Backing up the registry?

[Guest Xantipis]

Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

Micrsoft.

 

Thanks

[Guest Chris]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

 

"Xantipis" <MPM102@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

> If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

> Micrsoft.

>

> Thanks

>

>

 

hi,

when you back up the reg you create a file, you have to select where to save

the file. i would just start my burning software, go to the location i

stored the backup in, and burn that file to CD. but thats just what i would

do. Chris

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

 

"Xantipis" <MPM102@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

> If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

> Micrsoft.

>

> Thanks

>

>

 

While it is possible to back up the registry files, doing so

is unlikely to help you in case you have a problem. Restoring

a registry file requires a good knowledge about the inner

workings of Windows. It also requires a method to access

your hard disk without launching Windows. Much better

to rely on the inbuilt System Restore facility or perhaps on

a third party product such as Acronis TrueImage.

 

Remember: Backing up something only gives you a *hope*

of restoring it later on. To be *sure* you must perform a

full test restore. If you don't then it probably won't work

when the crunch comes.

[Guest WaIIy]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:37:02 -0600, "Xantipis" <MPM102@comcast.net>

wrote:

>Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

>If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

>Micrsoft.

>

>Thanks

>

 

I'd get this and backup the folder to the CD .....

 

http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:37:02 -0600, "Xantipis" <MPM102@comcast.net>

wrote:

> Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

> If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

> Micrsoft.

 

 

ERUNT is an excellent program.

http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

 

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[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

Using both now. I'm still trying to decide when one is preferable over

the other. Is there some common theme here? Like as to when it would be

preferable to use ERUNT over System Restore, or vice versa?

 

One thing I'm pretty sure of is that ERUNT is more basic and fundamental,

and does not save/restore user programs or applications, per se. Whereas

System Restore might (and sometimes will even delete some stuff (like

recently downloaded program exe files, for example) you had saved

previously - thinking it's doing you a favor - but sometimes it's a

disservice).

 

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:37:02 -0600, "Xantipis" <MPM102@comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

>> Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

>> If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

>> Micrsoft.

>

>

> ERUNT is an excellent program.

> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>One thing I'm pretty sure of is that ERUNT is more basic and fundamental,

>and does not save/restore user programs or applications, per se. Whereas

>System Restore might [snip]

 

WRONG

 

System Restore saves SYSTEM settings. Nothing else.

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

Uncle Grumpy wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>> One thing I'm pretty sure of is that ERUNT is more basic and fundamental,

>> and does not save/restore user programs or applications, per se.

>> Whereas

>> System Restore might [snip]

>

> WRONG

>

> System Restore saves SYSTEM settings. Nothing else.

 

It also saves the REGISTRY, which is much more than JUST "system settings"

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> System Restore saves SYSTEM settings. Nothing else.

>

>It also saves the REGISTRY, which is much more than JUST "system settings"

 

 

YOU are a MORON.

 

The registry CONTAINS ALL THE SYSTEM SETTINGS.

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:42:01 -0700, "Bill in Co."

<not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Using both now. I'm still trying to decide when one is preferable over

> the other. Is there some common theme here? Like as to when it would be

> preferable to use ERUNT over System Restore, or vice versa?

>

> One thing I'm pretty sure of is that ERUNT is more basic and fundamental,

> and does not save/restore user programs or applications, per se. Whereas

> System Restore might (and sometimes will even delete some stuff (like

> recently downloaded program exe files, for example) you had saved

> previously - thinking it's doing you a favor - but sometimes it's a

> disservice).

 

 

No, System Restore doesn't save user programs, just the operating

system. It's somewhat more than the registry, so it's good to keep it

in place even if you use Erunt. Personally, I try to be extra

cautious, and use both

 

>

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> > On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:37:02 -0600, "Xantipis" <MPM102@comcast.net>

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

> >> If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

> >> Micrsoft.

> >

> >

> > ERUNT is an excellent program.

> > http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

 

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[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

Uncle Grumpy wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>>> System Restore saves SYSTEM settings. Nothing else.

>>

>> It also saves the REGISTRY, which is much more than JUST "system

>> settings"

>

>

> YOU are a MORON.

>

> The registry CONTAINS ALL THE SYSTEM SETTINGS.

 

Forget it, it's over your head. Go read Ken's post for starters.

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

Using both now. I'm still trying to decide when one is preferable over

the other, and is there some common theme here. Like when it would be

preferable to use ERUNT over System Restore, OR vice versa??

 

One thing I'm pretty sure of, by now, is that ERUNT is more "fundamental",

and

does not change or delete ANY files upon restoration, except the system

registry files.

 

Whereas System Restore apparently can, at least in some instances. System

Restore can even delete some files upon a restore operation, like some

recently downloaded program exe files that you had saved before - I've been

through that one already.

