DVD Drive install problem

[Guest ULguy]

Hello All,

A friend of mind owns a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop computer that came with

a CD-ROM drive only. I tried to Add a Lite-on DVD-RW burner and had a problem

doing so. Here are the details:

 

Original Dell drive (CD-rom) has jumper on "Cable select", IDE conn is "end

" of Cable. No audio cable attached (does has vol/headphone jack - odd that

it wasn't supplied). The Dell Manual stated in quotes " 8. Ensure that the

jumper setting for the new drive is set to "Cable select" (see the

documentation that came with the new drive for information). ". However the

Lite-on documentation says the jumper should be at either master or slave.

Too make a long story short the computer would not boot up at all, to the

computer would not recognizie one of the drives, were the results. Since I

was strapped for time (an appointment I could not miss) I ultimately just

replaced his cd-rom drive with the dvd-rw drive and kept all the original

jumper/cable connections, except that I added the missing audio cable.

Everything works fine. Computer recognizes the new drive. He could use

computer, and burner. After getting home from Appointment I realized that I

probably erred. I believe that I should have had the top bay to be the

DVD-rw burner with jumper set to "Master". Have the "end " IDE connector

plugged in. And since that drive also had a headphone jack, connect the

missing cable. Place old CD-Rom drive in lower, 2nd bay, and have jumper set

to "slave", and connect "middle" IDE connector. I believe that would solve

the problem, and was my original / gut feeling when starting this. However

the Dell doc says... and I checked , yes for installing a 2ND drive, not just

a NEW drive!

So my questions are: 1) Was my gut feeling right and I should have connected

everything as above , or am I missing something here? 2) Which Documentation

took precedence? The Dell, which I assumed knows the MTHRBD, or the Lite-on,

which knows the drive? 3) Does it matter which ribbon connector (IDE) goes on

which drive ( for ex. "middle" IDE conn to "master" drive which happens to be

in lower bay of tower, not the normal top bay location).

 

I've done several computers in the past. Even worked with more complex

issues, and never had a problem This "Simply" task making me feel like a

dummy. This is also the first system I seen with "cable select" actually

being used. Everything has always been "master/slave" in my realm. So

finally info on "cable select" would prehaps enlighten me.

Thank you all for your help in my confusion.

[Guest PD]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

On Feb 16, 3:04 pm, ULguy <UL...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> So my questions are: 1) Was my gut feeling right and I should have connected

> everything as above , or am I missing something here?  2) Which Documentation

> took precedence? The Dell, which I assumed knows the MTHRBD, or the Lite-on,

> which knows the drive? 3) Does it matter which ribbon connector (IDE) goes on

> which drive ( for ex. "middle" IDE conn to "master" drive which happens to be

>  in lower bay of tower, not the normal top bay location).

 

Follow the Lite-On directions for installing the drive and use the

standard master/slave settings, and the standard middle/end

connectors. Put the drives in the bays that make such a hookup the

easiest.

[Guest PaulMaudib]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:04:01 -0800, ULguy

<ULguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hello All,

>A friend of mind owns a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop computer that came with

>a CD-ROM drive only. I tried to Add a Lite-on DVD-RW burner and had a problem

>doing so. Here are the details:

>

>Original Dell drive (CD-rom) has jumper on "Cable select", IDE conn is "end

>" of Cable. No audio cable attached (does has vol/headphone jack - odd that

>it wasn't supplied). The Dell Manual stated in quotes " 8. Ensure that the

>jumper setting for the new drive is set to "Cable select" (see the

>documentation that came with the new drive for information). ". However the

>Lite-on documentation says the jumper should be at either master or slave.

>Too make a long story short the computer would not boot up at all, to the

>computer would not recognizie one of the drives, were the results. Since I

>was strapped for time (an appointment I could not miss) I ultimately just

>replaced his cd-rom drive with the dvd-rw drive and kept all the original

>jumper/cable connections, except that I added the missing audio cable.

>Everything works fine. Computer recognizes the new drive. He could use

>computer, and burner. After getting home from Appointment I realized that I

>probably erred. I believe that I should have had the top bay to be the

>DVD-rw burner with jumper set to "Master". Have the "end " IDE connector

>plugged in. And since that drive also had a headphone jack, connect the

>missing cable. Place old CD-Rom drive in lower, 2nd bay, and have jumper set

>to "slave", and connect "middle" IDE connector. I believe that would solve

>the problem, and was my original / gut feeling when starting this. However

>the Dell doc says... and I checked , yes for installing a 2ND drive, not just

>a NEW drive!

