Vista Home Premium and Terminal Licensing

[Guest Saral6978]

I'm hoping I can explain this correctly...Our Citrix server runs on Windows

2000 and as a requirement has terminal services installed - our applications

are accessed via a Citrix Metaframe website. However, the licensing server

in our organization is a Windows 2003 R2 Server. Because the clients connecting

to our Citrix server (win2k terminal server) are XP Pros, our 2003 licensing

server gives them a "built-in" license that never expires. I have a user

that purchased a Vista Home Premium Edition and wants to be able to connect

to our Citrix server from home, but it is my understanding that they will

only be given a temporary license, since that is what happens when users

with XP Home connect to our Citrix, and then that license expires in about

120 days. If I purchased a single windows 2003 user or device cal for this

particular user, will this user be able to obtain a valid license for Home

Edition that will never expire? Or because it is home edition, it will never

be granted a permanent license?

 

Thank you!

 

Sara

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Vista Home Premium and Terminal Licensing

 

First of all, the temporary license will expire after 90 days, not

120.

Second, you cannot buy a Per User TS CAL, since your Terminal

Servers run W2K, and they don't know what a Per User TS CALs is.

W2K is always licensed Per Device.

A purchased TS CAL always has an expiration date, 52-89 days after

issueing, but there is also an automatic renewal process, so that

shouldn't be a problem. To the user, it will seem that the license

never expires.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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Saral6978 <sloberg@tlccompanies.com> wrote on 15 feb 2008 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I'm hoping I can explain this correctly...Our Citrix server runs

> on Windows 2000 and as a requirement has terminal services

> installed - our applications are accessed via a Citrix Metaframe

> website. However, the licensing server in our organization is a

> Windows 2003 R2 Server. Because the clients connecting to our

> Citrix server (win2k terminal server) are XP Pros, our 2003

> licensing server gives them a "built-in" license that never

> expires. I have a user that purchased a Vista Home Premium

> Edition and wants to be able to connect to our Citrix server

> from home, but it is my understanding that they will only be

> given a temporary license, since that is what happens when users

> with XP Home connect to our Citrix, and then that license

> expires in about 120 days. If I purchased a single windows 2003

> user or device cal for this particular user, will this user be

> able to obtain a valid license for Home Edition that will never

> expire? Or because it is home edition, it will never be granted

> a permanent license?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Sara

[Guest Saral6978]

Re: Vista Home Premium and Terminal Licensing

 

Vera, thank you so much for the reply.

 

So, if I purchase 1 TS Device CAL and install it on my 2003 licensing server,

when that client attempts to connect he should be assigned that TS license

for his Vista Home PC and we will be good to go?

 

Thanks,

 

Sara

 

Hello Vera Noest [MVP],

> First of all, the temporary license will expire after 90 days, not

> 120.

> Second, you cannot buy a Per User TS CAL, since your Terminal

> Servers run W2K, and they don't know what a Per User TS CALs is.

> W2K is always licensed Per Device.

> A purchased TS CAL always has an expiration date, 52-89 days after

> issueing, but there is also an automatic renewal process, so that

> shouldn't be a problem. To the user, it will seem that the license

> never expires.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> Saral6978 <sloberg@tlccompanies.com> wrote on 15 feb 2008 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

>> I'm hoping I can explain this correctly...Our Citrix server runs on

>> Windows 2000 and as a requirement has terminal services installed -

>> our applications are accessed via a Citrix Metaframe website.

>> However, the licensing server in our organization is a Windows 2003

>> R2 Server. Because the clients connecting to our Citrix server

>> (win2k terminal server) are XP Pros, our 2003 licensing server gives

>> them a "built-in" license that never expires. I have a user that

>> purchased a Vista Home Premium Edition and wants to be able to

>> connect to our Citrix server from home, but it is my understanding

>> that they will only be given a temporary license, since that is what

>> happens when users with XP Home connect to our Citrix, and then that

>> license expires in about 120 days. If I purchased a single windows

>> 2003 user or device cal for this particular user, will this user be

>> able to obtain a valid license for Home Edition that will never

>> expire? Or because it is home edition, it will never be granted a

>> permanent license?

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>> Sara

>>

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Vista Home Premium and Terminal Licensing

 

I *believe* so, yes.

Disclaimer: I have never tested this, and like most others, I'm

utterly confused by all the different versions of Vista and their

features or lack thereof.

I know that you cannot use Vista Home to connect *to* with rdp, but

you should be able to use it as an rdp client. And in fact, you are

already using it as such, albeit on a temporary license. So yes, I

would proceed like this.

