webster72... Top O' the > Morning to you. > > Now that I've had all the sleep I can stand, here's a sitrep... > > I'm loosing Restore Points. Yesterday I shot from the hip and blamed > ScanDisk. I've read your insights and thank you for that. > > On further reflection, it isn't necessarily ScanDisk. In fact Mike M > has almost convinced me it isn't ScanDisk. I admit I don't exactly > know what it is. I'm pretty sure it isn't my fiddling, unless Mike is > refer to my looking under the hood (in this case, looking at the XML > file list with a text editor, probably Notepad). I'm tempted to > twiddle more but so far I'm holding to the position "if it ain't broke > don't fix it." > > And System Restore is not broken. At least not totally. I just > checked and there are five February Restore Points in the kitty now. > On the other hand, when I checked, late January I believe, I had a > dozen or more Points for January but now they are gone. I was unhappy > at that time for loosing a couple about 30 for November and December. > > I think It is something tied to the Maintenance Wizard (as ScanDisk > and Defragment are) and scheduled for periodic running thru the > Maintenance Wizard Schedule function. Perhaps the Delete Unnecessary > Files function is out-of-control? > > Some times (Most times? I don't recall.) when I have wanted to > defragment, I opted to run it thru the Maintenance Wizard, NOT thru > the Accessories menu. And sometimes I run it in SafeMode (probably > from the SafeMode Help Menus). In regular mode I try to remember to > pull the Ethernet cable from the router when I do this sort of > maintenance. I haven't been turning off the AV. Maybe I'd get done > faster if I did. > > ScanDisk has been running fairly often. Related to that, plain old > System Shutdown stopped working a few weeks back. I've been planning > to ask about that but just haven't gotten around to it. Saw that > problem so much with Win98Se that I no longer consider it unusual. A > somewhat carefully timed System Restart is a good work around. > > For at least the last month and probably a lot longer, I have the > Delete Unnecessary Files function scheduled to run on the 1st of every > month deleting "unnecessary" 1.Temporary Internet files, 2.Recycle bin > (who was asking about this?), 3. Old ScanDisk files ("in the Root > folder"), 4.Temporary files - HMMMM, maybe this dude?, 4.1 Temporary > PC Health files, 4.2 Application Debugging information. Are > RestorePoints ever considered "Unnecessary Files"? > > Anway, I am not dead-in-the-water, I have one or two backup drives. > Unfortunately even the most recent of these is probably a year old. > Kicking out McAfee + ZA and adding GriSoft are the main additions I > can think of. > > Can the WinDiff program help out here?
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