>So my questions are: 1) Was my gut feeling right and I should have connected

>everything as above , or am I missing something here? 2) Which Documentation

>took precedence? The Dell, which I assumed knows the MTHRBD, or the Lite-on,

>which knows the drive? 3) Does it matter which ribbon connector (IDE) goes on

>which drive ( for ex. "middle" IDE conn to "master" drive which happens to be

> in lower bay of tower, not the normal top bay location).

>

>I've done several computers in the past. Even worked with more complex

>issues, and never had a problem This "Simply" task making me feel like a

>dummy. This is also the first system I seen with "cable select" actually

>being used. Everything has always been "master/slave" in my realm. So

>finally info on "cable select" would prehaps enlighten me.

>Thank you all for your help in my confusion.

 

And this has WHAT to do with XP? Oh, right, NOTHING. This is a

purely hardware related question and does not belong HERE.

 

Ask elsewhere

[Guest MAP]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

Been there done that. A couple of years ago I swapped out my dvd drive with

a newer one on my Dell,set it to cable select just like the second drive

installed, and my system would not even bootup, after retracing what I did

and getting nowhere I decieded to unplug all of my

Peripheral's (printer scanner etc...) usb connections and it booted up just

fine.Shut it back down and plugged them back in and it's been going ever

since. Like you I was scratching my head as to what happened and posted

here,the answer that I got (from an MVP that I trust) is "$hit happens".

 

--

Mike Pawlak

[Guest ULguy]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

> Follow the Lite-On directions for installing the drive and use the

> standard master/slave settings, and the standard middle/end

> connectors. Put the drives in the bays that make such a hookup the

> easiest.

>

Thanks for the response. It is what I wanted to do, but the DELL doc threw

me off.

[Guest ULguy]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

> And this has WHAT to do with XP? Oh, right, NOTHING. This is a

> purely hardware related question and does not belong HERE.

>

> Ask elsewhere

>

>Thank you for being rude. Topics that doesn't quite fit in a specific area seems quite fit for the "XP General" category. After all, everyone that has a computer has to deal with drives regardless of make, model, or operating system. I mentioned that the drive was not recognise so it could be XP related. Besides an FAQ about these discussion groups indicated I would get more responses if I placed question in the XP General group. You obviously have deeper problems than to provide a productive response.

[Guest ULguy]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

Thanks for the input. It's good to know others have encountered similar

problems. Odd that unplugging everything eventually resolved tyour problem.

In my case the first time when system would not boot up my friend thought

monitor died. The second time, after changing jumper on Lite-on to 'master'

system booted up, but would not recognize 2nd drive. I'll be seeing him next

weekend, and hope to resolve all by then. I hope I don't have to tell him

"$hit happens". LOL

--

ULguy

 

 

"MAP" wrote:

> Been there done that. A couple of years ago I swapped out my dvd drive with

> a newer one on my Dell,set it to cable select just like the second drive

> installed, and my system would not even bootup, after retracing what I did

> and getting nowhere I decieded to unplug all of my

> Peripheral's (printer scanner etc...) usb connections and it booted up just

> fine.Shut it back down and plugged them back in and it's been going ever

> since. Like you I was scratching my head as to what happened and posted

> here,the answer that I got (from an MVP that I trust) is "$hit happens".

>

> --

> Mike Pawlak

>

>

>

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

ULguy <ULguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>> Follow the Lite-On directions for installing the drive and use the

>> standard master/slave settings, and the standard middle/end

>> connectors. Put the drives in the bays that make such a hookup the

>> easiest.

>>

>Thanks for the response. It is what I wanted to do, but the DELL doc threw

>me off.

 

Be sure to let us know if that worked.

[Guest ULguy]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

 

Ok ....Updated info. Past weekend reinstalled drives via the original

configuration that I thought would work, and It works just fine. The DELL

Docs is Flawed in saying that "when adding a 2nd drive, use "cable select".

I do appreciate the help. Thanks!

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: DVD Drive install problem

 

ULguy <ULguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Ok ....Updated info. Past weekend reinstalled drives via the original

>configuration that I thought would work, and It works just fine. The DELL

>Docs is Flawed in saying that "when adding a 2nd drive, use "cable select".

 

So... if I remember right, you were trying to install a Lite-On drive.

The instructions that came with that drive worked, right?