 

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

Saral6978 <sloberg@tlccompanies.com> wrote on 15 feb 2008 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Vera, thank you so much for the reply.

>

> So, if I purchase 1 TS Device CAL and install it on my 2003

> licensing server, when that client attempts to connect he should

> be assigned that TS license for his Vista Home PC and we will be

> good to go?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sara

>

> Hello Vera Noest [MVP],

>

>> First of all, the temporary license will expire after 90 days,

>> not 120.

>> Second, you cannot buy a Per User TS CAL, since your Terminal

>> Servers run W2K, and they don't know what a Per User TS CALs

>> is. W2K is always licensed Per Device.

>> A purchased TS CAL always has an expiration date, 52-89 days

>> after issueing, but there is also an automatic renewal process,

>> so that shouldn't be a problem. To the user, it will seem that

>> the license never expires.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>> Saral6978 <sloberg@tlccompanies.com> wrote on 15 feb 2008 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>>> I'm hoping I can explain this correctly...Our Citrix server

>>> runs on Windows 2000 and as a requirement has terminal

>>> services installed - our applications are accessed via a

>>> Citrix Metaframe website. However, the licensing server in our

>>> organization is a Windows 2003 R2 Server. Because the clients

>>> connecting to our Citrix server (win2k terminal server) are XP

>>> Pros, our 2003 licensing server gives them a "built-in"

>>> license that never expires. I have a user that purchased a

>>> Vista Home Premium Edition and wants to be able to connect to

>>> our Citrix server from home, but it is my understanding that

>>> they will only be given a temporary license, since that is

>>> what happens when users with XP Home connect to our Citrix,

>>> and then that license expires in about 120 days. If I

>>> purchased a single windows 2003 user or device cal for this

>>> particular user, will this user be able to obtain a valid

>>> license for Home Edition that will never expire? Or because

>>> it is home edition, it will never be granted a permanent

>>> license?

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Sara

[Guest Saral6978]

Re: Vista Home Premium and Terminal Licensing

 

Thank you, Vera!

 

I guess it's worth a test anyway. It's only $80 for the license so we'll

see if it does the trick for them.

 

Thanks!

 

Sara

> I *believe* so, yes.

> Disclaimer: I have never tested this, and like most others, I'm

> utterly confused by all the different versions of Vista and their

> features or lack thereof.

> I know that you cannot use Vista Home to connect *to* with rdp, but

> you should be able to use it as an rdp client. And in fact, you are

> already using it as such, albeit on a temporary license. So yes, I

> would proceed like this.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> Saral6978 <sloberg@tlccompanies.com> wrote on 15 feb 2008 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

>> Vera, thank you so much for the reply.

>>

>> So, if I purchase 1 TS Device CAL and install it on my 2003 licensing

>> server, when that client attempts to connect he should be assigned

>> that TS license for his Vista Home PC and we will be good to go?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Sara

>>

>> Hello Vera Noest [MVP],

>>

>>> First of all, the temporary license will expire after 90 days,

>>> not 120.

>>> Second, you cannot buy a Per User TS CAL, since your Terminal

>>> Servers run W2K, and they don't know what a Per User TS CALs

>>> is. W2K is always licensed Per Device.

>>> A purchased TS CAL always has an expiration date, 52-89 days

>>> after issueing, but there is also an automatic renewal process,

>>> so that shouldn't be a problem. To the user, it will seem that

>>> the license never expires.

>>> _________________________________________________________

>>> Vera Noest

>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>> Saral6978 <sloberg@tlccompanies.com> wrote on 15 feb 2008 in

>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>>> I'm hoping I can explain this correctly...Our Citrix server runs on

>>>> Windows 2000 and as a requirement has terminal services installed -

>>>> our applications are accessed via a Citrix Metaframe website.

>>>> However, the licensing server in our organization is a Windows 2003

>>>> R2 Server. Because the clients connecting to our Citrix server

>>>> (win2k terminal server) are XP Pros, our 2003 licensing server

>>>> gives them a "built-in" license that never expires. I have a user

>>>> that purchased a Vista Home Premium Edition and wants to be able to

>>>> connect to our Citrix server from home, but it is my understanding

>>>> that they will only be given a temporary license, since that is

>>>> what happens when users with XP Home connect to our Citrix, and

>>>> then that license expires in about 120 days. If I purchased a

>>>> single windows 2003 user or device cal for this particular user,

>>>> will this user be able to obtain a valid license for Home Edition

>>>> that will never expire? Or because it is home edition, it will

>>>> never be granted a permanent license?

>>>>

>>>> Thank you!

>>>>

>>>> Sara

>>>>