 

Still, in retrospect, System Restore seems to monitor at least SOME

application installation related files, unlike ERUNT, which only monitors

the registry and its few system files, so it seems System Restore would

"generally" be more useful.

 

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:37:02 -0600, "Xantipis" <MPM102@comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

>> Is there any way to back up the registry to CD's?

>> If so where would I find instructions as I don't seem to find any at

>> Micrsoft.

>

>

> ERUNT is an excellent program.

> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest Daave]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

Bill in Co. wrote:

> Using both now. I'm still trying to decide when one is preferable

> over the other, and is there some common theme here. Like when it

> would be preferable to use ERUNT over System Restore, OR vice versa??

 

Usually, System Restore is preferable. However, if there are no clean

restore points or if you are unable to boot into Windows, you can boot

off a boot disk and then use ERUNT to restore your registry. But as long

as System Restore is working, then I would use *it* to restore your

registry, etc.

> One thing I'm pretty sure of, by now, is that ERUNT is more

> "fundamental", and does not change or delete ANY files upon

> restoration, except the system registry files.

 

Here's a good post pointing out the differences:

 

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/msg/0dc0f4fcd7974abf

> Whereas System Restore apparently can, at least in some instances.

> System Restore can even delete some files upon a restore operation,

> like some recently downloaded program exe files that you had saved

> before - I've been through that one already.

 

That's news to me. System Restore to the best of my knowledge does not

do this. If you downloaded *anything*, it should still be where you

saved it to last.

[Guest Nepatsfan]

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"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

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> Bill in Co. wrote:

 

<snipped>

>> Whereas System Restore apparently can, at least in some instances.

>> System Restore can even delete some files upon a restore operation,

>> like some recently downloaded program exe files that you had saved

>> before - I've been through that one already.

>

> That's news to me. System Restore to the best of my knowledge does not

> do this. If you downloaded *anything*, it should still be where you

> saved it to last.

>

 

As an experiment, try the following.

 

Create a restore point.

Download an executable file and save it on your Desktop. Any file with an .exe

or .msi extension will do.

Run System Restore and take your computer back to the state it was in before you

created that restore point.

Where's the file you downloaded?

 

Protecting Files During System Restore

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/expert/russel_sysrestore.mspx

 

Nepatsfan

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

Daave wrote:

> Bill in Co. wrote:

>> Using both now. I'm still trying to decide when one is preferable

>> over the other, and is there some common theme here. Like when it

>> would be preferable to use ERUNT over System Restore, OR vice versa??

>

> Usually, System Restore is preferable.

 

That's what I feel, too. (Generally, that is)

> However, if there are no clean

> restore points or if you are unable to boot into Windows, you can boot

> off a boot disk and then use ERUNT to restore your registry.

 

IF you have a floppy "boot disk" that sees - and allows - access to the HD,

I had thought. (I've been playing around with several of these things,

including an old Avira NTFSDOS program, and BART PE, and it's getting a bit

confusing at this point to remember which does what under what circumstances

:-)

 

But as I recall, at least some of these so-called boot disks are dos-based,

and can't see or recognize the NTFS formatted HD.

> But as long as System Restore is working, then I would use *it* to restore

> your

> registry, etc.

 

Yeah, and that's what I've been doing.

>> One thing I'm pretty sure of, by now, is that ERUNT is more

>> "fundamental", and does not change or delete ANY files upon

>> restoration, except the system registry files.

>

> Here's a good post pointing out the differences:

> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/msg/0dc0f4fcd7974abf

>

>> Whereas System Restore apparently can, at least in some instances.

>> System Restore can even delete some files upon a restore operation,

>> like some recently downloaded program exe files that you had saved

>> before - I've been through that one already.

>

> That's news to me. System Restore to the best of my knowledge does not

> do this. If you downloaded *anything*, it should still be where you

> saved it to last.

 

Nope. If you've downloaded an exe file, and saved it in some directory

that is NOT under the special Documents folder, it can (and has) be deleted.

System Restore is covering its bases, by *assuming* that that exe file could

have been part of the problem and part of the reason why you chose to run

System Restore, so it "nicely" deletes it. (Been burned by that one)

 

And thanks for that link. I want to digest that in depth, because up to

now I hadn't found a *really definitive* article covering EXACTLY what is,

and what is not, taken care of, by System Restore. (and I mean exactly -

at the file level, in detail).

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Backing up the registry?

 

Nepatsfan wrote:

> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

> news:eX5sIancIHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>

> <snipped>

>

>>> Whereas System Restore apparently can, at least in some instances.

>>> System Restore can even delete some files upon a restore operation,

>>> like some recently downloaded program exe files that you had saved

>>> before - I've been through that one already.

>>

>> That's news to me. System Restore to the best of my knowledge does not

>> do this. If you downloaded *anything*, it should still be where you

>> saved it to last.

>>

>

> As an experiment, try the following.

>

> Create a restore point.

> Download an executable file and save it on your Desktop. Any file with an

> .exe

> or .msi extension will do.

> Run System Restore and take your computer back to the state it was in

> before

> you created that restore point.

> Where's the file you downloaded?

 

Protecting Files During System Restore

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/expert/russel_sysrestore.mspx

 

It's GONE into never never land!! And that's VERY annoying. :-)

(yes, I know, you're supposed to save them somewhere "special", per above)

[Guest Daave]

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Nepatsfan wrote:

> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

> news:eX5sIancIHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>

> <snipped>

>

>>> Whereas System Restore apparently can, at least in some instances.

>>> System Restore can even delete some files upon a restore operation,

>>> like some recently downloaded program exe files that you had saved

>>> before - I've been through that one already.

>>

>> That's news to me. System Restore to the best of my knowledge does

>> not

>> do this. If you downloaded *anything*, it should still be where you

>> saved it to last.

>>

>

> As an experiment, try the following.

>

> Create a restore point.

> Download an executable file and save it on your Desktop. Any file

> with an .exe

> or .msi extension will do.

> Run System Restore and take your computer back to the state it was in

> before you created that restore point.

> Where's the file you downloaded?

>

> Protecting Files During System Restore

>

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/expert/russel_sysrestore.mspx

 

Heh, ya learn somethin' new every day!

[Guest Bill in Co.]

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Daave wrote:

> Nepatsfan wrote:

>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:eX5sIancIHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>

>> <snipped>

>>

>>>> Whereas System Restore apparently can, at least in some instances.

>>>> System Restore can even delete some files upon a restore operation,

>>>> like some recently downloaded program exe files that you had saved

>>>> before - I've been through that one already.

>>>

>>> That's news to me. System Restore to the best of my knowledge does

>>> not

>>> do this. If you downloaded *anything*, it should still be where you

>>> saved it to last.

>>>

>>

>> As an experiment, try the following.

>>

>> Create a restore point.

>> Download an executable file and save it on your Desktop. Any file

>> with an .exe

>> or .msi extension will do.

>> Run System Restore and take your computer back to the state it was in

>> before you created that restore point.

>> Where's the file you downloaded?

>>

>> Protecting Files During System Restore

>>

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/expert/russel_sysrestore.mspx

>

> Heh, ya learn somethin' new every day!

 

Pass the word along to Gramps, too!

[Guest Edward W. Thompson]

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"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> Daave wrote:

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>> Using both now. I'm still trying to decide when one is preferable

>>> over the other, and is there some common theme here. Like when it

>>> would be preferable to use ERUNT over System Restore, OR vice versa??

>>

>> Usually, System Restore is preferable.

 

System Restore has a very fundemental problem that is if any one of the

restore points becomes corrupted, you have lost the ability to restore

anything. For such a vital 'backup/safeguard' utility this makes it close

to useless as far as I am concerned. On the other hand ERUNT creates

standalone backups of the Registry. I am aware that ERUNT does not do

everything that SR does but the differences, in my view are insignificant

and are surpassed by ERUNT's total reliability.

 

Run, both, I don't I use SR due to its reliability problems. I have never

had the need for the 'extras' in SR and if I did I could repair those

whereas you need a reliable backup of the Registry in case of problems.

[Guest Bill in Co.]

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Edward W. Thompson wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:uHQm6rncIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Daave wrote:

>>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>>> Using both now. I'm still trying to decide when one is preferable

>>>> over the other, and is there some common theme here. Like when it

>>>> would be preferable to use ERUNT over System Restore, OR vice versa??

>>>

>>> Usually, System Restore is preferable.

>

> System Restore has a very fundemental problem that is if any one of the

> restore points becomes corrupted, you have lost the ability to restore

> anything.

 

Well, that's a good point too.

 

Actually, there was one time when it failed me, but admitedly that was due

to this being a fairly large program that I had installed to try out, and

then decided to uninstall, and then finally tried to restore the system back

to the previous restore point, just to have a clean system - and it balked

at that.

> For such a vital 'backup/safeguard' utility this makes it close

> to useless as far as I am concerned. On the other hand ERUNT creates

> standalone backups of the Registry. I am aware that ERUNT does not do

> everything that SR does but the differences, in my view are insignificant

> and are surpassed by ERUNT's total reliability.

>

> Run, both, I don't I use SR due to its reliability problems. I have never

> had the need for the 'extras' in SR and if I did I could repair those

> whereas you need a reliable backup of the Registry in case of problems.

 

OK, and thanks for that perspective.